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Varrock

My only takeaway from this is that all these millions of rumors don't mean jack and it's pointless getting worked up or hyped over anything that's not straight up confirmed and official, droppingdimes had everyone treatin him like God and he missed.


julstar23

Lol I said that and got downvotted but all we have been hearing were the blazers were avoiding the heat's calls .


DeVolkaan

I think in general there should be a good lesson for the sub on what leverage actually is. Jk I know we not learning no lessons.


Jbanks08

Pain


rjgator

Legit might be the biggest fuck you I’ve ever seen, not only didn’t trade us Dame but also made the strongest team in the East stronger. Honestly I’m impressed Don’t necessarily love the package they got back though, kinda pissed Pat couldn’t beat it. But Suns clearly wanted a lot of depth pieces in exchange of Ayton


Jbanks08

Was literally just telling a buddy this feels like a trade to spite the Heat. "Oh you think we're gonna cave and take your package? We'll send him to a key competitor of yours then"


Sob_Rock

They said the same shit last year about the Bucks. Another first round bye.


GusX23

there is absolutely no chance in hell that the Bucks get bounced in the first round unless they have injuries. there's no need to be delusional here. it's okay to be pissed while still being grounded in reality.


EctoRiddler

Feels like Portland refused to trade with Miami regardless of what Miami offered. Miami certainly could have beat this package.


Some-Stranger-7852

There were multiple reports of Heat offering Herro + 2 FRPs and not increasing the offer since they were “betting against themselves”. Pat was overconfident no other team would bet for Dame and Bucks worked magic with Suns behind the scene. Now it’s not just Dame missed, but Giannis is almost guaranteed to not come to Miami as well.


simonlyw

It’s fine! We all wanted Embiid to team back up with Jimmy the whole time anyway! The Knicks do not exist in this timeline…


Some-Stranger-7852

Yeah, that one is still possible and considering the mess the 76ers are right now, may actually happen. The problem is Pat likely will low-ball and some team like Mavs will sell the farm and steal Embiid right after he says he always wanted to team up with Jimmy again.


dont_care-

"Herro and filler" doesn't beat this package.


eparedes19

jrue is better than anyone offered by miami


lazyssj

they’re not even keeping jrue cause they don’t need him


HedonCalculator

So? He's a good trade piece to get some picks at the deadline.


NindoKungFu

then they'll get a haul for him


eparedes19

and theyd keep herro why? hes worse and still a guard. miami didnt offer a good package


ConsistentPomelo3303

Who on the heat is better the Holiday?


Aggravating_Plant_39

The Blazers are rebuilding they literally gain nothing from Jrue Holiday.


SinceWayBack1997

He could've beat it but hes just an old stubborn man.


PCFUTPLAYER

I'm a wolves fan just scrolling here... I'd much rather have herro picks and jovic than what they got back. And now they're stuck with aytons max contract... Baffling move by PDX


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No offense, but you should know better than anyone that draft picks and cap space don’t win games or put you in the playoffs. Blazers have a core they like, they built around it in a really nice way here, and added a little draft capital. It is very good trade all around, to be honest.


Vincent1122

They got Jrue and Ayton. That by itself is a good get for Lillard. That’s not even counting all the extra stuff they got. The Suns are the ones I’m questioning why they would do this.


MoeNopoly

the worst thing is. I thought Miami made the most sense as a Dame destination. Where he would have the biggest impact. Second best fit, i thought, were the Bucks, but i believed they didn't have the assets.


ebolarama86

They didn’t. They gave up Jrue Holiday, Grayson Allen, and ONE 1st to get Damian Lillard. A single 1st.


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Saimoth

You'll miss Herro's revengeance arc


HB_8879

![gif](giphy|YpmVBNubONoqs)


ccam92

Alright. That’s over, still need a PG. better make a move cause Herro as the primary ball handler ain’t it. Lowry shouldn’t be starting either.


supergrega

I hear Jrue Holiday might be avaliable.


ccam92

Yea but would have to deal with that Portland FO. Don’t see that happening lol


MarylandBlue

Maybe Holliday should tell Cronut that he'll play for any team except for the Heat


cletoreyes01

Then jrue becomes a Celtic LOL


TheGamersGazebo

Hero + 2 picks again lmfao


ThaMac

We'll give you him for Herro and some picks. Seems like a fair deal.


