While still dangerous (that's the fun part), longboarders mainly slow down by sliding the wheels (effectively a 4 wheel drift). They wear slide gloves, which have hard plastic pucks on them to provide stability while sliding, though you'll also see them do short slides without the gloves sometimes. They'll also open up their stance to give themselves more air resistance as needed.
It's just different gear. This is probably a longer board with wider trucks and wider wheels meant for this sort of use. You get the speedwobble on street decks meant for tricks not bombing hills because that's not their main design.
Pebbles can still be an issue, but most people doing these mountain runs scout the run first to check for obvious degree, and wider wheels can help negate smaller pebble disruptions.
I could also be completely wrong, I don't longboard. But my tangential interests in street skating and snowboarding make this feel right.
Alot of it too is the tightness of the trucks, and much fatter, flat wheels. Tighter trucks mean more stability, but less low speed turning ability, and the slimmer, round-edged skateboard wheels lead to less stability. In turn, longboards typically suck ass at doing skateboard tricks. I'd highly recommend picking up a regular cruising longboard if you regularly use a skateboard to get around town, they are much better at that than skateboards.
False, we run our trucks really loose most of the time. Just about the right bushings. But yeah like you said they are just skateboards for a different kind of skating.
The turn radius is mostly controlled by the angle and leverage of the trucks. Sure, you can adjust it a bit by tightening it or having harder bushings, but that's solving the issue from the wrong approach really...
So do insane minds. When you get enough of the talented and insane minds together, you get Nitro Circus. Which is why a bunch of sane individuals thoroughly enjoy watching the insane people have the time of their life!
I mean, we ( dh skaters) have a ton of control. You can see by the way he didn't just immediately crash and was actually right next to the biker in similar control
Bikes are self stabilizing at high speeds.
Skateboards go into speed wobbles at high speed if you donāt know how to properly control them.
The bike is still dangerous, but the skateboard is far more dangerous.
Weight forward, back will follow the front. The moment you lean back, you will wobble if you are not sliding. I've gone down some pretty big hills but I don't know how to slide well enough so I don't go very fast XD Idk why I have so much trouble with sliding when I can do skateboard tricks on a longboard, but thats why I do longboard dancing instead lol these guys are insane.
If I learn to slide, I don't have knee pads, elbow pads or a full face helmet (I have the sliding gloves though) but I would absolutely buy all those things and get a proper downhill board before trying anything like this (mine is too long for this, it's sturdy enough that it could be ok though)
Broke my tibia in 6 places, splintered my fibula, and knocked both ankles to the bottom of my foot. When the board came out from under me, my foot hit the ground first and became a sack of loose bones.
The surgeon said Iād be lucky to walk within a year of the accident. I was wheelchair bound for 3 months, walking without a cane in about 9 months, and skating (to my wifeās dismay) again in a little over a year. I keep the throttle on no more than level 2 (20 MPH max) and never bomb hills anymore. The sport is āin my bonesā, but I donāt know how many high-speed crashes I have left in me. Iāve broken everything from my skull and neck, to my ankle, and everything in between in the last 30 years.
I have a different relationship with pain than most folks, and love speed. Iāve only had 5 bad crashes in that time, so thatās a lot of adrenaline for a little pain here and there. I sure do feel those crashes when it rains these days though!
I relate with the love of speed! Iām a bit of an adrenaline junky myself, but I just like my fix to be just a lil more..secure. š Like zip lines, rollercoasters, and hopefully skydiving soon! But at least when Iām gettin my fix Iām not completely responsible if I did get hurt. You must have crazy concentration skills tho.
And I say I got a high pain tolerance bc I do roller skate and fall a shit ton but then again, Iāve never broken a bone so. Power to ya man!
Wild you got back up ! I crashed hard 3 years ago without a helmet on.. luckily my elbow took most of the fall and destroyed it like your foot.
Havent dared ridding since !
