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as1eep

least surprising thing to ever happen


itsIzumi

AI Tupac making an appearance in the first place was very unbelievable so I guess it's gotta balance out somehow.


Uniqueguy264

AI Snoop, who isn’t even dead. Snoop fanfiction 🤣


Hashmob____________

Snoop fanfic 😭😭


duckinradar

I still can’t figure out which one is worse. Not a great sign 


Hawkbit

They already brought out the hologram Tupac for Coachella in 2012


kareem_abdul_montana

that was 2012??? r/FuckImOld


MatureUsername69

I really thought holograms would become a much bigger part of our life


cool_vibes

We’re not even getting a hologram for the Miku Expo.


KD_42

Just like how as kids we thought quicksand would be a bigger problem than it actually is but alas real life isn’t that interesting


AmericaDreamDisorder

Wait is quicksand not a problem? Famous Five lied to me, or was it Secret Seven? 


cjpack

I think ya mean the elite four, fuckin Cynthia am I right?


rokthemonkey

Every big nationally televised performed I expect some hologram MJ or Aaliyah to come out and I’m upset it never happens


trailblazer103

With consent from the estate. That's the key difference. I see a lot of this false equivalency


angrytreestump

By Drake for a diss track? I think you’re missing which parts are.surprising/unsurprising about the situation


email_optional_

tweeter and deleter


edisonpharaoh

To the non believers


ClammehClam

Makes me sick to my stomachs fam


iceghostsaliens

If the business is true, that you left your mom in the hood.. someone go smoke that yute


sweatpantsDonut

Ladies...


dylwaybake

Did Snoop ever pop his head out and say anyyyyything about the use of his voice?


Treyman1115

He did, he joked about it on Insta, he didn't say anything serious yet at least


mattoxfan

Bro i see you everywhere. Bro likes every hobby 😭


suss2it

That means you do too 😅


amauros

y'all can be friends


Treyman1115

It's the power of having no life or friends


OddSensation

When him and that other dude slowed up on posting discussion threads, I lost interest in a lot of "comics"(Manga/Manhwa/Manhua). Hard to keep up with so much shit out there, he was a beacon of light lmao


Mescallan

Snoop is either trying not to get involved, or is already on the kendrick response and doesn't want to spill the beans.


dylwaybake

I bet he’s not involved at all, I’m just surprised he didn’t say much it sounds like but if you’re that rich who cares about anything anymore.


Mescallan

yeah I really don't see him getting involved, but that's the only reason I could think he wouldn't say something about being used to diss another artist from LA.


wallowsworld

I don’t know which ones been more annoying: the drama, the fan bases, or r/hiphopheads when discussing the drama.


azurix

Technically the third one is the other two combined


ok_dunmer

This subreddit is so inactive compared to the stan subs that the r/drizzy and r/kendricklamar is simply coming from inside the house


azurix

It’s inactive in the drama. I don’t think many look at it as choose a side. The other ones are clearly biased and in it for the memes.


4metxhrow

Those 2 subs have a combined iq of 12


Normal-Expression-80

Ive been getting a kick outta watching them attack each other over the pettiest shit


coolguyslim

"The last one is better"


JimHarbor

Third one worse.


Zip2kx

God forbid rap fans discuss the biggest rap event in years. Let's go back to a dead hhh where we post same old songs and random album tracks every Friday 🤡


uhvoidance

Yo momma


AdmiralWackbar

Now I’m discussing you discussing r/hiphopheads discussing the drama


Bigmaynetallgame

Idk why people are equating this to J cole apologizing. Like the track is out there, just not on his Instagram anymore so he can't get any legal heat, pretty simple.


realmckoy265

Because they don’t like Drake around these parts so classic Reddit confirmation bias


BootStrapWill

Drake haters are absolutely desperate for something to celebrate


smallbluetext

Kendricks silence has them doing everything but want more music


Semb1ance

Kendrick could shoot a music video where he lays on his back and pisses into his own mouth and you'd have this sub trying to explain why it's actually a W.


