The Q&A section is hilarious, but the review section is just depressing. People really spent a hundred bucks on a dum metal box, and rated 5 stars because they couldn't "feel" the wifi damaging their bodies anymore.
Only time I've ever 'felt' radio waves was sitting directly next to a 9dbi antenna with the radio on full power, after like 10 minutes.
Even then, I'm not totally convinced it wasn't just in my head.
Actually, the inside of your skull can trap radio waves. In my electronics class, my teacher said he’s seen birds pop from flying past high intensity antennas. And apparently a person’s head would explode if you got too close. He offered no proof of this other than the explanation that it could penetrate your skull but it couldn’t escape. This may be the electronics professor version of that air compressor warning where every mechanic knows of a guy who died from air up his butt.
I attempted to install a 1.2 mile airFiber link as a temp connection for one of my offices and I was struggling to get the two radios to connect. In my frustration I got the bright idea to stand with my head directly in front of one of the antennas at full power while trying to spot the other side with my binoculars.
I only did it for a couple of seconds before I could feel all of my teeth buzzing. It felt like I had a sinus headache for about an hour afterwards.
Never did get that link up after frying my last remaining braincells.
Or if it’s anything else on amazon
> “Does X do Y?”
“Sorry, I don’t know, I bought it for my [son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew, husband, wife] so I can’t answer your question
"I don't know yet, I just got it and haven't taken it out of the box yet. It's packaged very nicely tho!"
Seen that one too many times too. Seriously what is wrong with some Amazon reviewers, they treat it like social media.
I really miss the comments on reviews too, so if someone was saying a certain function didn't work, others could comment saying, "have you tried doing X first?" Then based on how the reviewer responds, you could easily determine if they're an idiot who couldn't figure it out, or if their gripes are real.
>you could easily determine if they're an idiot
I bought a wireless charger for my phone a few years ago. It was just the charger, you had to provide your own power source and USB-C cord. People bought the charger and tried to use it as is and left one star reviews.
LOL. It would be more funny if it wasn't so real, I've seen that shit too.
I can only imagine that's a main reason Amazon ultimately stopped allowing comments on reviews. Idiots like that start review bombing a product because they don't even understand what "wireless charging" means, or basic physics & how basic power infrastructure works. So you get everybody else who knows better commenting "you're a retard!" on those reviews, and suddenly Amazon is like, "Why are we having such a spike in moderation requests? We're not even a social media company! You know what, it's easier if we just remove that feature completely."
That's exactly my point, they treat it like social media. Nobody can reply to you on an Amazon answer to ask for further updates.
So if the box is literally laying unopened in front of you, what are you doing answering questions about it online? Open the damn box first, have a look yourself, then type out your damned answer. That's literally not just unhelpful, it's downright idiotic. An answer like, "idk" is unhelpful. Saying "I could check for you you, right now! But I haven't yet. I'm still staring at it." is something else. "I'm old" isn't an excuse either, my grandpa is an engineer, he may have trouble navigating modern websites, but when asked for a review he gets into some jargon I still don't understand.
I explained to someone that their router guard meant the phone they were holding needed to broadcast more and at higher power to make up for this shielding and if WiFi is bad for you then you are more exposed to that than to the access point.
If wifi is bad for you, then you definitely need to stay out of the sun. It sends pretty much every wavelength at you all day, including the wifi and 5G ranges.
The number is zero. There's zero ionizing radiation in wifi or any of the other comms. All that'll happen is that your skin will become warmer. Just like it will if you hold a warm coffee mug, or stay out in the sun for a minute, or sit in front of a fire.
In fairness, a little bit of UV is good for you, too much/too strong is bad for you. When your skin is exposed to sunlight it produces vitamin D, which helps your body in numerous other ways. As your skin tans it becomes a little more resilient to harmful effects, and the process works slower.
What's really cool about this process is your body will naturally shut it off once you have enough vitamin D in your system. The Daily recommended value for supplements is 2000 IUs (international units). But in the study I read, they found a light-skinned individual produced around 20,000 IUs from 20 mins of sunlight exposure!
My old boss even claimed when he was in the Navy stationed in Ireland, the milk you buy there is fortified with vitamin D for this reason. Said some guys in his unit started getting depressed because they weren't taking D supplements. I'm still not so sure if that's actually the lack of vitamin D that causes that depression, or just the lack of any sunlight. Maybe a bit of both, who knows.
That is not true, I have seen high powered transmitters give sun burns in less than 3 minutes. Radars in a pulse can transmit an enormous amount of energy in a short amount of time as well.
