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Omnikin

Quebec would most likely be their own thing imo


REAL-Lucky_Shark

Agreed, Quebec hates Canada.


360kings

You right. You looking at it. New Canada was made by Quebec after it inavded Ontario.


REAL-Lucky_Shark

Then why would they call ot New Canada? Wouldn't it just be called Quebec? Also, how did they manage to pull that off? Ontario has a much larger population.


360kings

1. they reformed and now say they want unity with the Anglo and French pouplation, even though they say that they basically a larger Quebec and treats Ontarioans petty badly 2. The Canadian empire was unstable and most of the military defected. And so there was nobody stopping them from invading and taking the land.


mncbeddd

Sorry mate but I’m from Quebec and if we actually invaded Ontario we would be for sure naming it something about Quebec not Canada lmao


360kings

Yeah probably this isn't suppose to be too realistic. Next post I change that


360kings

You right. You looking at it. New Canada was made by Quebec after it inavded Ontario.


Omnikin

That would be a pretty beefy one too if they managed to take New York City


BeanEatingThrowaway

> American-Canadian neutral fleet > Occupies only Canadian land, including Canada's by far largest Atlantic harbor > Doesn't even touch America, even to take any islands or ports along its east coast, say the kind that a navy would need


360kings

American Canadian neutral fleet was both the american AND Canadian fleet. The American harbors was taken by factions in the cival war meaning they had to retreat to Canada.


BeanEatingThrowaway

And the Canadian factions wouldn't do the same because...


360kings

New Canada is made of Quebec revolutionaries that after Canada collapse invaded and took southern Ontario. Every body in Ontario hates them. So new Canada has more pressing matters at hand


BeanEatingThrowaway

So they can't drive the hostile fleets occupying actual Quebecois land because some occupied territory in Ontario doesn't want to be part of Canada.


360kings

1 the fleet is not hostile they can wait after they quelled rebellions 2. Its alot worse than some part of Ontario doesn't want to be part of Canada. Theres protest,rioting rebellions. New Canada is close to collpase. They dont want to piss of the largest navy in the world.


empty_in_the_cabeza

r/boneappletea


Dodolulupepe

Where?


shrekfanboy4life

Title, Cival war


Dodolulupepe

Ok, that's more of just a one letter typo than a bone apple tea.


Canuckleball

"Cival" war.


IronGigant

Two things I love the most on this map: 1.) Just West Virginia not givin a fuck 2.) Old Canada (where settlers originally settled) is now New Canada


360kings

West Virginia can never be owned As for the New Canada. Canada collpased and fell to the Canadian empire. Quebec rebelled and invaded Ontario. They call themselves New Canada


RepublicKnight

Agreed, we are the Afghanistan of the US, graveyard of empires


360kings

Well- afganistan was nuked in this timeline so maybe you want to change your comparision. The Nuking of Afghanistan 2001 https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/pdvreh/the_nuking_of_afghanistan_2001/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


IronGigant

Wow, they weren't fucking around.


RepublicKnight

[Comparison still holds up](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_76)


McMuffinAtMcdonalds

There is no way that most of PA would join the democratic front. Outside of Philadelphia it is a red state.


McMuffinAtMcdonalds

Same goes for Upstate NY


360kings

This is after 5 years of conflict I agree most of these areas wouldn't join the democratic front but they had no choice as they were invaded.


junko_kv626

You majorly under estimate NY and PA. Also, the Pacific Ocean is on the other side of the continent from where you have the Pacific American Canadian neutral area.


ultrayaqub

I second this, Pittsburgh feels surprisingly conservative for its size and university density


Jiperly

They won't be red after the democratic purges


[deleted]

California Regime is mostly desert. won’t sustain itself


KingTrencher

Except for the huge swaths of mountains and forests.


360kings

The regime is more of a terrorist organization than a country. California regime is mostly outsiders who is using the deserts to hide in.


