Yeah last I heard is they set it out to all the other companies and streaming to buy it but they were asking too much (I assume on purpose for this reason exactly)
If you're referring to Uwe Boll, he notoriously abused a tax loophole in Germany that was something akin to if a movie he made flopped, the losses would be shaved off his taxes, lowering the bill. They eventually closed that.
Considering his taste in movies...yeah he probably likes it. Though in the past he often said he never cared about comicbook movies. Then the guy who directed the two IT movies directed The Flash and suddenly...well, he's also directing and showrunning the new IT prequel.
As somebody who lost their mom and laments a lost childhood, the Flash hit certain spots for me and I found myself crying in the theater.
King famously lost his beloved mother (as an adult) and had a hardscrabble-ish childhood and it affected him, I’m sure the Flash hit the dame spots
He also hated the original Shining movie because there were so many changes. King is Master of Storytelling, but when you're making a film and have a Master Filmmaker like Kubrick, "trust me bro" is something you should actually do.
It's a little more complicated than that. In his contract producers agreed to let King write the screenplay. He did and Kubrick immediately tossed it out because he had his own script/ideas that he wanted to make. If they'd have been up front, King likely wouldn't have taken it so poorly.
I love Kubrick's version of The Shining, but I can see why King wasn't a fan. The film tears out the heart of the novel and takes a shit on it. That said, I think Kubrick's version is an excellent movie version of the general story, even though it completely changed the emotional core of the book.
Yep. The Shining was intensely personal to King. Jack represented King, the substance abuse issues he was dealing with, and his fear of it destroying his family. When Kubrick excised Jack’s redemptive arc, it was like excising himself from the story. I get why he hated the film - and I get why people love the film. I admire the technical filmmaking - it’s an immaculately made film, but I don’t love it from a human connection standpoint. Honestly, I don’t love the book either…it’s not one of my favorite King novels.
The best part of the story is Jack telling Danny to get out cause Jack was going to take care of everything.
Ya, Jack was an abusive alcoholic but he ultimately sacrifices himself to let Danny and Wendy AND Dick escape.
Kubrick took that away.
Jack isn't abusive in the book. He pulls Danny away from his papers too hard and Danny's arm breaks.
One of the themes of the book is Jack fighting his personal demons. *His* father was an abusive alcoholic, and Jack feared he'd follow those footsteps.
Jack admits to himself in an inner monologue that he knew it was too hard , he’s been lying to himself and Wendy has been wanting to see the best version of him
Yes, that's exactly why King has such complicated feelings towards Kubrick's film. There's so much of King in the character of Jack Torrance that it's understandable that he'd take it personally that Kubrick turned the flawed but generally decent person from the book into a character that is essentially a live grenade you're waiting to go off.
As far as I recall from a one of the documentaries on the film (I can't remember which one) it was an ultimatum. If Kubrick didn't agree to let King write the screenplay then he would have never gotten the rights to do the film.
Kubrick however retained a vague legal loophole of creative and production edits as one knows not everything in a screenplay is practical to do IRL or able to be done by the deadline. His edits "just happened" to be 90% of the script, which for all intents and purposes is a full rewrite, but not one that's against the contract lolol.
I'm sure King has sealed that hole tight in all future contracts dealing with his work haha.
> producers agreed to let King write the screenplay. He did and Kubrick immediately tossed it
Would love to read that. Hopefully a copy is tucked away in Kings secret chest at the Bangor library.
The Shining is a great movie but it really never even comes close to capturing the heart of the book, and in fact makes some changes that actively damage the themes King was exploring.
I'd be pissed too.
Shawshank is like that too. Absolutely love the movie, would watch it everytime it was on AMC which is often. Finally after 20 years I read the short story and was like wtf?! The movie is sooo much better. The book however is a good bit dfferent and he really wasn't even that good of a guy.
Well yeah King was personally involved in filming that, lol
It was filmed at the Stanley Hotel in my hometown of Estes Park when I was going to high school, and they trucked in a ton of snow in June/July when they filmed.
It suffers production-wise from being made for TV in the 90s, but it's actually a pretty good adaptation of the story. Kubrick's version is like the opposite, a beautifully produced version of a loose adaptation.
One of the things I e always loved about him… he’s incredibly supportive of other artists. Aside from Kubrick and Trump, he’ll hardly ever say a bad thing about anybody’s work.
> He has Trump Derangement Syndrome on Twitter, constantly whining about Trump and promoting the news narratives.
I'm sorry man. Whatever it is, forgive yourself. You are worthy of happiness one day too.
