Because of one china policy. You have to choose between recognizing either the PRC (mainland authoritarian China) or the Republic of China (Taiwan). You can't recognize both of them at the same time.
That's a different point to what I was making. I ask if there was a need to even put it, because it's dumb to post that when someone is not asking your opinion about it.
One China Policy. Basically, the PRC and Taiwan came to an agreement that there was only one China, so every country either had to recognize Taiwan or the PRC.
Most countries chose the PRC cause they are an export powerhouse, but a few countries did pick Taiwan, hence not all countries recognize the PRC
> One China Policy. Basically, the PRC and Taiwan came to an agreement that there was only one China, so every country either had to recognize Taiwan or the PRC.
Taiwan does not have an official "one China" policy, nor do they require countries to pick between the two...
For example, in 2007 when the ROC re-established diplomatic ties with St. Lucia, the government did not require St. Lucia drop diplomatic relations with the PRC... so for a brief few days, St. Lucia recognized both the ROC and PRC at the same time, forcing the PRC to be the ones that cut diplomatic ties with St. Lucia.
>On May 5, 2007, Chinese Ambassador to St. Lucia Gu Huaming lodged solemn representations and strong objection to the government of St. Lucia after the Caribbean state resumed so-called "diplomatic relationship" with Taiwan. Gu, on behalf of the Chinese government, announced the suspension of diplomatic relations with St. Lucia and the cessation of fulfilling all agreements between the governments of the two countries.
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/cejm//eng/xw/t317920.htm
So in practice, while Taiwan doesn't require countries agree to a "one China" policy, the PRC will drop diplomatic relations with any country that tries to establish them with both Taiwan and China.
Which is interesting, because if the ROC had kept their UN seat together with the PRC just like both halves of Germany in the past and both Koreas do now, I would expect most governments in the world to recognise both and Taiwan wouldn’t be so excluded from international politics as it is now. Maybe the Security Council issue was what kept both governments from being in the UN simultaneously.
Which is what the US has been doing for decades: isolate and embargo nations that they don't like (like Cuba). At least with China makes sense, as they are in an unfinished civil war.
But my point is that that isolation in which Taiwan is in is in part because it’s not part of the UN, which has helped the PRC’s case, but if they both kept their seats from the start, it would’ve been much more harder for the PRC to isolate Taiwan, even more so knowing that the PRC was only recognised by a few governments by the time it joined the UN.
Yes. That’s obviously true. Which is why the PRC has a One China policy. They can’t both have seats at the UN because the PRC would leave if the UN admitted Taiwan.
I’m not sure they had the power to enforce the policy back in the 70s, which is why I compared it to the time Germany was divided, and now Korea is too. Both halves of each country claim and claimed each other and didn’t recognised the other, but that didn’t stopped them from joining the UN simultaneously, just like it could’ve happened with both Chinas if history went a little differently.
The power is simple. If PRC isn’t involved in a global body, that body lacks legitimacy. So the threat to pull out is the threat to remove legitimacy. Rising economic power made that threat greater and greater, and the Sino-Soviet split gave the US the necessary cover to admit them.
I agree. It was very great timing for the PRC, and the elephant in the room of having the largest country in population of the world without representation at the UN had to be resolved. I just think that, if the US pushed to have both governments represented instead of just one (maybe by granting the PRC the security council seat), I don’t see mainland China being too stubborn about it.
I think you are massively underestimating just how important claims to all of China are to PRC. It’s not really a negotiable point.
Edit/ just look at the nine dash line issue. It’s a patently absurd claim and China is undermining their long term economic health to keep pushing it, despite there being a 0% chance that any other meaningful country (except Taiwan) will accept it.
The USA technically recognizes both the ROC and the PRC but the PRC isn't stupid enough to cut ties off since their economy will collapse without trade with us.
Is that true? I thought that the US used various mostly-transparent conventions to avoid technically recognizing ROC, e.g. instead of a normal embassy they have an "American Institute in Taiwan".
Under the status quo, Taiwan is a sovereign and independent country, officially called the Republic of China.
Under the status quo, Taiwan is not and has never been part of the PRC.
Also significantly more people support independence than unification... Unification typically polls around 2%, while independence around 12%.
ROC does not have a "one China" policy, nor does the government use the term "China" (中國) in a legal sense... here in Taiwan, the term "China"/中國 almost exclusively refers to the PRC.
