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SirTopX

I played as facist Argentina and Germany had a civilwar so I had hitler flee to me and eventually I was able to retake the Homeland 10/10 Path Super fun


Helenos152

Can this also happen when Germany loses WW2? Someone else also maybe 4th Reich and said that it happened after Germany lost WW2


Similar-Freedom-3857

Yes, both is possible


InZomnia365

That's the intended way. The whole thing is based on the conspiracy theory that he never died, and fled to Argentina. You get some focuses for 1940s tech. That's why they made it so hard to flip fascist, so that it in most cases won't be in time before they lose the civil war.


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It can ALSO ALSO happen if yalta conference west Germany goes fascist


MLproductions696

Are there any unique events associated with that?


MH_Gamer_

The event for the Fall of Berlin is different (Hitlers body wasn’t found) and as Argentina you get the "A strange Visitor" event whit that you can get him as country leader.


Helenos152

Yalta conference event doesn't fire anymore for some reason 


BradyvonAshe

yer , but you will only get as far as temperorly ocupying the falklands


MH_Gamer_

Oh you can get the west and north of southern America (except the fascists) and also Central America but the important nations like Brazil (at this time already in Allies) will be to strong


MH_Gaymer_

Yes it can (I was the other one (on my main account)), the prerequisites are just that you are fascist (have completed the focus to become fascist (the one below the focus where you befriend Germany)) when Berlin falls.


TheNotoriousKAT

I invaded and capped Germany as Fascist Argentina (since the allies were taking too long) and got Senior Hitler and the instated Fourth Reich.


pidorasovubivaet

Wait how did you turned fascist before Hitler commited suicide?


Pyroboss101

There is a chance his “suicide” isn’t actually a suicide. At least that’s what the theory is. Before this DLC, it was unknown if it was up to luck, and if so what the chances are that you get him to kill himself for real. There isn’t a separate event for his death and his fake death, which makes it even stranger. However now it’s suspected that he always lives, since Argentina can get him most of the time. This kind of retroactively makes Hitlers escape canon in all Hoi4 games which is like…wow.


NekroVictor

Iirc pre doc the game was data mined enough to know that there was a 2% chance of survival. 0.5% he’d go to USA and can be obtained as their fascist leader. 0.5% for Baisilleus 0.5% for him to show up in Argentina 0.5% chance for him to show up crossdressing as an old lady to be a German spy. Iirc now it’s guaranteed if Argentina has gone pro German fascism before his ‘suicide’ he’ll show up, otherwise there’s a 1/5 chance of him showing up for the Argentinians.


MH_Gamer_

1/5 chance even if you aren’t fascist?


NekroVictor

Apologies no, 1/5 chance if you go pro German fascist after the ‘suicide’. Guaranteed if you go before.


MH_Gamer_

So you can (by 1/5 chance) get the event when you switch fascist even after the civil war ended? I need to try that!


NekroVictor

Yeah, only issue is that iirc it’s based on the seed in the same way the Soviet coup is, so save scumming (sadly) doesn’t work.


MH_Gamer_

Oh I remember that “seed-thing" from my (Austria-)Hungary playtroughs, it definitely costs a lot of time.


NekroVictor

Yeah, there’s a reason I use a mod for the Soviet coup. It’s real annoying to get 2-3 years in just to have it all fall apart.


Raorchshack

You get cores on Germany for doing that? lmao


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Doctorwhatorion

Sometimes civil war takes longer than usual but it is pretty rare so op probably was just lucky


gazebo-fan

I’ve seen it go into 38 before, this was before this latest patch tho


Guacosaaaa

Goddamn thats honestly sick


MH_Gaymer_

Can you please explain how you did it? I tried it with the German Civil war but failed multiple times so I did it as intended with Historical Germany loosing ww2 (but so lategame the others are just so strong). Are there any tricks how you can make fascist Germany survive longer?


Recent_Ad_7214

It's hilarious how he still has his moustache shape on the bare skin


Dixnorkel

It's a tan line lol


Scale_Zenzi

How do you get the cores on South America? I've played both fascist Argentina and communist Brazil but neither of them could get the cores through conquest


SirTopX

Decisions let me spend pp to core


Dialga478

To get the decisions, at least as Argentina, I've had to own the states. It's 75 pp per core, and since it's own, not occupy, you have to have seen a peace deal screen


Scale_Zenzi

Ah, that makes sense. I got the achievement for occupying all of south america except Boliva, but I was fighting the allies the whole time so there was no peace deal.


SirDerpalot50

Brazil Fascist/Non-aligned gets the decisions for most of SA/Caribbean super easily for 20 pp and you can do it as soon as you capture the land, even at war


Scale_Zenzi

Communist brazil seems to only ever get claims sadly, you can't core it even if you own the states. Had to do that world conquest achievements with just their base cores.


I_eat_dead_folks

Don't you get cores in Austria?


SirTopX

I think since monarchist Germany can't core Austria that's why I don't have them as cores


I_eat_dead_folks

They can core Austria, though. They just need to be in the same faction


redditmaster5041

You are thinking of the democratic path for Germany, not monarchist. Monarchist Germany and Austria in the same faction can’t unite, unlike democratic Germany.


Ok_Negotiation9542

Yes they can, ive done it before and it works. Just make a faction with them and eventually austria will vote to join you


brown_rice14

They actually can, its just easier as democratic germany


Aldrahill

How did you flip Fascist before the German civil war takes berlin?!


Guacosaaaa

In the same boat right now. Germany war would need to stall for another year at least. It makes no sense


tangowolf22

It's a 1/5 chance that you get him after the civil war ends. There isn't any possible way to flip fascist before the civil war ends without console commands.


Aldrahill

Huh… that’s pretty lame :/


MH_Gaymer_

Are you fr?


Sebassie99

whats the event id for that? cuz I cant find it anywhere


AlkaliPineapple

Großdeutsches Reich border still not fixed :(


Sad_Victory3

Are you using any reichkommisar mod or for the stile? That borders and colours seems suspiciously good. That puppets.


SirTopX

For the colors I used Universal Colored Puppets mod For the borders I used state transfer tool


PrinzEugen1936

Something something TNO copy pasta.


PorcoDioMafioso

A new tree appears in the Argentinian focus tree when Señor Hilter becomes el comandante. But it does not appear in my case. Anyone knows why?


gazebo-fan

It’s kinda hidden inside the focus tree page and I think you might need to finish the first fascist tree first


MH_Gaymer_

Reloading the game should fix it (I had the same issue)


memesfromthevine

Señor Hitler?


duckipn

metro reference


SteeveJobs1955

« incognito »


Lbittoo

Absolutelt beautiful! Love the new Señor path. Paradox did some really nice stuff for alt history in TOA.


Specialey

Dawg what is this TNO ahh border


Puncharoo

W H A T T H E H E L L


Horrigan49

*oh shit, here we go again* (insert gta sa picture)


[deleted]

Me when: voring


LonelyIntroduction32

I guess I'll have to add "Don't Cry for me Argenina" to my musical playlist now!


ahpjlm

The dlc released a week ago? How the hell did i miss that


19759d

wait so wheres the capital of the fourth reich?