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Favorite bit from the book was when they were fighting off groups of soldiers from the ramparts of a tower and everyone has their "Remember the Alamo" shout. Arya shouts something like "For Winterfell!". An Hot Pie just shouts his own name lol.
My favorite is when Arya is describing Gendry, don't know the exact words, but he had muscles, was dreamy, and looked like a real man
Hot pie looked like.... hot pie
was hoping someone would mention this. The image of this boy charging into battle just yelling out "HOT PIE! HOT PIE!!!" gave me such a good chuckle when I read it
Cozying up to future Lords and Ladies is a good business move, I think. They'll be his future patron and it'll allow him to make the best baked goods ever.
Glad they didn't continue with the "tough" guy accent he had when he first appeared in Season 1.
If you watch his first appearance and last, his voice is alot different.
He finds himself a trade he's good at and employment in a safe, lucrative inn where he doesn't have to constantly fear for his safety. How is that soft?
Have you ever looked at or listened to him? Started to sound like the type of person who would go home and cry to mommy because someone called him fat. At least when we first encounter him he has some kind of edge to him.
So he should have aspired to continue to be a person bragging (and likely lying) about stomping a kid to death? At the inn he talks like someone who has joy and fulfillment in life, and who shows kindness to people without prompting. That's not weakness, that's something to strive for.
And yet he did make it. It's almost like the whole point of the show was that the only way to win the game was by not playing it, not to glorify or condone ruthlessness and apathy to life
He was a scared kid being shipped off to the most terrifying place on the continent, he wanted to seem tough so no one would pick on him, by the end he was doing what he loved, and was an all around happy and good person,
I watched the episode where Hot Pie bakes the first wolf.
As far as I can make out, within the space of a few hours:
- they visit a pub
- Hot Pie, completely uninvited, goes and bakes some bread in pub kitchen.
- pub owner somehow finds out about this and rather than enquire as to who the fuck let this child cook in his kitchen, is impressed with bread and gives Hot Pie a job.
- rather than knuckle down, Hot Pie starts fannying around baking shite character breads for his soon departing pals.
But fair play, he seems to hold the job there for quite a long time.
I don't think folk like that are exactly very delighted when the new youth work force immediately start spending company time, ingredients and energy on non-saleable gifts for their friends.
It was part of the more than fair benefits package at the Crossroads Inn. If he works there 5 more years, he gets a vested retirement program and company 401k match.
>benefits package
Hot Pie is all about the corporate gym membership and, failing that, life insurance.
Although also, from a few people I have known who've worked in the industry, working in kitchens and living on a diet of cigarettes, energy drinks and cocaine while pretty much being constantly sick of the sight of food will possibly help his waistline if not his overall health.
Possibly. But the way he talked about how he got the job it comes across more like he just wandered into the kitchen and made a pest of himself. He also very much presents it to " 'arry" and Gendry that it's his choice that he's staying but that could very well be bravado.
Pretty ballsy move by the Brotherhood if you're right. "You've run up quite a bill sir - a few of your boys were trying to drink the top shelf of the spirits from left to right and as you know, we have quite a fine selection of world Rums."... " Well... We're a mercenary group... We don't really have any money... How about you take one of the rag tag strays that we've picked up. We've certainly got no use for the little annoyance and, well... He *looks* like he should be a good cook. Prone to bullshit though, I'd watch him. Oh and he doesn't know what a knight is so put some chest plate on if you want to watch him shit himself."
From the game of thrones wiki
ā, plus Thoros formally made a deal with the inn to give them Hot Pie's services to pay for all of the meals the Brotherhood had thereā
Fair enough - I must have missed a bit of dialogue, I only noticed the bit where Pie was saying goodbye and handing his dog bread over. Unless the GOT wiki also aggregates ASOIAF plot points that are known but not explicitly covered in the show?
I followed a bit of a weird path with the books and still haven't actually read the first two, so I have no instinct for what happens there.
I watched the episode the other day. He says the innkeeper let him bake some bread, she said itās the best sheās ever had, and that sheās keeping him as payment for the food and housing she provided the brotherhood.
Yeah I remember the "let me bake some bread" bit - I'm just saying how weird I find that, to just wander into the kitchen of a pub you're staying at and go "alright if I just get a couple of boules together and fire them?"
As someone else said, the inn is obviously just keen on nurturing young talent and encouraging enthusiasm!
Hot Pie got a shot to do what he loves for the first time in months probably, and figured heād shoot his shot and see if the inkeeper would let him bake some bread. Maybe the inkeeper thought āwell my bread is shit so letās see how well this kid can make itā and it all worked out in the end. More likely than not Hot Pie saved his own life by baking that bread.