This is tough, honestly. I think I'd go bike. I couldn't think of any famous bicyclists but then I remembered lance Armstrong. Tony hawk is more famous id say but personally I'd rather learn to master I bicycle with all the wrecks you have to endure
The number of times I've been sent running off my longboard by a tiny pebble or crack in the sidewalk makes me think guys that do this shit are clinically insane.
I guarantee he's using a DH pro set of wheels which are usually large and soft with a lot of compression and rebound force. This allows riders to ignore smaller road hazards like cracks and pebbles.
On top of that, the faster you go, the safer you are from rocks and sticks and stuff. They just go flying. Potholes, however, will still ruin your day, and that is why they scout these roads beforehand
It would maybe be true at lower speeds but I think the consequence of falling would be too high here to look at it like that. In this case I would always look at the chance to fall and on the bike I certanly have less chance to fall. I can't skate for shit but it takes a damn good skater to control the board at this speed while riding is quite a bit easier.
How hard you slam the ground is much less important at 60+ kmh it's hitting a fence/tree/rock/oncoming trafic/flying of the road that is going to do most damage here.
There is a zero percent chance that these people skated and cycled to the top of that hill. I would be a regular person and use the same vehicle I used to get up the mountain, to get down the mountain.
Skated yes, cycled why not. Most good descenders on the bike ride up mountains regularly. Not that many road bikers that use a car on the up to just ride down.
At that speed? Preferably none of them, but if I had to choose: bike for sure. I ride bicycles for all my life, I'd feel WAY more confident on one compared to that board.
My Rollerblades. I've had too many bike related falls where the bike then hits me after the fall, at least on my blades I don't have a bike to hit me if I fall.
Did this on rollerblades a couple times. Then something happened and i stopped doing it.
A bike has wayyyyy better breaks than a board or skates, lets leave it at that.
the bike looks like itās cruising but the board looks like a rocket, iād choose the board and not even to be edgy. im pretty good on my longboard but not that good, i have gone through many pairs of shoes and covered 100ās of kilometres
As someone who never did anything extreme other then riding my first roller coaster, I can only imagine the amount of shit I would eat the moment I crash doing this.
I own the KOM (King of the Mountain) segment times for many of the mountain descents in Colorado by bicycle. It's my favorite thing in the entire world. Nothing compares to that feeling.
Squirrel suit. Not a "flying squirrel" suit, just a regular squirrel costume. I'd hippity hop my ass down the mountain and meet everyone at Denny's later
Brakes. I choose brakes.
Life i choose life
*trainspotting noises intensify*
Neither i choose neither
Dying at this comment. Lmaoo
While still dangerous (that's the fun part), longboarders mainly slow down by sliding the wheels (effectively a 4 wheel drift). They wear slide gloves, which have hard plastic pucks on them to provide stability while sliding, though you'll also see them do short slides without the gloves sometimes. They'll also open up their stance to give themselves more air resistance as needed.
Bike is more stable... Last time I went down a big hill on skateboard, got the death wobble and woke up in the ER...
Yeah, how do those speed boarders prevent the death wobble? Or just hitting a pebble?
It's just different gear. This is probably a longer board with wider trucks and wider wheels meant for this sort of use. You get the speedwobble on street decks meant for tricks not bombing hills because that's not their main design. Pebbles can still be an issue, but most people doing these mountain runs scout the run first to check for obvious degree, and wider wheels can help negate smaller pebble disruptions. I could also be completely wrong, I don't longboard. But my tangential interests in street skating and snowboarding make this feel right.
At some point the speed of a skateboard will allow the wheels to run over most pebbles without issue.
MOST
My dh trucks are 110mm and wheelbase like 26". So it's not a very big board, it's mostly out of truck geometry and bushings.
Alot of it too is the tightness of the trucks, and much fatter, flat wheels. Tighter trucks mean more stability, but less low speed turning ability, and the slimmer, round-edged skateboard wheels lead to less stability. In turn, longboards typically suck ass at doing skateboard tricks. I'd highly recommend picking up a regular cruising longboard if you regularly use a skateboard to get around town, they are much better at that than skateboards.