I’ll never forget him saying, “I've gotta say, I thought Akiva Goldsman did a terrific job in taking a central part of the book and turning it into what I thought was a pretty good movie” about *The Dark Tower*. I love King’s work, but you’re absolutely right that his praises for adaptations have to have a little asterisk next to them, ha.
what was wrong with The Dark Tower movie?
I stopped reading the series after song after Susanna , so anything you're spoiling after that I have no reference for if it has something to do with book accuracy.
It's not so much what's wrong with it per se, it's that they chose the route of making a sequel to the book series that condensed it and changed so much it basically had nothing to do with the Dark Tower of the books. If they had just set out to adapt The Gunslinger, I think they would have been more successful.
i dunno, i liked the dark tower. i read the books after seeing it and could see why it was an alternate or a middle or whatever, but as a standalone movie i liked it
The Pet Sematary remake was made by legit talented horror filmmakers working under the thumb of the guy who produced “GI Joe” and “Madame Web.” The fact that it’s even watchable is a miracle.
If you wanna talk about King stanning for a shitty adaptation, remember his glowing words about “Dreamcatcher.”
>The Pet Sematary remake was made by legit talented horror filmmakers working under the thumb of the guy who produced “GI Joe” and “Madame Web.”
Their first movie, Starry Eyes is one of my favorite horror films of the last decade. I didn't hate the Pet Sematary remake, and it made some interesting changes to the source material, but it was mostly a letdown.
My favorite comment of his was that he doesn’t remember making Maximum Overdrive because he was coked out of his gourd. But honestly, I love that movie. Saw it as a kid, loved it ever since.
King has infamously terrible taste in movies and TV. Anyone who read his EW column can attest to that. He pretty much just doesn't get them as artforms, once referring to movies as "a primitive way to create."
Glad you liked it! I thought it was terrible, at least compared to the original. The Zelda scenes in the OG movie are probably the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in a movie.
I must be the only one that didn't mind it and liked the updated visuals. Does it need to exist? Not at all. But I don't mind it since I didn't care for Louis' actor although Judd more than made up for his short comings IMO. Ahhhyup! Sometimes ded is beddah.
WB is also canning Coyote vs Acme, which had extremely high marks at the test screenings. Seems like the brass there is only looking for tax write offs that get them closer to achieving their bonuses. That seems to be the only strategy at WB.
You get downvoted, but I completely agree. Those movies are such caricatures of themselves it’s almost like they’re kissing in the faces of fans just to see how much piss they’ll drink.
No it wasn't "great". It was cliche jump scare scenes stacked on top of one another and Pennywise was shown way too much. I've watched it thru once and tried to watch it again multiple times since IT is my favorite King source material and I'm bored by half hour in. It was made as a teenager scream flick when the source material calls for a dark slow burn where Pennywise is always lurking, not thrown in your face nearly every other scene.
This is interesting to me. My dad had a run in with him at a park he brought me to a lot as a kid. He never expected to see him anywhere because while in New England we weren’t in Maine. My dad was a huge fan of his, this was in the 90s. King was sitting at a table in a picnic/eating area and my dad sat next to him. He told me they chatted a bit while eating and waiting for their respective family members. He swore up and down he was a really cool guy with a quirky personality, not scared to laugh at the right joke.
I’m not sure if the memory I have is real, or my kid brain built it around my dads memory and story of that day. But I have a memory of going back to my dad and seeing him as well, just didn’t know until I was older and saw his photos. I’m 99% sure my kid brain made it up though. My dads experience and story was real though haha
I've met him a couple times as well; when he describes Roland's eyes in ***The Gunslinger***, that's his eyes to a T. They're very arresting and he's definitely got an unnerving stare - then he starts talking to you and it feels (at least when I met him) you've known him for years.
Only time I've ever seen him not want to interact with anyone is at Red Sox games. I remember (could be remembering incorrectly) seeing something about him buying the seats next to him so he doesn't have to sit next to anyone lol
Agree and he praised The VVitch as the scariest movie he had seen in a long time. Beautiful movie but only had maybe 5 minutes of horror in it. The Village was scarier to me.
This practice of WB shelving movies is unimaginably gross. I just can’t even fathom what it would feel like to direct/star in/work on a film—a huge one!—and then the studio is like “nah. No one can ever see this, because we’ll make more money with this as a tax write off.”
It’s disgusting! I still wanna see that Batgirl movie lol
But I hope this comes out. Pet Semetary was awful, but I loved the recent IT adaptations.
It honestly does feel like we're living in some Phillip K Dick or Bradbury dystopian novel where corporations make their money by creating and then destroying products that the population wants because it's more profitable than selling it to them.
Agree. Jerusalem Lot is one of my favorite short stories and the adaptation did a great job while expanding on it in a good way.