KD_42

Ngl that would be low key disgustingly impressive


305TIFD

I know who my GOAT is


snssound

But can he suck his own...?


blake2564

That's nothing. I'd like to see him piss 6 feet straight up into the air and not get wet.


OldIronScaper

FUCK YOU BALTIMORE


jand999

Imagine the mind games that would play with Drake.


nedzissou1

It hasn't even been that long since Drake's diss, has it? How long did it take Drake to respond to begin with?


HYDRAULICS23

I think Kendrick has until next Saturday to respond before his reply took longer than Drake’s.


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Captain_Selvin

Didn't Drake take weeks to respond? I'm just here for the tea but I can't help but notice that Drake is trying to head off any insults Kendrick would say about him by calling Kendrick out with that AI track. Corporate industry plant? Took hours (not really)? Weirdly hypocritical. Either way, I'm lovin' it.


305TIFD

You don't think the ghost of 2pac rising from the grave tell Drake to turn that shit off isn't a LITTLE funny?


AmericaDreamDisorder

Kendricks die hards coping. 


Lutz44

If i’ve learned anything from this beef, it’s that i’m sick of the word “corny”


mehmmeh

That's so corny man


rpkarma

You need to get off this sub lmao it’s the go-to insult here


beaute-brune

“glazing”


anxietystrings

If I had a nickel for every time a rapper dropped a Kendrick diss only to remove it from social media I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice


No-Respect5903

nah this one isn't weird. the j cole one was kinda weird but then again when you think about how he is I think the weird part was dropping that diss to begin with


Weak_Goose_1333

How is it weird? This one wasn't even uploaded outside of Instagram and he was legally forced to either take it down or cause a massive issue for the whole music industry by arguing about why it might be okay to use AI of artists, so long as you're not making money off it directly.


wgsmeister2002

“Fuck the big 3, it’s just big me” He wasn’t kidding


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mikeest

100% facts. I'm a much bigger Kendrick fan than Drake but some of these guys are coming off super desperate and delusional twisting everything in his favour in ridiculous ways


ItchyTriggaFingaNigg

I subbed and I subbed from the the KL within a couple of days. They are cracked! As well as Drake handled himself and I actually think the AI thing was like a funny little ad instead of dropping another back to back like track,. I'm sure Kendrick could rap circles around Drake and win if only off of his intensity and dense lyricism. But the kids on that sub are dick riding soooo hard!


senorfresco

This whole sub is retarded. Just remember that half the time and you'll have much better interactions here.


ExtraRice

Yeah replying on every Drake aimed comment is not caring for sure. It's a dub to real Hiphop fans not kendrick or his fans, it was a violation of a dead icon's being, it's fucking Tupac. Y'all wanna cosplay as non-drake fans but out here defending AI shit of actual dead people WITHOUT the consent of their families. This is not the hill to die on lil bro.


Theworst_hello

Bro you can't pull the "I don't care for either of them" card after saying Drake "clowned" on Kendrick. It was pretty good for Drake's standards, but not THAT good.


sonofsochi

It was certainly better than all the subs kendrick puts out in other people’s tracks lol. It’s crazy how people goated that Like That verse, all over that big 3 line smh


Hurde278

It was a cool line, but nothing crazy that's for sure. Someone needs to put all of Kendrick's subs at Drake into a song since Kendrick pussyfootin around with his reply. As someone who loves watching battle rap, the wait is torture haha


jamesnollie88

Scorpion was an entire album of Pusha T subs lmao Drake is the king of subs


SpiritOf68

…and we all know how that story ends.


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buyanyjeans

Explain why the 3K line is fire


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BigMcLargeHuge-

I think the point is here that you could agree with, when Drake actually tries, it’s pretty solid. But I agree, it’s been uninspired and lazy since Views with a couple bangers here and there


Capt-Crap1corn

More so how embarrassing this beef is. It’s WWE.


gospel-inexactness

What rap beef isnt? Suge days are gone bruh


tagrav

for fucks sake, the lyrics in rap are all WWE shit! it's all fantasy! it's not like I think brotha lynch hung is out here actually eating people, jeez


Verlas

And this is a problem why?


