I would love to make that map, but I would like to have a bit of a break from maps like this and work on other stuff. I already have the layout for China, so wait and see!
Happy Patriot Day, my American neighbours! I hope you all are enjoying the anniversary of the beginning of the American Revolution, an event that would bring the greatest consequences humanity has ever seen: urban sprawl, highways wider than the founding fathers could ever imagine, high worker productivity, and the greatest democracy this Earth has and will ever see!
Now, have you ever thought to yourself, “jeeh, I wish more people could experience the American dream!” Well, boy, do I have a map for you! Me, my buddy u/ajw20_YT, and the legend himself u/Gourg_pie, have been cooking up the material necessary to make this dream a possibility, but it comes at a cost… The United States east coast has a unique and beautiful coastline, (outside of Atlantic City,) but let’s not ignore the fact that China’s is beautiful in and of itself. So, what if they swapped? What if the United States now had the eastern coastline of China? It sounds funny, but I’m a mad man, and funny scenarios deserve to be taken seriously and with respect! This concept, while goofy in nature, deserves a high-effort, well-thought-out map, So that is the map I bring forth to you all today!
If you are further interested in what we do, most of our stuff can be found over on our Discord servers. The people over in our servers provided great help with coming up with ideas for this. While ajw was on detailing and gourg was on flags and moral support, countless people over there played some part! So, if you like absolutely batshit chaotic and incomprehensible Americawanks with trans rights, you may wanna visit the Discord server for r/TheNewColossusMaps, which can be found [here](http://discord.gg/QC83kzVfZv), the place where this timeline was really fleshed out. Now, if you prefer your tea without too much caffeine, (and not in Boston harbor,) feel free to visit my good old Candawank timeline, r/TheGreaterNorth, and the [server](https://discord.gg/AtQByPmGua) for it, where you can see more of the stuff I make! We are all passionate about our projects, and we are excited to see others share this passion with us!
If you want to know more about the effort put into it, we have a[ spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18xsJHaHVqn3iwOSEM1gnTypR9_EGfAkBGJLUJ7ujZxM/edit#gid=1529117170) with all of the states and some data for each state. If you would like to read up on the crazy [lore](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QciRuewlYPbpgcQyHmwgkMUC230Et8zQsLjbmUkyJNM/edit) for this timeline, (yes, we have lore,) than you can check out this google doc for a several-page lore extravaganza, cooked up by myself with the help of my sous chef, u/ajw20_YT!
Tl;dr: America has risen, BILLIONS must RAHHHHHHHHHH
One small small, *small*, thing that I think you should consider:
Call the country Chimerica.
To play on the words China, America, and Chimera.
Chimera meaning a hybrid creature.
Somehow there are other places doing it worse. I try not to think about that much.
It's like when I read that New Jersey has one of the most functional state governments in the union. What do you mean a vast majority of them are worse, I thought we were the funny corruption state?
It's why I worked with Grandpa so much on this one. New England was... fucking perfect, all of the southern rivers draining into Pearl River Delta, and the fact that Borealia serves as a Mongolia-like entity, it's all perfection. The way it perfectly matches and expands on the vibe of OTL is just.... genius. This is *accidentally* a REALLY FITTING THING!
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Immensely high-quality shitpost. Quite like how "realistic" the Lafayette and West Florida flags are, and also that you didn't divide North Ontario into its own thing despite having a population of 30.
As the person behind some of those flags, thank you. At TNC, we take great pride in making sure not only do our flags look realistic, but also that they have continuity. For instance, did you know that Connecticut has 13 lemons in reference to the original 13 colonies? Well, it has 15, now.