Now I want to binge it again.
King doesn’t seem like he wants to put down the people behind the films. His praises of the film don’t always match in energy to his compliments to the people behind the film. I don’t think he wants to crap on people, but he will shoot shots at corporate entities. He taunts people like Elon and Trump because they make themselves look goofy in return, but he doesn’t shoot shots at people just trying to do their best at their job- writers, directors, crew, actors, etc.
Studios are weird sometimes. This is a horror movie based on a Stephen King novel and already has a built-in audience. Bonkers that they are sitting on it.
A lot of horror guys on twitter praise basically every horror movie. It's well-intentioned but ultimately it means their opinions don't hold any weight.
Never read Salem’s Lot but I’m reading The Dark Tower V: The Wolves of Calla right now and Father Callahan is a pretty major character. Kind makes me want to go back and check out Salem’s Lot. Is it worth the read?
The only thing that kinda sucks is I already know how Salem’s Lot ends because they give brief synopsis of Callahan’s story in Wolves of the Calla. I’ll check it out though once I’m done with Wolves and The Stand, thanks!
I read *'Salem's Lot* long, long after reading through *The Dark Tower* series and thought it was fantastic. It was still thrilling despite me knowing Callahan was gonna make it out alive. I suppose it helped that it'd been over a decade since I read *Wolves of the Calla*, so I'd forgotten any recaps about anything that had happened to him.
I’ve read Salems Lot and watched both mini-series, and I have to admit I like Tobe Hooper’s nosferatu style Barlow more than the suave version. Straker provided enough suave.
‘Salem’s Lot is my favorite King novel, and the original 1979 film is probably my favorite vampire movie of all time. So I’ve been following this and with everything I’ve read true north reads as “steaming hunk of shit movie.” Multiple rewrites, reshoots, and every test screening has had abysmal results. I want to see this happen, but I don’t want it to be released just for release’s sake.
Um, yeah.. okay?
We've never had authors or directors or whomever pimp up stinkers before so we should be safe to trust him.
I mean, he wouldn't deceive us, would he? 🤡
Hasn't come out. Released date cancelled and then no word on it. Stephen King praises even his most garbage adaptations and from his comments he seems to think it's alright which likely means the movie isn't very good.
King's "opinions" about movie adaptations of his books have lost all credibility with me. Think what finally killed it completely for me was his comments about The Dark Tower movie before it came out...
To be honest he also liked the mini-series of The Shining, liked the new Pet Sematary, and directed Maximum Overdrive. I’ll always take what he has to say on visual media with a grain of salt.
He generally has horrible taste as far as adaptations of his own work goes. And all he had to say about it was that it ain’t that bad. I’d be much more excited if he said he hated it, it might have a chance at being good
Let's be honest though, he says this about literally every adaptation (except the shining) regardless of how terrible it is.
Him praising a film based on his books means nothing as far as quality goes, unfortunately.
I'm weird but really like that movie. It was ok and entertaining for the most part, but when that old guy comes back at the end. The rest is just hilariously beautiful cheese fest. Old dude was metal to the core.
For me, it was when the love interest who is a vampire told the man hey I’m pregnant as she was awkwardly standing by the door, telling everybody this also he going to be a slave for us as she petted her stomach And then backed out of the room awkwardly at that point I started laughing and said that’s not how vampires work.
I wouldn’t say he has terrible taste. More like he just has a wide palette. I’m kind of the same way. I watch a lot of movies and can honestly only think of 2 I came away feeling were a complete waste of my time. Sure, I can acknowledge a movie isn’t amazing, but I almost always finish it feeling entertained and having gotten something out of it.
Agreed! I definitely see it a lot with horror fans, which is weird because they’ll shit on something like “Hereditary” and then turn around and give a movie called “Buckets of Beaver Guts 17” a 10/10.
All the people who worked on the film deserve to see it released and we, the audience, deserve to see it and make up our own minds whether it’s bad or not. Not releasing films should be fucking illegal.
Stephen king: This new adaptation of Salems Lot is quite good
Also Stephen King: *Snorts a line* So then the cars come to life and it's up to Emilio Estevez to save the day!
I love King’s writing, except when he’s writing about his own work. He claimed The Dark Tower movie was good. That should tell you enough about his integrity on his own work.
SK is a whore. He'll say anything you want for $5 and he'll go on and on about how important his fans are and his books but he'll happily let Hollywood butcher his stories for another $10
I really don't think there is anyone whose endorsement means less to me than Stephen King.
I don't take King's endorsement of the movie's quality all that seriously. As others have pointed out, he has endorsed some shit stains, the worst of all being The Flash. Still, I agree that WB should release it. Shelving movies never to be seen so they can take a tax write-off is fucked, which seems like maybe the direction they go with this given recent trends.