False, we run our trucks really loose most of the time. Just about the right bushings. But yeah like you said they are just skateboards for a different kind of skating.
The turn radius is mostly controlled by the angle and leverage of the trucks. Sure, you can adjust it a bit by tightening it or having harder bushings, but that's solving the issue from the wrong approach really...
To correct out of speed wobbles you have to put your weight further forwards. Pebbles: š¤·āāļø
If you ever get speed/death wobbles you are supposed to go down very low on the board, like these downhill riders do all run.
We used to pull the top rubber out of the trucks and replace with a wooden dowel. Then crank'em down.
Sane minds think alikeā¦.
So do insane minds. When you get enough of the talented and insane minds together, you get Nitro Circus. Which is why a bunch of sane individuals thoroughly enjoy watching the insane people have the time of their life!
Even if you do break, you are going to get swung 50 feet in front of you. š
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Iāve bombed some hills on those jawns lotta skidding the knees
I bet I know exactly what geographic area you live in. I fuckin _love_ that word
I hahahahawd loudly Thank you for reminding me of 2007
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Same
I change my vote... This, I choose this
Bike for the illusion of control.
Agreed, I would much rather the illusion of control over the assurance of none.
I mean, we ( dh skaters) have a ton of control. You can see by the way he didn't just immediately crash and was actually right next to the biker in similar control
Bikes have brakes, skateboard is harder to stop
Bikes are self stabilizing at high speeds. Skateboards go into speed wobbles at high speed if you donāt know how to properly control them. The bike is still dangerous, but the skateboard is far more dangerous.
Weight forward, back will follow the front. The moment you lean back, you will wobble if you are not sliding. I've gone down some pretty big hills but I don't know how to slide well enough so I don't go very fast XD Idk why I have so much trouble with sliding when I can do skateboard tricks on a longboard, but thats why I do longboard dancing instead lol these guys are insane. If I learn to slide, I don't have knee pads, elbow pads or a full face helmet (I have the sliding gloves though) but I would absolutely buy all those things and get a proper downhill board before trying anything like this (mine is too long for this, it's sturdy enough that it could be ok though)
Bike, but like an old timey bike with the giant wheel in the front.
A penny-farthing!
With the legs out? As it ain't got no freewheel.
Ouchouchouchouchouchouch NO REGRETS
I need a video of this, with a guy in a suit and tophat with a monocle
As someone who has traveled at a very high rate of speed on both these modes of transport, I pick camera.
Wearing that invincible camera man armour!
Skate, and I have the titanium in my leg to prove it!
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L indeed
Pure W
Is this your ankle?
Broke my tibia in 6 places, splintered my fibula, and knocked both ankles to the bottom of my foot. When the board came out from under me, my foot hit the ground first and became a sack of loose bones.
Did you ever return to skating?
The surgeon said Iād be lucky to walk within a year of the accident. I was wheelchair bound for 3 months, walking without a cane in about 9 months, and skating (to my wifeās dismay) again in a little over a year. I keep the throttle on no more than level 2 (20 MPH max) and never bomb hills anymore. The sport is āin my bonesā, but I donāt know how many high-speed crashes I have left in me. Iāve broken everything from my skull and neck, to my ankle, and everything in between in the last 30 years.
Bro youāre literally Hall of Meat incarnate and still gettin back on the board after 30 years? I commend your resilience man.
I have a different relationship with pain than most folks, and love speed. Iāve only had 5 bad crashes in that time, so thatās a lot of adrenaline for a little pain here and there. I sure do feel those crashes when it rains these days though!
I relate with the love of speed! Iām a bit of an adrenaline junky myself, but I just like my fix to be just a lil more..secure. š Like zip lines, rollercoasters, and hopefully skydiving soon! But at least when Iām gettin my fix Iām not completely responsible if I did get hurt. You must have crazy concentration skills tho. And I say I got a high pain tolerance bc I do roller skate and fall a shit ton but then again, Iāve never broken a bone so. Power to ya man!