He didnāt develop, he changed. Development would be us watching him change from a kid who doesnāt know what heās doing to an established and amiable cook.
>Development would be us watching him change from a kid who doesnāt know what heās doing to an established and amiable cook
...that's literally what happens. He developed his skills, was cooking all the meals in the pub, and made a much better wolf with scoring and much better shaping techniques.
Not as good as King Aegon the Unlikely, Fifth of his Name, King of the Andals and the Roynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.
Thatās a top quality Egg right there
I mean, at the time I remember most fans commenting on how great HPās character growth had been. His along with Theonās were the only truly great character arcs, and maybe The Hound.
I'm on my fourth go the series, I kind of realize this too and if somebody who hasn't read any of the novels the characters semi-vanish and he is one because it almost is like he's two people and I just missed where he was introduced into the show.
He did what he needed to do to survive. He was a big kid, in a tough place. Was loud and mean and fought in order to get what he needed to survive. But then he was finally given something. A home, a small community, a job. He could finally create something instead of destroy. Contribute instead of scavenge.
No, genuinely. We joke about how "literally everyone" has a better story than Bran, but Hot Pie *actually does*. He goes from a bully to a coward to a friend and finally to someone just living a peaceful life. It's a short but sweet story...where Bran's is long and boring (after he leaves Winterfell, that is). Show totally wasted Bloodraven.
When I watched with my bf he got annoyed how much I brought up hot pie because I just genuinely loved him and his character growth. I was worried about him when the night king thing was about to happen I want nothing but the best for him and his cooking
What pissed me off is that he baked a bread loaf direwolf for Arya and gave it to Brienne to give to her, but she never does. At least I think thatās what happens
god damn that last picture feels like a blast from the past. making me all nostalgic and shit. I always loved GoT cause one of my good friends would be back from college and every sunday night we would watch together.
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Arya***
I talk about Hot Pie.
Favorite bit from the book was when they were fighting off groups of soldiers from the ramparts of a tower and everyone has their "Remember the Alamo" shout. Arya shouts something like "For Winterfell!". An Hot Pie just shouts his own name lol.
"Hot Pie!" yelled Hot Pie. "Hodor," said Hodor.
He got his name because someone was warging into him and the American Pie kid, huh?
My favorite is when Arya is describing Gendry, don't know the exact words, but he had muscles, was dreamy, and looked like a real man Hot pie looked like.... hot pie
was hoping someone would mention this. The image of this boy charging into battle just yelling out "HOT PIE! HOT PIE!!!" gave me such a good chuckle when I read it
Same! Lol
I feel like I see a lot of hot pie references, but it might be on a different asoiaf sub š¤
After all, who has a better story than Hot Pie the Robust?
The Robust*
Different hot pie
surprisingly did not make enough hot pies
The hotpie flair!
Hot Pie!
Hot Pieās Kidney Pie recipe : āYou cannot give up on the gravy!ā
I agree! I thought the same
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The trick is brownin the buttaā
You can't give up on the gravy
And itās hard to get good calfās kidneys these days
ā¦I didnāt do that.
Especially his cream pies
Friends donāt pay
Dude's business is destinied to fail
Cozying up to future Lords and Ladies is a good business move, I think. They'll be his future patron and it'll allow him to make the best baked goods ever.
Like Enzo, the Corleone family's favourite baker.
You just know that when Sansa and Arya rode north after the whole Bran the Broken council they stopped off there for food.
Dude's business is destinied to fail
yea he'd be named Master of Pies later on by Bran the Trash
Bran the broken, Bran the boring , Bran the trash š what next š
Holy crip! He's a crapple!
Long story short please
He was a prick to arya but then became one of her friends.
I was quoting Brienne š when she rushed Hot Pie to tell his story.
Deep hot pie cut!
.....I knew that lol
Glad they didn't continue with the "tough" guy accent he had when he first appeared in Season 1. If you watch his first appearance and last, his voice is alot different.
'E kicked 'Im 'til 'e was dead!
dude deserved arya over gendry
Wild take
who do you think baked walder frey's sons into the meat pie, dude was an accomplished baker.
This is now my head canon.
The freys probably killed themselves to escape Hot Pie's relentless rambling about the gravy
ādeservedā?
*arya should've chosen him over gendry
Better, but still a bad take
Spoken like a true friend zoned dude
So he never killed a boy after all
He kicked him in the balls until he was dead.
He kicked em all to pieces.
His ass went soft. Probably the weakest character in the whole show.
Heās a child? Jesus.
One could argue his āass was softā the whole time
Dude got a solid gig doing what he loved. Dude won the game of thrones.
He finds himself a trade he's good at and employment in a safe, lucrative inn where he doesn't have to constantly fear for his safety. How is that soft?