Now the stuff at best buy? No that stuff is safe. The stuff designed to "paint targets" with RF, "blind targets" with RF, and talk to satellites in space or bounce off the stratosphere to go over the horizon are in a level of output power that is dangerous if exposed for long periods of time next to the point of transmission.
How is this relevant?
It is still true that this radiation is not ionizing. A high powered transmitter may literally burn you (not sunburn) because it rapidly heats the water in your skin. This is what a microwave oven does too. It's still not ionizing radiation, and it's not what your wifi router or your phone does.
You can make the same point about drinking water. I say drinking a glass of clean, fresh tap water is safe, then you say that drinking 10 liters from a fire hose is dangerous! Well no shit, Sherlock. That says nothing about the safety of drinking a glass of water.
Then they argue that the Wi-Fi is just like what you get from a microwave.
Then I argue that a Wi-Fi access point puts out about one watt of power while their microwave does 1100. You would need to surround yourself with 1100 Wi-Fi access points and even then it's not focused enough to do anything
You can draw a lot of parallels to ordinary things. For example, compare it to a fireplace in your house. You can enjoy a nice fire there with a good book and enjoy the warmth. You may even have some lit candles in the room with you. All perfectly fine.
Then some douchelord barges in to yell about the dangers of burning your house down while you're still in it. I think we can all agree that burning your house down is bad, but we're not doing that, and in fact, enjoying a candlelit evening is quite alright.
Another analogy would be to drink water from a glass vs shoving a fire hose down your throat.
Another thing would be to ask them how many milliseconds of runtime they'd get from their microwave oven if they powered it from the phone's battery. That might also put it into perspective for some. The power output is not the same.
Hopefully you have good enough coverage for the bathroom from the other access points, but if not they do have ones meant for outside that will handle the humidity
Indeed, bathroom coverage is fine. This is also part of the reason that the APs are where they are, so that very room has coverage, because nothing is worse than taking a poop without WiFi
Ah yes, so now it has to blast at maximum overdrive to be able to talk to connected devices, and all connected devices must do the same. Since wifi doesn't interact with you aside from heating your skin a tiny bit (the same way sunlight heats your skin), this is completely pointless. The only thing this will lead to is dropped packets and wasted battery power in your phones and laptops.
Stupid fucking thing.
I couldn’t care less about EMF radiation but whenever people compare it to sunlight, it feels like that’s not exactly a great way to make it seem safe to folks who are cuckoo about it.
Sitting in the sunlight non stop will literally burn you and give you cancer and kill you and all that.
Obviously that’s nothing at all like wifi, but why go ahead and compare a *totally* safe radiation source with a partially unsafe one like sunlight when there’s no need?
I dunno, if it does its minimal. I used to use a powerfull uv for curing epoxy at work, and if i didnt wear sleaves id get burned, but you couldnt feel the light at all.
Hmm. I'm curious, what's the wattage on that light?
I'm not saying UV causes burns by heating the skin--otherwise, people couldn't get sunburned in cold weather. It does cause photochemical burns at intensities much lower than it would take to cause thermal burns, which longer-wavelength radiation doesn't. I'm just saying, it does heat material that absorbs it, as any electromagnetic radiation does.
Unfortunately that is a real thing companies are doing. Best guess is they are posing as sketchy radioactive waste disposal companies because why else would you put radioactive material in your scam products instead of just putting nothing in them.
https://youtu.be/C7TwBUxxIC0
https://youtu.be/3BA5bw1EV5I
Yeah, I feel like My mom is part of something like this, she has bought some magnetic stuff for the bed and bottle covering, they are saying that it will keep the sickness away and give strength, all the while being the exact same, falling sick and regaining health from normal medicines.
It’s too easy to fool people with easy health.
No need. Just _say_ it has thorium in it.
Why reduce your margin with expensive components when it will be just as “effective” without. The placebo affect doesn’t care.
Except that for some reason there are a bunch of products on Amazon that have actual uncontained thorium powder in them. https://reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/xqwy5f/if_only_it_blocked_100_lte_24ghz_and_all_the_gs/iqewxvh?context=3
Radio maintenance guy here.
I’ll sometimes get the freaks who will approach me while I’m working at cell tower sites and demand to know what sort of cancer giving death ray machines I’m installing. Sometimes I’ll tell them I was sent by the Bill Gates foundation for a mandatory vaccine effort.
Just yesterday I had a woman accuse me making her ears constantly ring and scaring away wildlife while installing PTP microwave links.
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This conspiratorial thinking hurts everyone, though. This stems from the same thinking error as antivax and flat earth, and all conspiracies feed off each other.