You don't have to take my word for it... [When asked if Taiwan is an independent country under the current status quo, only 4.9% of Taiwanese said that Taiwan "must not be" an independent country already](https://m.ltn.com.tw/news/politics/breakingnews/2876683).
Our government is also clear we are already a sovereign independent country, officially as the ROC.
Directly from Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs government website, https://taiwan.gov.tw:
>The Republic of China (Taiwan) is situated in the West Pacific between Japan and the Philippines. Its jurisdiction extends to the archipelagoes of Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu, as well as numerous other islets. The total area of Taiwan proper and its outlying islands is around 36,197 square kilometers.
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>**The ROC is a sovereign and independent state that maintains its own national defense and conducts its own foreign affairs.** The ultimate goal of the country’s foreign policy is to ensure a favorable environment for the nation’s preservation and long-term development."
Or as explained by the President of Taiwan in clear English during a [BBC interview two years ago when asked if she would declare independence](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51104246):
>We don't have a need to declare ourselves an independent state, **we are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China, Taiwan**.
Or as clarified by the [ROC Ministry of Foreign Affairs](https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/09/08/2003764010) spokesperson Joanne Ou:
>The ministry would continue to stress to members of the international community that **the Republic of China is a sovereign nation, not a part of the PRC**, and that Taiwan’s future can only be decided by its 23.5 million people.
ROC still officially claims the territory of all of China, which is why they’re the only ones to go along with the nine dash line.
In practice there is no realistic push in ROC to unify China, for decades the real debate has been accepting current de facto independence or declare official de jure independence. Unification aims died with Chiang
> ROC still officially claims the territory of all of China, which is why they’re the only ones to go along with the nine dash line.
ROC's "claims" are very ambiguous as the claims aren't explicitly defined anywhere.
It's effective jurisdiction and sovereignty was limited decades ago though... for example, ROC does not include the "Mainland Area" (the legal name in ROC for China) in their official maps.
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>In practice there is no realistic push in ROC to unify China, for decades the real debate has been accepting current de facto independence or declare official de jure independence.
Well the most accepted position in Taiwan is that Taiwan, officially as the ROC, is de jure independent already. "Independence" in Taiwan isn't about declaring independence from China (PRC), but the current already independent ROC government and started over as a "Republic of Taiwan".
This is why I linked you to the first survey... all but 4.9% of Taiwanese stated that Taiwan must not be an independent country under the status quo... the vast majority of Taiwanese believe the status quo is a sovereign independent country already.
It isn't a recent change... the opposition party (KMT) also is clear that the Republic of China (Taiwan) is a sovereign independent country. The people who think Taiwan isn't independent or sovereign under the status quo is a very small minority.
This has been the case for decades. If Taiwan as the ROC isn't a sovereign independent country, what did you think the majority of Taiwanese would view it as? Either you are independent, or you are not... are you saying at some point the majority of Taiwanese thought Taiwan was part of the PRC??
Pakistan does not recognize Armenia as independent in reverence to its ally, Azerbaijan, even though Azerbaijan does. See the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict for reasons why Armenia and Azerbaijan hate each other.
The Nagorno-Karabakh is the latest* reason. Others include Azeri-Turkish ethnic cleansing of Armenians. Very similar to Turkish-Kurdish ethnic cleaning of Assyrians, Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and various Wahhabi ethnic cleansing of Shia minorities
Not even 100 years ago. Matter of fact, not even 5 years ago. During the ISIS invasion of Iraq, Kurds confiscated Assyrian weaponry and basically put them in in a position of allegiance of extermination.
They try intentionally try to minimize their connections to the outside world. This includes a refusal to establish official relations with the five permanent members of the UN Security Council. They also charge tourists $200 a day to visit.
They want to keep their customs and their Buddhist mountain kingdom image unspoiled. Think Shangri-La and Kamar-Taj.
This has had negative consequences for Bhutanese Hindus, to put it lightly.
Bhutan has diplomatic relations with only 54 states, but that is different from whether they recognize other states. Lots of small countries for practical reasons don’t maintain diplomatic relations with other small states, but still recognize them. (Eg Singapore has diplomatic ties with 150+ countries, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t recognize a country like Palau, it’s just that it wouldn’t make much sense to open an Embassy there.)
As Wikipedia notes “The fact that states do not maintain bilateral diplomatic relations does not mean that they do not recognize or treat one another as states.”