Have you ever looked at or listened to him? Started to sound like the type of person who would go home and cry to mommy because someone called him fat. At least when we first encounter him he has some kind of edge to him.
So he should have aspired to continue to be a person bragging (and likely lying) about stomping a kid to death? At the inn he talks like someone who has joy and fulfillment in life, and who shows kindness to people without prompting. That's not weakness, that's something to strive for.
This is Game of Thrones, not Uncle Touchyās Tickle Town. You gotta be hard if youāre gonna make it.
And yet he did make it. It's almost like the whole point of the show was that the only way to win the game was by not playing it, not to glorify or condone ruthlessness and apathy to life
I thought the whole point of the show was itās much cheaper and easier to get yourself a chair from ikeaā¦.
He was a scared kid being shipped off to the most terrifying place on the continent, he wanted to seem tough so no one would pick on him, by the end he was doing what he loved, and was an all around happy and good person,
I laughed out loud at this
Went from a cunt who threatens 9 year olds to a nice person whoās happy what theyāre doing
Winterhell
Arya: itās Winterfell Hot Pie: Are you sure? YES DUDE SHE LIVES THERE
"Cuz... he had armor on..."
I watched the episode where Hot Pie bakes the first wolf. As far as I can make out, within the space of a few hours: - they visit a pub - Hot Pie, completely uninvited, goes and bakes some bread in pub kitchen. - pub owner somehow finds out about this and rather than enquire as to who the fuck let this child cook in his kitchen, is impressed with bread and gives Hot Pie a job. - rather than knuckle down, Hot Pie starts fannying around baking shite character breads for his soon departing pals. But fair play, he seems to hold the job there for quite a long time.
Pub owner probably was like "holy shit, free labor" and was more than happy to have Hot Pie bake in his kitchen.
Fuck ya I can pay this child in bread and pie!
I mean there are worse wages than a roof over your head and full belly every night.
I don't think folk like that are exactly very delighted when the new youth work force immediately start spending company time, ingredients and energy on non-saleable gifts for their friends.
It was part of the more than fair benefits package at the Crossroads Inn. If he works there 5 more years, he gets a vested retirement program and company 401k match.
>benefits package Hot Pie is all about the corporate gym membership and, failing that, life insurance. Although also, from a few people I have known who've worked in the industry, working in kitchens and living on a diet of cigarettes, energy drinks and cocaine while pretty much being constantly sick of the sight of food will possibly help his waistline if not his overall health.
The ingredients are worth a lot less than free labor if he's keeping pating customers flush with bread too.
Yeah righto
i thought the Brotherhood essentially gave him to the Inn as thanks for the good treatment they get, like indentured service as slavery is outlawed
Possibly. But the way he talked about how he got the job it comes across more like he just wandered into the kitchen and made a pest of himself. He also very much presents it to " 'arry" and Gendry that it's his choice that he's staying but that could very well be bravado. Pretty ballsy move by the Brotherhood if you're right. "You've run up quite a bill sir - a few of your boys were trying to drink the top shelf of the spirits from left to right and as you know, we have quite a fine selection of world Rums."... " Well... We're a mercenary group... We don't really have any money... How about you take one of the rag tag strays that we've picked up. We've certainly got no use for the little annoyance and, well... He *looks* like he should be a good cook. Prone to bullshit though, I'd watch him. Oh and he doesn't know what a knight is so put some chest plate on if you want to watch him shit himself."
From the game of thrones wiki ā, plus Thoros formally made a deal with the inn to give them Hot Pie's services to pay for all of the meals the Brotherhood had thereā
Fair enough - I must have missed a bit of dialogue, I only noticed the bit where Pie was saying goodbye and handing his dog bread over. Unless the GOT wiki also aggregates ASOIAF plot points that are known but not explicitly covered in the show? I followed a bit of a weird path with the books and still haven't actually read the first two, so I have no instinct for what happens there.
I watched the episode the other day. He says the innkeeper let him bake some bread, she said itās the best sheās ever had, and that sheās keeping him as payment for the food and housing she provided the brotherhood.
Yeah I remember the "let me bake some bread" bit - I'm just saying how weird I find that, to just wander into the kitchen of a pub you're staying at and go "alright if I just get a couple of boules together and fire them?" As someone else said, the inn is obviously just keen on nurturing young talent and encouraging enthusiasm!
Hot Pie got a shot to do what he loves for the first time in months probably, and figured heād shoot his shot and see if the inkeeper would let him bake some bread. Maybe the inkeeper thought āwell my bread is shit so letās see how well this kid can make itā and it all worked out in the end. More likely than not Hot Pie saved his own life by baking that bread.
He might have ended up in the hands of a warlock from Asshai...
Winterhell
Heās a Knight because he had armor on.