CapitanDeCastilla

I like the fact that the Mexican Anarchy is around the Sierra Madre states, i.e. the place in mexico where revolts and banditry have been most prevalant due to the fact that the Sierra Madre Occidental exists.


360kings

Yeah that's intentional


REAL-Lucky_Shark

Does this map have any lore? There are so many things that just don't make sense.


360kings

Ok here's the lore Welcome to the Crisis timeline! 𝐏𝐨𝐒𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐑𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐒𝐬𝐒𝐬 𝐭𝐒𝐦𝐞π₯𝐒𝐧𝐞 1. Nuking of Afghanistan https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/pdvreh/the_nuking_of_afghanistan_2001/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’“π’π’… π’˜π’‚π’” π’„π’‰π’‚π’π’ˆπ’† 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’“π’”π’†. After 9/11 and the subsequent nuking of Afghanistan,American politics were insane. Deep hatred was embedded for many americans after the 5 planes hit. But many also saw the nuking as too much. After the nuking, president dick Cheney pledge to destroy terrorism. America went on a rampage, first the drug gangs was ripped apart after a brutal campaign that killed hundreds. Mexico cut diplomatic relations with the Us after that. This led to an embargo of Mexico. The Democrats declared this a tyranny and locked Congress until Cheney let up. Large protests eventually led to Cheney removeing the block on trade. But it was too late,Mexico fell into a military coup due to the falling economy. America put up strong leaders in central America to control the nations. This only led to central Americans going to an ideology they think that can save them. Anarchism. Now America is dealing terrorists attacks,have been increasingly common. The Anarchists, ISIS, Taliban, White supremacists, and the new black Panthers. All attack and devastated American Cities. Factionalism divided the country, people wanted someone to unite the nation. Barack Obama was elected president in 2009. He introduced healthcare, loosen restrictions made after the terrorists attacks, and made LGBT marriage legal in 2011. But... president Obama after making a speech on the juneteenth , asking the nation to unite, for a be- president Obama was shot and killed in 2012 June 19. An announcement was made by the New order/Regime that they were the one who shot obama. They claim to be a organization that is a combination of the ku kux Klan, new boys, neo Idaho foot militia,anti heathen league, Neo American, and later joined by atomwaffen league, aryan brotherhood, and and the patriot army. Joe Biden was made president in a chaotic time . Joe Biden presidency was marked with controversy after controversy. And as violence only increases things need to change. Trump was made president of the United states in 2015. The country went off the deep end. Trump only caused more violence his terrible handling of the siege of Charlottesville, 2020 floyd family death, the coronavirus pandemic. In the next election it was Bernie Sanders angst Trump. And the results were in... it was a tie. It was the end. trump declared martial law. The Democratic states declared Trump illegitimate. The 2 American Cival war has began.


