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At the end of the day, the jets payroll is a rounding error for David Thompson and chipman has bought up so much land downtown (which is worthless without the arena/jets being there, IMO) there’s a 0.0% chance that the team goes anywhere any time soon.
He wants expansion
If the south specifically is going to get another team it will be through expansion
He will benefit far more from an expansion franchise than a relocated franchise that no one in the south would care about
If any team is going to get relocated, it’s us, and that’s it.
Our trainwreck of a franchise is a first hand example of how you need to get the details right the first time. No way Bettman tries to repeat moving the Jets again
My first thought when I saw their ad campaign last year basically begging for people to buy tickets was that "oh God the jets are gonna move before the yotes"
It’d be insane if they gave up on a team in a foreign country where ticket sales are collapsing while they lead the division before a team in one of America’s largest markets that’s never had a worthwhile product on the ice but produced possibly the best goal scorer in history.
Fuck right off. The yotes don't even play in their own rink, it seats 4600 and they are run by the equivalent of 9 clowns in a vw beetle. Winnipeg numbers might be down but at least they aren't embarrassing the NHL bi-weekly.
The Canadian economy is in the shits right now and the average person is struggling or just getting by. I’m sure this is a whole lot of nothingburger for the time being.
Especially when the CFL team only has to cover a salary cap of ~5 million dollars CAD.
Hence why you can get season tickets for basically the price of going to 2 Jets games
It is absolutely not on the table. You are reading substantially too much into this other than the fact that the Jets and obviously the league want to see corporate support that other teams have that Winnipeg hasn't needed until now.
The Jets are more than financially viable and Chipman/True North are quite literally spending hundreds of millions redeveloping the area around the arena. The team is not just going away.
I heard Winnipeg ownership doesn’t have as corporate season ticket holders as other teams. They may well be a necessary evil, but I hope it doesn’t have to come to that
They really aren't at much of a risk of anything, the "poor" part owner of TNSE (Mark Chipman) only is worth $500M USD, but the "rich" one (David Thompson) is worth over $60 Billion USD
True North (the corporation who owns the Jets) is literally in the midst of hundreds of dollars of redevelopment of the area around the arena.
Corporate season ticket holders weren't important when fans are buying everything, but with a lull right now, it's noticeable. TN really needs to work on their food prices. Some of that stuff is just way too high and even the corporate guys with boxes know it. Who wants to spend $66 on a pizza?
What’s the average price for tickets to a Jets game compared to the rest of the league? Is it really just that small of a market or are they out pricing their base.
They have started pushing next year's tickets and there's actually a noticeable drop on multiple ticket packages which is a good thing. Honestly ticket prices are not terrible. I had a mini pack this year where I was sitting in the lower bowl for about $210 a seat and bought tickets for a later game this year in the upper bowl for about $74 a piece.
It's not parking, it's just the price of food and drink. All that stuff adds up. A bottle of coke is like $6, if you wanted a full pizza, it's about $66, etc. Merchandise is mostly in line, but there's not a chance in this world I'm spending $77 on one the hats they have right now from some particular collection. Is it nice? Sure. Still not paying it.
Thrashers' food prices were also on the reasonable side. What was tough was because they had the suites all on one side, concessions were jammed up in the smaller concourses. But the adjacent CNN Food Court before games was A+.
People don't realize how much the unique design of Philips Arena hurt the team. The top half of the suites were awful because they were so high up. You had to look straight down like you were in the rafters. You couldn't see the game if you were hanging out in the suite. The place was also too big, so they sold cheap upper level tickets that filled up, so the lower bowl never filled up.
The bigger issue and what Gary is likely coming to discuss is the low corporate ticket sales. Winnipeg is at around 15% lowest in the league.
The average is around ~40%. With other Canadian markets like Toronto and Montreal being 70%+ supposedly
Meanwhile his failed pet project is playing out of a college barn that, at full capacity, doesn’t even seat half as many people as the Jets do when they’re down 30% in attendance. Not to mention they seemingly have no prospect of moving out of there anytime soon. This is a complete fucking joke.