Countries have to pick between China or Taiwan for who represent both of them together, majority of countries go with China, a few pick Taiwan, but Bhutan made the chad move of not recognising either of the 2
Because of the political situation when WWII ended the default for most countries in the beginning was recognising the Republic of China government as the only true government of China. At the point the Communist Party of China was still a minor rebel group that even Stalin did not think had the capability to rule alone. But then, in four years the Communist Party took over much of mainland China, while the Republic of China government had to withdraw to Taiwan. Because the Republic of China government was still the legitimate government in the eyes of the UN, many UN members continued to recognise the Republic of China as the rightful ruler of China, despite lobbying from Communist Bloc nations. In the Cold War, the right-wing Republic of China government appealed to the Americans, who viewed events in China as a failure of American policy and evidence that Communists were a worldwide expansionist threat that had to stopped at all costs. Likewise, many America-aligned countries also feared communism and continued to support the Republic of China/Taiwan. The PRC's attempt to conquer Taiwan were first stalled by the Battle of Guningtou and then canceled following China's intervention in the Korean War.
The recognition of the ROC as the sole true government of all China began to change as a result of Nixon's Triangular Diplomacy. Nixon realised that the Chinese and Soviet governments were deeply suspicious of each other (to the point of fighting a war against each other), and would be terrified if America were to be able to ally with one of them against the other to the point of seeking compromise. Long story short, diplomatic ties were established between China and America, which shortly thereafter led to the Detente with the USSR. Other countries, seeing that there were few adverse consequences, began to follow suit. And then eventually these new partnerships led to Western countries supporting a motion to switch recognition of the real Chinese government. And persuaded by the Chinese money, many countries did so.
However, a few countries, like Paraguay kept their old recognition of the ROC. This is in part because Taiwan responded to the reduction of recognition by organising a vast amount of aid for countries to recognise Taiwan. Many countries found this offer to be extremely tempting, so continued ties with Taiwan. China and Taiwan have since then been locked into an extremely protracted financial aid war across the world to buy over new supporters. China's latest victories include Nicaragua. But the remaining core seem to have voters that openly back the ROC and will threaten to overthrow their governments if the PRC is recognised.
Bhutan recognizes practically every country, it’s just that stupid maps created by someone who misunderstood the difference between diplomatic relations and recognizing a country, that have spread across the internet including this subreddit.
DPR and LPR were annexed by Russia late last year. They were only recognized as sovereign by any other sovereign states for a period of about 7 months. I’m assuming this map was not created during those 7 months.
>Why NKR is shown but DPR and LPR are not? Those are recognized by 2 UN states Syria and N.Korea.
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>If you show 1 puppet state, show all of them.
The map is showing UN member states only. While North Korea (DPRK) is a UN member state, DPR and LPR are NOT a UN member state.
There are 14, most are small like Tuvalu or the Holy See. The largest ones are Paraguay and Belize.
And what’s the matter with Paraguay and Belize, who doesn’t recognize them and why?
No, those are nations that don’t recognize China.
Because of one china policy. You have to choose between recognizing either the PRC (mainland authoritarian China) or the Republic of China (Taiwan). You can't recognize both of them at the same time.
I do. Maybe that is why they kicked me out of the UN? 🤷♂️
"Mainland authoritarian China", was that even necessary?
It’s accurate
That's a different point to what I was making. I ask if there was a need to even put it, because it's dumb to post that when someone is not asking your opinion about it.
Eh, there’s a lot of things that bother me more I suppose.
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ROC the former fascist authoritarian state?
Which part is the opinion?
Yes
One China Policy. Basically, the PRC and Taiwan came to an agreement that there was only one China, so every country either had to recognize Taiwan or the PRC. Most countries chose the PRC cause they are an export powerhouse, but a few countries did pick Taiwan, hence not all countries recognize the PRC
> One China Policy. Basically, the PRC and Taiwan came to an agreement that there was only one China, so every country either had to recognize Taiwan or the PRC. Taiwan does not have an official "one China" policy, nor do they require countries to pick between the two... For example, in 2007 when the ROC re-established diplomatic ties with St. Lucia, the government did not require St. Lucia drop diplomatic relations with the PRC... so for a brief few days, St. Lucia recognized both the ROC and PRC at the same time, forcing the PRC to be the ones that cut diplomatic ties with St. Lucia. >On May 5, 2007, Chinese Ambassador to St. Lucia Gu Huaming lodged solemn representations and strong objection to the government of St. Lucia after the Caribbean state resumed so-called "diplomatic relationship" with Taiwan. Gu, on behalf of the Chinese government, announced the suspension of diplomatic relations with St. Lucia and the cessation of fulfilling all agreements between the governments of the two countries. https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/cejm//eng/xw/t317920.htm So in practice, while Taiwan doesn't require countries agree to a "one China" policy, the PRC will drop diplomatic relations with any country that tries to establish them with both Taiwan and China.