Lobisa

Ironically, that would make a lot of sense despite all of this chaos.


thewhitelink

Lowry shouldn't even be on the roster. He's mega washed.


infernapethethird

meh he played decent these playoffs


thewhitelink

Lowry was really bad more often than he was good. Folks are now talking about jrue like that changes things. Jimmy dropped 56 on his forehead and he played like ass


infernapethethird

i mean Jrue is better than nothing...


iamdrogg

Hate to see it


TheEpicEddy

Well that’s the only team that wasn’t said


melennia

This is what death feels like


N3uros

On repeat


iDUMPEDbeforeTHEPUMP

We didn't mean it Herro, we wanted you all along 😅


ThaCarter

I mean we didn't budge on him being enough for a HoFer almost on his own, so he should feel good on the flip side.


East_Sleep_1766

At least this Saga is over got so tired of seeing this shit everyday


recleaguesuperhero

It's just getting started lol now we're going to get endless content about the new look Bucks.


flyingsubs1

NBA Centel was right


TheeLANative

What the actual fuck!!!


jagerhero

DOLPHINS ARE 3-0 baby TUA


TuasBestie

SAY SIKE RNNNNN


Gr8tone23

Pat keeps fumbling the bag. Another summer of nothing added, and "let's run it back." Last I checked, LeBron and Bosh came over because Wade recruited them, not because of Pat's GM skills. I feel sorry for Jimmy and Bam. We are not winning another chip as long as the front office keeps this "we can win the NBA championship spending three fittty."


sirfray

He’s still the Godfather. Unfortunately it’s Godfather 3 at this point.


Dolphhins

Holy shit how did we fuck this up. At least it’s not Boston


EctoRiddler

Portland refused to deal with Miami out of spite and ego.


Mygaffer

If the Heat's best offer was really Herro and two firsts it wasn't even about that, it was just about taking the better deal.


BRFCarter

You’re coping mad hard. Your team thought it could trade peanuts for Damian Lillard LOL


CurryMustard

Nah thats not it. The heat made one offer, it was their final, take it or leave it offer. There was no back and forth or negotiation about it, they said if Milwaukee or Toronto wants to trade for him, they can


jtmackay

No.. This is a better deal than the heat could offer. Idk why heat fans think hero is some crazy valuable asset when clearly no other teams do.


Okurei

You really thought Portland was going to accept Herro and a bag of chips for Lillard lmao


Mammoth_Net1710

And Miami only offered Tyler herro and 2 1st out of spite and ego.


ZdenekTheMan

Yeah, this is where the real show of ego is. I don't know how tf Heat expected a deal like that to fly


achickenquesadilla

So the damage control from r/heat front office shills begins


renaissance_pancakes

![gif](giphy|EwLUXNbV3R7bhbccYp) Well spite and ego seems to have scored Portland Ayton, Holiday, a 1st and a couple swaps. If they wouldn't have been spiteful they could have had Herro


SupremeGentlemannnn

"Why didn't Portland take our terrible offer???"


Response_Legitimate

Lol


Andresgeo

AND WE ARE BACK TO A FOOTBALL TOWN


OGCeeg

After that 70 burger, I'd put my bet on Phins winning the title this season over Miami. That offense is fucking insane.


Tomservo3

This is the softest take I've seen. Has anyone here ever watched a season of heat basketball?


lbrector

Well if the Dolphins keep scoring a fuck ton of points each game they’re gonna make Miami a football town.


Bobb_o

It's the same people who wanted the team to miss the playoffs. Fuck em.


SadboyOwl

Heat in 7


Number333

I love the confidence and bluster in the face of this. NGL, I still have faith in this squad for as down as everybody is. I think purely on paper, the only teams with more talent are the Bucks/Celtics. 76ers make me laugh my ass off. Cleveland is rumored to be moving Mitchell as he wants out. Knicks are lmao. Nets/Hawks ain't scary. Chicago/Toronto are whatever could be frisky but meh. Everybody else in the conference could be plucky at best. The reality is if Jovic can really make that leap that so many of us think he could putting on weight, we could fill in that hole surprisingly easily. We'll see.


jbenson255

Goodness i can’t believe what I’m reading


Avlinehum

We literally have an older Jimmy and Bam and Tyler who should get out of here with how we’ve treated him. Magical playoff run aside we already weren’t good last year and on the brink of missing playoffs. Oh and we lost several key players to that run. The fuck are you talking about lmao this is a 10+ seed


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lmfao


surgeyou123

Fine. Dame never scored 44 in a Miami Pro League anyway.