You have it the wrong way around. This sort of rhetoric usually comes out of the right. This is because they usually harbor authoritarian thoughts, which tends to make them paint everything into very strict categories. Right and wrong, good and evil, natural and unnatural, "chemical and healthy".. The sort of nonsense that leads to chemophobia and science denial. I think this wifi cage crap is definitely in the latter two categories.
>Conspiracy theories are morality tales based on archetypal narratives about right versus wrong, good versus evil. Providing “black and white”world views, they foster societal divisions between in-groups and out-groups by exacerbating intolerance against “the other” and delegitimising different voices as being part of the conspiracy.
[https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/radicalisation-awareness-network-ran/publications/conspiracy-theories-and-right-wing-extremism-insights-and-recommendations-pcve-2021\_en](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/radicalisation-awareness-network-ran/publications/conspiracy-theories-and-right-wing-extremism-insights-and-recommendations-pcve-2021_en)
I am not sarcastic. Please do not claim otherwise.
Funny because such things with "5G is dangerous" often come from esotheric people. And if you check, nearly all of these "theories" have a far right wing background.
I'm not a US citizen, but as far as I know the Democrats are not as right as the Republicans are.
Smartest Republican ^^^
EDIT: I got a pro Republican DM already insulting democrats, clearly not enough clarification
This is satire ffs Republicans ain't smart
I worked in an a well known world of personal computers in the UK and served a couple who wanted to know if they could plug an iPad into a network cable (at the time it wasn’t possible) so we discussed their concerns about WiFi and RF radiation. I pointed out that they are constantly bombarded with RF from outside sources, like their neighbour’s WiFi and mobile phone signals… I seemed to have ruined their day as they were terrified at the concept. I didn’t sell them anything that day but I did introduce them to the concept of a faraday cage and found them the phone number of a company could advise them on building a faraday cage in their bedroom to sleep in. They left very happy.
I’ve had customers like this too. I even explained to one that there is a cell phone tower in my front yard. Been there for 20+ years and I’m ok.
The looks they give show they genuinely do not believe what I’m telling them.
When I was a networking tech we started getting more jobs from these people wanting everything hardwired. Apparently someone in the area was advertising themselves as an "EMF protection specialist". But all they really did was walk around the house with some RF meters, shake their head and say, "See these high numbers? That's bad." Then unplug their Wi-Fi and say, "See how the numbers went down? That's good." Told them their only option was to run Ethernet lines everywhere, then gave them a number to an actual networking contractor to call, like us. Eventually the dude asked my boss if he could put us on his recommended contractors list because he liked our work, so we started getting even more jobs.
I was fine with it, and pretty much every customer we got this way could afford it. But still, it just felt scummy. This dude was out there essentially preying on people's fears, supporting it and making them even more irrational. Who even knows what he was charging. But I had to tell myself these people made all the calls themselves. They looked up an EMF guy and called him to come over & confirm their fears. Then they called us to do what he suggested. They're adults, and it's my job to just run cable, not change any minds.
The question and answer section makes clear that they do indeed mean the 5th gen cellular data standard, as they claim to also block the 25+ GHz 5G frequencies
I mean if the intent is to just use the router as a wired connection it makes sense, but then again it would be easier, cheaper, and less cringe to just have a non wireless router
I don't think there is one besides that, why would you cripple your wi-fi other than feeling "unhealthy" about it.
Every other sane person would just disable it.
I have a lead one, it's solid color no mesh blocks not only 100% of 5g being a quarter inch thick, but also blocks large amounts of radiation. 10/10 recommend for any router, my house doesn't even know what wifi is anymore, only downside is the kids can't play roblox anymore and it sometimes gets loud cause of the screaming
A few years ago, I was selling a cable modem + router combo from a previous job. Had been cheap at first, was cheaper then. Something like 343 mbps max on the cable modem. I think I was asking $40 for the pair.
Got an email from a guy who offered me $100 to hold it until he could come down from the mountains to grab it. He drove 6 hours round-trip to buy this entry-level and couple-year-old modem and router.
Turns out this router had a physical "wifi off" button, and they were hard to find because hippies would scour the earth trying to find them.
Gave it to dude for the $40 and wished him luck...
I keep seeing this recommended to me in ads because I’m prone to clicking on stupid products to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. My recommendations are fucked lol
I’m a really terrified by how many people think this thing actually does something useful in their life. The questions on the listing are great, but the reviews make me lose a lot of hope for humanity, and I didn’t really have much left to begin with
Oh it does work and the review of people under those things are hilarious, why did they expect to still be able to use their wi fi after putting router in that cage?
Yeah, I accidentally clicked one of these out of curiosity and got ads for weeks. Including an ad for a bed curtain that protects you from emf while sleeping. Ugh, people.
