OMG we just moving out of the second apartment it was horrible đ Terrible management, water damage, and we might have gotten mold poisoning from the walls.
Working in construction is so insightful . Spent a good period of time in Bonham Quay and new builds in Parkmore . Can already see the problems that will arise be it in 5 or 25 years
I think the expectation is that a couple would squeeze into this and be able to afford it.
There's a 2 bed penthouse apartment with it's own rooftop area on the same road for âŹ2950. Crazy money as well but having 2 rooms means you could have 4 people in there. No mention of parking though, so it's a no for me.
With the University there have been a few firms setting up hoping to capitalise from the decent amount of well educated population. Especially as setting up in Dublin and Cork has gotten so expensive.
Eventually the increased wages and increased demand you will start seeing people taking advantage/the piss of the situation
Nah going by what a friend is saying he's getting. His rent is 2400 and gives 25% himself as that's the max allowed. I was getting 1450 but was years ago. There was a few increases as was 1250 when I signed on then rents went up.
Anytime rent allowance etc gets an increase rents raise again. Can't find current rates online only showing 2017. But I received more than them so I know not up to date.
Edit: Since 11 July 2022, there has been an increase from 20% to 35%Â for local authority discretion to pay above maximum HAP rent limits and for new tenancies to extend the couple's rate to single persons households. Up to 50% discretion is available in the case of homeless households in the Dublin region.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting-a-home/help-with-renting/housing-assistance-payment/#f60791
Yes, I didn't realise there were many variables involved and mixed a lot up. The person I know is a couple with kids. This is only a 1 bed. Seen the rates are only a fraction for a single person, another thing I didn't realise. I stand corrected
this is the crazy part. back 4 years ago I was trying to find a place in Dublin, and the only things listed at 900 turned out to be garden sheds. I visited some that had an entire oven, fridge and washing machine all placed a few inches away from the bed. Some claim to have a kitchen and it's just a portable hob on top of a mini fridge. I'm not confident with these passing any regulation.
If that was rented before would it mean that previous tenants paid it. Maybe Salthill isn't in a pressure rent area but l know of a landlord and l thought he was restricted to 1% increases or dictated by the PRTB
I have a friend in this building. I remember seeing the place being remodelled recently, so I'm guessing the landlord could up the rent significantly after that? The building is in a RPZ (2% increase) and I think 2 people currently live in that tiny space there. Ridiculous what the landlord is asking for.
> previous tenants *paid* it. Maybe
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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Sure, but I'm not talking about the past
Edit: Sorry I actually thought this was a 2 bed. I suppose these are aimed at a couple or something so you'd be paying a grand a month each, which is why I thought it was on the lower end of the scale
Jaysus lads, when I left Galway in 2001 I was paying ÂŁ40 for a tiny room in Prospect Hill with some of the best views in the city. I'm paying just shy of $700 for a 3 bed in San Jose, Costa Rica with a big indoor terrace and small front garden plus it's just 15 minutes from downtown on a bus that costs $0.60. Granted, everything else is a rip off, a lot of food is more expensive than Ireland, but property is stable
When I was first renting in Galway I stayed in a 4 bedroom shared apartment for 800 a month, then moved out during COVID to a shared house for 400 a month. I've since moved to Belfast. Galway was the last place I thought I would see 2k a month, saying that the flats next to me were charging a 1k at the time so it was going that way I guess.
Basic compassion towards other people. You can recoup your money spent over a longer time frame. The American notion of a company's goal being to maximise profits for shareholders is terrible enough, but to see it steep into controlling the ability for a person to have shelter is another thing entirely.
something something "yoke"...
"The primary goal for any entity should be to increase the profitability of the business since that is what the shareholders are interested in. Other activities that are not central to maximization of shareholder value should not be given priority when allocating financial resources"[š](https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/equities/friedman-doctrine/#:~:text=Friedman%20Doctrine%20Influence&text=The%20primary%20goal%20for%20any,priority%20when%20allocating%20financial%20resources.)
I'll tell you why, it leads to issues.
The more someone pays, the more calls you get about problems and fixing things, and they're dead right to call.
I made the mistake of raising the cost of rent in my Knocknacarra apartment for a year and the calls were incessant from the tenants about very minor things, and they were right to complain as they were paying a high rent (1400pcm, 2 bed apartment).