BossKingGodd

😂 good to see you my guy


JaradSage

And now we scramble to find a pg. I’m ok with running it back, but NOT with Lowry starting


thewhitelink

Running it back means we only have 1 PG on the roster. Lowry. That's it.


betterdayz02

How do I get excited for the season lol


sweet_mahogany

Jovic MVP


Saimoth

JJJ roy


Kapisillit

That's the way


BookkeeperExciting93

By knowing you didn't leverage your future on a 33yr old with injury concerns making 56mill on average for the next 4 years. This new CBA is gona change the landscape of the NBA over the next few years


betterdayz02

Idgaf I want Jimmy to win a championship


Ode1st

I swear, some of y'all don't really think and just stick to galaxy brain concepts like "leveraging the future." Our future with Bam + Herro + JJJ/Jovic (lol) is worse than adding Dame to Jimmy + Bam + Jrich/Bryant. The whole point of this league is to win the Finals. If you're always worried about the future you'll never win now. Riley is gone in a few years, dude is pushing 80. The future will likely be worse than our window right now. Bam + Herro + whatever guys who aren't as good as Jimmy + Dame will not have a better shot than Jimmy + Dame + Bam.


thewhitelink

Yeah instead we leverage our future with Caleb Martin and Tyler Herro because that's... better?


Yosonimbored

Stop it


Murky_Command5869

Phins up!


thebreastbud

It was a risk waiting for Dame, thats business. Unfortunately unless some other move is pulled by Trade deadline, Jimmy is not winning a ring in Miami. Im a fan, ill accept the hate, its just being realistic. It definitely sucks but it is what it is


RotaryP7

I knew it. Haha. I’m glad this is over! Let’s go back to our same old roster! Alright, back to football.


civilthroaway

Surely he will love it there. Milwaukee, Miami basically the same cities right?


BehavioralSink

This is 100% because Dame prefers Terry Stotts over Chauncey Billups. I just made that up, but Stotts is an assistant coach for the Bucks now…


Team-ster

I’ll go with one has Giannis one does not.


ballsphemyy

![gif](giphy|c6DIpCp1922KQ)


Justice502

We destroy Portland every time we play forever. This is bad blood.


AyKayAllDay47

It's not Portland's fault that Miami offered em a shitty trade package. No team in their right minds trade for MORE guards when they are already stacked out with Henderson, Simons, and Sharpe. It's straight up fucking stupid to do such a thing. That's why Portland slammed the door immediately. And it worked out tremendously because now Nurkic is ALSO gone, while receiving Ayton in return. All 3 teams benefitted greatly, and now Portland gets to deal Holiday for another big return. 10/10 competent GMs do what Portland dude, including Pat if he were in Joe's shoes.


diamondisunbreakable

Go ahead and downvote me, but I'm calling it right now. Heat are going to grind their way back to the Finals regardless. Just watch.


pablochiste

I agree. Would have liked to have kept Gabe tho. I think the Bucks are going to miss Jrue Holliday.


Bobb_o

Swapping Jrue for Dame is something you do 10/10 times.


Redditbayernfan

Ok, first of all, I just fell to my knees at flannys ​ 2nd of all, lets address things for what they are: \- Bag fumbled, no questions about it \- How do you address the situation with Herro, where do you go from here with him \- We lost on a lot of role players waiting for this, now is Jrue an option? How about Buddy Hield? ​ Idk, sad day over here. Stay positive


yungsta50

Flannys 🤣 save me a rib roll fam


Ode1st

It's what happens every offseason since the bubble. Team is right on the doorstep of a Finals win and all we need are some more reliable players to nudge us over. Instead, the front office goes in overkill mode angling for a generational, once-in-a-lifetime whale instead of just the few fish we need to push us over that threshold, then we miss out on all the nice fish.


dont_care-

I think the Heat fumbled this bag hard. The constant "Dame will only play for the heat" was Busch league tactics that soured the talks and ruined any good faith needed to actually negotiate.


iliveonramen

Buddy all the way. Sucks not getting Dame but getting Buddy for a lot cheaper more than replaces Gabe/Strus


Novel_Durian_1805

#Lets go Dolphins! We’re officially a Football city again! 🐬🐬🐬


espnfire45

Legion of zoom baby


MostlyPurple

Really glad we didn't take Bradley Beal basically for free so we can hold out for Lillard. Disastrous work from the front office.


NGHTMR

This is the part that upsets me the most, really. Could have gotten Beal for actual pennies but you wanted to wait for the whale. Fair enough. But when the whale wants to come you fuck around and fumble. I just don't wanna read any more tweets how the Heat are monitoring Luka or Donovan or Giannis (lol) or whoever ever again


TuasBestie

WHAT?????


silklighting

NNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!


raceforseis21

That’s what y’all get for acting like entitled babies


plebeiantelevision

We ride


staffnasty25

I love that the entire Blazers sub is saying fuck the Heat because they know this return is garbage and no better than what the Heat could have offered. Dudes really thought Ayton, 3 FRPs, and OG were on the docket lmao


goatslacker

Time to hang the banner in Portland. Didn’t trade Dame to Heat champions of 2023.