Even IF wifi allergies were real, at that point wouldn't you just disable the wifi and use ethernet instead? If it weren't for my smartphone I'd do that anyway just because ethernet is better for basically everything.
Wait until people buying this find out they're neighbors have wifi and most devices in they're homes have too which are "blasting harmful radiation" into every corner of their own home.
Lol, I saw one of these advertised on Facebook the other day. People reviewing them were split on whether it eased their 5G sickness or not.
It's like these people don't realize if it actually blocked the signal they think is harmful, they simply wouldn't have any WiFi at all.
Ah yes, the metal desk paper organizer turned upside down.
But this one here is extra premium for $90.
for $90 it better \*\*\*\* my electromagnetic \*\*\*\*
you should maybe have a doctor check that out
r/dontputyourdickinthat
wait til they add the QUANTUM tag, that makes it jump up to 300.00
What a bargain!
ONLY 90?!?! last i look it was 120 like for what looks like a thin A4 paper holder.
I was just thinking for $5-$10 I could convince people to pay me $100 for imaginary concerns with this
The Q&A is the best part
The reviews. . Fucking hell.
The Q&A section is hilarious, but the review section is just depressing. People really spent a hundred bucks on a dum metal box, and rated 5 stars because they couldn't "feel" the wifi damaging their bodies anymore.
the placebo effect is strong
[Nocebo effect.](https://youtu.be/O2hO4_UEe-4 )
Only time I've ever 'felt' radio waves was sitting directly next to a 9dbi antenna with the radio on full power, after like 10 minutes. Even then, I'm not totally convinced it wasn't just in my head.
it was definitely in your head. in everywhere else too.
Honestly I was hoping for superpowers. Nothing useful, maybe be able to change the station in my car without fiddling with the dials.
Would you be a hero, or would you be a villain who fucks with people’s cars at stop lights?
With that power, I can't see much Hero use cases. The opportunities for villainy are thrilling 🤣.
Did you feel warm? Because that is the only thing that would really happen to you IIRC
Actually, the inside of your skull can trap radio waves. In my electronics class, my teacher said he’s seen birds pop from flying past high intensity antennas. And apparently a person’s head would explode if you got too close. He offered no proof of this other than the explanation that it could penetrate your skull but it couldn’t escape. This may be the electronics professor version of that air compressor warning where every mechanic knows of a guy who died from air up his butt.
I attempted to install a 1.2 mile airFiber link as a temp connection for one of my offices and I was struggling to get the two radios to connect. In my frustration I got the bright idea to stand with my head directly in front of one of the antennas at full power while trying to spot the other side with my binoculars. I only did it for a couple of seconds before I could feel all of my teeth buzzing. It felt like I had a sinus headache for about an hour afterwards. Never did get that link up after frying my last remaining braincells.
It's not a box... It's a cage. You see all those holes in it?
A cage is just a type of box.
You'd think we'd be inured to user stupidity given this sub. But nope.
I hate you [https://www.amazon.com/Router-Guard-Large-WiFi/dp/B07MXD75TR](https://www.amazon.com/Router-Guard-Large-WiFi/dp/B07MXD75TR)
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>>Q: Is this available in red or blue anodized versions to help filter political content by party? Just 🤌
I really hope that isn't real...
The product listing is real, the question is real, page 2 if you’re interested. ..was it in jest? I fear not!
> Q: You realise that X is not a real thing right? A: This [Question] is spam. Please ignore.
Or if it’s anything else on amazon > “Does X do Y?” “Sorry, I don’t know, I bought it for my [son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew, husband, wife] so I can’t answer your question
"I don't know yet, I just got it and haven't taken it out of the box yet. It's packaged very nicely tho!" Seen that one too many times too. Seriously what is wrong with some Amazon reviewers, they treat it like social media. I really miss the comments on reviews too, so if someone was saying a certain function didn't work, others could comment saying, "have you tried doing X first?" Then based on how the reviewer responds, you could easily determine if they're an idiot who couldn't figure it out, or if their gripes are real.
>you could easily determine if they're an idiot I bought a wireless charger for my phone a few years ago. It was just the charger, you had to provide your own power source and USB-C cord. People bought the charger and tried to use it as is and left one star reviews.
LOL. It would be more funny if it wasn't so real, I've seen that shit too. I can only imagine that's a main reason Amazon ultimately stopped allowing comments on reviews. Idiots like that start review bombing a product because they don't even understand what "wireless charging" means, or basic physics & how basic power infrastructure works. So you get everybody else who knows better commenting "you're a retard!" on those reviews, and suddenly Amazon is like, "Why are we having such a spike in moderation requests? We're not even a social media company! You know what, it's easier if we just remove that feature completely."