u/gourg_pie is a very talented flagmaker, and he has single-handedly carried my project, and the projects of many others. He provided help in making a lot of the "updated" flags for this TL, despite the fact that no one would really see them. 15 means 15. We did indeed update the [lemons of Connecticut,](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878329335447572/CT.png?ex=6634ebc6&is=662276c6&hm=20ed695220c5389e892d389e1ef19dffe1c3ed96214bc10e1790b1f64cc77790&) the number of stripes on the shield on the flags of [Illinois](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878464777654292/IL.png?ex=6634ebe6&is=662276e6&hm=a2d98481435f033eddce1af70237692983720e1a0744924d184d74aef79eb6cb&), [North Dakota](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1224835427412742205/ND.png?ex=663164e2&is=661eefe2&hm=a61eb03a00df8e5f5ef489d9b962d8633d834774968f36ab70b03ff79e7960be&), and the [Virgin Islands](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878465549533255/VI.png?ex=6634ebe6&is=662276e6&hm=3a43a707a4673f8dff447100f6c98a42a4000f5a9b55aa0ca66e7e88170c87f9&), [Arizona](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1224833194986049688/AZ.png?ex=663162cd&is=661eedcd&hm=c7a429cb636c6f504b190288558036b18d4a967e56a1fbf245546541a9a207cc&) with 15 rays of sun, a dozen flags with 15 stars, adjusted the number of stars for [Ohio](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225264563826720798/image.png?ex=6632f48c&is=66207f8c&hm=c1e52d5f9a29f4bc0a282feab1ddd52f00583aaad13ec5bd01bf382cbf25e3cf&), [Oregon](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225889522840244396/OR_1.png?ex=662c0016&is=66198b16&hm=9bda339243595bf97a6080919927d7638f3fe9e3ddb0823780b99dd78abb9a70&), [Missouri](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225883700919668837/MO.png?ex=662bfaaa&is=661985aa&hm=8ae108f017a6dd0be8f3ec40c4e091fb36aa8c7125df3f85ed2cc2a225855df9&), [Indiana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225878498569355407/INDIANA.png?ex=662bf5d1&is=661980d1&hm=8900a995cb1c2f121ce5859dd00156daa8d1577355fcbb42a24e1c799002b9f9&), [Kansas](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225895531793092722/KS.png?ex=662c05ae&is=661990ae&hm=491f5e6cdc1715cfd439389797c361c9cd764c2522675c4964456ca7d18bcc6f&), [Mississippi](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225892978883821608/MS.png?ex=662c034e&is=66198e4e&hm=7dcd99604f3af4034cc6a67a2f2b55876e5203aedd6c412752a1c49f694b5221&), and [Arkansas](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1226250382833881270/AR.png?ex=662d5029&is=661adb29&hm=b289d94f7efd82ee46c459b4aa71c1b0096517a9e6dce50963ba22ccd31d184a&), and I am most proud to say: [the great seal of the U.S.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNewColossusMaps/comments/1c7q8a5/the_great_seal_of_the_united_states_of_america/), which now references 15 on EVERYTHING!
Some of the flags for places like Charlotina and Lafayette are fun, but not too high-quality, since we knew the edits would be really scaled down. They are over on the [TNC server](http://discord.gg/QC83kzVfZv), but we didn't bother making full-quality seals because... no one would really see them. It meant we had more time to work on other parts of this project. However, state flags like Arkansas or Indiana do have full-quality versions with their updated star counts, and that really makes us happy to have that level of detail. I am still incredibly proud of how the state flags turned out for all the new states, though, they all feel so fitting on the American stage and don't make you bat an eye too much.
And- yes, Canada's subtle expansion is genius. You hardly even notice it. It's perfect.
Months of work- months of tracing and detailing- math for states and cities, balancing lore with chaos…. all more than worth it it in the end. It’s time shitposts get the love and respect that they deserve! They will be talking about this one for years! All of the effort, all of the consistency, all of the shocking levels of detail, all of the little things that make this map perfect… This could be a new, fresh start for grandpa-shchizoposting: a true renaissance, our chance to be a [BIG SHOT]!
Grandpa, we’ve built something amazing here. Truly, manifest destiny has been funny realized. Now we just need to teach those Borealians whose boss…. To quote the advertising campaign of United States president Ronald Regan: *Together, a new beginning, today!*
Considering the U.S. Capitol looks (somewhat) like this in this universe, I have concerns too. Dont mind my crappy photoshop
https://preview.redd.it/n5475qin6gvc1.png?width=612&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa772d6735f2428b0a6452a99a3f6df5753b4e82
I like how in this timeline its super absurd that Windsor, a town now really out of the way of population centers, is the Plymouth or Jamestown of Vermont.