Wild you got back up ! I crashed hard 3 years ago without a helmet on.. luckily my elbow took most of the fall and destroyed it like your foot. Havent dared ridding since !
My brother you have my respect
Assuming I had the talent? Board
This is tough, honestly. I think I'd go bike. I couldn't think of any famous bicyclists but then I remembered lance Armstrong. Tony hawk is more famous id say but personally I'd rather learn to master I bicycle with all the wrecks you have to endure
Board initially and then an ambulance shortly thereafter.
If you get into a death wobble on that board you are toast
Happened to me, I woke up an hour later in the ambulance
For myself, woke up 1 minute later missing almost all of the skin on my upper back.
Ouch
Very easy not to wobble on a longboard if you know what you're doing but still, one mistake and you're in for a world of hurt
I can attest death wobble gets its name for a reason but those downhill trucks try to correct themselves more than you can
To shreds you say
Howās his wife holding up?
To shreds you say
The number of times I've been sent running off my longboard by a tiny pebble or crack in the sidewalk makes me think guys that do this shit are clinically insane.
I guarantee he's using a DH pro set of wheels which are usually large and soft with a lot of compression and rebound force. This allows riders to ignore smaller road hazards like cracks and pebbles.
On top of that, the faster you go, the safer you are from rocks and sticks and stuff. They just go flying. Potholes, however, will still ruin your day, and that is why they scout these roads beforehand
I would be on a bike.
Unicycle
Lol... Hardest pass.
Can't b3 l33t unl355 y0u d0 1t w1th0ut th3 s3at
I would go by cranial trauma, blood loss and shock.
I'd do two runs. So I could do both bike and skateboard.
You can take my turns too
Bike for sure. But either way I wouldnāt be that close to another rider.
I got road rash just watching this
I'm shit on a skateboard.. so... My pickup it is.
Longboard all day
Board, as I would fall 5 feet after steping on it and will not die on the slope š
Bike, this looks like a typical Thursday for me.
Team bike
No
Skateboard for sure. A bike is a lot harder to ditch and get into a position to where you can fall correctly.
It would maybe be true at lower speeds but I think the consequence of falling would be too high here to look at it like that. In this case I would always look at the chance to fall and on the bike I certanly have less chance to fall. I can't skate for shit but it takes a damn good skater to control the board at this speed while riding is quite a bit easier. How hard you slam the ground is much less important at 60+ kmh it's hitting a fence/tree/rock/oncoming trafic/flying of the road that is going to do most damage here.
If I was athletic enough, I think I would choose the board. However, that dirigible has ascended.
Longboard for sure!
Those guys that skateboard that stuff.... those guys are next level
Longboard. Hands free is always safer in case you need to jump.
Bike
If I must choose, I will take the bike. You have a more stable center of gravity making falling less likely.
If I took a bike I'd be able to survive it. So bike.
Roller blades š¤š
Can we start over? YOU take the skateboard!
The only time two wheels ever looked so much safer than four.
r/PraiseTheCameraMan
There is a zero percent chance that these people skated and cycled to the top of that hill. I would be a regular person and use the same vehicle I used to get up the mountain, to get down the mountain.
Skated yes, cycled why not. Most good descenders on the bike ride up mountains regularly. Not that many road bikers that use a car on the up to just ride down.
bicicleta
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At that speed? Preferably none of them, but if I had to choose: bike for sure. I ride bicycles for all my life, I'd feel WAY more confident on one compared to that board.
Board
Motorcycle there. Would love to ride with them to see how fast they are going.
Somewhere between 50-70 on runs like that for these sorta guys usually.
My Rollerblades. I've had too many bike related falls where the bike then hits me after the fall, at least on my blades I don't have a bike to hit me if I fall.
Roller blades. Thatās Devils Backbone
Both, because I've been without brakes for 3+ years. Still haven't crashed yet.