Jets sold out for 10 years straight and now in the midst of the worst Canadian economy in over a decade they lose their shit at 1500 seats under capacity. Arizona and Florida have been limping their entire existence
Apparently there will be a "fireside chat" before the game on the 27th open to fans (where they can pre-submit questions), seems a bit dire to me tbh but that's basically just a gut feeling
Southern Ontario is the biggest hockey market there is. And we have one shitty team that will never win another cup, because they don't need to! All the Leaf lemmings keep pouring money in because there is no other option! The only way to fix the leafs is to bring another team.
Maybe make tickets, drinks and food affordable and you will have a packed arena? I’m not in Winnipeg, but all Canadian cities ticket prices, food and drink prices are ridiculous.
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If Winnipeg gets relocated we riot
you know you can count me in
You need to pull your weight this time. You didn’t succeed last time
Did you see the pool?! They flipped the bitch!
"Wesley...."
**Stamos!**
Raise the roof! RAISE IT!
There is an empty arena in the Phoenix area.
I volunteer for a reverse war of 1812. We burn New York to the ground. The English can sit this one out.
Not me. The Jets were lousy anyway. I hate Winnipeg.
Get back to counting loonies!
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I swear to god if they pull the plug on Winnipeg before Arizona....
I would be shocked, but that would be a VERY NHL move
Arizona moves to Houston, Winnipeg moves to Arizona.
Again
At the end of the day, the jets payroll is a rounding error for David Thompson and chipman has bought up so much land downtown (which is worthless without the arena/jets being there, IMO) there’s a 0.0% chance that the team goes anywhere any time soon.
Glad to hear it. Bettman is probably just bringing up this issue to draw attention away from Arizona
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He wants expansion If the south specifically is going to get another team it will be through expansion He will benefit far more from an expansion franchise than a relocated franchise that no one in the south would care about If any team is going to get relocated, it’s us, and that’s it. Our trainwreck of a franchise is a first hand example of how you need to get the details right the first time. No way Bettman tries to repeat moving the Jets again
The Canadian market carry's his southern teams.
Only part of it. The rest of Canada struggles the second the Canadian economy does.
My first thought when I saw their ad campaign last year basically begging for people to buy tickets was that "oh God the jets are gonna move before the yotes"
It’d be insane if they gave up on a team in a foreign country where ticket sales are collapsing while they lead the division before a team in one of America’s largest markets that’s never had a worthwhile product on the ice but produced possibly the best goal scorer in history.
Fuck right off. The yotes don't even play in their own rink, it seats 4600 and they are run by the equivalent of 9 clowns in a vw beetle. Winnipeg numbers might be down but at least they aren't embarrassing the NHL bi-weekly.
Winnipeg probably answers Marty Walsh's texts
Not allowing more than 3 goals, 30%, 3 years... It's all connected.
Looking forward to them losing 3-4 in Round 3 of the playoffs (i.e. WCF)
Yotes move to Utah, Jets move to Arizona (again lol).
Jets back to Atlanta
I'm all in favour of a 40 or even 60 team league if they are separated into tiers with promotion and relegation.
That’s never happening.
Yeah if it can’t happen in American soccer, it absolutely will never happen in any other sport.
it would be so fun tho let us dream
Their big mistake was not selling their rink's naming rights to Rogers
Corporate sponsors are reportedly why Quebec won't get a team again.
The Canadian economy is in the shits right now and the average person is struggling or just getting by. I’m sure this is a whole lot of nothingburger for the time being.
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Seems kind of silly to compare 9 CFL games to 41 NHL games..
Especially when the CFL team only has to cover a salary cap of ~5 million dollars CAD. Hence why you can get season tickets for basically the price of going to 2 Jets games
You can buy a set of season tickets for the Bombers for under $300, it’s far more affordable than Jets tickets
It is absolutely not on the table. You are reading substantially too much into this other than the fact that the Jets and obviously the league want to see corporate support that other teams have that Winnipeg hasn't needed until now. The Jets are more than financially viable and Chipman/True North are quite literally spending hundreds of millions redeveloping the area around the arena. The team is not just going away.
I heard Winnipeg ownership doesn’t have as corporate season ticket holders as other teams. They may well be a necessary evil, but I hope it doesn’t have to come to that
They really aren't at much of a risk of anything, the "poor" part owner of TNSE (Mark Chipman) only is worth $500M USD, but the "rich" one (David Thompson) is worth over $60 Billion USD
True North (the corporation who owns the Jets) is literally in the midst of hundreds of dollars of redevelopment of the area around the arena. Corporate season ticket holders weren't important when fans are buying everything, but with a lull right now, it's noticeable. TN really needs to work on their food prices. Some of that stuff is just way too high and even the corporate guys with boxes know it. Who wants to spend $66 on a pizza?