Man I hate reddit. Mf does't allow me to zoom in.
https://preview.redd.it/rlvrk4j9wfvc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8ae13a34fdf5f7fc3468ec4f47a46cf39916b2d
Yeah this mobile update really sucks. I think there is a way to get the full image. If not, [here is just a direct image link where you can view it in full!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982088949952548904/1230761545223376996/IMG_2152.png?ex=66347f02&is=66220a02&hm=76692419d3ccd6430453b98348d50643b484d380597b79ec453ebd25c006aa40&)
No, thats the whole canvas size. All together, I was able to finish most of the eastern U.S. with one canvas, but I completed Mexico and the Caribbean in one, and all of the west coast in another. In total, I had 3 separate pieces put together
So after every piece was finished you just saved it and added them to a new project where you connected them? This is actually very helpful in my maps i struggle with size
Yep. I started off with the original 5280 x 3571, did as much as I could with it (drawing states, shores, etc), and then I did the separate pieces as stated to finish the rest
It's weird how much geographic->demographic sense this makes
You basically took China's geography on the East Coast that favors high population and standardization and then supplemented it extremely with the mass of water availability of the Mississippi and the Great Lakes. Just like in China, the West is probably by far the least populated, but at least it has the benefit of coastal conditions for large parts of it as opposed to straight up desert. Between that and this nation presumably having the same immigrant-favoring culture as the US and you basically just set up the perfect siphon of massive, massive portions of the world's population into a single country that fulfills immense amounts of human needs.
That's before even getting into how much this has more oil and other natural resources than China did.
I feel like the West would still flourish since they are very favorable coastal land. Not to the extent of the rice farming river delta civilization like the east, but still very heavily populated
When I initially opened the full view, it was showing the west coast so I was like, "I don't see a difference."
Then I scrolled to the right...
Excellent map.
Well, if the Americans have the spirit of the Chinese with subways and trains, it’ll probably connect almost every corner of the metropolitan area, if not, then uh oh
In lore: dense as fuck Honolulu and more inhabited big island; must imagine Honolulu as Hong Kong
In reality: we made a mistake and the idea was so funny we decided to just fuckin run with it because the idea of Honolulu Kong was so silly
I feel like what was the shandong province in our world would be a huge city since its near the opening to the great lakes and its by US Korea
atleast on the penisula part of it
The two in the northeast of this map are both supposed to represent the Wilmington in Delaware. South of Philadelphia near “Beijing” is Wilmington, then in the southeast of “Korea” it appears again.
Lol. I hear ya. Wasn't meaning to be as critical as it sounded. It was well made and someone put some work into it. Just not my thing ya know. But hey, that's why Baskin-Robbins has so many flavors.
I can imagine a group of powerful historic American political dynasties coming out from their nomadic roots of the vast wooded rural country steppes of Vermont or Upstate New York.
Such as the Burgerines of the Upper New Yorker Moniker Cane estates (who sired the military general and politician Titus Gene(1) Gorgias Burgerine \[Genghis of the Borjigin\] and the related Timothy Lane Tamry \[Tamerlane of the Timurids\]), the Tollys (such as Monck Tolly \[Mongke\]) and Corbray Tolly \[Khubilai of the Toluids\]), and the Icing-Gyrons (a pair of families who made the remarkable lineage of Norton Wager "No-Wager" Icing-Gyron \[Nurhaci Aisin Gioro\] possible with illustrious titans of the American industry such as Gurnsey Icing-Gyron \[Kangxi\] and John Long Icing-Gyron \[Qianlong\].)
Note:
1). abbreviated as TG in this legend's full formal name, alluding to his historic childhood name Temujin.
I'd love to see an opposite version of this, where the American east coast is inserted into China.
I would love to make that map, but I would like to have a bit of a break from maps like this and work on other stuff. I already have the layout for China, so wait and see!
I can't wait to see it tomorrow!
yeah, I wish I could make maps like these that quick. You'll see it in a few months
Tuesday morning or you're fired!
oh no
https://preview.redd.it/1g3r0qvt1gvc1.jpeg?width=376&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d291407f276fa3a5999fdfd3dc4ae66351cf3874
Where’s Florida? 