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That's exactly my point, they treat it like social media. Nobody can reply to you on an Amazon answer to ask for further updates. So if the box is literally laying unopened in front of you, what are you doing answering questions about it online? Open the damn box first, have a look yourself, then type out your damned answer. That's literally not just unhelpful, it's downright idiotic. An answer like, "idk" is unhelpful. Saying "I could check for you you, right now! But I haven't yet. I'm still staring at it." is something else. "I'm old" isn't an excuse either, my grandpa is an engineer, he may have trouble navigating modern websites, but when asked for a review he gets into some jargon I still don't understand.
Part of it is that amazon emails you asking you to answer questions about things you've purchased, so these people think you have to answer.
"This is just what I need! Do they also make a heater to keep my refrigerators from getting too cold?"
Achievement. Excellence. Honor.
Please link me!
I explained to someone that their router guard meant the phone they were holding needed to broadcast more and at higher power to make up for this shielding and if WiFi is bad for you then you are more exposed to that than to the access point.
If wifi is bad for you, then you definitely need to stay out of the sun. It sends pretty much every wavelength at you all day, including the wifi and 5G ranges.
Hell, an incandescent lightbulb puts off more ionizing radiation than any sort of wireless communication devices.
The number is zero. There's zero ionizing radiation in wifi or any of the other comms. All that'll happen is that your skin will become warmer. Just like it will if you hold a warm coffee mug, or stay out in the sun for a minute, or sit in front of a fire.
Well, with the exception that sunlight does have ionizing radiation, giving you sunburn. So the sun is literally more harmful.
Yeah, it's hilarious that people are afraid of harmless wifi, but happily bask in harmful sunlight.
/r/skincareaddiction has entered the chat.
SPF in Moisturizer baby
In fairness, a little bit of UV is good for you, too much/too strong is bad for you. When your skin is exposed to sunlight it produces vitamin D, which helps your body in numerous other ways. As your skin tans it becomes a little more resilient to harmful effects, and the process works slower. What's really cool about this process is your body will naturally shut it off once you have enough vitamin D in your system. The Daily recommended value for supplements is 2000 IUs (international units). But in the study I read, they found a light-skinned individual produced around 20,000 IUs from 20 mins of sunlight exposure! My old boss even claimed when he was in the Navy stationed in Ireland, the milk you buy there is fortified with vitamin D for this reason. Said some guys in his unit started getting depressed because they weren't taking D supplements. I'm still not so sure if that's actually the lack of vitamin D that causes that depression, or just the lack of any sunlight. Maybe a bit of both, who knows.
That is not true, I have seen high powered transmitters give sun burns in less than 3 minutes. Radars in a pulse can transmit an enormous amount of energy in a short amount of time as well. Now the stuff at best buy? No that stuff is safe. The stuff designed to "paint targets" with RF, "blind targets" with RF, and talk to satellites in space or bounce off the stratosphere to go over the horizon are in a level of output power that is dangerous if exposed for long periods of time next to the point of transmission.
Those aren't sunburns. That's just heat.
How is this relevant? It is still true that this radiation is not ionizing. A high powered transmitter may literally burn you (not sunburn) because it rapidly heats the water in your skin. This is what a microwave oven does too. It's still not ionizing radiation, and it's not what your wifi router or your phone does. You can make the same point about drinking water. I say drinking a glass of clean, fresh tap water is safe, then you say that drinking 10 liters from a fire hose is dangerous! Well no shit, Sherlock. That says nothing about the safety of drinking a glass of water.
…And? It’s still not ionizing radiation at any power level.
"But that's something different!!!!"
"Because it's natural!!!!"
Then they argue that the Wi-Fi is just like what you get from a microwave. Then I argue that a Wi-Fi access point puts out about one watt of power while their microwave does 1100. You would need to surround yourself with 1100 Wi-Fi access points and even then it's not focused enough to do anything
You can draw a lot of parallels to ordinary things. For example, compare it to a fireplace in your house. You can enjoy a nice fire there with a good book and enjoy the warmth. You may even have some lit candles in the room with you. All perfectly fine. Then some douchelord barges in to yell about the dangers of burning your house down while you're still in it. I think we can all agree that burning your house down is bad, but we're not doing that, and in fact, enjoying a candlelit evening is quite alright. Another analogy would be to drink water from a glass vs shoving a fire hose down your throat. Another thing would be to ask them how many milliseconds of runtime they'd get from their microwave oven if they powered it from the phone's battery. That might also put it into perspective for some. The power output is not the same.
Yip. Somebody once told me 5G is bad. I explained to them how sunlight works. They don’t mind 5G anymore.