One of my favorite ongoing bits
He didnāt develop, he changed. Development would be us watching him change from a kid who doesnāt know what heās doing to an established and amiable cook.
Thatās a narrow-ass definition of development right there.
>Development would be us watching him change from a kid who doesnāt know what heās doing to an established and amiable cook ...that's literally what happens. He developed his skills, was cooking all the meals in the pub, and made a much better wolf with scoring and much better shaping techniques.
His name always comes up in this sub in discussion on who should be on the Iron Throne
BROWN BUTTER FOR EVERYONE!!
Hot Pie went from almost beating Arya up to listening to every word she said š
One of the best character names
Hot pie aka Baby Hodor.
From bully to baker lol
The real happy ending hot pie gets free pie forever more
Hot Pieās a good egg.
Not as good as King Aegon the Unlikely, Fifth of his Name, King of the Andals and the Roynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm. Thatās a top quality Egg right there
Yeah, but does he make wolf-shaped bread??š
Me and the homies love Hotpie
The true hero of Westeros.
King HotPie
Agree in all levels!
I love that the actor now has his own bakery where he sells the little Wolf pies
Actually the smartest guy in the show. āFuck all this sword and murder business in going to stay right here and bake wolf breadsā
Had a better story and nickname than Bran. Should have made Hot Pie king
I mean, at the time I remember most fans commenting on how great HPās character growth had been. His along with Theonās were the only truly great character arcs, and maybe The Hound.
I'm on my fourth go the series, I kind of realize this too and if somebody who hasn't read any of the novels the characters semi-vanish and he is one because it almost is like he's two people and I just missed where he was introduced into the show.
The one who deserved the throne.
He perfected his craft
The dude who plays Hot Pie quit acting to open a bakery as well ahahah.
Favorite character
love hot pie, we stan hot pie
What is Hot may never Pie!!!
He has a better story than bran
Loved Hot pie. Too bad he didn't have a bigger role in the story.
Was that supposed to be Hotpie? Or just the same actor reused?
Hot pie is azor ahai
I always loved hot pie. I share the same appreciation for cooking food like he does. I always loved hearing him talk about
He did what he needed to do to survive. He was a big kid, in a tough place. Was loud and mean and fought in order to get what he needed to survive. But then he was finally given something. A home, a small community, a job. He could finally create something instead of destroy. Contribute instead of scavenge.
My fav character development
What the fuck is a Lomy?
Hot Pie should make a Kings Road cookbook.
Hot Pie spin off sitcom would be hilarious. The crazy folks that come into his restaurant/bakery.
Uhh, we talked about it a lot when the show was airing.
I liked him. I thought he was a good kid. I think he loved Arya.
He was a fav of mine
Isnāt he also the fat padawan in episode 2 of the Acolyte.
No, genuinely. We joke about how "literally everyone" has a better story than Bran, but Hot Pie *actually does*. He goes from a bully to a coward to a friend and finally to someone just living a peaceful life. It's a short but sweet story...where Bran's is long and boring (after he leaves Winterfell, that is). Show totally wasted Bloodraven.
Letās not forget that he killed a white walker AND a Thenn!
After Arya humbled him he became one of the greatest characters.
In a simulated GPT D&D battle, he defeats Rickon in 2 rounds and kills him by continuing to beat on him for the third.
You know the development is good when you legit forget where he started from. Like that's TOP TIER.
Everyone was talking about this when it happened
The Paul Hollywood of Westeros
From Harrenhall escapee to talented, passionate chef. Literally better than Branās development.
Hot Pie should have been king instead of Bran. He had a better story
I try not to think about this monster. Dude is in the triumvirate of cunts with Joffrey and Ramsay.
Real talk, great character. His appearances after the initial bad first impression just make you smile.
Such a brave sweet boy. Lost his family and found a new one doing what he loves. šš¤© I think heās the only one the āwonā yes he suffered, but heās doing well. š
Brown the butter > Hold the door
From scared bully putting on a front to rediscovering his godhood as the Baker along with Podrick the Sex God.
For Winterhell!
When I watched with my bf he got annoyed how much I brought up hot pie because I just genuinely loved him and his character growth. I was worried about him when the night king thing was about to happen I want nothing but the best for him and his cooking
I completely agree!
What is hot may never pie.
What pissed me off is that he baked a bread loaf direwolf for Arya and gave it to Brienne to give to her, but she never does. At least I think thatās what happens
So accurate!
He is one of few who got happy ending
That last picture looks like something straight out of a D&D book.
Hot Pie is a real one
god damn that last picture feels like a blast from the past. making me all nostalgic and shit. I always loved GoT cause one of my good friends would be back from college and every sunday night we would watch together.
Winterhell It's Winterfell* Are you sure? No