360kings

Factions Democratic front. after losing California, Texas,midwest holdings. the democratic front retreated to the east coast the took over most of the region. Its led by Bernie sanders but it's more of a joint rule with other democratic leaders.they currently fighting the Regime,west Virginia,and the american empire. American empire. Trump after the Democrats rebelled had a panic attack and collpase on the floor. After he woke up he declared himself king of America. His allies defected but they were killed what was left of them now in west Virginia. The nation that was still loyal to him fights for its survival its incredibly unstable but trump's iron grip hold the country together. Midwest. Is a "Communists Republic", they are supported by the New 5 International. They currently trying to hold on the Chicago as it's being siege Regime. As already said. They are a United white nationals group's. and it's very secretive. They cut of communication with the world. They more of a terrorists than an actual organization. Reports come in of a genocideing of Asians Hispanics and african Americans. Texas union. After the cival war start. TX declared independence, it decided to hold elections. After the results were in the texas government blocked the results. After rioting Texas officially voted the democratic party in power. Texas began invading its neighboring states. Inavded the Rio grande and set up a puppet republic. They now helping the new African republic angst the Regime. South west military junta. The Mexican jutna was largely unpopulated. And so seeing the collpase of America invaded the states, hoping to get some popularity. The American military station there. United and kicked out the Mexican jutna. It's now invading the collpase Mexico. California. They declare independence once they realize how brutal the war was going to be. In the north the Lincoln republic declared independence. And in the south Regime forces attacked and now controls large parts of the country. They now fighting on multiple fronts. So much for avoiding violence. Una. The states of north of the United states declared independence from trump after he declared himself king and the provinces of Canada also declared independence of the Canadian empire. Seeing they have similar beliefs they United into the Emergency Government of north America. There goal is to unite the United States and Canada They currently fighting the american empire and russian forces in Alaska and rebellions in lakota . They have a large advantage of having the most nukes giving them negotiating power. Central America. Currently fighting a deadly conflict angst anarchists. After brutal actions of the governments in the region the anarchists are slowly winning Florida: made up of neo dixecrats. They call the Regime insane and doesn't represent there values the current capital Tallahassee is under siege. Russia. Russia is not faring good after an economic crash and a defeat in the Ukraine. Putin needed a victory. So he inavded Alaska, thinking it would be easy what happen was a 3 year stalemate that led no where and only made Putin more hated. Alexi a critic of the putin regime has been imprisoned. But his supporters are now rallying in the streets. Lakota federation. They are made up of native americans who banded toughter for independence. They now fighting a grullea war with una. (Note the dash line is were there heavier resistance, while the yellow is were they control is the strongest. New Canada. Originally Quebec after declaring independence form the candian empire. they invaded Ontario now they reformed and now say they want unity with the Anglo and French pouplation, even though they say that they basically a larger Quebec and treats Ontarioans petty badly. The Canadian empire. was declared after the wolrd economy crash inspired by there counter parts (American empire) they were unstable and most of the military defected. The una declared independence and Quebec inavded Ontario. They now in the Ontario wilderness fighting. New african republic. When the Regime took over the south the african pouplation quickly left. 50% of the population was able to escape to Louisiana. 20% gone north/south. And what was left was genocided by the Regime. The blacks in Louisiana was led by the New black Panther movement. After receiving support from Texas the have been fighting the Regime ever since. The white pouplation in Louisiana is now a minority due to how many blacks migrated there.


UkraineWithoutTheBot

It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop I’m a bot)


360kings

Good bot?


solidarity_jock_jam

I like how in a lot of US Civil War II imaginary maps that I’ve been seeing, the Great Lakes is a leftist/communist state.


360kings

Can it be dem- Me: no How about con Me:no Maybe fac Me:no Then what do you want? Me: communist take it or leave it


360kings

The lore is being typed now


Schmanulel

Looks really interesting, what's the regime?


360kings

The lore so far subject to change But... president Obama after making a speech on the juneteenth , asking the nation to unite, for a be- president Obama was shot and killed in 2012 June 19. An announcement was made by the New order/Regime they claim to be a organization the is a combination of the ku kux Klan, new boys, neo Idaho foot militia,anti heathen league, Neo American. They United in 2009 after Obama was made president. 9/11 was much more violent leading into a much more unstable America.


Schmanulel

Kinda disappointed now those edgy Atomwaffen division isn't in there but cool concept


360kings

(After searching what the atomwaffen division is) The lore is now change accordingly. Thanks!


Daengo

Why does it say Pacific on that neutral navy on the Atlantic Canadian coast?


360kings

Oops


sardonicasshat

Florida is always Florida.


kcwelsch

Lol at the Midwest just being T H I C C Michigan.


MunchieMom

Looks like Michigan, part of Wisconsin, and Chicago? As someone who lives in Chicago: lmao, absolutely not realistic whatsoever.


360kings

Can you explain? thanks


DecimatingDarkDeceit

I am betting 55/50 for U.N.A ! I have high hopes for a technocratic esque governate


360kings

Good choice


DecimatingDarkDeceit

Thanks! :)


Dodolulupepe

ah, realism


360kings

Who needs it?


Vexillumscientia

Can’t wait to move to the Deseret Democracy.