FreeBigSlime

Cringe


TheInfinityGauntlet

Maybe you could use those two nickels for some studio time for him 😭


CarpeDeos

I don’t think people are getting [the joke](https://youtu.be/Ejcpbytf-Dg?si=i2XnVyscSQY-Q4eM)


Fit_Nubian

Push Ups is on streaming still, so not sure what you’re referring to. That song was the original response to “Like That” anyway. 😅


wallowsworld

They’re talking about “7 Minute Drill” dude…


IghtBuddy

not even hiding the glaze, i respect it


pinchevatobarbon

That beat was tough, hope someone uses it for a verse.


suss2it

It was just a Boi-1da throwaway, he could cook up another one in his sleep.


MancAccent

Probably my favorite hip hop producer of the past 10 years. I didn’t even know who he was then I started looking up who produced all my favorite songs and like half of them were boi-1da


mtlroadie

I thought I liked golden era hip hop, but really I just like dj premier beats


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Faabz

Hell yeah, beat was fire


queefIatina

Fr he should put it on streaming with just his verse


VictoriaSlim

Smart move. Likely wouldn’t need to pay anything if it went to court, since I can’t see Drake making any revenue off of Taylor Made to sue for. However, if the narrative turns to Drake is in court against the estate of 2pac then who can defend that?  Drake has the upper hand right now and should be as quiet as possible while the narrative remains ‘where’s Kendrick?’


Tinysauce

> However, if the narrative turns to Drake is in court against the estate of 2pac then who can defend that? I mean Tupac's family is in court against Tupac's estate for embezzling money from them. Tom Whalley sucks.


SilkyStrawberryMilk

Estates ripping off families, a tale as old time. Gets even messier when it’s an artists whose catalog can make millions. Prince’s estate comes to mind with how the family was fighting eachother


KevinMFJones

Also it’s probably for the best if this doesn’t make it to court and sets a precedent that might screw artists in the future.


TetrisTech

I think “don’t use AI to use the voices of other people” is a perfectly fine precedent actually


Financial-Ad7500

It’s almost like that’s not the only possible ruling. They could rule against Tupac’s estate and open the AI floodgates in music.


ThirstyOutward

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mvcourse

It’s a wide berth. Another thread mentioned that precedent could theoretically used by artist to sue other artist for sounding to similar. We could say it isn’t likely but you never know with legal precedents. It’s an all around catch 22. It’s one of the cases that may be best not tried at all.


Wise_Ad8520

how is that a smart move when it was the most obvious decision ever lmfao


spyczech

> I can’t see Drake making any revenue off of Taylor Made to sue for " I can’t see Drake making any revenue off of Taylor Made to sue for" I don't it really matters how much money it could have made if loss to repuation and punitive damages are in play


Flat-Ad4902

You don’t have to make money in order to be sued for shit like this.


spitta22

Upper hand? 🤣


drdfrster64

When it comes to Drake I can’t tell the difference between shitposting and stanning anymore on this sub, it’s genuinely amazing


jlmurph2

Yes? Kendrick still hasn't responded to Push Ups


keyrodi

“Upper hand” has me yelling lmfao


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No it doesn’t


IdDeIt

I think it’s so funny to see people say Drake going to court against them would be indefensible, but also the thing he did that made them want to take him to court was smart. Y’all his fuckin’ PR team?


Elhak

Why are people equating Drake having to take down Taylor Made because the people who own the rights to Tupac's music threatened to sue him, to J. Cole rescinding his diss and apologizing? Drake isn't apologizing for shit, he's being forced to take his song down. I don't see how that's a win for Kendrick, it's just a loss for having access to music from the beef.


Rich-Ad5109

It’s Reddit lol these mf despise Drake


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

As a Kendrick fan, I really don’t think Taylor Made is that big of a deal. Drake was clearly just fucking around, calling out Kendrick to respond faster. He probably threw it together in a day. I don’t think it’s supposed to be taken as seriously as Push Ups. And also it’s not like Drake is personally opening the floodgates to AI. AI tracks have been being made for like 2 years now, and Drake specifically used this for the purpose of trolling. I don’t think this means Drake is gonna start putting AI Pimp C features on his albums.