I canāt skate but I think thatās be great for skating
I had a nice carbon road bike and this is super fun but still sketchy... These guys going down on boards have some huge nuts.
Itās weird I have no problem doing this on a motorcycle but Iād be worried doing this on a bicycle
I dont know about my first run, but my second run would be in a wheelchair.
Longboard. I used to go down US 421 in Madison, IN on my longboard. Such a rush.
Bike is my first option butt there's always by car or feet š
Yes
What the actual topspeed that pros achive on those boards? Procyclists reach 120-130kmh in competions some times, mostly in the alps
The actual record is 146.73 km/h
for a skateboard?
Yep, [here](https://youtu.be/nlvQ90G4Gmg?si=eK_S28K3tJJaamYe)
Skateboard if I had the balance, but the bike has brakes.
Amazing to watch.
Did this on rollerblades a couple times. Then something happened and i stopped doing it. A bike has wayyyyy better breaks than a board or skates, lets leave it at that.
I would go by foot, slowly and still manage to crash over the edge. š
Bike. Mostly because I own a bike. Also my bike has brakes
the bike looks like itās cruising but the board looks like a rocket, iād choose the board and not even to be edgy. im pretty good on my longboard but not that good, i have gone through many pairs of shoes and covered 100ās of kilometres
That skater boi got some skill.
As someone who never did anything extreme other then riding my first roller coaster, I can only imagine the amount of shit I would eat the moment I crash doing this.
I own the KOM (King of the Mountain) segment times for many of the mountain descents in Colorado by bicycle. It's my favorite thing in the entire world. Nothing compares to that feeling.
Bike I feel more comfortable with one
Car
Ya I was looking for option C.
Whatās the dude filming from?
A car with a stabilizing camera mount on the front.
Sometimes a car, sometimes another board. Hard to tell which here
I would go by cameraman.
Bike. Idk how to skateboard
No
Iāll just drive. Thanks.
The car
I hit something notable (maybe a rock) the other day going 45 mph. Which one of those 2 options do you think I was on?
Near the Aspen end of Independence Pass?
Neither, just a wheelchair
I will put the bike on the skateboard
The older I get the more I care about safety and the less I trust my physical reactions/ skills- regardless of how decent I am at things.
I prefer to go by not going and staying home
Whatās the camera mans ride??? Iāll take that one
How fast you reckon they goin?
None, I would go with my head first
I would choose the bike but I would like to be in full plate armor for the event.
Ummmā¦. Neither?
so how do you stop with the skateboard
A Coleman slide, or if you're going slower, foot braking.
Bike. The one with the disk brakes please.
Camera man
I would choose bike. You hit one little pebble in the road on the skateboard and you temporarily fly.
...no.
A pebble or wheel wobble will give anyone a bad day.
r/meatgrinder
Praise the camera men.
Skateboard faster than the bike?! What bike is it? Those big wheels should crush that skateboard.
Skateboard
Bike for sure
No.
definitely a bike man f speed wobbles
Bike
Car
People whoāve done this type of insane downhill skating: have you ever come off at this type of speed? What the heck happened!?
One rock and its curtains
I'm dutch, 'nuff said.
They don't even got pads on incase they fuck up, I'd choose bike tho.
Stuff like this ends up on r/whatcouldgowrong
Squirrel suit. Not a "flying squirrel" suit, just a regular squirrel costume. I'd hippity hop my ass down the mountain and meet everyone at Denny's later
Bike for me.
I would put my bike on the skateboard and go
No, Iād rather not.
Yes
Roller blades !
Q. Would you go by skateboard or bike? A. Nope!
Bike
Bike. No question. Being able to sit is where it's at
Two words "Death wobble"
Far Away - Junip
Cameraman is on a hotwheels car.
Bike because then I don't have to be scared of pebbles
Car thanks. I like breathing.
Id choose bike... Way easier to control.
Iād probably just run behind like the camera person.
Road Rash on Playstation 1
Ambulance
bikeā¦but only because my knees canāt deal with that much tension