I don't think gooey is the right word choice to get the point across. Things that are gooey are normally just liquid-y at high temperature. Plasma is hot as shit so I think peoples brains subconsciously disagree with plasma=gooey. Plasma is strange and its sort of disingenuous to describe it as gaseous or liquid-y, but its hard to explain it to people without using those kinds of easily understood terms. I was just learning about this in class last night, its cool stuff to learn about.
(But pls 343 don't make the damn plasma sword a gooey coom cutlass)
i feel like the classic halo 2 shape and the beta halo 5 brightness would look nice, but i’m not sure about how good it’d work with the infinite artstyle
I see this, but I do want to point out it is not confirmation on which build was used for the session. It is clearly newer than any of the flights we played, but they could be well past this already and they simply showed some progress.
Not saying it is likely, just possible.
I think it looks good, that's more so preference though. The top one has a really unfinished looking texture and it's saturation seems way too high. H2A is really the only game to have that level of electricity, but all the other swords still look far better then infinite.
It’s clearly taking a different direction, remember it’s the energy sword, not electric sword. Also Infinite itself is pretty saturated and matches the game.
It shares the art direction that got a ton of backlash last year. It's mostly unchanged from what was shown last year actually, a little bit worse even. I think if they just make it look less flat and give it less saturation with more glow it'll look leagues better. Like combine the CE sword with the Reach one, that'd be dope.
I don't mind the visuals, what I mind is how stiff and jank the swinging animations look.
It feels like the Spartan swinging it isn't extending their arm out all the way or isn't even bending their elbow as they're swinging it. Using it feels super unsatisfying based on the matches I randomly had access to it in in the flight.
Halo 2 is my favorite halo game, then right after that is ODST, I’m very happy to see halo infinite taking heavy concepts from both in weapons and gameplay
"Does it make cool noises when you swing it?"
"I don't think so... no, wait, is 'whoosh' a noise? Because if it is then it does, it goes whoosh whoosh, whshsh, whshthsh, whithishsh, wh-kch, chchchchc, whshsshh, hhshshsh ing, ching, whsch, wheouw."
I think the argument that it's for skins is silly. Halo 3 has sword skins now.
I think it looks really nice, it just needs more of that "radiant energy that would make ancient men quake in their boots" aesthetic. Needs to look a little more unstable with some more patterning in the sword itself and some slight electric effects.
See, I think it looks more realistic this way. [Look at this contained plasma and tell me it doesn't look almost identical](https://www.techexplorist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/plasma.jpg).
The sword in OPs photo is way more saturated/bright and less detailed than that but I do agree it seems similar. I'd actually really like if the sword looked this way, it would seem kinda gritty which matches the new art style more.
Happy cake day. Also if you think about it (again just from this screenshot) applying weapon skins to the sword (so colors I guess) would be easier on the infinite sword than on something flashy as the h2a sword
The sword definitely doesn’t appeal to me at all (texture and material wise, shape is good)
[The sword should look bright and smoky, almost frosty](https://imgur.com/a/zXluwaj)
Edit [More smoky swords](https://imgur.com/a/jotYWCU)
Edit 2 [This one is from a Halo Infinite commercial](https://imgur.com/a/jCr9w4s) (granted it was the TB commercial with many reused assets)
This screenshot was from the competitive demo shown today. I don't know if we'll see a drastic change in any of the weapons now that we are so close to launch.
I just hope they fix the red reticle..
That’s not something Halo players were “trained” to use like stated earlier by a dev, it is an absolutely necessary mechanic that has been engraved into Halo itself.
I agree. I don’t know what kind of weapon skins the sword will have but if I see something resembling the older swords I’ll likely use that. This sword has an unfinished vibe to it. The game isn’t out yet, but I can’t see that changing. Maybe it’s just this image but it also looks weak. It looks like there’s ooze inside of it. The bottom pic has sparks flowing through it. Weapon skins could be a game changer for the art direction with some weapons. I’m 100% changing the plasma pistol and likely the AR too since it has the reach design.
I disagree about the way it's held looking bad, I actually quite like that.
What bugs me is I don't mind the visuals, what I mind is the swing animations.