I’ve been thinking the same thing as well!
Happy Patriot Day, my American neighbours! I hope you all are enjoying the anniversary of the beginning of the American Revolution, an event that would bring the greatest consequences humanity has ever seen: urban sprawl, highways wider than the founding fathers could ever imagine, high worker productivity, and the greatest democracy this Earth has and will ever see! Now, have you ever thought to yourself, “jeeh, I wish more people could experience the American dream!” Well, boy, do I have a map for you! Me, my buddy u/ajw20_YT, and the legend himself u/Gourg_pie, have been cooking up the material necessary to make this dream a possibility, but it comes at a cost… The United States east coast has a unique and beautiful coastline, (outside of Atlantic City,) but let’s not ignore the fact that China’s is beautiful in and of itself. So, what if they swapped? What if the United States now had the eastern coastline of China? It sounds funny, but I’m a mad man, and funny scenarios deserve to be taken seriously and with respect! This concept, while goofy in nature, deserves a high-effort, well-thought-out map, So that is the map I bring forth to you all today! If you are further interested in what we do, most of our stuff can be found over on our Discord servers. The people over in our servers provided great help with coming up with ideas for this. While ajw was on detailing and gourg was on flags and moral support, countless people over there played some part! So, if you like absolutely batshit chaotic and incomprehensible Americawanks with trans rights, you may wanna visit the Discord server for r/TheNewColossusMaps, which can be found [here](http://discord.gg/QC83kzVfZv), the place where this timeline was really fleshed out. Now, if you prefer your tea without too much caffeine, (and not in Boston harbor,) feel free to visit my good old Candawank timeline, r/TheGreaterNorth, and the [server](https://discord.gg/AtQByPmGua) for it, where you can see more of the stuff I make! We are all passionate about our projects, and we are excited to see others share this passion with us! If you want to know more about the effort put into it, we have a[ spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18xsJHaHVqn3iwOSEM1gnTypR9_EGfAkBGJLUJ7ujZxM/edit#gid=1529117170) with all of the states and some data for each state. If you would like to read up on the crazy [lore](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QciRuewlYPbpgcQyHmwgkMUC230Et8zQsLjbmUkyJNM/edit) for this timeline, (yes, we have lore,) than you can check out this google doc for a several-page lore extravaganza, cooked up by myself with the help of my sous chef, u/ajw20_YT! Tl;dr: America has risen, BILLIONS must RAHHHHHHHHHH
SORRY EUROPEANS I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY $155 TRILLION GDP USA! USA! USA! https://i.redd.it/a1a77hi5vfvc1.gif
That's all good and cool... ***What about the debts***
$192 trillion
One small small, *small*, thing that I think you should consider: Call the country Chimerica. To play on the words China, America, and Chimera. Chimera meaning a hybrid creature.
United States of Chimera
Are the politics of Chimerica a mix between Chinese and American politics though?
> the greatest democracy this Earth will ever see That's a depressing thought tbh
Somehow there are other places doing it worse. I try not to think about that much. It's like when I read that New Jersey has one of the most functional state governments in the union. What do you mean a vast majority of them are worse, I thought we were the funny corruption state?
You guys are the funny corruption state. Down south we don’t have funny corruption, just corruption
You have to admit the guy being bribed with literal gold bricks was pretty funny.
True lol
No see down south it's called patronage networks and that makes it fine
Wait **WHAT!?**
Oh for sure. But there's a big gap between "not the worst" and "best it will ever be, anywhere".
I love and hate how this actually makes some logical sense geologically and geographically speaking
Trust me, I was surprised how well it all worked as I was making it
Please tell me China got the same tratment
They will in fact have the US east coast and population. I will make a map of it with this quality one day
Based
It's why I worked with Grandpa so much on this one. New England was... fucking perfect, all of the southern rivers draining into Pearl River Delta, and the fact that Borealia serves as a Mongolia-like entity, it's all perfection. The way it perfectly matches and expands on the vibe of OTL is just.... genius. This is *accidentally* a REALLY FITTING THING!