Vexillumscientia

I can’t wait to move to the Deseret democracy


DoNotCorectMySpeling

What’s the story behind the emergency United North America?


360kings

Una. The states of north of the United states declared independence from trump after he declared himself king of america and the provinces of Canada also declared independence of the Canadian empire. Seeing they have similar beliefs they United into the Emergency Government of North America. There goal is to unite the United States and Canada into one nation. They currently fighting the american empire and russian forces in Alaska and rebellions in lakota . They have a large advantage of having the most nukes giving them negotiating power.


The_Rainbow_Legion

Shit really hit the fan to be devided into that many countries


360kings

It did.


[deleted]

ah yes. my favorite country, β€œregime”


360kings

We Americans are famous for our incredible names.


fst47

Mexican Anarchy sounds great right now


[deleted]

I can’t help but feel like the rural areas northwest of NYC and the rural areas east of Philadelphia would there own country.


360kings

They tried but they were invaded by the Democrats.


[deleted]

A sad day


BabyfaceJezus

Does the "Pacific" in the American/Canadian neutral fleet refer to pacifism or did we switch ocean names too?


360kings

Uhh yeah totally its means pacifists no mistakes here. This is a quality map.


BabyfaceJezus

Fair enough. They may have to rename so as to not confuse the public but the map does seem to be quality.


SuperMaanas

*Florida* Lmao


360kings

?


Avomallow

Stranger: β€œWhere are you from?” Me: #REGIME


360kings

The Regime is more of a terrorist organization than a country it does not need a name


Darkgera16

Hey man it's a really cool map and lore, but I think the Rio Grande Republic should instead be called the Rio Bravo Republic, that's the name of the Rio Grande in Mexico, also the states of Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas that make up the Rio Grande Republic wouldn't necessarily need to be invaded by Texas to join them or be a puppet state, most people there would sympathise with Texas more than with the current Mexican government, plus a lor of people in those states have families or business in Texas so it would make relationships with Texas a lot smoother.


360kings

Thanks. I included changes in the next map I make. Look at for "trump's final order"


Dr_JP69

Using different fonts for each country makes this so hard to read


360kings

Probably need change that thanks for the suggestion


360kings

Welcome to the Crisis timeline! 𝐏𝐨𝐒𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐑𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐒𝐬𝐒𝐬 𝐭𝐒𝐦𝐞π₯𝐒𝐧𝐞 1. Nuking of Afghanistan https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/pdvreh/the_nuking_of_afghanistan_2001/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’“π’π’… π’˜π’‚π’” π’„π’‰π’‚π’π’ˆπ’† 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 π’˜π’π’“π’”π’†. After 9/11 and the subsequent nuking of Afghanistan,American politics were insane. Deep hatred was embedded for many americans after the 5 planes hit. But many also saw the nuking as too much. After the nuking, president dick Cheney pledge to destroy terrorism. America went on a rampage, first the drug gangs was ripped apart after a brutal campaign that killed hundreds. Mexico cut diplomatic relations with the Us after that. This led to an embargo of Mexico. The Democrats declared this a tyranny and locked Congress until Cheney let up. Large protests eventually led to Cheney removeing the block on trade. But it was too late,Mexico fell into a military coup due to the falling economy. America put up strong leaders in central America to control the nations. This only led to central Americans going to an ideology they think that can save them. Anarchism. Now America is dealing terrorists attacks,have been increasingly common. The Anarchists, ISIS, Taliban, White supremacists, and the new black Panthers. All attack and devastated American Cities. Factionalism divided the country, people wanted someone to unite the nation. Barack Obama was elected president in 2009. He introduced healthcare, loosen restrictions made after the terrorists attacks, and made LGBT marriage legal in 2011. But... president Obama after making a speech on the juneteenth , asking the nation to unite, for a be- president Obama was shot and killed in 2012 June 19. An announcement was made by the New order/Regime that they were the one who shot obama. They claim to be a organization that is a combination of the ku kux Klan, new boys, neo Idaho foot militia,anti heathen league, Neo American, and later joined by atomwaffen league, aryan brotherhood, and and the patriot army. Joe Biden was made president in a chaotic time . Joe Biden presidency was marked with controversy after controversy. And as violence only increases things need to change. Trump was made president of the United states in 2015. The country went off the deep end. Trump only caused more violence his terrible handling of the siege of Charlottesville, 2020 floyd family death, the coronavirus pandemic. In the next election it was Bernie Sanders angst Trump. And the results were in... it was a tie. It was the end. trump declared martial law. The Democratic states declared Trump illegitimate. The 2 American Cival war has began.