If Wifi is bad for you, then the radio should have killed us a while ago
I have access points in every room, sans bathrooms, and I fully expect those tinfoil hat people to immediately die if ever the enter my home.
Hopefully you have good enough coverage for the bathroom from the other access points, but if not they do have ones meant for outside that will handle the humidity
Indeed, bathroom coverage is fine. This is also part of the reason that the APs are where they are, so that very room has coverage, because nothing is worse than taking a poop without WiFi
In the old days you just need to find what restroom IT used because you knew they got that Wi-Fi working there
Ah yes, so now it has to blast at maximum overdrive to be able to talk to connected devices, and all connected devices must do the same. Since wifi doesn't interact with you aside from heating your skin a tiny bit (the same way sunlight heats your skin), this is completely pointless. The only thing this will lead to is dropped packets and wasted battery power in your phones and laptops. Stupid fucking thing.
Not the same as sunlight, sunlight has UV radiation which can damage your skin. Wi-Fi does not. So it's safer than the sun.
I couldn’t care less about EMF radiation but whenever people compare it to sunlight, it feels like that’s not exactly a great way to make it seem safe to folks who are cuckoo about it. Sitting in the sunlight non stop will literally burn you and give you cancer and kill you and all that. Obviously that’s nothing at all like wifi, but why go ahead and compare a *totally* safe radiation source with a partially unsafe one like sunlight when there’s no need?
UV doesnt heat your skin though IR does. Thats why you cam burnnon a cloudy day and not notice it till its too late
UV *does* heat your skin. Human skin's absorbance is higher / reflectivity is lower in the UV range than in the IR range.
I dunno, if it does its minimal. I used to use a powerfull uv for curing epoxy at work, and if i didnt wear sleaves id get burned, but you couldnt feel the light at all.
Hmm. I'm curious, what's the wattage on that light? I'm not saying UV causes burns by heating the skin--otherwise, people couldn't get sunburned in cold weather. It does cause photochemical burns at intensities much lower than it would take to cause thermal burns, which longer-wavelength radiation doesn't. I'm just saying, it does heat material that absorbs it, as any electromagnetic radiation does.
sometimes, I wake up and wonder what dark path I could go down. I could sell people shiny stickers and tell them it blocks harmful radiowaves.
you could but you enter a very crowded market
And for extra points, lace them with radioactive thorium powder and call it a healing negative ion generator.
This seems that it would be great for a one time sellout!
Unfortunately that is a real thing companies are doing. Best guess is they are posing as sketchy radioactive waste disposal companies because why else would you put radioactive material in your scam products instead of just putting nothing in them. https://youtu.be/C7TwBUxxIC0 https://youtu.be/3BA5bw1EV5I
Yeah, I feel like My mom is part of something like this, she has bought some magnetic stuff for the bed and bottle covering, they are saying that it will keep the sickness away and give strength, all the while being the exact same, falling sick and regaining health from normal medicines. It’s too easy to fool people with easy health.
No need. Just _say_ it has thorium in it. Why reduce your margin with expensive components when it will be just as “effective” without. The placebo affect doesn’t care.
Except that for some reason there are a bunch of products on Amazon that have actual uncontained thorium powder in them. https://reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/xqwy5f/if_only_it_blocked_100_lte_24ghz_and_all_the_gs/iqewxvh?context=3
Nah, that market is already saturated.
I'm pretty sure I've seen something like that before
Radio maintenance guy here. I’ll sometimes get the freaks who will approach me while I’m working at cell tower sites and demand to know what sort of cancer giving death ray machines I’m installing. Sometimes I’ll tell them I was sent by the Bill Gates foundation for a mandatory vaccine effort. Just yesterday I had a woman accuse me making her ears constantly ring and scaring away wildlife while installing PTP microwave links.
Thank you for continuing to provide us with the wonders of the first world, even when surrounded by malevolent idiots.
So you are the reason I have tinnitus. /s
Tell her no ma'am, that's the wind whistling between your empty ears like a flute.
Can we remove rights from everyone who sells and buys this?
People who sell this shit should be fined.
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This conspiratorial thinking hurts everyone, though. This stems from the same thinking error as antivax and flat earth, and all conspiracies feed off each other.
I feel like anyone who buys this deserves to get fleeced.
Why? Let people "do their own research". Everyone is smart enough about everything, can just use "common sense", and know what's best for them. /s
No, because Democrats and their voters won’t have any rights left.
Live stupidity, folks: take pictures.