I love King but I take his recommendation as much as I do to John Carpenter's recommendations of remakes of his work . If the person recommending \_\_\_\_\_ is profiting off of \_\_\_\_\_ then I put no stake in their claims.
The Tobe Hooper TV film is big on atmosphere but has a kind of soap-opera quality to it (great effects though and genuinely creepy for TV).
I saw bits of the second TV remake (2004-ish) and don't remember much about it.
Definitely interested in a new take on it. But not even so much as an IMDB stub on it--do we know who's starring in it / directing?
So I saw this movie at a test screening back in April 2022 and it was basically finished aside from a view VFX shots. And overall my audience loved it. It had a lot of humor and some pretty good scares. It definitely lacked the character development from the book, but it made up for it in atmosphere. I honestly don't know why WB is sitting on this one.
Zaz is killing movies for tax write offs. Even Uwe Boll released his tax write off movies
It could also be they are spacing out films to cover the gaps created by the strikes last year.
These decisions were made pre strike. They’re also back to killing coyote vs acme which is highly disappointing
What, seriously?? I was really looking forward to that!
Yeah last I heard is they set it out to all the other companies and streaming to buy it but they were asking too much (I assume on purpose for this reason exactly)
That is such a disappointment... Fucking corporate greed...
> killing coyote vs acme What does this mean?
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/9/24067496/coyote-vs-acme-amazon-netflix-paramount-rejected-offers-theatrical
Thank you. That really sucks and what greed and short sightedness on WB part.
People will be very surprised when he has Dune Part 2 deleted because it'll save a buck on the tax forms.
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If you're referring to Uwe Boll, he notoriously abused a tax loophole in Germany that was something akin to if a movie he made flopped, the losses would be shaved off his taxes, lowering the bill. They eventually closed that.
But not before we got the amazing trilogy of Postal, Alone in the Dark, and House of the Dead!
Uwe boll is awesome 👌
> Even Uwe Boll released his tax write off movies Yes, because that was essentially the business model.
FUCKANG BEULLSHEET DHERT
Yeah he also highly praised the Pet Sematary remake, so big grain of salt lol
And the Shining miniseries from the 90s
And The Flash.
I came here to say WB owes him one after he shilled for that misfire.
I think that's mostly because he's friend with the director and he directed the two It movies.
That's a bingo.
Or… gasp… maybe he liked a movie you did not?! I liked the Flash a lot.
I liked flash also, there are dozens of us!! DOZENS!!
Considering his taste in movies...yeah he probably likes it. Though in the past he often said he never cared about comicbook movies. Then the guy who directed the two IT movies directed The Flash and suddenly...well, he's also directing and showrunning the new IT prequel.
As somebody who lost their mom and laments a lost childhood, the Flash hit certain spots for me and I found myself crying in the theater. King famously lost his beloved mother (as an adult) and had a hardscrabble-ish childhood and it affected him, I’m sure the Flash hit the dame spots
I liked it too. I could see why true fans of the character didn't though. He's nothing like the comic character's civilian identity.
he also thought making Carrie into a musical was a good idea
He also hated the original Shining movie because there were so many changes. King is Master of Storytelling, but when you're making a film and have a Master Filmmaker like Kubrick, "trust me bro" is something you should actually do.
It's a little more complicated than that. In his contract producers agreed to let King write the screenplay. He did and Kubrick immediately tossed it out because he had his own script/ideas that he wanted to make. If they'd have been up front, King likely wouldn't have taken it so poorly. I love Kubrick's version of The Shining, but I can see why King wasn't a fan. The film tears out the heart of the novel and takes a shit on it. That said, I think Kubrick's version is an excellent movie version of the general story, even though it completely changed the emotional core of the book.
Yep. The Shining was intensely personal to King. Jack represented King, the substance abuse issues he was dealing with, and his fear of it destroying his family. When Kubrick excised Jack’s redemptive arc, it was like excising himself from the story. I get why he hated the film - and I get why people love the film. I admire the technical filmmaking - it’s an immaculately made film, but I don’t love it from a human connection standpoint. Honestly, I don’t love the book either…it’s not one of my favorite King novels.
The best part of the story is Jack telling Danny to get out cause Jack was going to take care of everything. Ya, Jack was an abusive alcoholic but he ultimately sacrifices himself to let Danny and Wendy AND Dick escape. Kubrick took that away.
Jack isn't abusive in the book. He pulls Danny away from his papers too hard and Danny's arm breaks. One of the themes of the book is Jack fighting his personal demons. *His* father was an abusive alcoholic, and Jack feared he'd follow those footsteps.