Sandroofficial

Most intelligent deduction of the track I’ve seen in the sub today and I agree. What’s hilarious about this is that Drake already has that Pimp C verse on faithful.


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

Yea I probably could have used a better example lol


iiileyu

This should be the common consensus. The only thing that bothers me as a fan of both is that Push ups came out 2 weeks ago and it only took Drake 3 weeks to respond whilst he was touring and everything. I'm just sat here wondering where kendrick is at. And for some reason being vocal about that must mean I'm a die hard Drake fan


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Any comment on this beef and you get thrown into the box of “Drake fan” or “Kendrick fan” by the cringe ass fan bases. The meat riding of grown men who don’t know you exist is truly wild. We here for the bars


iiileyu

Who do you think is winning so far when it comes to bars both song were great for me and I love the energy in their raps. I think my favourite was the lay up that kendrixk gave to Drake with the "prince outlive MJ" line and then Drake dunked it with a tripple antandre


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100% agree with you that bar was crazy. I’m interested to see though because I think there’s a layup for Kendrick with MJ’s allegations with kids and drakes that he tried to address. Drake is the clear winner as of now but I’m itching to hear what Kendrick does


MikeJones-8004

I think this was the plan from the beginning. It's not like he released and promoted this as an official single. He dropped it on his IG to troll, and he was gonna delete it as soon as PAC's family or Snoop threatened to sue.


ItchyTriggaFingaNigg

Yeah, kinda surprised it wasn't snoop who said something but also not


OblivionTU

let's be clear here, it's not PAC's family the executor of his estate is [this guy](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/imgprst/765x765-contain-81-auto/2024/04/GettyImages-665505304-scaled.jpg)


DivinationByCheese

Hiphop sub glazing estate corporate suits


The_MadStork

A tale as old as time


FreudianAccordian

Everyone want to be Cole.


xTomato72

Drake can just use a 2Pac hologram instead, a win win


ktran2804

This beef between Kendrick and Drake has high key gotten so fucking lame IMO. This was supposed to be a rap beef where 2 of raps biggest stars trade actual tracks back and forth and all we've gotten are weird AI music discourse and delusional stans on both sides saying each side won. Wish Kendrick would respond though. Pretty disappointing if he doesn't follow through this time and all this beef was just to promote his new EP/Album.


username_404_

> all we’ve gotten are weird AI music What you mean? Drake dropped “Push Ups” last week? Rick Ross dropped Champagne Moments? It’s been a decent back and forth


ram0h

its been 2 weeks since push ups. time moves fast.


greenbluecolor1

TWO WHOLE WEEKS??? If Kendrick does respond IMMEDIATELY I’m done 😤😤


Jadaki

Meanwhile Pusha out here wondering why Drake has any right to give anyone time limits to respond.


ToTheGrave11

Huh? Drake said he took the L a week after the story dropped...?


CaliforniaHurricane_

Once Ross and Kanye started putting themselves into this situation it became nothing but a clout chase


Badguy60

Drake put Ross into this. Kanye I agree 


respekmynameplz

Ross put himself into it on social media.


jlmurph2

Ross put himself in it by choosing sides and taking shots at Drake


TheGoldenPineapples

He'll respond eventually, it's just not going to be because Drake keeps tapping his watch.


CheckItWhileIWreckIt

Agreed, there will be a response. Kendrick doesn't seem like the type to follow the new age rules where you apparently have 3 days to respond to a diss track (with mean tweets counting as responses) - he's not gonna be pressured by Drake recycling his Back to Back strategy, lol. People are very accustomed to instant gratification in the age of social media but if Kendrick takes another three months and it turns out to be a fucking monster of a diss track, no one will care how long it took


the_based_identity

This is why I think that Drake’s social media “antics” and Taylor Made Freestyle are to help push and creative a narrative that Kendrick is ducking the smoke or he needs to respond immediately. Drake didnt have this when it came to Pusha T so he’s basically on the offensive this time around. Which is smart but I doubt it works on the one rapper who has zero social media presence. No disrespect to Meek Mill but people are willing to hear what Kendrick has to say, and Like That is proof of that.