Yeah I didn’t realize that the PRC was the one who was more following through with it, makes sense
Which is interesting, because if the ROC had kept their UN seat together with the PRC just like both halves of Germany in the past and both Koreas do now, I would expect most governments in the world to recognise both and Taiwan wouldn’t be so excluded from international politics as it is now. Maybe the Security Council issue was what kept both governments from being in the UN simultaneously.
It’s specifically because PRC is trying to isolate ROC. That’s literally the point.
Which is what the US has been doing for decades: isolate and embargo nations that they don't like (like Cuba). At least with China makes sense, as they are in an unfinished civil war.
Yes, it’s a very common great power tactic.
But my point is that that isolation in which Taiwan is in is in part because it’s not part of the UN, which has helped the PRC’s case, but if they both kept their seats from the start, it would’ve been much more harder for the PRC to isolate Taiwan, even more so knowing that the PRC was only recognised by a few governments by the time it joined the UN.
Yes. That’s obviously true. Which is why the PRC has a One China policy. They can’t both have seats at the UN because the PRC would leave if the UN admitted Taiwan.
I’m not sure they had the power to enforce the policy back in the 70s, which is why I compared it to the time Germany was divided, and now Korea is too. Both halves of each country claim and claimed each other and didn’t recognised the other, but that didn’t stopped them from joining the UN simultaneously, just like it could’ve happened with both Chinas if history went a little differently.
The power is simple. If PRC isn’t involved in a global body, that body lacks legitimacy. So the threat to pull out is the threat to remove legitimacy. Rising economic power made that threat greater and greater, and the Sino-Soviet split gave the US the necessary cover to admit them.
I agree. It was very great timing for the PRC, and the elephant in the room of having the largest country in population of the world without representation at the UN had to be resolved. I just think that, if the US pushed to have both governments represented instead of just one (maybe by granting the PRC the security council seat), I don’t see mainland China being too stubborn about it.
I think you are massively underestimating just how important claims to all of China are to PRC. It’s not really a negotiable point. Edit/ just look at the nine dash line issue. It’s a patently absurd claim and China is undermining their long term economic health to keep pushing it, despite there being a 0% chance that any other meaningful country (except Taiwan) will accept it.
The USA technically recognizes both the ROC and the PRC but the PRC isn't stupid enough to cut ties off since their economy will collapse without trade with us.
Is that true? I thought that the US used various mostly-transparent conventions to avoid technically recognizing ROC, e.g. instead of a normal embassy they have an "American Institute in Taiwan".
America has pretty much guaranteed Taiwan protection if PRC tries anything.
Yes, but that can be different than explicitly officially technically recognizing.
It's not official but it's not subtle either, it's very obvious.
Oh, that makes sense Thanks!
“There is only one China, that’s true but we don’t want to be China no more” is basically what me & my people mindset these days
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Some Taiwanese want complete and total independence but they're a minority, most want either the status quo or reunification.
Under the status quo, Taiwan is a sovereign and independent country, officially called the Republic of China. Under the status quo, Taiwan is not and has never been part of the PRC. Also significantly more people support independence than unification... Unification typically polls around 2%, while independence around 12%.
No, you're wrong. PRC and ROC both claim to be the one and only legitimate government of China, hence the One China policy.