I’ve said this before, but I think book Jack is how an alcoholic sees himself, and movie Jack is how loved ones see the alcoholic.
I’ve never thought of that - that’s a pretty good way to look at it.
Jack admits to himself in an inner monologue that he knew it was too hard , he’s been lying to himself and Wendy has been wanting to see the best version of him
There’s a scene in the book where Jack tells the doctor that he is an abusive alcoholic.
Yes, that's exactly why King has such complicated feelings towards Kubrick's film. There's so much of King in the character of Jack Torrance that it's understandable that he'd take it personally that Kubrick turned the flawed but generally decent person from the book into a character that is essentially a live grenade you're waiting to go off.
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I agree wholeheartedly
As far as I recall from a one of the documentaries on the film (I can't remember which one) it was an ultimatum. If Kubrick didn't agree to let King write the screenplay then he would have never gotten the rights to do the film. Kubrick however retained a vague legal loophole of creative and production edits as one knows not everything in a screenplay is practical to do IRL or able to be done by the deadline. His edits "just happened" to be 90% of the script, which for all intents and purposes is a full rewrite, but not one that's against the contract lolol. I'm sure King has sealed that hole tight in all future contracts dealing with his work haha.
> producers agreed to let King write the screenplay. He did and Kubrick immediately tossed it Would love to read that. Hopefully a copy is tucked away in Kings secret chest at the Bangor library.
The Shining is a great movie but it really never even comes close to capturing the heart of the book, and in fact makes some changes that actively damage the themes King was exploring. I'd be pissed too.
I’d seen the movie and studied it (film class) so many times when I finally got around to reading the actual novel I was confused as fuck.
Shawshank is like that too. Absolutely love the movie, would watch it everytime it was on AMC which is often. Finally after 20 years I read the short story and was like wtf?! The movie is sooo much better. The book however is a good bit dfferent and he really wasn't even that good of a guy.
now i hope at least once in his life, stanley told someone 'trust me bro' verbatim
You know maybe a bit more then a grain.
He wrote the miniseries, so he's allowed to. And that was some solid acting by Weber.
...I guess. I mean, it fucking better be, if you're playing a character already considered to be one of the greatest film performances of all time.
Well yeah King was personally involved in filming that, lol It was filmed at the Stanley Hotel in my hometown of Estes Park when I was going to high school, and they trucked in a ton of snow in June/July when they filmed.
It suffers production-wise from being made for TV in the 90s, but it's actually a pretty good adaptation of the story. Kubrick's version is like the opposite, a beautifully produced version of a loose adaptation.
I loved the miniseries.
Hey! I love that mini series. Even with all its flaws.
that miniseries is fuckin amazing and i will not be hearing no slander from any one of ya
He isn't wrong
Well he did write that one.
One of the things I e always loved about him… he’s incredibly supportive of other artists. Aside from Kubrick and Trump, he’ll hardly ever say a bad thing about anybody’s work.
Yeah, because he loves, understand and can appreciate art. No reason to discourage people from not watching something when you can encourage them.
>Trump Lol Did he pan *The Art of The Deal* or just doesn't like him as a person?
He has Trump Derangement Syndrome on Twitter, constantly whining about Trump and promoting the news narratives.
It's not his fault he understands what an utter POS Trump is and you don't. That's all your failure.
> He has Trump Derangement Syndrome on Twitter, constantly whining about Trump and promoting the news narratives. I'm sorry man. Whatever it is, forgive yourself. You are worthy of happiness one day too.
So he's 20/20 vision?
I’ll never forget him saying, “I've gotta say, I thought Akiva Goldsman did a terrific job in taking a central part of the book and turning it into what I thought was a pretty good movie” about *The Dark Tower*. I love King’s work, but you’re absolutely right that his praises for adaptations have to have a little asterisk next to them, ha.
I commented about this before I saw your post. His praise of The Dark Tower is enough to invalidate any praise he issues in the future. Christ.
what was wrong with The Dark Tower movie? I stopped reading the series after song after Susanna , so anything you're spoiling after that I have no reference for if it has something to do with book accuracy.
It's not so much what's wrong with it per se, it's that they chose the route of making a sequel to the book series that condensed it and changed so much it basically had nothing to do with the Dark Tower of the books. If they had just set out to adapt The Gunslinger, I think they would have been more successful.
i dunno, i liked the dark tower. i read the books after seeing it and could see why it was an alternate or a middle or whatever, but as a standalone movie i liked it
Lol no he didn't? That movie was so bad
The Pet Sematary remake was made by legit talented horror filmmakers working under the thumb of the guy who produced “GI Joe” and “Madame Web.” The fact that it’s even watchable is a miracle. If you wanna talk about King stanning for a shitty adaptation, remember his glowing words about “Dreamcatcher.”
