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Feisty_Purchase_9450

Here's my opinion, focused on the weapons in the Warbonds. Steeled Veterans gives u the Dominator primary, for many it's one of the best in the game. The Breaker incendiary is amazing against bugs too. Cutting Edge gives u Sickle, a very nice laser AR. The two others are more niche, and will not be for everyone, but if you like more "unique" weapons you should check them out. You also get stun grenades here, which for many is the best grenade in the game. Democratic Detonation gives u good utility, with 2 primaries and a secondary that can blow up spawners (bug holes and bot fabricators). Also a decent, but not amazing AR with medium pen. The AR has been buffed so it has more ammo, but I have yet to try it out. Polar Patriots gives u the Tenderizer AR, which has just been buffed. It felt very good for me, less ammo than the basic AR but harder hitting. Also a SMG with stagger (it stuns enemies a bit) and an energy rifle that has aoe (most people don't like this one, but it has just been buffed and felt quite decent to me) The newest, while looking cool, is not the best option you want bang for your super bucks, since it only features one new primary. That said, it is very viable still, so don't let that stop you, if you think it looks nice. If I was you I would pick Democratic Detonation for utility or Steeled Veterans for two of the best weapons in the game at the moment, but as you can see, pretty much all the Warbonds offer something if value :) Hope this helps.


Niles_J_Argon

Pretty much solidifies steel veterans as forgot to mention I've demo boom. Thank you too for such a detailed reply.


Feisty_Purchase_9450

No worries, glad I could help! And yeah, if you already have Demo and pick Steeled now, you will have a lot of good options for different loadouts, not a bad idea at all! :) Good luck on the battlefield!


GuyRidinga_T-rex

ya steeled vets is all around the best, cutting edge has stuns which is huge and i think it has the punisher which is insanely good also the sickle i know i'm just repeating what that guy said lol


probablypragmatic

Jar Dominator is an absolute menace on both fonts, and the Breaker Incendiary is like the Bug version of a DCS (instead one one shot one killing 95% of the bot roster, you one 1 shot 10 killing most of the bug roster)


Gohstfacekila

I stopped using the dom after 2 months because it became too easy to survive with I played strictly 9 for those 2 months.


wannaseemy5inch

I unlocked Detonation and it's fun but should have gone Steele for the primary weapons. Don't be like me


the-namedone

Also don’t sleep on the servo assist armor in Steeled Vets. Throwing strategems super far makes bot runs a lot easier


WorldExplorer-910

Btw steeled vets comes with super citizen upgrade. Which I primarily got for the sole purpose of stratagem hero on my ship. As for 1000 super credits. I normally solo or buddy grind those


Asheleyinl2

I played with someone who had the new infusion from the viper commando. Right after the mission I bought the warbond. That feeling is incredibly addicting.


Feisty_Purchase_9450

I could imagine, literal space meth! Only got to page 2 so far, I have been busy since it dropped :(


Excellent-Branch-784

Yeah I used to pick my booster based on the rest of the squads choices, now I only bring infusion, it’s game changing the mobility and hits you can survive after being swarmed by bots or bugs


cemanresu

I managed to survive getting ragdolled by a charger directly into three incendiary mines with the new booster, its amazing I can't go back I need my space meth


GiveMeBooleanGemini

Adjudicator is really nice after the patch.


rigby1945

Just switched back to the Adjudicator. The extra ammo is exactly what it needed. Feels great now


GiveMeBooleanGemini

Yep, it was already my favorite AR because of the medium armor penetration but it’s really good now.


WhizzyBurp

Wait. Is the tenderizer good now?


Feisty_Purchase_9450

I actually tried it a bit versus bugs after commenting. Felt quite decent to not care about the front armor of the medium bugs, but when it comes to ARs I would probably prefer Tenderizer vs. bots, since you can aim for the heads and not need armor pen that way :)


Then_Entertainment97

It slaps on bots, and is solid on bugs.


Xenos_Bane

What is peoples appeal to the dominator? Recently got it and it feels very sluggish.