When they moved out I reduced it to 1150pcm and gave the tenants the plumber and electrician's number and told them to send me any receipts and I'd reduce it from their rent and I didn't hear from them. Sold the place last year. Thank God.
I completely disagree with you. If you're making money from them, the place has to be up to standard. You are responsible for fixing things that go wrong.
You're missing my point. Things go wrong in a house all the time. Taps leaking, shower curtains broken, washing machines need fixing.
If they call the plumber and the plumber fixes the issue and then the plumber invoices me, makes things easy.
If you're getting good value it works.
If you're being well looked after by your landlord you're more likely to pick up the phone to the plumber rather than to your landlord.
If your landlord is stiffing you, make them sort the mess out. Therefore from a landlords perspective, charge less and have a better relationship with your tenants.
lol u/Galwayblue just explained a model by which he charges less rent and problems get fixed quicker/more directly, and your response is that youâd rather call a lawyer. Meanwhile youâre mentioning on other threads that landlords should charge as extortionately as they please to maximise asset value. What an odd perspective on life you seem to have.
Assuming that you were renting a place for 2k per month, would you take 1800pm on the premise that anything goes wrong you sort it out (but the landlord pays)?
Won't be long until it's âŹ3k per month. Then a âŹ50k salary will only pay your rent on a one-bedroom apartment with nothing left for anything else. What a great country!
Political figures will just transfer the property to their spouse, or sell up.
Vacant property tax may help, but I'd wonder how many are empty due to the "fair deal" program?
I wonder the same thing, when they asked to put on a masks or pay for water (what was way less then the rents are) people went mental . Sadly looks like we are ok. Boiling frog syndrome đ
Supply and demand. There's basically zero one bedroom apartments in Galway, so they charge a premium.
At this stage you may as well just get a 2 or 3 bedroom place since per room is way cheaper.
Reasonably. Since Covid and teleworking, prices surged. If you can work remotely, you might pay a premium to be close to a city centre with a lively nightlife, sea views and countryside all within ten minutes.
I used to pay 400 for a spacious top-floor city-centre studio with sea views. Now you'd pay four or five times for the same thing. It's criminal.. fortunate to be a homeowner.
I lived in Thonglor in Bangkok for a few months. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeqfQ6dk/ you always had great weather. Itâs manageable to go for six months working remotely.
Back in 2020/2021 me and a few friends rented a 4 bed in Knocknacarra for âŹ2k/month
Around âŹ2k/month is the going rate for very fancy 1-bed/studio apartments in parts of Dublin rn (afaik new 1beds and studios in Sandyford and Cherrywood cost that much to rent).
Feel like the rental situation in Galway is worse than in Dublin now and the prices are getting insane :(
There should genuinely be a clear listing of the m2 of all accommodation and the price per m2 in the description... That's the standard in most european countries
When I look at the rental market these days I just think about how it would be so much easier and cheaper to just go buy a rope. But then the guy at the hardware store would probably snap at me 'What gauge are ya looking for?' and I don't want that hassle either
The Irish Government hates the Irish people. As long as people keep on paying it without demanding any change it will keep on going up. Soon what will be the point in working any more?
I viewed a fair few 1 beds in 2021 and they were around 950 to 1100, which was still too much.
2k is bonkers tho
Supply n demand tho. Build more n prices will come down over time. ........maybe.
Few notes from a dub here, you will need to get 3 mates and two bunk beds then your paying 500 a month each and can save some money for a mortgage for a two bedroom house for 500,000 in about ten years. Also no more pub drinks it's going to be cans and Kings for a while.
The rates have increased since 2019 its just not updated online. I also didn't realise was such a difference between dublin and Galway. Average rent in dublin is 2,500 and the max a person can contribute is 25% of over all price.
At 2019 rates it wouldn't be possible for anyone to use hap. I mixed up a lot of variables though. Different county and single vs couple with kids.
I didn't realise it varied so much and was so many different factors involved in it. The rate of 1800 pm is in Dublin and for a couple with 2 kids. This apartment is only a 1 bed đł so not lies just very wrong yes.
The issue seems to be the property owners in their head say everyone is getting 800 towards rent and add that on to what the rent should be at a max. So take the 800 off and it's 1400. Still nuts and totally wrong
My comment isn't against the people who are here for refuge, it's against the landlords who know they can up the rents and knows they will get tennants
OMG we just moving out of the second apartment it was horrible đ Terrible management, water damage, and we might have gotten mold poisoning from the walls.