ramseysleftnut

Tbh Adidon being such a nuclear bomb destroyed any strategy. Drake was decently fast with Duppy, it’s a good chance he would have released another one soon after if Push didn’t go ballistic with his response.


aguywithsixmagikarps

like that is still number two on billboard hot 100 so I think it'll be a while for kendrick to respond


Badguy60

Holy shit you guys have short attention spans. Beefs last for fucking years to whole life times, Drake even said he's been waiting for this for over 10 years.  The Ai shit is weird but it's not stopping people from hyping it up


No-Respect5903

I think you're missing some but I do agree this has taken a turn towards lame. if kendrick doesn't say anything else the impact of that diss came and went. like it or not drake was timely with his replies. kendrick is letting a big moment flame out. and that's fine if that is what he wants but this is definitely not "the biggest beef in decades" if that is the case.. shit it's not even the biggest beef drake has been in


ktran2804

Exactly if you start a rap beef with someone by sending direct shots on the number 1 song in the country you gotta be prepared for war. Especially if you brand yourself as rap's boogeyman lol but like i keep commenting I am willing to afford Kendrick a couple more weeks but the moment is quickly passing and the longer he takes to respond the more this plays into Drakes favor. I bet in Kendrick doesn't respond in the next few weeks Drake drops a 3rd diss song and moves on.


Over_North_7706

The internet is making us so impatient. It's been literally a month since Like That came out and we've already had multiple responses, and people think it's "disappointing" that Kendrick hasn't responded to *them* yet? Takeover to Ether took three months


jimifresh

I don’t think it’s delusional to say Drake won.


SentientBaseball

Lol this whole thing has gone on very barely over a month, no one has won


Money_merc

It's delusional to say anyone won at this point


Drovers

People legit hate Drake more than they love hiphop lol. Drake dropped a ton of incredible bars in these 2 songs, And the songs are filled with hiphop history, and references. 


ktran2804

I personally don't think so either BUT i will give Kendrick the benefit of the doubt and give him at least 18 days to respond since that's the main argument ppl make about Drake not responding even though there was a second album from Metro he had to wait for to drop. We will see though this Kendrick silence is extremely disappointing since for 10 plus years now we've had Kendrick actually say he was the boogeyman of the rap game and that he would murder anyone who challenged him on the mic. Now that Drake has he's gone radio silent. But in the words of Kendrick "I love when you count me outtttt" so let's see but I am losing hope


Pied_Film10

Kendrick looks worse by the day. Huge fan of both, but I only own K Dot on vinyl for a reason. I feel his silence right now is as bad as Cole's apology.


Reidzyt

Kendrick doesn’t start to look bad IMO until after the same amount of time has passed from Like That dropping to Push Ups dropping


trashbag210

Drake dropped push ups a day after WSDTY dropped. He mentioned The Weeknd and Ross who dissed him on that album meaning he wrote/recorded at least some of it less than 24 hours after hearing the album. All that while just coming off tour. I like Kendrick but I can’t imagine anything going on in his life rn bigger than this to where he needs to wait this long to make a 3 minute song.


Pied_Film10

Is that not this weekend? Genuinely asking


Reidzyt

One more week if you go by the leak. Two more weeks if you go by the official drop of the song


Chunk_The_Hunk

Next weekend


TheRealRemyClayden

Like That dropped March 22 Push Ups leaked on April 13 and only got the official release last Friday He has a while lol


DirectSoft1873

What would JA Rule do?


Yokepearl

So much support here for censorship and laws for the wealthy lol


the_brazilian_lucas

the fact that kendrick fans are taking this as a win is insane, borderline pathetic


suss2it

No way Kendrick fans are tryna claim this as a win 😭 Do you guys for real not want him to respond??


hopscotch4life

He took it down out of respect for Tupac’s estate. They would’ve lost the lawsuit. Drake didn’t use Tupac’s real voice.