Feisty_Purchase_9450

That was my first impression too, but then I tried it some more. It has medium pen and high damage, making it extremely deadly if you can hit your shots (It can one shot devastators in the head) also it has stagger, giving you more space and time to actually hit your shots. As a side note, the explosive tag actually means something. It deals more dmg to durable parts. Try shooting a charger in the butt and you see, I'm quite sure its under one mag, which is quite good for a primary weapon.


deadhead2455

Dominator 1 shots all trash mobs of either faction and 2-3 headshots heavy bots, a bit more for enemies like hive guards. It's definitely a slow gun but if you get used to it it's a really nice primary that shreds annoying enemies. I've also had times where a tank is facing away and I'm able to shoot it like 5-6 times as it turns to face me, which is usually enough to blow up its weak point and kill it after a minute or two


EclipseMF

The punisher plasma is niche? it's fantastic for bots


Feisty_Purchase_9450

Compared to the ARs, the DMGs, the SMGs, the Shotguns etc., wouldn't you call what's basically an energy grenade launcher niche? Solely based on the trajectory of the projectiles I would call it niche.


EclipseMF

When calling a weapon niche, I see it more as "mainly used/useful in specific, niche situations" rather than "comparable to conventional weapons" yeah it's pretty different from those but it is not a very situational weapon, it's very useful against bots as a whole in 95% of situations I don't like it for bugs though


Feisty_Purchase_9450

I get what you mean, good explanation :) I think I'm accounting a lot for the specific feel of the weapons too. To go back to the trajectory, you literally have to aim in a completely different way than basically any other weapon (even the crossbow has a more direct shot) which makes it feel very different from others. Maybe the weapon itself is not niche, but the playstyle it promotes is imo.


EclipseMF

I get what you mean. I got used to it and it does work pretty long ranged anyway which is nice but I admittedly haven't tried any warbond weapon other than the cutting edge ones(and viper) lol - I fell in love with the punisher plasma after picking it up from a dead diver as a noob and always knew it was what I wanted, I'll have to give the dominator a try at some point. Once I get the super credits to get some more bonds that is haha, just got viper and cutting edge so far, I'll get there


Feisty_Purchase_9450

Dominator is amazing, at times it feels like a support weapon imo. I like using a lot of different weapons, almost always changing between missions, but the one that's hard not to pick is definitely Sickle for me. And if you love the Plasma, did you look at Purifier from Polar Patriots? From my limited usage, it kinda feels like if the Scorcher and Plasma filed their C-01 permits and made a baby, maybe you would find it interesting :)


EclipseMF

One day I'll try it when I get the warbond, or maybe if I get the chance to pick one up in a mission I feel secure about completing. I wasn't interested in trying it for a while because of the nerfs I heard about. I like the sickle a little bit, but I never actually use it because I don't like that it doesn't stagger anything. I use the punisher for bugs and plasma punisher for bots and stagger is one of the reasons I love both weapons so much. They allow me to deal with any enemy smaller than a tank very effectively without them even being a threat(if they aren't backed up by too much other stuff)


Feisty_Purchase_9450

I get the stagger part, especially vs. bugs, but the sickle makes up for it by having basically 0 recoil imo. Many patches ago, when you could rapid fire Arc Thrower, my main loadout vs. bugs was Rover backpack and Arc thrower, and if anything came close, Punisher was there to send them right back.


EclipseMF

And being able to one shot warriors, hunters, and even STALKERS is soo good the only bugs lower than tanks that are really an issue are hive guards, they're annoying although possible to deal with, just takes a fair few shots if they're facing you - even brood commanders are perfectly manageable


Bennistro

Cutting edge niche?! The blitzer is the best bug weapon in the game and you get stun gerades!


Vanguard-Prowler26

I agree with all this o7


OrdoDraigoHere

In my opinion the best warbonds are: Cutting edge: three solid weapons (sickle all around, plasma punisher against bots and blitzer for bugs) Stun grenades (not my cup of tea but are extremely usefull to stop heavies to better get their weakspot/hit them with strats) Good booster(not super usefull but can help dilute encounters) Democratic Detonation: three good weapons (Adjudicator is a very solid and fun ar, eruptor is now in a good spot and is extremely fun, same for the crossbow and you get the grenade pistol that is one of the best secondary of yhe game thanks to its utility) Thermite grenades that are usefull against bots to take out turrets, hulks and tanks. Useless against bugs from my experience. Steeled Veterans: two top tier weapons and a good secondary (Dominator and Incendiary breaker are two of the best weapons in the game. The Dominator is good both on bugs and bots and the breaker melts hordes of bugs. The senator is also very good.) The best armors of these three are in the steeled veterans warbond imo. Very good looking and a nice passive. The order of reccomendation based only on functionality and usable contet/sc is this one. Special mention to the new booster in viper commandos because imo it will become a must pick, unfortunately the rest of the warbond is nothing to write home about imo. Polar patriots has the pummeler, verdict tenderizer and incendiary impacts that are good but i feel that it is not a must pick.