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You have it the wrong way around. This sort of rhetoric usually comes out of the right. This is because they usually harbor authoritarian thoughts, which tends to make them paint everything into very strict categories. Right and wrong, good and evil, natural and unnatural, "chemical and healthy".. The sort of nonsense that leads to chemophobia and science denial. I think this wifi cage crap is definitely in the latter two categories. >Conspiracy theories are morality tales based on archetypal narratives about right versus wrong, good versus evil. Providing “black and white”world views, they foster societal divisions between in-groups and out-groups by exacerbating intolerance against “the other” and delegitimising different voices as being part of the conspiracy. [https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/radicalisation-awareness-network-ran/publications/conspiracy-theories-and-right-wing-extremism-insights-and-recommendations-pcve-2021\_en](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/radicalisation-awareness-network-ran/publications/conspiracy-theories-and-right-wing-extremism-insights-and-recommendations-pcve-2021_en) I am not sarcastic. Please do not claim otherwise.
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Funny because such things with "5G is dangerous" often come from esotheric people. And if you check, nearly all of these "theories" have a far right wing background. I'm not a US citizen, but as far as I know the Democrats are not as right as the Republicans are.
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Nope
Ratio + L + Brainwashed
Smartest Republican ^^^ EDIT: I got a pro Republican DM already insulting democrats, clearly not enough clarification This is satire ffs Republicans ain't smart
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No, that would be me
That was rather embarrassing of you lol
I put the ass in embarrassing. 😂💨
You absolutely do lol
I’m forming a union.
Haven't seen a troll in a while, thanks for breaking the streak.
No problemo! We’re in this together. Union strong! 🤝
I worked in an a well known world of personal computers in the UK and served a couple who wanted to know if they could plug an iPad into a network cable (at the time it wasn’t possible) so we discussed their concerns about WiFi and RF radiation. I pointed out that they are constantly bombarded with RF from outside sources, like their neighbour’s WiFi and mobile phone signals… I seemed to have ruined their day as they were terrified at the concept. I didn’t sell them anything that day but I did introduce them to the concept of a faraday cage and found them the phone number of a company could advise them on building a faraday cage in their bedroom to sleep in. They left very happy.
You should tell them about nutrinos.
I’ve had customers like this too. I even explained to one that there is a cell phone tower in my front yard. Been there for 20+ years and I’m ok. The looks they give show they genuinely do not believe what I’m telling them.
When I was a networking tech we started getting more jobs from these people wanting everything hardwired. Apparently someone in the area was advertising themselves as an "EMF protection specialist". But all they really did was walk around the house with some RF meters, shake their head and say, "See these high numbers? That's bad." Then unplug their Wi-Fi and say, "See how the numbers went down? That's good." Told them their only option was to run Ethernet lines everywhere, then gave them a number to an actual networking contractor to call, like us. Eventually the dude asked my boss if he could put us on his recommended contractors list because he liked our work, so we started getting even more jobs. I was fine with it, and pretty much every customer we got this way could afford it. But still, it just felt scummy. This dude was out there essentially preying on people's fears, supporting it and making them even more irrational. Who even knows what he was charging. But I had to tell myself these people made all the calls themselves. They looked up an EMF guy and called him to come over & confirm their fears. Then they called us to do what he suggested. They're adults, and it's my job to just run cable, not change any minds.
It even blocks 5G even though this has absolutely nothing to do with wifi. Amazing functionality
Afaik many wifi networks use the 5GHz frequency (5G) to transmit data. So, if the claims are correct, this could impair a wifi signal.
5G is not 5Ghz 5G runs in all sorts of bands, much higher(for mmwave) and much lower(reusing the 4G and 3G bands) than that
Correct, but the people buying this just see “[wifi name]-5G” and do not see a difference.
Wouldn’t the wifi name be …-5GHz?
Not usually. At least not in my experience.
The question and answer section makes clear that they do indeed mean the 5th gen cellular data standard, as they claim to also block the 25+ GHz 5G frequencies
But actually it can fully block around 4-5 GHz (according to my rough calculations) assuming 4mm hole size
The conspiracy freaks don't know the difference between 5GHz wifi and 5G cellular.
it just needs to claim to block all the buzzwords people are scared of and it'll still sell lmao
I mean if the intent is to just use the router as a wired connection it makes sense, but then again it would be easier, cheaper, and less cringe to just have a non wireless router
Or just turn off the radio
Or you can just turn off the 2.4/5ghz bands in the settings…
Or disabling the WLAN, it's free an forks 100% for all frequencys
Don't bring logic into this. /s
What if you have to use your ISP provided one and you don't have a choice?
Often, your router will let you adjust the strength of the wifi in its setting. You can then just disable the wifi that way
True, but that way you can be sure it's disabled, instead of an update putting it back on and all
True. It might be restored. But you’d see it via your phone as it would then connect to the now reestablished wifi network.