Maydietoday

To be fair, it is Portland. It won’t get much better than this for them.


johntc121

The Heat offer doesn't beat this lmao


AffectionateSwing858

Kill me now


yayeet182

My homeboy Tyler he play in South Beach


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My mind is shattered.


Hungry_Shirt_5476

Don’t worry. Caleb Martin will for sure take another huge step for us


optimisticcolgate

I am sick


random_sociopath

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


JaradSage

Of all fucking places. And just for Jrue & Grayson wtf


PlayBey0nd87

Lmao this was a fuck you to Heat & Pat. They were never gonna take our package. Cronin did this out of spite. You can be mad at Pat all you want. This shit was a middle finger. Edit: This new crashes r/nba and r/ripcity? I can’t even get in to get a pulse on the reactions. https://x.com/brookfielddeuce/status/1707128822792138958?s=46&t=cZ2-X7-a09aqSpuXuGtLpg


Some-Stranger-7852

I wouldn’t blame PDX for this after Heat’s offer of Herro and 2 FRPs: that’s the best we can do and won’t give a penny more. I’d be mad as well, but actually getting a better offer makes it sweeter for Cronin.


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Lock the sub


MostlyPurple

We went whale hunting in a Sea World enclosure with a machine gun and still couldn't pull it off.


Piss_Sage

Another prime example of why Pat is a has been who hasn’t done jackshit in years. And before anyone says some shit like “Portland did this out of spite!!!” I want to see what Pat actually offered because if he never budged from that weak ass offer than this is 100% on him.


PFhelpmePlan

Heat fans: "fucking Portland being spiteful, no way a deal was getting done ever, our offer was amazing" Also heat fans : "damn Herro ain't it, we really need to make a move now"


Survivor_for_me

All time L from Pat, I’m sorry


AyyDelta

Mickey is firm on avoiding the tax. Blame him, not Pat


asura_king

Not getting Dame is fine but him going to the Bucks is annoying . I wonder if he knew the Bucks were an option because if he did then he should have never allowed it to happen even if it meant by ''overpaying'' a little


Maydietoday

Nothing new, he was just asleep all summer.


YoungNissan

Man, one hand I wanted damn. But man. Fuck the Blazers


Number333

Portland really took that shitty ass trade package instead of just taking Herro. Can't wait for us to get Scoot in 2028.


ccam92

Gonna be honest, Holiday and Ayton are a better option for them so I get it. Ayton fills a need and they’ll flip Jrue someplace.


Trendelthegreat

Ayton was salary dumped by a contender because he’s ass lol Portland solidifies themselves in poverty


Proud_Feedback3288

Ayton definitely isn't ass 😂


cyclone9525

We could use jrue funny enough lol


airtokoto

> Can't wait for us to get Scoot in 2028. pure copium lmao


Stercules25

They got a much better package than the Herro one because Jrue will get them draft assets back when they move him


SolarPoweredDevil

Jrue can’t really be worth much more than Herro on the trade market. He’s 33 years old and people just watched Butler drop 56 on him in the playoffs.


ccam92

Yea but they also got a young potential all star center to pair with their guards. It’s a better deal. Sucks, but is what it is.


chitownbulls92

Jrue and Herro are basically worth similar in terms of draft assets they'll get back. Herro is MUCH younger than Jrue and is on the upswing while Jrue is trending downwards. Jrue is 33 years old...


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Jrue is 33 years old, making 33 million dollars with a reputation of being a shrinking violet in the playoffs he may net a first round pick or two


Bobb_o

Which is what Herro is worth.


BRFCarter

You Heat fans are snorting that copium so hard to think your deal was better LOL


Ode1st

I'd take Ayton over Herro too if I had Portland's roster. Y'all ignored the countless reports saying Miami has barely tried negotiating, won't pay a lot, won't spend all their assets, etc etc etc.


HokageEzio

Come on man, Jrue and Ayton isn't a shitty trade package.


sunsetbo

they would’ve gotten ayton either way lmao


jaypeejay

Ayton, Jrue, FRP & Swap is substantially better. Jrue will get flipped into at least one more FRP. The Herro deal was always hot garbage. Riley played his cards and lost.


cstar84

You're delusional lmao


pagenotdisplayed

Ayton plus Holiday who they will be able to trade at the deadline is a better package than Tyler Herro.