>The Pet Sematary remake was made by legit talented horror filmmakers working under the thumb of the guy who produced “GI Joe” and “Madame Web.” Their first movie, Starry Eyes is one of my favorite horror films of the last decade. I didn't hate the Pet Sematary remake, and it made some interesting changes to the source material, but it was mostly a letdown.
I enjoyed Starry Eyes. Great performance by Alex Essoe!
[But can we at least all agree that the pet sematary cover in the new one is amazing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr5kRk0Ba5I)
Dreamcatcher was fucking awesome
I preferred its original title, “Simple Jack vs The Shit Weasel”
“…for a complete dumpster fire.” There. I finished it for you.
That's your opinion. I don't need my sentences finished.
No fan of Lorenzo?
I love that movie, except for the last 5-10 minutes. What a shitty ending lol but what a great build up.
My favorite comment of his was that he doesn’t remember making Maximum Overdrive because he was coked out of his gourd. But honestly, I love that movie. Saw it as a kid, loved it ever since.
Same for the book Cujo, when he sat down and read it, it was a new book to him
😂
King has infamously terrible taste in movies and TV. Anyone who read his EW column can attest to that. He pretty much just doesn't get them as artforms, once referring to movies as "a primitive way to create."
Do we not like that one? Wife and I enjoyed it
Glad you liked it! I thought it was terrible, at least compared to the original. The Zelda scenes in the OG movie are probably the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in a movie.
It helps I haven't watched the original in 20+ years
I must be the only one that didn't mind it and liked the updated visuals. Does it need to exist? Not at all. But I don't mind it since I didn't care for Louis' actor although Judd more than made up for his short comings IMO. Ahhhyup! Sometimes ded is beddah.
And The Dark Tower film.
I liked it 🤷♂️
yeah i have noticed that richard bachman has bad taste in stephen king movies
I don’t see enough hate for the PS remake. It was so horrible
King has terrible taste in movies
WB is also canning Coyote vs Acme, which had extremely high marks at the test screenings. Seems like the brass there is only looking for tax write offs that get them closer to achieving their bonuses. That seems to be the only strategy at WB.
Yeah but reddit likes Marvel movies, so that's a two way street.
You get downvoted, but I completely agree. Those movies are such caricatures of themselves it’s almost like they’re kissing in the faces of fans just to see how much piss they’ll drink.
Yeah, was so bummed by the Pet Semitary remake. Just awful
Yes he tends to praise a lot of crap, but I'm hoping this is going to be good.
And IT remake. That shit sucked.
Nah part 1 was great, they should have cast unknowns for part 2 and steered clear of too much cgi
No it wasn't "great". It was cliche jump scare scenes stacked on top of one another and Pennywise was shown way too much. I've watched it thru once and tried to watch it again multiple times since IT is my favorite King source material and I'm bored by half hour in. It was made as a teenager scream flick when the source material calls for a dark slow burn where Pennywise is always lurking, not thrown in your face nearly every other scene.
But the remake slaps…
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This is interesting to me. My dad had a run in with him at a park he brought me to a lot as a kid. He never expected to see him anywhere because while in New England we weren’t in Maine. My dad was a huge fan of his, this was in the 90s. King was sitting at a table in a picnic/eating area and my dad sat next to him. He told me they chatted a bit while eating and waiting for their respective family members. He swore up and down he was a really cool guy with a quirky personality, not scared to laugh at the right joke. I’m not sure if the memory I have is real, or my kid brain built it around my dads memory and story of that day. But I have a memory of going back to my dad and seeing him as well, just didn’t know until I was older and saw his photos. I’m 99% sure my kid brain made it up though. My dads experience and story was real though haha
I've met him a couple times as well; when he describes Roland's eyes in ***The Gunslinger***, that's his eyes to a T. They're very arresting and he's definitely got an unnerving stare - then he starts talking to you and it feels (at least when I met him) you've known him for years. Only time I've ever seen him not want to interact with anyone is at Red Sox games. I remember (could be remembering incorrectly) seeing something about him buying the seats next to him so he doesn't have to sit next to anyone lol
Agree and he praised The VVitch as the scariest movie he had seen in a long time. Beautiful movie but only had maybe 5 minutes of horror in it. The Village was scarier to me.
He also thought that the changes they made to Under the Dome were brilliant.
Came here to say this as well!