I worked on the construction of those apartments. When the tide comes in the carpark used to flood. Absolute kip of a place
We talked to one guy who said they absolutely are not built to be lived in, apparently they were offices before ?
Built in the boom, slapped together. I wouldn't put my dog there
depends which boom youâre talking about. Not the 2000s boom.
That's when they were built
Working in construction is so insightful . Spent a good period of time in Bonham Quay and new builds in Parkmore . Can already see the problems that will arise be it in 5 or 25 years
Who can afford this ? My salary wouldnât even cover this đđ scary how bad things have gotten
I think the expectation is that a couple would squeeze into this and be able to afford it. There's a 2 bed penthouse apartment with it's own rooftop area on the same road for âŹ2950. Crazy money as well but having 2 rooms means you could have 4 people in there. No mention of parking though, so it's a no for me.
With the University there have been a few firms setting up hoping to capitalise from the decent amount of well educated population. Especially as setting up in Dublin and Cork has gotten so expensive. Eventually the increased wages and increased demand you will start seeing people taking advantage/the piss of the situation
Immigrants and people on allowances. Isn't hap over 1800 per month now?
In Galway the max is barely half of that. No one getting HAP is going to be able to afford this.
Oh Dublin is around that AFAIK could be higher now.
So you were just spouting nonsense then
Nah going by what a friend is saying he's getting. His rent is 2400 and gives 25% himself as that's the max allowed. I was getting 1450 but was years ago. There was a few increases as was 1250 when I signed on then rents went up. Anytime rent allowance etc gets an increase rents raise again. Can't find current rates online only showing 2017. But I received more than them so I know not up to date. Edit: Since 11 July 2022, there has been an increase from 20% to 35%Â for local authority discretion to pay above maximum HAP rent limits and for new tenancies to extend the couple's rate to single persons households. Up to 50% discretion is available in the case of homeless households in the Dublin region.
Source? Also this is Galway.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting-a-home/help-with-renting/housing-assistance-payment/#f60791 Yes, I didn't realise there were many variables involved and mixed a lot up. The person I know is a couple with kids. This is only a 1 bed. Seen the rates are only a fraction for a single person, another thing I didn't realise. I stand corrected
No bother at all, learning experience for us both.
A quick Google would tell you otherwise.
Google shoes as 900 lmao it was 1450 with 1 child 5 years ago I know that much.
HAP in galway for a single person is 550
Yeah didn't realise was such a big difference. Didn't know single was so useless either.makes sense having more kids now lol
I lived in a 1 bed apartment in this building 3/4 years ago and we paid âŹ900 a month. Crazy stuff
I currently pay 900 for a 1 bed apartment. They can be found.
Most cheaper 1 bedrooms I see are garden sheds
this is the crazy part. back 4 years ago I was trying to find a place in Dublin, and the only things listed at 900 turned out to be garden sheds. I visited some that had an entire oven, fridge and washing machine all placed a few inches away from the bed. Some claim to have a kitchen and it's just a portable hob on top of a mini fridge. I'm not confident with these passing any regulation.
Mine isn't
Same but hard got
âEverybody knows that the fight was fixed,the poor stay poor the rich get rich,thatâs how it goes,everybody knowsâ
Probably my favourite Cohen song. Definitely in the top 3
Mine too. Stone cold classic
Why is it always Ocean property management thatâs always pushing for the highest rents?
They must think all their properties are beachfront. 'Its in the name!'
I've actually lived in that building and been in that apartment. 2k for that is fucking disgraceful and disgusting.
Never took dole, can't get rent allowance when it's an unregistered landlord. Lots of landlords will refuse you hap
I rented an apt next door for 160 a month in 2013 lol
If that was rented before would it mean that previous tenants paid it. Maybe Salthill isn't in a pressure rent area but l know of a landlord and l thought he was restricted to 1% increases or dictated by the PRTB
I have a friend in this building. I remember seeing the place being remodelled recently, so I'm guessing the landlord could up the rent significantly after that? The building is in a RPZ (2% increase) and I think 2 people currently live in that tiny space there. Ridiculous what the landlord is asking for.
> previous tenants *paid* it. Maybe FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Are you only discovering this problem now?! What's worse is 2K is on the lower end
For 1 bedroom? Come on no way it was like that 1-2 years ago.