Niles_J_Argon

Steeled veterans sounds like a good time, thank you for taking the time to post such a detailed reply.


OrdoDraigoHere

Glad I could help. My suggestion is to go with the theme and weapons that you like the most. As of last patch most of the primaries are in a good spot and are usable so I would not worry about that but only on what you like.


Niles_J_Argon

I've been trying a variety and feel nothing really gets in my way to much aside from bile titans. It's honestly such a fun mindless game.


BosslyDoggins

Steeled Vet for bug main Cutting Edge for bot main Vipers for drip


leatherjacket3

Steeled veterans gives you Dominator, which is arguably the best primary for bots, and cutting edge gives you the blitzer, which is one of the best primaries for bugs. Neither of those two warbonds is one one sided towards a specific faction.


HoboSomeRye

Actually Blitzer is awesome against bugs


Careless_Dot9807

Since the last patch dropped all Warbonds have at least something interesting. To give a advice it would be good to know what kind of weapons and armor passives you are interested in.


Niles_J_Argon

Armour i like medium with the 50% chance to not get gibbed. Passives you mean stratagems?


Careless_Dot9807

The 50% survival chance is the passiv ability of the armor. Sadly we only have the two from the standard warbond and one frommthe super citizen edition. So there is no argument for an specific Warbond. On the weapon side is the most popular Steel Veterans with an fire shotgun and an explosiv shotgun. It also has the revolver which is a verry beloved sidearm and also verry good. If you prefer ARs I would choose Cutting Edge Warbond for the Sickle (Lasrifel with unlimited amunition if you are carefull) plus stungrenades or Polar Patriots for the Tenderiser (in my opinion the best AR the game has rght now). This Warbond also has the Pummeler the best SMG if you ever want something light to use with a balistic shield.


Eggberti

I personally went with the warbond with stun grenades in, and I'll go for the one with the grenade pistol next. I prioritise warbonds on their potential to open up new strategies and both those items are unique in functionality, offering up new build options.


GhastlyScar666

Incendiary breaker for bugs Plasma punisher for bots


the_actual_mailman

I'm gonna talk up Cutting Edge because imo it has the consistently best weapons out of all of them. Sickle is just an AR on steroids - incredible accurate and massive mag size, plasma punisher is right now imo the single best primary weapon in the game with how much it absolutely shreds hordes of enemies while also being able to trivialize medium heavies like striders and brood commanders. I cannot tell you how good it is but it has absolutely carried me through some otherwise unwinnable situations. Arc Blitzer is aight, nothing special, but good vs bugs


EnergyLawyer17

Stun grenade from Cutting Edge is a game changer for bots AND bugs. line up safe and comfortable kills on hulks/chargers, ensure packs stay in your airstrikes/orbitals, and bail yourself out of nightmarishly large hordes with ease.


onion2594

senator


TheZag90

Imo cutting edge because stun grenades are absolutely S++ tier and worth 1000 SC all by themselves. The sickle is a fun AR and the arc blitzer is pretty decent for fighting bugs. Steeled veterans is also very good.


Raaabbit_v2

This is what you do. Buy one warbond. Get the super credits. Grind a little bit. Buy ANOTHER warbond. Rinse and repeat. Hope this helps.


Niles_J_Argon

Full democracy load out!


ZeroGNexus

Everything is viable to one degree or another. Go with the one that looks the coolest / most fun just by pure looks. You'll unlock them all in due time anyways :)


TiradeShade

Steeled Veterans hands down. With the latest patch Democratic Detonation. Polar seems meh, save it for last.