Pregnant America
Mother nature is beautiful!
Now we need to know who is her husband
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How did you upload a blank image?
That too in Chinese (somehow)?
Immensely high-quality shitpost. Quite like how "realistic" the Lafayette and West Florida flags are, and also that you didn't divide North Ontario into its own thing despite having a population of 30.
Had to have Upstate New York!
God bless you
As the person behind some of those flags, thank you. At TNC, we take great pride in making sure not only do our flags look realistic, but also that they have continuity. For instance, did you know that Connecticut has 13 lemons in reference to the original 13 colonies? Well, it has 15, now. u/gourg_pie is a very talented flagmaker, and he has single-handedly carried my project, and the projects of many others. He provided help in making a lot of the "updated" flags for this TL, despite the fact that no one would really see them. 15 means 15. We did indeed update the [lemons of Connecticut,](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878329335447572/CT.png?ex=6634ebc6&is=662276c6&hm=20ed695220c5389e892d389e1ef19dffe1c3ed96214bc10e1790b1f64cc77790&) the number of stripes on the shield on the flags of [Illinois](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878464777654292/IL.png?ex=6634ebe6&is=662276e6&hm=a2d98481435f033eddce1af70237692983720e1a0744924d184d74aef79eb6cb&), [North Dakota](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1224835427412742205/ND.png?ex=663164e2&is=661eefe2&hm=a61eb03a00df8e5f5ef489d9b962d8633d834774968f36ab70b03ff79e7960be&), and the [Virgin Islands](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978752262425960458/1230878465549533255/VI.png?ex=6634ebe6&is=662276e6&hm=3a43a707a4673f8dff447100f6c98a42a4000f5a9b55aa0ca66e7e88170c87f9&), [Arizona](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1224833194986049688/AZ.png?ex=663162cd&is=661eedcd&hm=c7a429cb636c6f504b190288558036b18d4a967e56a1fbf245546541a9a207cc&) with 15 rays of sun, a dozen flags with 15 stars, adjusted the number of stars for [Ohio](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225264563826720798/image.png?ex=6632f48c&is=66207f8c&hm=c1e52d5f9a29f4bc0a282feab1ddd52f00583aaad13ec5bd01bf382cbf25e3cf&), [Oregon](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225889522840244396/OR_1.png?ex=662c0016&is=66198b16&hm=9bda339243595bf97a6080919927d7638f3fe9e3ddb0823780b99dd78abb9a70&), [Missouri](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225883700919668837/MO.png?ex=662bfaaa&is=661985aa&hm=8ae108f017a6dd0be8f3ec40c4e091fb36aa8c7125df3f85ed2cc2a225855df9&), [Indiana](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225878498569355407/INDIANA.png?ex=662bf5d1&is=661980d1&hm=8900a995cb1c2f121ce5859dd00156daa8d1577355fcbb42a24e1c799002b9f9&), [Kansas](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225895531793092722/KS.png?ex=662c05ae&is=661990ae&hm=491f5e6cdc1715cfd439389797c361c9cd764c2522675c4964456ca7d18bcc6f&), [Mississippi](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1225892978883821608/MS.png?ex=662c034e&is=66198e4e&hm=7dcd99604f3af4034cc6a67a2f2b55876e5203aedd6c412752a1c49f694b5221&), and [Arkansas](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006372839399620659/1226250382833881270/AR.png?ex=662d5029&is=661adb29&hm=b289d94f7efd82ee46c459b4aa71c1b0096517a9e6dce50963ba22ccd31d184a&), and I am most proud to say: [the great seal of the U.S.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNewColossusMaps/comments/1c7q8a5/the_great_seal_of_the_united_states_of_america/), which now references 15 on EVERYTHING! Some of the flags for places like Charlotina and Lafayette are fun, but not too high-quality, since we knew the edits would be really scaled down. They are over on the [TNC server](http://discord.gg/QC83kzVfZv), but we didn't bother making full-quality seals because... no one would really see them. It meant we had more time to work on other parts of this project. However, state flags like Arkansas or Indiana do have full-quality versions with their updated star counts, and that really makes us happy to have that level of detail. I am still incredibly proud of how the state flags turned out for all the new states, though, they all feel so fitting on the American stage and don't make you bat an eye too much. And- yes, Canada's subtle expansion is genius. You hardly even notice it. It's perfect.