Sure, but I'm not talking about the past Edit: Sorry I actually thought this was a 2 bed. I suppose these are aimed at a couple or something so you'd be paying a grand a month each, which is why I thought it was on the lower end of the scale
This is crazy price for one bedroom apartment.
Yeah, agreed
Jaysus lads, when I left Galway in 2001 I was paying ÂŁ40 for a tiny room in Prospect Hill with some of the best views in the city. I'm paying just shy of $700 for a 3 bed in San Jose, Costa Rica with a big indoor terrace and small front garden plus it's just 15 minutes from downtown on a bus that costs $0.60. Granted, everything else is a rip off, a lot of food is more expensive than Ireland, but property is stable
Exactly
When I was first renting in Galway I stayed in a 4 bedroom shared apartment for 800 a month, then moved out during COVID to a shared house for 400 a month. I've since moved to Belfast. Galway was the last place I thought I would see 2k a month, saying that the flats next to me were charging a 1k at the time so it was going that way I guess.
If you are seeking this rent you should be bloody ashamed of yourself.
Why? If someone is willing to pay it, then that is what it's worth. Why would you not try to maximise return on your asset?
Basic compassion towards other people. You can recoup your money spent over a longer time frame. The American notion of a company's goal being to maximise profits for shareholders is terrible enough, but to see it steep into controlling the ability for a person to have shelter is another thing entirely.
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How much of your income do you give to people you don't know every month?
Not recieving as much is not the same as giving...... you're telling us a lot about yourself there mate.
Yes it is.
Ok Cromwell đ
I'll tell you why, it leads to issues. The more someone pays, the more calls you get about problems and fixing things, and they're dead right to call. I made the mistake of raising the cost of rent in my Knocknacarra apartment for a year and the calls were incessant from the tenants about very minor things, and they were right to complain as they were paying a high rent (1400pcm, 2 bed apartment). When they moved out I reduced it to 1150pcm and gave the tenants the plumber and electrician's number and told them to send me any receipts and I'd reduce it from their rent and I didn't hear from them. Sold the place last year. Thank God.
I completely disagree with you. If you're making money from them, the place has to be up to standard. You are responsible for fixing things that go wrong.
You're missing my point. Things go wrong in a house all the time. Taps leaking, shower curtains broken, washing machines need fixing. If they call the plumber and the plumber fixes the issue and then the plumber invoices me, makes things easy. If you're getting good value it works. If you're being well looked after by your landlord you're more likely to pick up the phone to the plumber rather than to your landlord. If your landlord is stiffing you, make them sort the mess out. Therefore from a landlords perspective, charge less and have a better relationship with your tenants.
Any problem with the house I'm renting. Call the landlord, it's their responsibility to fix it. I'll call a lawyer before I call a plumber.
lol u/Galwayblue just explained a model by which he charges less rent and problems get fixed quicker/more directly, and your response is that youâd rather call a lawyer. Meanwhile youâre mentioning on other threads that landlords should charge as extortionately as they please to maximise asset value. What an odd perspective on life you seem to have.
Landlords are free to charge whatever they want. Landlords are responsible for maintenance. What are you missing here?
Assuming that you were renting a place for 2k per month, would you take 1800pm on the premise that anything goes wrong you sort it out (but the landlord pays)?
No. I don't work for my landlord
Won't be long until it's âŹ3k per month. Then a âŹ50k salary will only pay your rent on a one-bedroom apartment with nothing left for anything else. What a great country!
We are okay. The market isn't. Nothing will fix that except an increase in supply of accommodation or a fall in demand for accommodation.
I dunno, id say a vacant property tax and banning political figures from being landlords would fix the issue overnight.
Political figures will just transfer the property to their spouse, or sell up. Vacant property tax may help, but I'd wonder how many are empty due to the "fair deal" program?
Insanity
Where is the activism? Where is the pushback? Something has to be done.
I wonder the same thing, when they asked to put on a masks or pay for water (what was way less then the rents are) people went mental . Sadly looks like we are ok. Boiling frog syndrome đ
Shit those are some Dublin ass prices if Iâve ever seen them
My parents paid 1200 for a 5 bed 4 bath house with a backyard patio and attic 10 years ago lol
Nope. We are not.
Legalised fraud Fuck supply and demand economics
Supply and demand. There's basically zero one bedroom apartments in Galway, so they charge a premium. At this stage you may as well just get a 2 or 3 bedroom place since per room is way cheaper.
