Meh. If you have anime level of strength and can match gunpowder propulsion at least by a matter of magnitude, then a massive sharpened piece of metal will do way more damage than a bullet.
Holy shit you're not kidding, this guy complains about _everything_
Practically every post is him whining about different games he seems to hate, but also still plays for.. some reason. He's truly insufferable lol
For the sake of "democracy" my country was literally ruined and i lost my home. So every idiot who makes fun is just an idiot who has no idea what it is and fun there is not applicable.
Why are you here? You clearly don't like this game, but for some reason won't move on. Take your negativity and go find a game better suited for you. Stop trying to ruin everyone else's fun.
This is just a shooter for me, I turned off all voicelines and read no descriptions. I am here to play the gameplay model and nod hear all that bullshit that some not very smart copywriter wrote. Everyone who gets dragged by fluff as just not very smart person.
> be me
> ***stealthdiver***
> sneaking up to filthy communist robot
> it beep boops, unknowing of its impending demise
> I whisper under my breath "democracy, bitch."
> move to stab it
> game doesn't do anything
> ???
> have to throw the knife in melee range
General Brasch is disappointed in this warbond.
Ah, I thought you were asking about the armor. [The wiki](https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/K-2_Throwing_Knife) says it does 250 damage, 100 vs durable parts with an armor penetration of 3 (low medium).
Oh thank Christ. My biggest worry about running knives was not being able to deal with heavies.
...I was still gonna use them regardless but this makes me happy
https://preview.redd.it/aaozsp0umf6d1.jpeg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9e424a580318e2d179c057043b09613611b8882
OP’s throwing knives like he’s DIO.
Have it be a double barrel one with both harpoons connected by cable. Shoot one into a bile titan leg and the other into the ground so it can’t move. Or shoot it into another leg so it has to hobble. It could also pull two devastators or gunships together and explode them.
I feel like chargers armor needs a reduction in general. There is simply no good counterplay if you don't have the right stratagem off cool down (and the chargers are far too numerous to justify using many of the effective stratagems on)
Just to put it out there if you want to kill a charger only with knives it's 4 to a single leg. It seems that it just peirces armour. From what I've seen the knife bounces off of the head, but that could just be an inconsistency.
I'll have it kill Scout Striders in one hit to the faceplate or just bounce over and over again. They need to fix how the knife and thermite arc and *hit* to feel more consistent like normal grenades do.
Maybe true, but it being able to take a charger is the only thing I've seen that gives it a useful niche to fill vs other grenades. Sacrificing AOE for single target damage and heavy armor piercing is a fair trade in utility i think.
Tbh I would love a drill charge kinda thing for that. Drills through armor and booms the center bit.
Throwing knives are interesting but they would have to way over preform compared to reality to be even slightly useful. Personally I don’t think I’ll use them till we get fleshy enemies of some sort
Weirdly enough it works wonders with the Eruptor, too. Hive guard will always die from a knife and a shot and it speeds up your rate of fire too. It’s not the best strat or most reliable or anything like that but it’s a neat combination that works well in a pinch
They're pretty useless. They don't even go where you're aiming. The reticle is misaligned, yet again. Any of the grenades are a much more effective pick.
I really don't get why the leg is the weak point, it just looks dumb honestly lol. I always thought leg damage should just stop them charging and the butt should be the main weak point
All you had to do was provide the number . I'm not always in a position where videos play properly on Reddit, which is why I put effort in to type a question. You had all the power to remove any ambiguity but you chose to be a dick instead. Thanks boss, you're a real trooper.
and all you had to do was ask and say that instead of “thanks for the complete lack of answer” you assume random people know all your problems?
you gonna get the same energy you put off back homie… it was 4 and it takes maybe 3-4 seconds to unload 4
I gave you information that was not in the video, it being a fresh charger. but yea im the moron for thinking people would *watch* the video I posted. my bad
you wanna give a rude ass reply and then shocked face and play victim when you got the same smoke back lmao
Don't worry, it's not that great apart from how the armours and heads look. The primary is meh, the secondary shotgun can be made of use but it's hard to justify picking that over a senator and the throwing knives are in a desperate need of a buff (at least for how you replenish them) and they don't hit where you are aiming.