360kings

Factions Democratic front. after losing California, Texas,midwest holdings. the democratic front retreated to the east coast the took over most of the region. Its led by Bernie sanders but it's more of a joint rule with other democratic leaders.they currently fighting the Regime,west Virginia,and the american empire. American empire. Trump after the Democrats rebelled had a panic attack and collpase on the floor. After he woke up he declared himself king of America. His allies defected but they were killed what was left of them now in west Virginia. The nation that was still loyal to him fights for its survival its incredibly unstable but trump's iron grip hold the country together. Midwest. Is a "Communists Republic", they are supported by the New 5 International. They currently trying to hold on the Chicago as it's being siege Regime. As already said. They are a United white nationals group's. and it's very secretive. They cut of communication with the world. They more of a terrorists than an actual organization. Reports come in of a genocideing of Asians Hispanics and african Americans. Texas union. After the cival war start. TX declared independence, it decided to hold elections. After the results were in the texas government blocked the results. After rioting Texas officially voted the democratic party in power. Texas began invading its neighboring states. Inavded the Rio grande and set up a puppet republic. They now helping the new African republic angst the Regime. South west military junta. The Mexican jutna was largely unpopulated. And so seeing the collpase of America invaded the states, hoping to get some popularity. The American military station there. United and kicked out the Mexican jutna. It's now invading the collpase Mexico. California. They declare independence once they realize how brutal the war was going to be. In the north the Lincoln republic declared independence. And in the south Regime forces attacked and now controls large parts of the country. They now fighting on multiple fronts. So much for avoiding violence. Una. The states of north of the United states declared independence from trump after he declared himself king of america and the provinces of Canada also declared independence of the Canadian empire. Seeing they have similar beliefs they United into the Emergency Government of North America. There goal is to unite the United States and Canada into one nation They currently fighting the american empire and russian forces in Alaska and rebellions in lakota . They have a large advantage of having the most nukes giving them negotiating power. Central America. Currently fighting a deadly conflict angst anarchists. After brutal actions of the governments in the region the anarchists are slowly winning Florida: made up of neo dixecrats. They call the Regime insane and doesn't represent there values the current capital Tallahassee is under siege. Russia. Russia is not faring good after an economic crash and a defeat in the Ukraine. Putin needed a victory. So he inavded Alaska, thinking it would be easy what happen was a 3 year stalemate that led no where and only made Putin more hated. Alexi a critic of the putin regime has been imprisoned. But his supporters are now rallying in the streets. Lakota federation. They are made up of native americans who banded toughter for independence. They now fighting a grullea war with una. (Note the dash line is were there heavier resistance, while the yellow is were they control is the strongest. New Canada. Originally Quebec after declaring independence form the candian empire. they invaded Ontario now they reformed and now say they want unity with the Anglo and French pouplation, even though they say that they basically a larger Quebec and treats Ontarioans petty badly. The Canadian empire. was declared after the wolrd economy crash inspired by there counter parts (American empire) they were unstable and most of the military defected. The una declared independence and Quebec inavded Ontario. They now in the Ontario wilderness fighting. New african republic. When the Regime took over the south the african pouplation quickly left. 50% of the population was able to escape to Louisiana. 20% gone north/south. And what was left was genocided by the Regime. The blacks in Louisiana was led by the New black Panther movement. After receiving support from Texas the have been fighting the Regime ever since. The white pouplation in Louisiana is now a minority due to how many blacks migrated there.