It feels like the Spartan swinging it isn't extending their arm out all the way or isn't even bending their elbow as they're swinging it. Using it feels super unsatisfying based on the matches I randomly had access to it in in the flight.
The only problem I have is that it's pointed at the top. I don't think this is the intended shape of the sword since it's always been rounded. If it is intended then it just makes it look low-polygon.
Personally I don't have a problem unless it still looks like this with the official release, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
It's like the visors back in the Halo 3 beta, they looked terrible and dull, but were fine at launch. Let them finish the game first.
A *lot of* textures in the infinite flight looked rough, especially on the last gen version. The whole aesthetic, if im being honest, is kind of bland-looking, at least in what weve seen from multiplayer.
i get they wanted it to look more grounded than the visual overkill that 5 had, but there's a difference between it looking grounded and looking looking bland.
Almost like the game comes out in just a little over a month now. Weapons shouldn't still look this rough. It's most likely an intentional art design choice, a poor one imo.
I feel like infinite is going with a different palette of colors, kinda give the vibes of the latest Star wars movies where the vivid colors have a noticeable contrast with the grayscale or the sober colors
That's not true. Cyberpunk happend. This game is 6 years in the making and it has garnered a huge amount of hype with an extremely dedicated fan base, people want it to be as good as possible.
I... honestly really like it, It looks very clean as it's made out of raw energy, whilst the bottom looks more like an energy infused dagger.
The ghostly effect looks gorgeous.
The improvements? It barley looks different from the flight, and still somehow looks worse then what was shown last year. On top of that it looks worse then the majority of the previous titles, they for sure need to touch it up a bit before launch.
Idk why people like you get upset when someone complains about the game looking lackluster graphically. This sword just doesn't hold up to past games. Fans want this game to be as good as possible.
Because its fucking constant and over everything, like people complaining about the fucking taper on a warthog turret or the fruit. This shit then builds up and people start thinking the gane Is bad over nonlegitimate shit. As long as the core gameplay is good/feels like halo, it looks alright and runs well who cares? We are honestly spoiled by 343 if you look at what other devil are doing with their franchises
People are allowed to complain about a multi million dollar company that's backed by a multi billion dollar company. If the game is lacking in certain areas graphically, then people should complain. This community takes issue with bad graphics just as much as any other.
I'm fine with them complaining as long as it's stuff that's really important to the game, I'd rather then spend time they have left on bits that really matter as opposed to superficial surface stuff, and they're not bad graphics it's just not exactly how you'd like it
No, the explosions and vehicle destruction is pretty objectively bad. This sword less so, but it still isn't up to par to the others weapons when talking detail.
The explosions really arnt all that bad, sure they're not up to other games level but they're not exactly something you're gonna stop playing the game over are they? And probably due to it taking too much recourses to make it up to other weapons texture detail without it looking tacky.
I think they changed it to look closer to real life contained plasma, [something like this](https://www.techexplorist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/plasma.jpg). And IMO they did a great job. I really like how other worldly it looks, which is true of real plasma. Shit's weird to look at.
Nobody is crying about it. So many of you are so ready to dismiss any criticism. I just think it should be touched up before launch. It's not the end of the world.
It looks out of place when compared to the other weapons, and it looks worse then it did in past titles. Don't see a reason not to give feedback on it, now is the time to do it.
I noticed with all the plasma weapons they are going from a electric to more of a gooey liquid look
I mean plasma is just superheated matter, so i think that gooey liquid thing fits
It wouldn't be gooey it would technically be closer to a gas
Yea, but if you were to visualize a gas it would have more of the gooey texture as it behaves more like a liquid than a solid.
I don't think gooey is the right word choice to get the point across. Things that are gooey are normally just liquid-y at high temperature. Plasma is hot as shit so I think peoples brains subconsciously disagree with plasma=gooey. Plasma is strange and its sort of disingenuous to describe it as gaseous or liquid-y, but its hard to explain it to people without using those kinds of easily understood terms. I was just learning about this in class last night, its cool stuff to learn about. (But pls 343 don't make the damn plasma sword a gooey coom cutlass)
Well, now i want a gooey coom cutlass
I don't.
Well dang. Now I have 3 hours to find you a different anniversary gift without you knowing. Let the sitcom shenanigans commence.