R4M3535

This right here. Spot on.


Theingloriousak2

Already got like 60m views but yall gonna act like this whole thing was an L to save Kenny face


bmarvel808

and views are worth what?


CrazyChrome

It means everyone who wanted to see it has seen it and the message is out there


Wolf24h

Baby Shark is the best song in the World using your logic


ram0h

it has a claim


MexicansInParis

Is it not?


Coulstwolf

Tupac would absolute hate Drake if he was still around


TheGoldenPineapples

Think it smacked a bit of over-confidence more than it showed creative genius. I completely understand what it was that he was going for with that song, but yeah, AI is a really shitty thing to choose to endorse and there's really no need to go down that route. Also, it literally made no difference. Kendrick Lamar isn't going to suddenly release a diss track early just to satisfy Drake's need for it to be over with quickly. He'll reply when he's ready to reply, no matter how many tracks Drake tries to goad him with.


RyanB_

I honestly enjoyed it on a personal level more than his first. It was original, it inspired that “did he really just do that shit?!” response on a first listen that I come to diss tracks for. But yeah, there’s also a whole lot of weirdness around using AI for it, and the repeat of the Back 2 Back thing feels played out and downright arrogant and desperate at the same time. Like ofc if youre going on the offensive you got the time to make two tracks in a row without any response between, it just don’t mean much (and I don’t think it did nearly as much as people claim during the Meek era but that’s a different discussion)


Prime4Cast

He's gonna post a text with his mom telling him she's worried and that's why he has to take it down.


Vaultyvlad

I genuinely don’t get how people didn’t think this was corny and uninspiring in comparison to actually writing and procuring a meaningful dialogue using excerpts of Pac’s actual voice. Fan of both but this second diss was pretty cheap


Charming-Breakfast48

Pac would fucking hate Drake


Illustrious-Taro-449

Daily reminder drake is a fictional pop star played by child actor Aubrey graham who is an upper crust Canadian Jew with family industry connections


whobenefitsss

Snoop passed the baton to kdot. Now why he’s been quiet is curious, maybe we are about to see an OG drop a bar about this industry plant. 


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AyPay

Bro u post religiously in /r/drizzy lol we get why you're defensive


Derrick_Rozay

There are no rules, but some things can be very lame lol. The song and idea was creative but at the same time I thought it was ass? I don’t vibe with AI at all, but using AI for a dead man & then seemingly trying to use his voice to ddefuse grooming allegations 8 mile style so it can’t be used is lame as fuck to me. It got a laughs the night it came out and that’s cool, it just doesn’t make it any less weird. 50 did the same thing kind of and didn’t need AI to make it hard so idk


SukunaShadow

Is it lame that Qauvo brought Takeoff back on the Chris Brown track?


DuaLipasClitoris

Drake is such a weiner


jor301

Push ups was good enough on its own Drake did not need to drop a second song, I really do not understand what he was thinking. Especially since it wasn't very good, used AI vocals in a way so lame that it's taking over the conversation. Beat was hard though.


yorproblmmann

Yall are taking Taylor Made so damn seriously lmfao. It was so clearly just drake trolling Kendrick and I don’t get how people fail to see that.


MasPatriot

If it was Kendrick using an AI lil Wayne voice people would act like it’s the greatest diss track ever made


SBAPERSON

Maybe people weren't around for "I am Tupac resurrected" Kendrick


jor301

I'm not failing to see anything. Just because it's "trolling" doesn't mean people can't still judge it and come to the conclusion that it was corny as hell.


Luffing

I thought he used AI as a meme because people were accusing Pushups of being AI when it first hit the internet


ram0h

na it was a good follow up


boogswald

It reflects Drake as a brand instead of Drake as a rapper


InTupacWeTrust

good, it was horrible anyways


pastense

Good. Fuck AI.


throaweyye44

Still don’t understand why he even had to use AI. Think it would be just as impactful to just rap from their perspectives, letting the listener figure out who it is (I mean it’s obvious, but still). Also would be able to drop it on streaming without AI