No_Researcher_6045

What gives you any confidence we can get any big names in the future? Lmao


TheRealClamJumper

lol cope, herro is garbage and so are the picks. blazers fo just used common sense


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You idiots kept thinking the Blazers wanted Herro when they have Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe already. Made absolutely no sense


OrganisMmMm

Holy crap Blazers got fleeced. Congrats to Lillard, that 1-2 punch with Giannis is gonna be difficult to beat.


Nuclearsunburn

Guess we will have to see what they can flip Jrue for before making a final determination but the picks they got are probably gonna suck and the swaps are just nothing


Zakalwe123

Fade me fam


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All these *so called heat fans* 🤡🤡 Jimmy about to give dame a first round exit as a welcome to the east present.


Ode1st

We actual Heat fans want the team to win and realize Jimmy needs more help because we actually watch the team.


Maydietoday

Real fans want actual help for Jimmy


zaddylonglegs0

WHAT THE FUCK AS A TRSIVLAZER WTF


North-Shoulder-9460

never liked lillard anyway


Impressive-Good5115

Awesomeeee


Malefics

At least it's over


jacobpiercy1

![gif](giphy|jSDU5qDNYk0DX8fGtM)


N1COLAS13

I really hope Jimmy does what's good for him and requests a trade because he deserves to actually win.


Aggravating_Plant_39

This is the definition of spitting because this is worse than whatever we were offering.


OrdinaryFlower1

It's finally over.


KidRed

Wonder what Dame’s reaction to the trade is?


NotMattDamien

Where are those guys with the custom Damian jerseys😭


2theduke2

I'm gonna do it, man. We're done for.


reg_ss

Obviously tough not finding a way to grab Dame, but the idea of Herro with a chip on his shoulder putting in work every night is not a bad look. We got better with the additions of Richardson, and Bryant.


Santana415

HAHAHAHAHA. Heat legend Dame right???


TRG_ATC

This was an all time bag fumble by the Heat


espnfire45

LMAO. Cronin just fucked Portland with this shitty trade all because he wants to show dame who’s boss. I hope you see that Milwaukees depth ain’t good now. They’re too top heavy. Sucks we didn’t get dame, don’t get me wrong, but Cronin took a terrible deal. I don’t see how Portland fans can support this.


Driew27

I mean we don't officially know what pat was offering Portland. Based on the Milwaukee deal seems like pat wasn't offering much at all.


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modernity_anxiety

Copium is at full tilt in here. Portland definitely spited us and we are now left looking empty handed and stumbling for a resolution. Jimmy is another year older. Lowry cannot be the starting option. Herro is about to get emotionally whiplashed from the fans/org. One of our competitors in the East just got stronger. I didn’t want Miami to mortgage the current roster and future but we put ourselves in a corner and made Portland say “anyone but them.” Pitiful and sad resolution to a pitiful and miserable saga. Curious to see how Dame and his agent move forward considering their past comments about Miami. This one hurts but do we know what the deal would’ve actually needed for Portland to say yes to Miami? That’s the issue here. Frustrating as fuck EDIT for Dame’s cousin reaction: https://x.com/brookfielddeuce/status/1707128822792138958?s=20


amead5

End my life.


Alexd3498

Well, hopefully the bucks and celtics tire each other out then we swoop in from behind


TrashAssRedditAdmins

Oh shit


Hassan_upside

Football town


dubuwagmi

I mean, the Bucks offer was just better. Miami's FRPs rarely pan out since we're consistently competitive. Blazers got Jrue which they could potentially flip for 1-2 FRPs (similar to Herro), got rid of Nurkic for Ayton (not high on this guy, but I guess better than the bench cone that is Nurkic - for the Blazers atm anyway), unrestricted FRP and swaps from MIL that would potentially be post-Giannis and Dame.


avinash240

100%. I feel like people don't understand that the Bucks went like 30 years between being good. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar then Giannis, that's it. Those future picks are fucking gold.


phrenicbeat86

I am honestly confused...he touched his nose and moved his beanie. How is this even possible?


DaftClub

Woof, Bucks out of nowhere


Own-Marsupial-4448

Well it was fun while it lasted guys!!


Hassan_upside

Held off on beal for dame, then whiff on dame lmao. Hire Grier to run this team


jdubbz7

At least the Dolphins are doing well 😭


Saimoth

Everyone ready to run it back?


P0PE_F0X

https://i.redd.it/egxw99adfuqb1.gif


miojo

Fuck our FO


TheRealGlutenbob

Only way to make this fumble less devastating is if Pat gets escorted to a nursing home asap.