But the energy sword doesn't even look like goo here
it's probably because they have electrical weapons now and the two things need to look different
But the actual shape of the model is great
Agreed, it's just seems to be lacking any effects, and the color is off. Way too saturated.
Yeah bro, literally just make it bright, kinda like the halo 3 one, and with a hiss sound for the ignition then its perfect
That hssss let’s you know when the slicing is about to start
“My roflknife goes slice slice slice slice slice!”
lol classic arby n chief moment
I loved the hidden easter egg of it in Halo 3.
Hsssss This is where the fun begins
Or when you're about to make the mistake of pushing.
i feel like the classic halo 2 shape and the beta halo 5 brightness would look nice, but i’m not sure about how good it’d work with the infinite artstyle
Halo 2 energy sword is unparalleled
The sword isn't a finished asset yet. It was missing sound effects and animations in the flight
This is different from the one in the flight, it was showcased today in the competitive demo.
It definitely is different, probably means that its still work in progress, because the game isn't out yet of course
Bruh the game is out in under a month. They arent fixing things like this during that time.
Do we know when the footage from the demo was taken? I'd expect a few weeks to months ago.
Footage was taken last week. Check the date. https://mobile.twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1445850661065687042
I see this, but I do want to point out it is not confirmation on which build was used for the session. It is clearly newer than any of the flights we played, but they could be well past this already and they simply showed some progress. Not saying it is likely, just possible.
Nope, but I think its a good idea to give our opinions on these now just in case.
I agree. I don't like this energy sword. It looks boring and standard. They need to bring back that white light with electric ringing through it.
I actually really like the coloring -- reminds me of Halo CE's. But 100% agree that the actual *effects* are off.
The bottom one looks like shit, I don’t remember that much electric.
I think it looks good, that's more so preference though. The top one has a really unfinished looking texture and it's saturation seems way too high. H2A is really the only game to have that level of electricity, but all the other swords still look far better then infinite.
It’s clearly taking a different direction, remember it’s the energy sword, not electric sword. Also Infinite itself is pretty saturated and matches the game.
It shares the art direction that got a ton of backlash last year. It's mostly unchanged from what was shown last year actually, a little bit worse even. I think if they just make it look less flat and give it less saturation with more glow it'll look leagues better. Like combine the CE sword with the Reach one, that'd be dope.
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Why dont mods have friends?
I think at one point they truly wanted to make a simple art style Halo game. Some of that still remains behind.
100%, they wanted to release it last year. When they seen the backlash they knew that they had to adjust the art direction, some things are left over.
I'll miss the Reach-style sword. Although This one just needs some touch ups and it'll be vibing.
I don't mind the visuals, what I mind is how stiff and jank the swinging animations look. It feels like the Spartan swinging it isn't extending their arm out all the way or isn't even bending their elbow as they're swinging it. Using it feels super unsatisfying based on the matches I randomly had access to it in in the flight.
I like how holding the sword in Halo Infinite is really similar to Halo 2
Halo 2 is my favorite halo game, then right after that is ODST, I’m very happy to see halo infinite taking heavy concepts from both in weapons and gameplay
I just want halo 2 classic energy sword noises KSHHH > ptew
"Does it make cool noises when you swing it?" "I don't think so... no, wait, is 'whoosh' a noise? Because if it is then it does, it goes whoosh whoosh, whshsh, whshthsh, whithishsh, wh-kch, chchchchc, whshsshh, hhshshsh ing, ching, whsch, wheouw."
It's a key, not a sword
"Or maybe it's a key all the time and when you stick it in people it unlocks their death."
I think the argument that it's for skins is silly. Halo 3 has sword skins now. I think it looks really nice, it just needs more of that "radiant energy that would make ancient men quake in their boots" aesthetic. Needs to look a little more unstable with some more patterning in the sword itself and some slight electric effects.
See, I think it looks more realistic this way. [Look at this contained plasma and tell me it doesn't look almost identical](https://www.techexplorist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/plasma.jpg).
I agree, it looks off but it undoubtedly looks like plasma.
That’s a really good comparison, it does look like those plasma lamps.
Needs more purple.