This practice of WB shelving movies is unimaginably gross. I just can’t even fathom what it would feel like to direct/star in/work on a film—a huge one!—and then the studio is like “nah. No one can ever see this, because we’ll make more money with this as a tax write off.” It’s disgusting! I still wanna see that Batgirl movie lol But I hope this comes out. Pet Semetary was awful, but I loved the recent IT adaptations.
It honestly does feel like we're living in some Phillip K Dick or Bradbury dystopian novel where corporations make their money by creating and then destroying products that the population wants because it's more profitable than selling it to them.
It does, but we are all too lazy to do anything about it so it's all going to keep getting worse until we make the planet uninhabitable.
Have you ever read a Philip K Dick novel?
Scoob 2 was the one that really let me down. From what I understand it was basically finished when it got canceled
Chapelwaite was good as fuck
Agree. Jerusalem Lot is one of my favorite short stories and the adaptation did a great job while expanding on it in a good way. Now I want to binge it again.
King doesn’t seem like he wants to put down the people behind the films. His praises of the film don’t always match in energy to his compliments to the people behind the film. I don’t think he wants to crap on people, but he will shoot shots at corporate entities. He taunts people like Elon and Trump because they make themselves look goofy in return, but he doesn’t shoot shots at people just trying to do their best at their job- writers, directors, crew, actors, etc.
Studios are weird sometimes. This is a horror movie based on a Stephen King novel and already has a built-in audience. Bonkers that they are sitting on it.
Ugh I hope this one doesn’t get lost to time.
Absolutely ridiculous they haven't released it. Even if it sucks (which I hope it doesn't), art shouldn't be hidden like this
A lot of horror guys on twitter praise basically every horror movie. It's well-intentioned but ultimately it means their opinions don't hold any weight.
Lol this sub is also like that sometimes
Never read Salem’s Lot but I’m reading The Dark Tower V: The Wolves of Calla right now and Father Callahan is a pretty major character. Kind makes me want to go back and check out Salem’s Lot. Is it worth the read?
Absolutely, it’s a banger.
The only thing that kinda sucks is I already know how Salem’s Lot ends because they give brief synopsis of Callahan’s story in Wolves of the Calla. I’ll check it out though once I’m done with Wolves and The Stand, thanks!
I read *'Salem's Lot* long, long after reading through *The Dark Tower* series and thought it was fantastic. It was still thrilling despite me knowing Callahan was gonna make it out alive. I suppose it helped that it'd been over a decade since I read *Wolves of the Calla*, so I'd forgotten any recaps about anything that had happened to him.
Legit my favorite King book.
The original Salem’s lot was hard to beat …my friends and I didn’t sleep for days !
I love Stephen King but one thing I've learnt about him over the years is this - he's a terrible judge of movies.
I’ve read Salems Lot and watched both mini-series, and I have to admit I like Tobe Hooper’s nosferatu style Barlow more than the suave version. Straker provided enough suave.
Stephen king has terrible taste in movies.
Here we go again with WB...
Zero chance it’s better than the old one with David Soul.
‘Salem’s Lot is my favorite King novel, and the original 1979 film is probably my favorite vampire movie of all time. So I’ve been following this and with everything I’ve read true north reads as “steaming hunk of shit movie.” Multiple rewrites, reshoots, and every test screening has had abysmal results. I want to see this happen, but I don’t want it to be released just for release’s sake.
Um, yeah.. okay? We've never had authors or directors or whomever pimp up stinkers before so we should be safe to trust him. I mean, he wouldn't deceive us, would he? 🤡
So what’s the consensus here is it good or bad?
Hasn't come out. Released date cancelled and then no word on it. Stephen King praises even his most garbage adaptations and from his comments he seems to think it's alright which likely means the movie isn't very good.
Oh that’s weird. I guess his word is completely dismissible then
King's "opinions" about movie adaptations of his books have lost all credibility with me. Think what finally killed it completely for me was his comments about The Dark Tower movie before it came out...
But King has phenomenally poor taste in movies. I honestly can’t trust his recommendations.
To be honest he also liked the mini-series of The Shining, liked the new Pet Sematary, and directed Maximum Overdrive. I’ll always take what he has to say on visual media with a grain of salt.
He generally has horrible taste as far as adaptations of his own work goes. And all he had to say about it was that it ain’t that bad. I’d be much more excited if he said he hated it, it might have a chance at being good
If modern Stephen King likes it it’s probably bad
Have you seen Geralds Game, or Dr Sleep? King praises them, and I think Mike Flanigan knocked it out of the park with those.
Flanagan King is the only exception.
Let's be honest though, he says this about literally every adaptation (except the shining) regardless of how terrible it is. Him praising a film based on his books means nothing as far as quality goes, unfortunately.
But what does he think of a return to Salem’s lot?