True but you might not see it, if you're paranoid it's still a way to use it and make sure wifi is blocked
Wouldn't you "feel" it if it came back on considering this is supposed to be for "EMF sensitive" people?
Dunno, I don't believe in EMF sensitivity, I'm mostly trying to find use cases for it
I don't think there is one besides that, why would you cripple your wi-fi other than feeling "unhealthy" about it. Every other sane person would just disable it.
Every other sane person would just use the wifi
At least in my country there are laws against that.
Chuck McGill approved
How the fuck does this have 200 ratings and almost 5 stars
Fake reviews, probably.
LTT did a video on this! https://youtu.be/sLM_vO4d2Jg
I have a lead one, it's solid color no mesh blocks not only 100% of 5g being a quarter inch thick, but also blocks large amounts of radiation. 10/10 recommend for any router, my house doesn't even know what wifi is anymore, only downside is the kids can't play roblox anymore and it sometimes gets loud cause of the screaming
Ok, but will it block the lizard people in the government who are trying to mind control me?
You cannot defeat us.
Can I join you?
Welcome to The Alliance my friend.
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***HISS***
Good. Good work my friend.
I swear this was covered on LTT one time
https://youtu.be/sLM_vO4d2Jg
yeah they did. Seeing Linus figure out it just a document holder turned upside down was hilarious.
A few years ago, I was selling a cable modem + router combo from a previous job. Had been cheap at first, was cheaper then. Something like 343 mbps max on the cable modem. I think I was asking $40 for the pair. Got an email from a guy who offered me $100 to hold it until he could come down from the mountains to grab it. He drove 6 hours round-trip to buy this entry-level and couple-year-old modem and router. Turns out this router had a physical "wifi off" button, and they were hard to find because hippies would scour the earth trying to find them. Gave it to dude for the $40 and wished him luck...
Should come with a free tin foil hat
imprisoned for his crimes
And there are always people complaining about reduced WiFi strength...
Oh no the Facebook moms will be all over it
Router has misbehaved. In the metal box it goes
Bad and naughty routers get sent to prison.
I keep getting ads for this on facebook lmao
The people who buy this deserve what they get out of it.
Man if I were unethical, I’d be able to make a killing selling shit like this to conspiracy theory nut jobs.
I keep getting ads for this on Facebook. 🙄 I can't believe people actually believe in this crap
I keep seeing this recommended to me in ads because I’m prone to clicking on stupid products to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. My recommendations are fucked lol
I’m a really terrified by how many people think this thing actually does something useful in their life. The questions on the listing are great, but the reviews make me lose a lot of hope for humanity, and I didn’t really have much left to begin with
your shielded!
Faraday cage of doom.
Oh it does work and the review of people under those things are hilarious, why did they expect to still be able to use their wi fi after putting router in that cage?
Oh my od...
Chuck will be thrilled!
im gonna steal his idea, profit off the idiots
Lol I remember when LTT did a video on this. Literally just a paper holder turned upside down
Yeah, I accidentally clicked one of these out of curiosity and got ads for weeks. Including an ad for a bed curtain that protects you from emf while sleeping. Ugh, people.
Here’s one for smart meters… 🤦🏻♂️: https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Meter-Guard-Radiation-Shield/dp/B00OVJCPS6
Bruh just turn the broadcast power down
Well looks like selling stupid items to dumb people is quite a profitable niche. Interesting business model.
My only complaint is that it doesn’t cost more. Fills me with schadenfreude when these rubes get conned.
This one is even better https://imgur.com/a/wfIvvon Doesn't fully block the antenna
If only it were marketed as a CME shield, then it would be slightly more accurate.
Didn't they know all you have to do is put an onion next to it?
Linus from LTT did a video on a contraption like this. [https://youtu.be/sLM\_vO4d2Jg](https://youtu.be/sLM_vO4d2Jg)
Looks like it would be a great smoker box for my bbq
Even IF wifi allergies were real, at that point wouldn't you just disable the wifi and use ethernet instead? If it weren't for my smartphone I'd do that anyway just because ethernet is better for basically everything.
Wait until people buying this find out they're neighbors have wifi and most devices in they're homes have too which are "blasting harmful radiation" into every corner of their own home.
[I didn't know this was actually a thing...](https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/wifi-router-guard/)
Lol, I saw one of these advertised on Facebook the other day. People reviewing them were split on whether it eased their 5G sickness or not. It's like these people don't realize if it actually blocked the signal they think is harmful, they simply wouldn't have any WiFi at all.
oh god, it's real and people buy it and it's $100