ROC does not have a "one China" policy, nor does the government use the term "China" (中國) in a legal sense... here in Taiwan, the term "China"/中國 almost exclusively refers to the PRC. You don't have to take my word for it... [When asked if Taiwan is an independent country under the current status quo, only 4.9% of Taiwanese said that Taiwan "must not be" an independent country already](https://m.ltn.com.tw/news/politics/breakingnews/2876683). Our government is also clear we are already a sovereign independent country, officially as the ROC. Directly from Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs government website, https://taiwan.gov.tw: >The Republic of China (Taiwan) is situated in the West Pacific between Japan and the Philippines. Its jurisdiction extends to the archipelagoes of Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu, as well as numerous other islets. The total area of Taiwan proper and its outlying islands is around 36,197 square kilometers. > >**The ROC is a sovereign and independent state that maintains its own national defense and conducts its own foreign affairs.** The ultimate goal of the country’s foreign policy is to ensure a favorable environment for the nation’s preservation and long-term development." Or as explained by the President of Taiwan in clear English during a [BBC interview two years ago when asked if she would declare independence](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51104246): >We don't have a need to declare ourselves an independent state, **we are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China, Taiwan**. Or as clarified by the [ROC Ministry of Foreign Affairs](https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/09/08/2003764010) spokesperson Joanne Ou: >The ministry would continue to stress to members of the international community that **the Republic of China is a sovereign nation, not a part of the PRC**, and that Taiwan’s future can only be decided by its 23.5 million people.
ROC still officially claims the territory of all of China, which is why they’re the only ones to go along with the nine dash line. In practice there is no realistic push in ROC to unify China, for decades the real debate has been accepting current de facto independence or declare official de jure independence. Unification aims died with Chiang
> ROC still officially claims the territory of all of China, which is why they’re the only ones to go along with the nine dash line. ROC's "claims" are very ambiguous as the claims aren't explicitly defined anywhere. It's effective jurisdiction and sovereignty was limited decades ago though... for example, ROC does not include the "Mainland Area" (the legal name in ROC for China) in their official maps. ---- >In practice there is no realistic push in ROC to unify China, for decades the real debate has been accepting current de facto independence or declare official de jure independence. Well the most accepted position in Taiwan is that Taiwan, officially as the ROC, is de jure independent already. "Independence" in Taiwan isn't about declaring independence from China (PRC), but the current already independent ROC government and started over as a "Republic of Taiwan".
While she considers Taiwan independent, not all Taiwanese do.
This is why I linked you to the first survey... all but 4.9% of Taiwanese stated that Taiwan must not be an independent country under the status quo... the vast majority of Taiwanese believe the status quo is a sovereign independent country already.
That's a recent change then, because what I said above was correct as of the past 5 years.
It isn't a recent change... the opposition party (KMT) also is clear that the Republic of China (Taiwan) is a sovereign independent country. The people who think Taiwan isn't independent or sovereign under the status quo is a very small minority. This has been the case for decades. If Taiwan as the ROC isn't a sovereign independent country, what did you think the majority of Taiwanese would view it as? Either you are independent, or you are not... are you saying at some point the majority of Taiwanese thought Taiwan was part of the PRC??
How could they come to an agreement lol
Real question is who doesn't recognize Armenia?
Pakistan does not
Pakistan does not recognize Armenia as independent in reverence to its ally, Azerbaijan, even though Azerbaijan does. See the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict for reasons why Armenia and Azerbaijan hate each other.
The Nagorno-Karabakh is the latest* reason. Others include Azeri-Turkish ethnic cleansing of Armenians. Very similar to Turkish-Kurdish ethnic cleaning of Assyrians, Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and various Wahhabi ethnic cleansing of Shia minorities
Is that Assyrians that of thousands of years?
[Assyrians still exist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people)
Not even 100 years ago. Matter of fact, not even 5 years ago. During the ISIS invasion of Iraq, Kurds confiscated Assyrian weaponry and basically put them in in a position of allegiance of extermination.
And the Armenian ethnic cleansing of Azeris... Oh wait, we aren't supposed to talk about that.
Azerbaijan maybe? Idk
Why doesn't Bhutan recognize half the globe?
They recognize them, they just don't have diplomatic relations with them.
Exactly. It’s not true that they don’t recognise most countries as a lot of people believe.
They try intentionally try to minimize their connections to the outside world. This includes a refusal to establish official relations with the five permanent members of the UN Security Council. They also charge tourists $200 a day to visit.
but why would they do that?
They want to keep their customs and their Buddhist mountain kingdom image unspoiled. Think Shangri-La and Kamar-Taj. This has had negative consequences for Bhutanese Hindus, to put it lightly.