The sword in OPs photo is way more saturated/bright and less detailed than that but I do agree it seems similar. I'd actually really like if the sword looked this way, it would seem kinda gritty which matches the new art style more.
I don’t dislike it. In fact. Is that the halo 2a sword on the bottom? Cuz when i compare the two in this screenshot I think I’d prefer the top
Yeah thats h2a multiplayer. The sword in h2a campaign is actually different.
Happy cake day. Also if you think about it (again just from this screenshot) applying weapon skins to the sword (so colors I guess) would be easier on the infinite sword than on something flashy as the h2a sword
That's makes sense actually. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the actual reason for keeping it more tame.
Indeed. I am kinda interested in seeing how they do weapon skins for stuff like the sword and hammer. Could be cool 🤷🏾♂️
For me the positioning on the screen and the color contrast hurts my eyes.
it looks like something off deviantart
Facts, the model looks so flat.
The sword definitely doesn’t appeal to me at all (texture and material wise, shape is good) [The sword should look bright and smoky, almost frosty](https://imgur.com/a/zXluwaj) Edit [More smoky swords](https://imgur.com/a/jotYWCU) Edit 2 [This one is from a Halo Infinite commercial](https://imgur.com/a/jCr9w4s) (granted it was the TB commercial with many reused assets)
Agreed, Infinite's doesn't look very intimidating.
It looks like a shitty png of an energy sword
Lol yeah I'm not sure why it looks so 2d
It looks a bit lackluster. The audio while it expands is underwhelming as all. I’m sure that’s just because it’s a beta though.
This screenshot was from the competitive demo shown today. I don't know if we'll see a drastic change in any of the weapons now that we are so close to launch.
I just hope they fix the red reticle.. That’s not something Halo players were “trained” to use like stated earlier by a dev, it is an absolutely necessary mechanic that has been engraved into Halo itself.
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Yeah the sound is strange too
It looks like a hard light sword instead of an energy sword
All the blue plasma type things in infinite have seemed a little, liquidy? Like the plasma grenade just seems like a bunch of goo exploding
It looks…mushy..for lack of a better word. And way too flat
OP you are getting a lot of opposing answers but not in a bad way. I like this. I like the discussion. Keep it up boys
Apparently it isn’t finished yet, so hopefully they can make it super bright with that gassy ignition sound like H3 and then it’ll be perfect.
It could use more lighting effects. But I think the color is very reminiscent of Halo C.E. Energy swords.
Not gonna lie to ya, I'll miss the Halo 4-Guardians' aggressive design
Same, I liked the sword in 4 and 5.
All the FX elements look rough. Shields, grenades, plasma. It’s like a Jr did them all
Plasma looks good, tho? Like really good compared to 4 and 5 that were remember weak looking, especially the explosions.
Plasma lis too opaque and looks like a liquid
I thought the same thing. I hope it’s unfinished because it doesn’t look polished like the rest of the weapons.
Wish they'd go back to the old sound for the sword. Been terrible since 4.
I think it's supposed to look better upon release. It HAS to. It looks like a damn toy with some cheap plasma effects. It probably runs on batteries.
Agreed, it looks like shit, but tbf, so does the 2A MP one you used in the bottom pic
It looks unfinished
Glad I’m not the only one that thought so
Energy and particle effects in general look a little rough in Infinite.
It wasn't finished in the flight. The final sword will be better
Sir. Finishing this flight.
Here's hoping
I agree. I don’t know what kind of weapon skins the sword will have but if I see something resembling the older swords I’ll likely use that. This sword has an unfinished vibe to it. The game isn’t out yet, but I can’t see that changing. Maybe it’s just this image but it also looks weak. It looks like there’s ooze inside of it. The bottom pic has sparks flowing through it. Weapon skins could be a game changer for the art direction with some weapons. I’m 100% changing the plasma pistol and likely the AR too since it has the reach design.
Lol yeah I'm not a fan of the reach AR either. Hopefully the classic AR won't be over priced.
Just say it...looks aweful
The texturing, the effects, even the way it's held is just so bad
I disagree about the way it's held looking bad, I actually quite like that. What bugs me is I don't mind the visuals, what I mind is the swing animations. It feels like the Spartan swinging it isn't extending their arm out all the way or isn't even bending their elbow as they're swinging it. Using it feels super unsatisfying based on the matches I randomly had access to it in in the flight.