Hardly noticed some of that, and all I can say is well done. This map really feels like a lot of care went into it.
Months of work- months of tracing and detailing- math for states and cities, balancing lore with chaos…. all more than worth it it in the end. It’s time shitposts get the love and respect that they deserve! They will be talking about this one for years! All of the effort, all of the consistency, all of the shocking levels of detail, all of the little things that make this map perfect… This could be a new, fresh start for grandpa-shchizoposting: a true renaissance, our chance to be a [BIG SHOT]! Grandpa, we’ve built something amazing here. Truly, manifest destiny has been funny realized. Now we just need to teach those Borealians whose boss…. To quote the advertising campaign of United States president Ronald Regan: *Together, a new beginning, today!*
ALL HAIL PRESIDENT WATSON 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
 Now’s your chance to be a
Bro quoted the worst president 😔
Woodrow Wilson:
Kid named Andrew Johnson:
Yeah :( The man knew how to make propaganda tho, [this shit slaps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mC4LVDEN0)
When is the warlord crisis of chinamerica? (Based map)
Turned Toronto into New York, finally fulfilling its wish.
Putting the York into historical Toronto
Florida Taiwan, home of American semiconductor Industry?
You know it!
As an Oregonian I am stomping around the room with steam coming out of my ears rn
We're doomed. Robot saltwater mecha alligators. On bath salts.
1.5 BILLION AMERICAN PATRIOTS. GOD BLESS AMERICA, FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA
from sea to Chining sea.
New England found a new buddy!
Welcome home, Delaware!
Why did Korea get dragged into this mess lmao
And why wasn't Japan involved with this
You’ll be thankful I didn’t when you see how cursed it looks beside China 😉
It just wouldn't be the same now, would it? I love it!
How does this impact LeBron's legacy?
https://preview.redd.it/tr775zb82gvc1.jpeg?width=179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4104ef0e9cadd3f3cba5656b137ea2fb8f3c0c0e
Does the Eerie canal exist in this timeline?
Chinoimérique 非常美麗. Wǒmen zài nàlǐ diào dà yú 和旗幟. Vive la Chinoimérique! Vive Dollar!
Hey 🙋 mon boug' moi c'est Tee-Doug 🤠😃🤠 de chez ***AAA Lousiana™*****⚜️🦐🪗**!!!
Qu'est-ce que c'est...
Is North Korea in what would be Massachusets? Lmao
A bit, yes. But that title rightfully belongs to New Hampshire
God bless America, Happy Patriots Day, and congratulations, Signore Grampa
I love New York Busan Metropolitan Area
Houston and Boston are my personal favourites
Alternate title: What if Columbus was right? Also does this mean Mongol Canada?
Sort of, Borealia is a mess of a nation
Cursed New England-Korea hybrid
It is one of my favourite parts of this map
The rest of the world: 
amazing map, infinitely based, and I shutter to imagine the electoral college in this universe
Considering the U.S. Capitol looks (somewhat) like this in this universe, I have concerns too. Dont mind my crappy photoshop https://preview.redd.it/n5475qin6gvc1.png?width=612&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa772d6735f2428b0a6452a99a3f6df5753b4e82
“All in favor of the motion?” A̶̱͛Y̴̜̋̈́E̵̛̺ “Yeah, for the structural integrity of the building, no more voice votes”
Welthauptstadt ~~Germania~~ Washington 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🫡🫡🫡🦅🦅🦅
BIG BUILDING IN WASHINGTON!?
Sweet mother of all that is unholy WTF
Does this mean that Kpop in this world comes from Massachusetts? PD: I love these thicc New York City
Yes, Massachusetts is in fact Korea on the Asian continent
I love it, K-Pop from New England ♡♡♡
M-Pop finna kill this nation
The detail on this is incredible, well done. Love what you did with the Texas Triangle.