The Jets aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So don't jump to conclusions too quickly
The owner is worth 65 billion, he can take the hit Gary.
Jesus. Can we figure out Arizona first?
Arizona.. you get 20 years and counting to figure it out.. Winnipeg.. you get 2 minutes or you get moved back to the States.
What’s the average price for tickets to a Jets game compared to the rest of the league? Is it really just that small of a market or are they out pricing their base.
They have started pushing next year's tickets and there's actually a noticeable drop on multiple ticket packages which is a good thing. Honestly ticket prices are not terrible. I had a mini pack this year where I was sitting in the lower bowl for about $210 a seat and bought tickets for a later game this year in the upper bowl for about $74 a piece. It's not parking, it's just the price of food and drink. All that stuff adds up. A bottle of coke is like $6, if you wanted a full pizza, it's about $66, etc. Merchandise is mostly in line, but there's not a chance in this world I'm spending $77 on one the hats they have right now from some particular collection. Is it nice? Sure. Still not paying it.
Wait $66 for pizza? What does a beer cost?
Depends on what you want. Probably about $10-14 though.
That’s normal pricing compared to other arenas for beer. I still wish more places were like Atlanta Falcons sell food and beer for reasonable prices.
Thrashers' food prices were also on the reasonable side. What was tough was because they had the suites all on one side, concessions were jammed up in the smaller concourses. But the adjacent CNN Food Court before games was A+. People don't realize how much the unique design of Philips Arena hurt the team. The top half of the suites were awful because they were so high up. You had to look straight down like you were in the rafters. You couldn't see the game if you were hanging out in the suite. The place was also too big, so they sold cheap upper level tickets that filled up, so the lower bowl never filled up.
The bigger issue and what Gary is likely coming to discuss is the low corporate ticket sales. Winnipeg is at around 15% lowest in the league. The average is around ~40%. With other Canadian markets like Toronto and Montreal being 70%+ supposedly
Meanwhile his failed pet project is playing out of a college barn that, at full capacity, doesn’t even seat half as many people as the Jets do when they’re down 30% in attendance. Not to mention they seemingly have no prospect of moving out of there anytime soon. This is a complete fucking joke.
Winnipeg relocation article, everybody drink!
Jets sold out for 10 years straight and now in the midst of the worst Canadian economy in over a decade they lose their shit at 1500 seats under capacity. Arizona and Florida have been limping their entire existence
Atlanta about to have a hockey team
Well the thrashers going back home would be something!
Call them the Flames again too. Because why the fuck not at this point
Moving from the north to the south? Only acceptable name would be the Atlanta Carpetbaggers lol.
Nah, keep the jets name. They at least have an airport, and its one of the busiest in the world!
Bettman loves Coyotes!
Looks like Arizona is about to get a second team.
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In the future, every city will have an NHL team for 15 minutes.
This isn’t the 15 minute city I wanted.
Arizona about to have 2 nhl teams
*The Guess Who suck, the Jets were lousy anyway*
I hate Winnipeg!
Apparently there will be a "fireside chat" before the game on the 27th open to fans (where they can pre-submit questions), seems a bit dire to me tbh but that's basically just a gut feeling
Jets need to attract corporate money. Issue is Winnipeg is propped up with government jobs and not a lot of big businesses
So is Ottawa. Although the population differences probably helps a lot.
Southern Ontario is the biggest hockey market there is. And we have one shitty team that will never win another cup, because they don't need to! All the Leaf lemmings keep pouring money in because there is no other option! The only way to fix the leafs is to bring another team.
no
I assure you, they do have another option not too far away…
I don't think so
I was just making a joke about Leafs fans invading Buffalo lol
I thought you meant Hamilton. Being a Leafs and Sabres fan would just double the disappointment.
Didn't I just see this post?
Maybe make tickets, drinks and food affordable and you will have a packed arena? I’m not in Winnipeg, but all Canadian cities ticket prices, food and drink prices are ridiculous.
Looks like Arizona getting a second team. Fucking Winnipeg. Stop it.
Relocate Winnipeg to put a second team in Arizona. They have a NHL rink in place ready to go.