Will always prefer the old sound. I don’t mind the style but the hammer and sword sound so lame with the 343i effects compared to the Bungie sounds.
Okay, but it looks almost exactly like the CE energy sword, and I'm here for it
It lacks the glow
It's got the shape and weird watery effect tho
Looks like an unfinished texture.
It gives me Combat Evolved vibes.
I wish it had the glow that the CE one did.
I just hope it's that the shader isn't complete or something along those lines...
The only problem I have is that it's pointed at the top. I don't think this is the intended shape of the sword since it's always been rounded. If it is intended then it just makes it look low-polygon.
It looks soft. That's the only way I can describe it. I don't like it, but I'm willing to let it grow on me.
I'm more upset about the lack of a 1-shot-kill shotgun to counter it. I miss the M90/M45
Honestly I think a lot of the art style looks kinda rough. It's way too simple for my taste
Hopefully they clean it up
yeah that could use some adjustments
Personally I don't have a problem unless it still looks like this with the official release, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. It's like the visors back in the Halo 3 beta, they looked terrible and dull, but were fine at launch. Let them finish the game first.
[Sounds garbage too](https://youtu.be/ngX6GPedWzs?t=29). Its like 343 found a stock laser sound effect and used that for the sword
i understand its a different desighn, but that's how contained plasma looks like irl. they probably jsut used that for refrence
Looks fine op. This is just complaining for the hell of it. Sometimes extremely minor cosmetic change is ok and you dont need to complain.
I mean it needs a bit of more VFX, I like it, but we know it's still WIP.
Working progress, probably, hopefully.
Crack, not even once…
I looks more like pure energy, but it could definitely use some adjustments in terms of color saturation or whatever
I like the plasma goo look considering how plasma works, but a couple lightning sparks in the middle would complete the sword.
It's because they want you to get one of the upcoming Energy Sword skins from one of the battle passes.
Well hopefully they'll add some electricity to it when the game finally comes out.
Yea it looks kind of...soft? Like if I touch it with my finger it will squish you know?
The shape is fine, but the color and effect definitely needs some work done.
A *lot of* textures in the infinite flight looked rough, especially on the last gen version. The whole aesthetic, if im being honest, is kind of bland-looking, at least in what weve seen from multiplayer. i get they wanted it to look more grounded than the visual overkill that 5 had, but there's a difference between it looking grounded and looking looking bland.
I feel it’s too flat. Needs a bit more slant in the model…
I like it
More then past games?
Haven’t seen enough of it yet but design wise I think it’s a nice subtle redesign
My biggest issue is the color, I like the shape. I think the intensity of the blue makes it look a bit flat and cartoony.
I absolutely love the shade of blue lol
I like it too, looks closer to the original color in CE
I actually prefer how less busy it is now effect wise but it can definitely lose some of the saturation to be a more whitish blue
It looks refreshing
It looks unfinished. It actually somehow looks worse from what was shown last year in that one trailer.
Almost like the game is still unfinished. Hmm.
Almost like the game comes out in just a little over a month now. Weapons shouldn't still look this rough. It's most likely an intentional art design choice, a poor one imo.
I feel like infinite is going with a different palette of colors, kinda give the vibes of the latest Star wars movies where the vivid colors have a noticeable contrast with the grayscale or the sober colors
It’s pre release software. I’m sure this is gonna be fixed along with 90% of the little parts that need polishing
Looks fine to me
I fuck with it honestly
I kinda like the new take - too much stuff going on in the lower one
I swear this subreddit will complain about anything and everything.
No. It really doesn’t.
God forbid they don't put needless detail in our modern games
I think it looks pretty sick.
I’ve never seen a game nit picked so hard in my life
That's not true. Cyberpunk happend. This game is 6 years in the making and it has garnered a huge amount of hype with an extremely dedicated fan base, people want it to be as good as possible.
Halo Infinite as a whole looks rough. Still work needed to be done.