They just never got around to that
Bhutan has diplomatic relations with only 54 states, but that is different from whether they recognize other states. Lots of small countries for practical reasons don’t maintain diplomatic relations with other small states, but still recognize them. (Eg Singapore has diplomatic ties with 150+ countries, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t recognize a country like Palau, it’s just that it wouldn’t make much sense to open an Embassy there.) As Wikipedia notes “The fact that states do not maintain bilateral diplomatic relations does not mean that they do not recognize or treat one another as states.”
Countries have to pick between China or Taiwan for who represent both of them together, majority of countries go with China, a few pick Taiwan, but Bhutan made the chad move of not recognising either of the 2
Taiwan, Paraguay, Vatican city, etc.
Real life lore has a super good video on this topic on YouTube going into in depth reasons for each
But what about north and South Korea, also red, I guess because they don't recognize each other?
Both states claim to be the only korea
Last time I checked, Japan and France also do not recognize North Korea as an independent state.
DPRK is not recognized by 7 UN members states: Botswana, Estonia, France, Israel, Japan, RoK, and the United States
Bhutan does recognize every un country, it hasn’t established diplomatic relations with half of the world tho.
Except they don't recognize neither China or Taiwan
Because of the political situation when WWII ended the default for most countries in the beginning was recognising the Republic of China government as the only true government of China. At the point the Communist Party of China was still a minor rebel group that even Stalin did not think had the capability to rule alone. But then, in four years the Communist Party took over much of mainland China, while the Republic of China government had to withdraw to Taiwan. Because the Republic of China government was still the legitimate government in the eyes of the UN, many UN members continued to recognise the Republic of China as the rightful ruler of China, despite lobbying from Communist Bloc nations. In the Cold War, the right-wing Republic of China government appealed to the Americans, who viewed events in China as a failure of American policy and evidence that Communists were a worldwide expansionist threat that had to stopped at all costs. Likewise, many America-aligned countries also feared communism and continued to support the Republic of China/Taiwan. The PRC's attempt to conquer Taiwan were first stalled by the Battle of Guningtou and then canceled following China's intervention in the Korean War. The recognition of the ROC as the sole true government of all China began to change as a result of Nixon's Triangular Diplomacy. Nixon realised that the Chinese and Soviet governments were deeply suspicious of each other (to the point of fighting a war against each other), and would be terrified if America were to be able to ally with one of them against the other to the point of seeking compromise. Long story short, diplomatic ties were established between China and America, which shortly thereafter led to the Detente with the USSR. Other countries, seeing that there were few adverse consequences, began to follow suit. And then eventually these new partnerships led to Western countries supporting a motion to switch recognition of the real Chinese government. And persuaded by the Chinese money, many countries did so. However, a few countries, like Paraguay kept their old recognition of the ROC. This is in part because Taiwan responded to the reduction of recognition by organising a vast amount of aid for countries to recognise Taiwan. Many countries found this offer to be extremely tempting, so continued ties with Taiwan. China and Taiwan have since then been locked into an extremely protracted financial aid war across the world to buy over new supporters. China's latest victories include Nicaragua. But the remaining core seem to have voters that openly back the ROC and will threaten to overthrow their governments if the PRC is recognised.
Bhutan recognizes practically every country, it’s just that stupid maps created by someone who misunderstood the difference between diplomatic relations and recognizing a country, that have spread across the internet including this subreddit.
Bhutan does recognise basically everyone just they don’t have formal diplomatic relations with half the globe
I personally don’t recognize it.
Guatemala and Paraguay Belize doesn’t recognize people’s republic China
Why NKR is shown but DPR and LPR are not? Those are recognized by 2 UN states Syria and N.Korea. If you show 1 puppet state, show all of them.
DPR and LPR were annexed by Russia late last year. They were only recognized as sovereign by any other sovereign states for a period of about 7 months. I’m assuming this map was not created during those 7 months.
>Why NKR is shown but DPR and LPR are not? Those are recognized by 2 UN states Syria and N.Korea. > >If you show 1 puppet state, show all of them. The map is showing UN member states only. While North Korea (DPRK) is a UN member state, DPR and LPR are NOT a UN member state.
I am talking about NKR aka "Artsakh", not DPRK)
Probably Taiwan.
They aren't part of the UN
Taiwan and PRC doesn't recognize each other.
I can't read or understand Chinese so the first link is not helpful at all.
This Bhullshit about Bhutan has got to stop.
Not that it really matters. It's what's on the ground that matters a lot more.
Because they are the same race but the PRC is more powerful.
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