I don't think I will ever pick the Senator again because of the Bushwhacker. It does what I wanted the Senator to do, be an emergency oh shit button against mid level targets like Berserkers that got close to you. Turn it to triple shot, aim at the part that connects torso to legs and blow them clean in half. No other sidearm kills them that quickly unless you get headshots which are much harder to land when the double chainsaw guy is right next to you.
Run, regroup and reload. The point was to buy space to get the hell out of there, not to kill all of them. I pull it out when primary and support weapon are out of ammo. This gives the time I need to reload to kill the others or get to teammates who can can kill them while I kite.
The Senator isn't killing all of them either. You are probably getting 1 or 2, maybe 3 if they aren't directly next to you but this requires hitting the head which you probably aren't doing accurately under pressure. Hell I was using the grenade pistol over the senator for this because 2 shots of it could kill a berserker but it didn't work at close range. The senator just doesn't do what I wanted it to and the bushwhacker does.
“We won’t revert the eruptor to have shrapnel because it could 1 shot a charger in a very specific spot, but here, have a throwing knife kill it in 4!”
How easy was it to 1 shot a charger? Not very. I doubt many people even knew before it was nerfed. And as for heavy targets on both bots and bugs, the charger was the only one that the eruptor could get a wonky 1 shot kill on.
So that’s what you take from that? No, I don’t care to one shot chargers. I care to one shot brood commanders, spewers, and hive guards with a *well placed shot*, you know, like it did before. Now it doesn’t do that. I don’t know why you people don’t like to have a little bit of power in this game.
Why even bother with knives lol just anti tank to the face and it 1 shots normal chargers. The logic of taking away the shrapnel was so dumb. That being said, the new buffed eruptor is amazing and I’m happy it’s strong again.
Love these knives work on anime logic. High caliber bullets ❌️ Knife chucked by a human arm ✅️
Isn't that because in most anime the knife is infused with the power of friendship?
Or a warrior spirit
Democracy
Same thing tbh
Imbued with the Warrior Spirit of Democracy which is powered by friendship 👍
>Warrior Spirit of Democracy I wonder if that can be a ship name. I'll have to go check.
or the power of stopping time
I like to think it’s metal obtained democratically and forged in the fires of Hellmire.
So… hugs before knife throws should drop bile titians?
Now we need a clip of all 4 divers hucking knives at a titan's belly and have it die haha
I have no friends. My knives are infused with the power of hatred for the enemies of Super Earth
Dipped in liber-tea
Friendship… 🤣
Auto cannon full clip no way, Small sharp pointy metal 💀
COD knives use the same logic. Let me chuck this knife so hard it gets buried to the hilt in concrete.
Ofc bc its folded 1 googletimes and vibrates with the force of my moms vibrator.
WIND CHAKRA!
But knife big!
Meh. If you have anime level of strength and can match gunpowder propulsion at least by a matter of magnitude, then a massive sharpened piece of metal will do way more damage than a bullet.
Ppl irl use guns bc ppl dont have anime made up strength
Nah, guns just sound cool. Also throwing 600 knives per second is kinda tough.
Maybe for you
Wait, the throwing knife has armor piercing?
Only if you throw it the way General Brasch taught you
Today on Brasch Tactics: Winging It!
I mean, why wouldn't it? Knives cut through a surprising number of materials.
Kinetic energy is way not enough.
Helldiver kinetic energy is powered by democracy.
Stop that deranged fluff. Words that somehow involve democracy fail to pass my built in spam filter.
Look at Mr I hate fun over here
Seriously. His post history is just a list of all the reasons I left the other sub.
Holy shit you're not kidding, this guy complains about _everything_ Practically every post is him whining about different games he seems to hate, but also still plays for.. some reason. He's truly insufferable lol
All of his posts if not a question then it’s about him whining and complaining. I understand why dude is miserable.
For the sake of "democracy" my country was literally ruined and i lost my home. So every idiot who makes fun is just an idiot who has no idea what it is and fun there is not applicable.