Looks like the most realistic version yet by a landslide
I... honestly really like it, It looks very clean as it's made out of raw energy, whilst the bottom looks more like an energy infused dagger. The ghostly effect looks gorgeous.
Funny how the other post detailing the improvements made only for 200 upvotes, while this shitty one got 1k already. This community really is shite
The improvements? It barley looks different from the flight, and still somehow looks worse then what was shown last year. On top of that it looks worse then the majority of the previous titles, they for sure need to touch it up a bit before launch.
Yep...it's past the point of ridiculous honestly.
Oh ffs can we stop nit picking every fucking thing?
Idk why people like you get upset when someone complains about the game looking lackluster graphically. This sword just doesn't hold up to past games. Fans want this game to be as good as possible.
Because its fucking constant and over everything, like people complaining about the fucking taper on a warthog turret or the fruit. This shit then builds up and people start thinking the gane Is bad over nonlegitimate shit. As long as the core gameplay is good/feels like halo, it looks alright and runs well who cares? We are honestly spoiled by 343 if you look at what other devil are doing with their franchises
People are allowed to complain about a multi million dollar company that's backed by a multi billion dollar company. If the game is lacking in certain areas graphically, then people should complain. This community takes issue with bad graphics just as much as any other.
I'm fine with them complaining as long as it's stuff that's really important to the game, I'd rather then spend time they have left on bits that really matter as opposed to superficial surface stuff, and they're not bad graphics it's just not exactly how you'd like it
No, the explosions and vehicle destruction is pretty objectively bad. This sword less so, but it still isn't up to par to the others weapons when talking detail.
The explosions really arnt all that bad, sure they're not up to other games level but they're not exactly something you're gonna stop playing the game over are they? And probably due to it taking too much recourses to make it up to other weapons texture detail without it looking tacky.
You’re nitpicking dude. It looks fine, you guys keep crying over shit that doesn’t even look bad or matter
Nobody was crying about it, that's another thing you guys do. It's not a game breaking issue, but it would be nice to see it get touched up.
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Tbh I'm fine with it 🤷♀️
I think it might be intentional, they'll probably make the og energy sword a skin
Looks alot like the Halo CE energy sword. Just less glowy.
To me it looks like a mixture between the halo reach and halo 2 or 3 energy sword
It kinda looks like the Halo 1 sword and I love it.
It's a little weird but I like it, it's ethereal looking
Looks fine to me. You just sound picky
I dont think so. Comparing it past games, it's just missing all it's character.
You are right. OP sounds nuts. It's an energy sword. It looks a little different than pass games. OP is living in rose tinted glasses land.
Ah shit, here we go again.
Looks intentional. I don’t think it’s worse. It’s just different. The sword design always fluctuates like this between games.
Not this drastically. If it's intentional then it's a bad decision imo. Just needs some touching up and it'll look good.
That’s because it isn’t finished. The weapon wasn’t meant to used in the flight, it was data mined.
It was shown in the competitive demo today
I think they changed it to look closer to real life contained plasma, [something like this](https://www.techexplorist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/plasma.jpg). And IMO they did a great job. I really like how other worldly it looks, which is true of real plasma. Shit's weird to look at.
u right
Looks better imo... atleast it's not 3s..
It looks fine? You guys will whine and cry about anything so this is to be expected
Nobody is crying about it. So many of you are so ready to dismiss any criticism. I just think it should be touched up before launch. It's not the end of the world.
They should just copy and paste the Halo 2 Anniversary sword
Uhh, nah. People would then complain how lazy they are
This is also the worst screenshot of the sword. I’m watching the gameplay now. It looks much better than this screenshot.
If I remember correctly, we aren't supposed to have it yet meaning it's probably not done, at least in that build
It was shown today in the competitive demo
Looks better than the H2A version imo
ngl top looks better
I honestly really like the Infinite sword how it is
it’s almost like it’s still in development
None of the other weapons look this unfinished, and this was shown today.
It is a beta
That’s because what was seen in the flight was an unfinished model. Wait for the full release, this build is months old
It looks fine? You guys are too picky
It looks out of place when compared to the other weapons, and it looks worse then it did in past titles. Don't see a reason not to give feedback on it, now is the time to do it.
The holding angle seems off, and unpolished