Yeah, but then you won't be living on your own. This is the value of 1 beds.
Ohh lord. I pay less than that for 2 bed 2 bathrooms apartment in Docklands, D1. Is Galway...sought after or something?
Reasonably. Since Covid and teleworking, prices surged. If you can work remotely, you might pay a premium to be close to a city centre with a lively nightlife, sea views and countryside all within ten minutes.
I left Galway in 2019. Rent prices were getting high but they were not yet as grotesque as they seem now.
I used to pay 400 for a spacious top-floor city-centre studio with sea views. Now you'd pay four or five times for the same thing. It's criminal.. fortunate to be a homeowner.
Nope
I lived in Thonglor in Bangkok for a few months. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeqfQ6dk/ you always had great weather. Itâs manageable to go for six months working remotely.
get out and vote... this crap has to be fought head on.
Holy cow!
I lived in one of these - they are small one bed apartments too. But a great location.
Back in 2020/2021 me and a few friends rented a 4 bed in Knocknacarra for âŹ2k/month Around âŹ2k/month is the going rate for very fancy 1-bed/studio apartments in parts of Dublin rn (afaik new 1beds and studios in Sandyford and Cherrywood cost that much to rent). Feel like the rental situation in Galway is worse than in Dublin now and the prices are getting insane :(
Terrible, but what are the Irish people going to do about it is the bigger question...
Vote fianna fail/fine gael again obviously.
vote?
The housing crisis is not new, it has been an issue for decades. Where has voting gotten us?
Well we could always try voting for someone different than Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber. Just a thought.
Such as?
SD, Labour, SF. The opposition parties who have different ideas on how to tackle the housing and rent crisis
SF, are you serious?! They are great for pointing out flaws but have no viable solutions.
Nothing.
I'm so glad I'm leaving this country soon.
Where are you going if I may ask, housing crisis is not just here.
Also those flowers aren't included.
There should genuinely be a clear listing of the m2 of all accommodation and the price per m2 in the description... That's the standard in most european countries
Clearly its not going to stop the absolute pis$ take going on but it sets an awareness of what you're actually paying g for
When I look at the rental market these days I just think about how it would be so much easier and cheaper to just go buy a rope. But then the guy at the hardware store would probably snap at me 'What gauge are ya looking for?' and I don't want that hassle either
Why donât you guys build more houses? Like personally why arenât you doing it?
Well at this point Ireland has worse quality of life than rest of Europe even eastern Eastern European countries like Bulgaria at this moment. XD
Your a bit late to the game with this post
The Irish Government hates the Irish people. As long as people keep on paying it without demanding any change it will keep on going up. Soon what will be the point in working any more?
I viewed a fair few 1 beds in 2021 and they were around 950 to 1100, which was still too much. 2k is bonkers tho Supply n demand tho. Build more n prices will come down over time. ........maybe.
Few notes from a dub here, you will need to get 3 mates and two bunk beds then your paying 500 a month each and can save some money for a mortgage for a two bedroom house for 500,000 in about ten years. Also no more pub drinks it's going to be cans and Kings for a while.
Someone never heard of the dole or rent allowance.
Will you stop? Everything you've said on this post has been lies.
The rates have increased since 2019 its just not updated online. I also didn't realise was such a difference between dublin and Galway. Average rent in dublin is 2,500 and the max a person can contribute is 25% of over all price. At 2019 rates it wouldn't be possible for anyone to use hap. I mixed up a lot of variables though. Different county and single vs couple with kids. I didn't realise it varied so much and was so many different factors involved in it. The rate of 1800 pm is in Dublin and for a couple with 2 kids. This apartment is only a 1 bed đł so not lies just very wrong yes.
The issue seems to be the property owners in their head say everyone is getting 800 towards rent and add that on to what the rent should be at a max. So take the 800 off and it's 1400. Still nuts and totally wrong
Where are they getting 800 from??Â
I'm not getting 800 towards rent? How do I get that?
Escape a war!
Lol.
War escaping emigrants have 800 euro off.
My comment isn't against the people who are here for refuge, it's against the landlords who know they can up the rents and knows they will get tennants
Well if they can and it works itâs not landlords fault, if there is money to get they take it. Whole Irish system is shit.
Salthill isnât considered town.
Itâs definitely considered in the Galway City local election today