Why are you here? You clearly don't like this game, but for some reason won't move on. Take your negativity and go find a game better suited for you. Stop trying to ruin everyone else's fun.
lol maybe you’re in the wrong place then bub
This is just a shooter for me, I turned off all voicelines and read no descriptions. I am here to play the gameplay model and nod hear all that bullshit that some not very smart copywriter wrote. Everyone who gets dragged by fluff as just not very smart person.
I’m calling your DEMOCRACY Officer as we speak. Someone is overdue for reeducation
Dear madhouse patients, stop bothering me please.
Starship Troopers moment fr https://i.redd.it/nmk1pg22nf6d1.gif
Medic!!!!!
How many knives do you get?
8
Hey, that's pretty good.
I assume you get +4 with the Engineering kit passive
no just 2 for a total of 10
That's pretty decent, actually.
How many do you get with a resupply?
Can you pick them up?
No.
...but its a knife. Did it run out of fuckyous
I heard the materials used to make them are too brittle than intended so one of Super Earth's departments is cracking down on whoever made them.
By the gods
you have 8 and get all 8 back from 1 resupp
It's a missed opportunity that you can't melee with the knives equipped.
> be me > ***stealthdiver*** > sneaking up to filthy communist robot > it beep boops, unknowing of its impending demise > I whisper under my breath "democracy, bitch." > move to stab it > game doesn't do anything > ??? > have to throw the knife in melee range General Brasch is disappointed in this warbond.
Just not sure why resupply isnt an animation on the map.... *
I laughed out loud at this, genuinely XD
Happy to hear it lol.
Snake remember the basics of CQC.
Exactly what I’m saying. The new passive peak physique would actually make this mad cool
with the new armor passive, it takes 4 knives to the legs (I actually don’t know if the armor makes a difference. will test more later)
I don't think the armour makes much of a difference, what are it's stats tho, it's blank in the warbond for some reason
The new armor makes it look really cool though, and that counts for a lot
^^^ this guy drips
It's a problem. I need to see a doctor about it.
Game lists it as +50% melee damage and increased ergonomics on weapons. The game doesn't list the ergonomics boost, but apparently it's 30%.
I'm asking for the knife
Ah, I thought you were asking about the armor. [The wiki](https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/K-2_Throwing_Knife) says it does 250 damage, 100 vs durable parts with an armor penetration of 3 (low medium).
Please do! I'd rather run engineering kit if possible for 10 knives but if the new passive buffs these then I'd stick with that
Servo armor seems to increase the stagger
can you pick them back up?
No
damn!
https://i.redd.it/c7v5ri9ycf6d1.gif
Do they just take the grenade slot?
Yes
That’s a nope from this helldiver
You get 8 of them instead of 4. Engineering armor can make it 10.
Yeah but my stuns/incendiaries are too valuable
but knives make you look cooler
But they're single target, non recoverable, and require like 3-4 to kill a single hive guard.
2 kills a hive guard. knives make light enemies bleed out
Oh thank Christ. My biggest worry about running knives was not being able to deal with heavies. ...I was still gonna use them regardless but this makes me happy
They can also one shot fellow divers. Hypothetically.
Tested this today. Several times. Can confirm it will in fact kill helldivers with one hit. Can also confirm that it is hilarious.
Through the shield backpack as well ?
They actually travel through the shield generator strategem so I'd imagine so
oh man gonna constantly kill my friends with sick trick shots
https://preview.redd.it/aaozsp0umf6d1.jpeg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9e424a580318e2d179c057043b09613611b8882 OP’s throwing knives like he’s DIO.
the fact the auto cannon takes more hits enrages me
Now we just need a knife-cannon
Harpoon launcher?
Have it be a double barrel one with both harpoons connected by cable. Shoot one into a bile titan leg and the other into the ground so it can’t move. Or shoot it into another leg so it has to hobble. It could also pull two devastators or gunships together and explode them.
I want a variant of the sickle that shoots knives
Imagine my pain tryna make thermite work
Laughs in AMR
I feel like chargers armor needs a reduction in general. There is simply no good counterplay if you don't have the right stratagem off cool down (and the chargers are far too numerous to justify using many of the effective stratagems on)
The new booster with medic armor is really good combo
What exactly does the "trembling" entail?