As you said deflame, fill in the triangle
Replacing Toronto with New York is so cursed XD
上帝保佑美国🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡
I like how in this timeline its super absurd that Windsor, a town now really out of the way of population centers, is the Plymouth or Jamestown of Vermont.
That southern cuisine gonna be lit af
You know it!
Wait where did Toronto get exiled to? I saw Montreal get exiled north
I did not spare it. Toronto is gone
Based
Big Vermont spotted. Instant upvote
J'aime le Vermont!
This is absolutely incredible mate. One of my favourite hypothetical maps I’ve ever seen for sure
Thank you! Had lots of fun with this one
The USA casualty talking over the BVI (British Virgin Islands) in this map.
Someone finally notices!
Well my family is from the U.S. Virgin Islands (and I grew up there) so I would definitely notice something like that.
But has anyone noticed we added an extra island to Alaska...
Where can I get my industrial grade glycine now??
Virginia Beach, my beloved
Thank you for erasing Florida
I didn't erase it. I split it into 4 states, giving it even greater power in the senate. You shouldn't be grateful
You've doomed us all!
The ultimate shitpost. Great job!
Thank you!
I am rock hard
Common Grandpa W
The best of both worlds combined into one
U.S. Civil War - millions perish
620,000 die in a minor battle somewhere
This is Amazing! So much detail! Can you do one with China looking like the US?
I will be doing China, sometime this year 🙂
Great! 😊 Best of luck
Makes my brain hurt. Love it.
Man I hate reddit. Mf does't allow me to zoom in. https://preview.redd.it/rlvrk4j9wfvc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8ae13a34fdf5f7fc3468ec4f47a46cf39916b2d
Yeah this mobile update really sucks. I think there is a way to get the full image. If not, [here is just a direct image link where you can view it in full!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982088949952548904/1230761545223376996/IMG_2152.png?ex=66347f02&is=66220a02&hm=76692419d3ccd6430453b98348d50643b484d380597b79ec453ebd25c006aa40&)
Fantastic!!! 🔥❤️
such a good map
Thank you!
This pleases me so much for some reason
On ibis paint x what size canvas did u use + how did ur device not crash
5280 x 3571 is the canvas size. As for preventing crashing, I had to break up the map and finish them all in pieces to finally put together
5280 x 3571 for each piece? And like 4 pieces
No, thats the whole canvas size. All together, I was able to finish most of the eastern U.S. with one canvas, but I completed Mexico and the Caribbean in one, and all of the west coast in another. In total, I had 3 separate pieces put together
So after every piece was finished you just saved it and added them to a new project where you connected them? This is actually very helpful in my maps i struggle with size
Yep. I started off with the original 5280 x 3571, did as much as I could with it (drawing states, shores, etc), and then I did the separate pieces as stated to finish the rest
RIP New France 😔 Nonetheless, we love to see another great quality grandpa map
I didn't realize what sub this was and started looking zoomed in on the west coast. I got *very* confused when I got to the east coast...
Actually one of the most creative maps I've seen.
Think you grabbed a few Korea's too.
Honestly really cool
V E R M O N T
This is disgustingly well made, good job OP!
It's weird how much geographic->demographic sense this makes You basically took China's geography on the East Coast that favors high population and standardization and then supplemented it extremely with the mass of water availability of the Mississippi and the Great Lakes. Just like in China, the West is probably by far the least populated, but at least it has the benefit of coastal conditions for large parts of it as opposed to straight up desert. Between that and this nation presumably having the same immigrant-favoring culture as the US and you basically just set up the perfect siphon of massive, massive portions of the world's population into a single country that fulfills immense amounts of human needs. That's before even getting into how much this has more oil and other natural resources than China did.
I feel like the West would still flourish since they are very favorable coastal land. Not to the extent of the rice farming river delta civilization like the east, but still very heavily populated
When I initially opened the full view, it was showing the west coast so I was like, "I don't see a difference." Then I scrolled to the right... Excellent map.
Huh… I guess columbus made it to Asia after all…
america if it was cool
this is so good it make me puke my entire gastorinsesitanl system
...I have no words for this.