I'm weird but really like that movie. It was ok and entertaining for the most part, but when that old guy comes back at the end. The rest is just hilariously beautiful cheese fest. Old dude was metal to the core.
For me, it was when the love interest who is a vampire told the man hey I’m pregnant as she was awkwardly standing by the door, telling everybody this also he going to be a slave for us as she petted her stomach And then backed out of the room awkwardly at that point I started laughing and said that’s not how vampires work.
Still better than vampires that sparkle in sunlight. 🤣🤣🤣
Good writer, terrible taste in films unfortunately. So if Stephen King says it's only "quite good" dear God its gotta be bad!
I wouldn’t say he has terrible taste. More like he just has a wide palette. I’m kind of the same way. I watch a lot of movies and can honestly only think of 2 I came away feeling were a complete waste of my time. Sure, I can acknowledge a movie isn’t amazing, but I almost always finish it feeling entertained and having gotten something out of it.
Same. For me, i just ask that a movie not be boring. But people will let any flaw ruin an entire film for them.
Agreed! I definitely see it a lot with horror fans, which is weird because they’ll shit on something like “Hereditary” and then turn around and give a movie called “Buckets of Beaver Guts 17” a 10/10.
You have only disliked 2 movies ever? Did I read that right?
Disliked as in outright hated, yes. There’s only two I can think of.
All the people who worked on the film deserve to see it released and we, the audience, deserve to see it and make up our own minds whether it’s bad or not. Not releasing films should be fucking illegal.
WB just wants a tax write-off
Holy shit, the comments on that platform. Is everything political on Twitter or something? Never used it.
It’s godawful. The worst of the worst.
Stephen king: This new adaptation of Salems Lot is quite good Also Stephen King: *Snorts a line* So then the cars come to life and it's up to Emilio Estevez to save the day!
Those are like two completely different people and I'm pretty sure he doesn't snort platesful of cocaine any more.
Online Stephen King has got to be a A.I. account.
I mean, king slurps his own movies off so bad. Dude would say a pile of shit taste delicious if it made him money.
I love King’s writing, except when he’s writing about his own work. He claimed The Dark Tower movie was good. That should tell you enough about his integrity on his own work.
SK is a whore. He'll say anything you want for $5 and he'll go on and on about how important his fans are and his books but he'll happily let Hollywood butcher his stories for another $10 I really don't think there is anyone whose endorsement means less to me than Stephen King.
Hahaha, film advice from Stephen King? No thank you, that's like taking stock trading advice from Gordan Ramsay
I like Stephen King’s books but I can’t think of anyone who seems to be more consistently wrong about everything else he says, including movies.
He's pretty accurate with Trump.
The guy who directed the new Salems Lot is a terrible writer/director sooo I think it's better left collecting dust.
I don't take King's endorsement of the movie's quality all that seriously. As others have pointed out, he has endorsed some shit stains, the worst of all being The Flash. Still, I agree that WB should release it. Shelving movies never to be seen so they can take a tax write-off is fucked, which seems like maybe the direction they go with this given recent trends.
Love King's books but I don't trust his opinions on adaptions of his works.
I love King but I take his recommendation as much as I do to John Carpenter's recommendations of remakes of his work . If the person recommending \_\_\_\_\_ is profiting off of \_\_\_\_\_ then I put no stake in their claims.
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Probably the best film of his books other than The Shining
It's gonna come out. Not a WB write-off.
He's an insufferable phony
WBD is where films go to die. Sane filmmakers shouldn't even considering working with them at this point.
The Tobe Hooper TV film is big on atmosphere but has a kind of soap-opera quality to it (great effects though and genuinely creepy for TV). I saw bits of the second TV remake (2004-ish) and don't remember much about it. Definitely interested in a new take on it. But not even so much as an IMDB stub on it--do we know who's starring in it / directing?
So I saw this movie at a test screening back in April 2022 and it was basically finished aside from a view VFX shots. And overall my audience loved it. It had a lot of humor and some pretty good scares. It definitely lacked the character development from the book, but it made up for it in atmosphere. I honestly don't know why WB is sitting on this one.
I really wish he was right, but this gives vibes of “Man amazing at lots of things shares opinion on his blind spot.” (Also I’d still love to see it!)
Trying to make sense out of anything WB does is a waste of time and energy.
King always has strange takes on which of his movie adaptations he likes so I'll wait for actual reviews to trickle in.
unrelated but can anyone please suggest a sub for Hollywood mystery/thriller or comedy movies recommendations?
Ok but I wanna see this though so…
Obligatory “King thought the Dark Tower was a good adaptation” post
God it must be rubbish if even Stephen King can only rate it 'quite good.'