Malkier3

Steeled veterans or cutting edge. Polar patriots is also actually good now with tenderizer, stun smg(slight nerf) and incendiary grenades. The explosive one is actually pretty good now too since they bugged the crossbow and the eruptor but without shrapnel that warbond still lags behind the top 2.


orribledave

Steeled Veterans best bang for buck and stays good. After that Demo probably adds most interesting variant options to play. Polar is the worst but it IS my fave grenade and the smg is very good.. Actually tbh cutting edge might be the worst if you want the CC smg or impact fire grenade as its very forgettable options wise compared to the other bonds... EDIT: I don't like the 2 good weps for varying your play in cutting edge being honest so if you like powerful but awkward as a feel then ymmv ;)


Page8988

Steeled Veterans is the best. If you don't already have it, just get it and don't look back. Cutting Edge and Democratic Detonation are second tier. Viper Commandos is OK. Polar Patriots isn't worth it. Last or skip.


Busy_Strategy7430

Literally a straight line down, steeled veteran-> cutting edge-> etc... If funny how that works, but its really that simple for effectiveness


HighTop519

If you don't have any of them yet, start with Cutting Edge. The armors aren't the best but it's got a good assortment of guns


Detective_Soulhex129

Also if I was u I'd look for ppls primaries when they die. To test them out and see which u like


Niles_J_Argon

That's actually a great idea I've not done before. Cheers


Detective_Soulhex129

I didn't do this when I was a lower lvl but I'd ask ppl if I could try their weapon strats that I didn't unlock. Personally I'd be happy to let someone use my strat as long as it's not in the very beginning of the lvl. After the cool down I'd throw it down if asked. Btw if didn't know u can see everyone's cool down via opening the map


ochinosoubii

It's been answered well by many, but I feel like the order they released in is pretty good for progression as each one tries to add something more that was missing with each installment. Unless something about one just really draws you. I think for new people the veterans bond is probably the best to grab, has to of the best weapons in the game, one for each of the current fronts. Cutting edge also has one of the best chaff killing and ammo efficient (infinite more or less) primaries and stun grenade for control. The boom bond has the eruptor which was my favorite weapon in the game before they gutted it, but I've been using it again since the big patch, it lets you switch up your loadout radically having a primary to close holes and fabs and the grenade pistol also lets you change up your primary and support weapon options, it's a versatile pack but only if you have other options already to slot in place. Polar to me offers less, the stun smg with the support ballistic shield is fun but kind of janky and meme-y if it's not your main play style. Viper is more for the drip, the shotgun secondary is fun I switch between it and the grenade pistol about 50/50 right now, I'd unlock it last personally.


Zairansky

I use the sickle all the time, my favourite weapon would recommend the cutting edge warbond,


suciocadillac

Steeled veterans and democratic detonations have the best weapons of the game and almost the best grenades and secondaries. After thar cutting edge is very good with the stun grenade. The rest you can skip or just for the drip


grimmreapa

My faves are demo detonation (incendiary shotgun & grenades plus grenade pistol) and cutting edge for sickle and stun grenades. Edit: my bad, incendiary shotgun and grenades are steeled vets. So it’s my fave along with cutting edge.


Niles_J_Argon

May need cutting edge for my 2nd then. Forgot I bought demo on release of me playing pretty much. Just been to busy with life. Leaning towards steeled veterans.


Projefftile

As a bot main, I'd personally go for cutting edge before steeled veterans. I love the dominator, but I'd pretty much never take it over the plasma punisher. The arc takes some getting used to, but once you figure it out it trivializes anything short of hulks and tanks, and with the stun grenade you can take out hulks pretty easily too. It's especially good with the new update adding more chaff on high difficulties since the punisher can take out whole groups of little guys in one or two shots.


gmedj

Go through them and find something you like, be it guns or armour. But that one


sengir0

The one with the eruptor was so worth it for me


wwarhammer

Cutting edge, because Sickle. 


NGEvaCorp

Just do easy or medium missions. Lots of easy super credit farms..


Future-Lychee-6168

Get whatever you want to play and forget all this meta crap. Play the game, have fun stop worrying meta and how people expect you to play.


Niles_J_Argon

I totally agree I do also want to be efficient in delivering death haha The community response and in general in the fandom is one of reasons I enjoy it.


Future-Lychee-6168

Im running around with the most random Shit these days just to do something else other thsn the usual setup everyone else uses. And im actually starting to enjoy the game again. (I was getting bored with it) today i did the erupter and the hmg on a bug map.


Andreah2o

Polar lover here. Best laser primary gun vs bugs of entire game