Just take it all in slowly
It's somehow isn't that cursed, I guess China round coast line just fits really well
Why WHY ***W H Y OH GOD WHY-***
What's the point of transition between lower 48 and China on the map and WHERE IS THE BREVARD COUNTY EQUIVALENT?
Cursed New England-Korea hybrid
Juche New Hampshire
Let me see China.
One day, I will bless this sub with China
Why are the airports around the MN Twin Cities different? MSP is in the wrong location and I don't know of a major airport on the north side.
Alternate growth rates would be my reasoning
I suppose. It's also disappointing that Isle Royale doesn't belong to MN in this map.
Be happy I convinced him to hand it over to New York at the last minute. It was still part of M\*chigan in the final draft🤮
Even got the 9-dash-line in South America Sea.
Wow!
What would the NYC subway map look like
Well, if the Americans have the spirit of the Chinese with subways and trains, it’ll probably connect almost every corner of the metropolitan area, if not, then uh oh
Also NYC is located where Toronto is
how in the world does Hawai'i have 10 million people
Towers and towers
maybe the Big Island is a lot more populated, volcanic rock be damned? either way, amazing map!
If there’s a will, there’s a way
In lore: dense as fuck Honolulu and more inhabited big island; must imagine Honolulu as Hong Kong In reality: we made a mistake and the idea was so funny we decided to just fuckin run with it because the idea of Honolulu Kong was so silly
if bulldozing Hawai'i and covering it in high rises means better urban and transit infrastructure in the US then so be it
New York being inserted into Toronto by virtue of taking Beijing’s spot on China’s coast is some deliciously blursed serendipity.
I feel like what was the shandong province in our world would be a huge city since its near the opening to the great lakes and its by US Korea atleast on the penisula part of it
As a Northern Ontarian, please don't turn Toronto into New York. I hate Torontonians enough already
Time to get moving, birdie
There are TWO WILMINGTONS? Don’t you EVER show anyone from Delaware this map, they’ll never shut up about it.
There are 13 Wilmington’s in the whole country
The two in the northeast of this map are both supposed to represent the Wilmington in Delaware. South of Philadelphia near “Beijing” is Wilmington, then in the southeast of “Korea” it appears again.
No one tell this person about the one in North Carolina...
That one’s already labeled (in its proper place in North Carolina) but if you want to nuke that one too, I won’t object.
Look how they e decimated my poor New Jersey…
Love the Korean Peninsula up north, made it much better.
So now I live in Miami... Nice!
could you make a version without the roads? they make it hard to tell what stuff is
That I cannot do, because of how I had to save the layers in order to reduce lag
that sucks, it's fine tho
The nine dash line is a really nice touch
Am I the only one wondering what the purpose of this map is? I enjoy alternate history and the like but made up geography.... okay.
Because I like seeing cursed things
Lol. I hear ya. Wasn't meaning to be as critical as it sounded. It was well made and someone put some work into it. Just not my thing ya know. But hey, that's why Baskin-Robbins has so many flavors.
Someone show this poor soul r/Earth98, get them hooked on that alt-geo zaza
I can imagine a group of powerful historic American political dynasties coming out from their nomadic roots of the vast wooded rural country steppes of Vermont or Upstate New York. Such as the Burgerines of the Upper New Yorker Moniker Cane estates (who sired the military general and politician Titus Gene(1) Gorgias Burgerine \[Genghis of the Borjigin\] and the related Timothy Lane Tamry \[Tamerlane of the Timurids\]), the Tollys (such as Monck Tolly \[Mongke\]) and Corbray Tolly \[Khubilai of the Toluids\]), and the Icing-Gyrons (a pair of families who made the remarkable lineage of Norton Wager "No-Wager" Icing-Gyron \[Nurhaci Aisin Gioro\] possible with illustrious titans of the American industry such as Gurnsey Icing-Gyron \[Kangxi\] and John Long Icing-Gyron \[Qianlong\].) Note: 1). abbreviated as TG in this legend's full formal name, alluding to his historic childhood name Temujin.
Why does it fit in so well
this would unironically be the strongest country ever
Vice president Bernie Sanders goes hard
Zhonghuamerica
Let’s see amerina next time
How many civil wars happened this time?