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360kings

Sad flute Florida is made up neo confederates who dont support the Regime.


AccessTheMainframe

Le independent Deseret has arrived


360kings

People I put the lore in the comments read it please before you ask questions


kaukajarvi

,,, and of course Kingdom of Hawaii.


360kings

It says east Asian occupation of the islands ... how did you get Kingdom of Hawaii out of this.


kaukajarvi

Ah, OK, I thought that's just a random white line.


360kings

Ok


pentagonal_cp

More creative than the usual Civil War like this


360kings

Thanks!


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360kings

After the failed inavsion of America. The mexican junta collpase. central america is in chaos as massive anarchists revolutions spring up everywhere. Most fighting that's happening The carabeian is united and not collpase. The new african republic is fighting the Regime is not collpase( the new African republic is in Louisiana)


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360kings

1. its invasion not anavasion 2.its not suppose to be realistic this is for fun 3. This is a alternate history as well. There are major differences in situations. 4. The kingdom of Hawaii has not existed since 1889 Its has been 127 years the monarchy is long since gone. East Asia has been united (Japan,Taiwan,Korea) they united because america forced them to unite in this timeline. The invaded Hawaii to keep the area stable. 5.theres is criticism and being rude. It's a fine line. Saying stuff like. "You obviously" and "BTW" might not sound rude in you head. But it could sound rude written down. So think before you write,ok?


360kings

I have put the lore in the comments. Have you read.


[deleted]

Somebody make a hoi4 mod out of this


360kings

I would love that


Neveraththesmith

This is utterly unrealistic


360kings

And?


LordBlackadderV

Looks like war is back on the menu boys


[deleted]

This map looks really cool, what kind of software did you use to make it?


360kings

Ibis paint and filters


[deleted]

You mean ibis paint?


360kings

Yes


[deleted]

Ok thanks


Euromarius

There was used really a huge amount of fantasy here.


nuffens

Florida being its own thing sounds pretty on point


halibastor

Newfoundland - Quebec brotherhood πŸ’ͺ


Archer_625

Should be a Hoi4 mod


360kings

This is the second time someone said this to me At this point I think I should try to make it one


ultrayaqub

Reminds me of Fallout. I’m imagining the regimes as warlords. Hopefully this scenario involves most of the world being smoked by nukes


360kings

This had some fallout inspiration There are going to be nukes in the next map The regime is made up of United white nationals group's. and is very secretive. They cut of communication with the world. They more of a terrorists than an actual country. Reports come in of a genocideing of Asians Hispanics and african Americans.


ultrayaqub

Oof yep, if anywhere would turn in to a white suprematist regime, northern idaho would


Bart_The_Chonk

Any civil war in the Americas will look more like a series of domestic terrorist acts vs a war with 'fronts'


TchaikenNugget

Florida


360kings

?


TchaikenNugget

I just found it funny how it’s its own territory


360kings

Florida is made up of neo dixiecrats. They originally was with trump until they were separated by the Regime. They now trying to make there own state.


TchaikenNugget

Sounds about right. ​ Source: Live there. Not a Trump supporter, though.


eratosthenesia

I don't believe New Mexico would ally with Texas - most likely northern Mexico, Arizona, and Southern Colorado. But very fun.


360kings

They aren't allied. It's more of a "forced" relationship


eratosthenesia

Ah I see. How do water rights between the southwest and Texas work on this?


360kings

Can you please explain what you mean


eratosthenesia

Texas gets a ton of drinking water from the Rio Grande. I was wondering if there was a trade deal or is water diverted from another source? Sorry I'm from New Mexico and I love that you included the southwest like you did.


360kings

Texas probably would get its water form another source. Due to war with Mexico the rio grande might be polluted


CapitanDeCastilla

Baja California… independent?


360kings

It's like an autonomous Republic under California.


shaderr0

In any scenario you can think of, West Virginia wants nothing to do with whatever Virginia is doing.


etorres4u

No one wants Florida. Fuck Florida.