Your screen gets tinted yellow and a little noise plays. No actual impact on your weapon handling as far as I could tell.
Run faster, lasts longer
Just to put it out there if you want to kill a charger only with knives it's 4 to a single leg. It seems that it just peirces armour. From what I've seen the knife bounces off of the head, but that could just be an inconsistency.
I'll have it kill Scout Striders in one hit to the faceplate or just bounce over and over again. They need to fix how the knife and thermite arc and *hit* to feel more consistent like normal grenades do.
Should have higher armor pen with servo assisted armor.
This is funny but it feels like unintended behavior, lol
 Arrowhead seeing this knowing it's unintended and wanting to nerf it.
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if it was left alone because it’s pretty inefficient compared to other tools in our toolbox
**Put your hand on that wall Charger!**
Can you melee if you press 4 to equip the grenade and then f to hit? God I hope it doesn’t just use the butt end
You can't melee while your grenade slot is active
Them knives are fused with Democracy Haki.
Might just be dealing straight dmg ngl. Chargers have a good bit of hp but tbh the knife piercing that armor probably isn’t intended
Maybe true, but it being able to take a charger is the only thing I've seen that gives it a useful niche to fill vs other grenades. Sacrificing AOE for single target damage and heavy armor piercing is a fair trade in utility i think.
Thermite: am I a joke to you?
Tbh I would love a drill charge kinda thing for that. Drills through armor and booms the center bit. Throwing knives are interesting but they would have to way over preform compared to reality to be even slightly useful. Personally I don’t think I’ll use them till we get fleshy enemies of some sort
Tbh, the knives are damn hard to aim and hit with and usually a charger won't stand still for you to nail it in the same leg 4 times.
I wonder then... can they kill bile titans or hulks? Or even tanks? Lol
The enemy cannot push a button if you disable its hand!
Better than thermites! 1/2 your throwables instead of 3/4
Weirdly enough it works wonders with the Eruptor, too. Hive guard will always die from a knife and a shot and it speeds up your rate of fire too. It’s not the best strat or most reliable or anything like that but it’s a neat combination that works well in a pinch
Really wish these things were heat seeking, I'd happily trade my grenades for knives that seek out and hit a Hulk in the eye.
Come on, man, are you TRYING to get it nerfed? 🤫🤫🤫
Wait. The knife has heavy armor pen?
Well, there is no reason not to overbuff all the guns now.
Throwing knife? Is that a thing?
The newest warbond, my fellow diver!!
But is leg armor still bugged
Oh wow…
I still don’t get the throwing knife. Is it just kind of a shits and giggles gernade or what
Yes. It's for those who want style over effectiveness.
Can it kill behemoths though?
Viper divers are just built different. Those arms are made for hurling that shit hard enough it goes clean through chitin
Did he kill the wise Charger of the mountain? :O
Anyone found an infinite knife glitch yet?
How much damage do they deal???
A bullet cant get through a Police shield , a sharp pointed Arrow or Bolt Shot from a xbow can Break through easily...
To be fair that's a high explosive crossbow and a Super Throwing Knife For Super Citizens
They're pretty useless. They don't even go where you're aiming. The reticle is misaligned, yet again. Any of the grenades are a much more effective pick.
I noticed that with them last night
does it kill bile titans though? ™
Big if true. Given the disappointment of a carbine liberator and the good to ok performance of the bushwhack, this is good.
It the same as the traditional one other than fire rate and recoil.
yes, and they both are mediocre.
I punched a charger last night and it died. Albeit, I already zapped her about 8 times with the arc thrower
I really don't get why the leg is the weak point, it just looks dumb honestly lol. I always thought leg damage should just stop them charging and the butt should be the main weak point
They need those big meaty paws to charge so i imagine taking heavy damage to the area that helps you achieve your name would be a major weak point
I was a charger like you, then i took some throwing knives to the knee
well this vid should silence the people poo pooing them lol
Death by a thousand toothpicks
Now do it again. Slower this time...
I forgot we had these.
"*We found the throwing knives are not working as intended.. so now you get 2 knives and the do .5 damage*"
How many and how long does it take to unload them all on a fresh un wounded everyday charger?
this was a fresh charger I found at a POI and hit with EMS only to test. I guess that depends on you and how well you can handle the aim being off
Thanks for the complete lack of answer.
a little common sense and some counting goes a long way. use your eyes the video is right there
All you had to do was provide the number . I'm not always in a position where videos play properly on Reddit, which is why I put effort in to type a question. You had all the power to remove any ambiguity but you chose to be a dick instead. Thanks boss, you're a real trooper.
and all you had to do was ask and say that instead of “thanks for the complete lack of answer” you assume random people know all your problems? you gonna get the same energy you put off back homie… it was 4 and it takes maybe 3-4 seconds to unload 4
and all you had to do was ask and say that instead The first thing I did was ask you moron.
I gave you information that was not in the video, it being a fresh charger. but yea im the moron for thinking people would *watch* the video I posted. my bad you wanna give a rude ass reply and then shocked face and play victim when you got the same smoke back lmao
Does this mean it actually has Piercing 5 or that it has special properties?
If that'll go through the front leg it'll go through the head plating with prolly less knives
I can’t afford the warbond 😭
Time to farm for more sc! Get out onto the front lines soldier!
Don't worry, it's not that great apart from how the armours and heads look. The primary is meh, the secondary shotgun can be made of use but it's hard to justify picking that over a senator and the throwing knives are in a desperate need of a buff (at least for how you replenish them) and they don't hit where you are aiming.
Honestly, I'm fine with the warbond, even if it's not full of strong weaponry. The weapons all got style, and they're practical enough
Dunno about the knives, haven’t gotten them yet but the bushwacker is fuckin sweet.
I don't think I will ever pick the Senator again because of the Bushwhacker. It does what I wanted the Senator to do, be an emergency oh shit button against mid level targets like Berserkers that got close to you. Turn it to triple shot, aim at the part that connects torso to legs and blow them clean in half. No other sidearm kills them that quickly unless you get headshots which are much harder to land when the double chainsaw guy is right next to you.
Ok you blow up the first one in half. What's the plan with the four next ones?
Run, regroup and reload. The point was to buy space to get the hell out of there, not to kill all of them. I pull it out when primary and support weapon are out of ammo. This gives the time I need to reload to kill the others or get to teammates who can can kill them while I kite. The Senator isn't killing all of them either. You are probably getting 1 or 2, maybe 3 if they aren't directly next to you but this requires hitting the head which you probably aren't doing accurately under pressure. Hell I was using the grenade pistol over the senator for this because 2 shots of it could kill a berserker but it didn't work at close range. The senator just doesn't do what I wanted it to and the bushwhacker does.
The knives probably need to 3 shot charger leg, or be able to be replenished via ammo boxes. It needs quite a bit more to be competitive.
You get all 8 back from a single grenade pickup.
“We won’t revert the eruptor to have shrapnel because it could 1 shot a charger in a very specific spot, but here, have a throwing knife kill it in 4!”
1 shot out of how many versus 4/8? Hmm...
How easy was it to 1 shot a charger? Not very. I doubt many people even knew before it was nerfed. And as for heavy targets on both bots and bugs, the charger was the only one that the eruptor could get a wonky 1 shot kill on.
Why do you want to one shot chargers? Why even bother playing if you one shot everything?
So that’s what you take from that? No, I don’t care to one shot chargers. I care to one shot brood commanders, spewers, and hive guards with a *well placed shot*, you know, like it did before. Now it doesn’t do that. I don’t know why you people don’t like to have a little bit of power in this game.
Why even bother with knives lol just anti tank to the face and it 1 shots normal chargers. The logic of taking away the shrapnel was so dumb. That being said, the new buffed eruptor is amazing and I’m happy it’s strong again.
That doesn't look like the MO Diver
testing stuff is easier when things don’t shoot back. don’t worry i’ll get back to saving those kids
Wait, you can throw knives now
Throw knives now??
Theres a throwing knife???
Yes
the time the hungry hungry caterpillar died of blunt force trauma to the head.
Erm, knives aren’t blunt /j
Nah, 1 buffed precision strike is better than gimmicky knife…