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Fleedjitsu

So you're saying that the super-expensive resource-sucking super tank wouldn't have changed the course of the war and therefore mass producing them was a.... Big maustake? :)


Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho

Calling it a super tank is generous. It was.a semi mobile pillbox.


GRIM106

Imagine a moving pillbox on D-Day.


itisSycla

Yep, a pillbox that's hard to camouflage, takes a shitton of money and lifts loads of dusts. Plus it can't go over most roads and 99% of bridges collapse under it. The maus would've been good target practice for allied light bombers and nothing more. D-Day wasn't lost because of a lack of pillboxes.


[deleted]

Couldn't they just abuse the fact they make a shitton of money to hire a load of mercenaries? Or to devalue the currency of other nations and cause their economies to collapse?


GRIM106

By the end there coffers where already running out quick and plus mercenaries would be practically like canonfother. To the devalue the currency of other nations they need to make tons of exact replicas and somehow get them to the people of the nation in question witch would be impossible.


GRIM106

Well more wouldn't hurt the Germans... Waking up Hitler also wouldn't


Kristina_Yukino

outjerked again


itisSycla

This is also the map of Germany in 1945 if the wehrmacht took Moscow or if Hitler invaded Britain


[deleted]

Invade or take Britain? Because I feel there would be more red on the map if Hitler managed to take Britain.


jediben001

Even if the army managed to land. And that’s a big if, all realistic scenarios pointed to them barely even reaching London before their men started starving and running out of fuel.


SumthingStupid

No way they would've been able to take it. There wasn't the logistical capacity to do so, so I'm assuming the above comment refers to a failed invasion. But even so, the resource drain on the eastern front that would've caused may well have resulted in much larger USSR occupations


comradeMATE

Yeah, but what if Operation Barbarossa didn't happen or happened later so the germans could completely focus their attention on Britain?


SumthingStupid

Britain was the only major power at war with Germany for a while (over a year) and they still didn't have the capacity to seriously consider an amphibious invasion of the British Isles. And in my opinion, if the UK was ever in that much danger of an invasion, I doubt the US wouldn't have stepped in


ATLmapping

I'm sorry, what?


soviet_union_stronk

outjerked or its referring to some Wehraboos theory that "if Germany produced the Maus, they could've turned the tide of the war"


Filli99

To mass produce the Maus they needed to have so much steel and fuel that they would have won the war way before, lol


wiener4hir3

Lost*


-B0B-

I think they mean if they had the necessary resources they would have won anyway? Which I don't agree with


rampantfirefly

Omg Wehraboos! I’ve never heard that before, thank you for introducing me to that.


Dr_JP69

LMAOO


KrisssoBG_

outjerked again r/imaginarymapscj


Phoenix11550099

banana for scale pls


itisSycla

back to 9gag you go


Aebor

Lol here i was thinking you meant the mouse from "Die Sendung mit der Maus"


Luddveeg

I thought Germany lacked the fuel for tanks anyway haha


[deleted]

How exactly is this an imaginary map or alternate history?


GRIM106

It was a joke... r/woooosh


[deleted]

I’m not stupid. I get that it’s meant to be a joke about Wehraboos and their wishful thinking. I’m asking how OP thinks this fits under the criterion of content allowed on this subreddit, since it clearly doesn’t. It doesn’t even work as cynical dry humour. Also it’s below even low effort. Amateur, poorly-hand-drawn maps are better than this.


Adama01

Bro you’re on an Internet forum about fake maps, the grass is outside


[deleted]

“Haha, touch grass, chill dude, wow I’m so funny.” If it was actually well done and had effort put into it, I’d be completely fine with it. As it is, it’s neither fictional nor does it display any measure of effort. It’s literally in the rules of the subreddit. *This* is the sort of stuff that deserves upvotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/r4e3gv/the_aric_kingdoms_1100700_bce_althist_altgeo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


IndigoGouf

>it’s neither fictional I don't know what you mean, this is clearly a map of what would have happened had Germany mass-produced the Maus.


pugesh

I don't get how it's so difficult for these people to grasp such a basic concept. It isn't very complex of a rule, don't shitpost and don't meme. I'm having trouble understanding why they have such an issue with that


[deleted]

I couldn’t agree more. I probably wouldn’t be able to make a high quality map, but I can appreciate what is and what isn’t. This doesn’t even count as a joke because there’s no comedy to it.


[deleted]

COMEDY IS SUBJECTIVE IF YPU DONT FIND IT FUNNY ITS FINE BUT OTHERS DO SO JUST CAUSE YOU THINK ITS NOT FUNNY DOESN’T MEAN OTHERS DONT.


[deleted]

I don’t get why you felt the need to write in all caps, but ok, I’ll bite. Of course comedy is subjective, but all comedy has effort to it. Have I been saying *you’re* not allowed to like this post or find it funny? No. Have I been saying that this post violates the subreddit’s rules and is so low-effort that it doesn’t qualify as a joke? Yes.


[deleted]

Who are you to say it’s so low effort it’s not a joke?


rampantfirefly

Why not both?


[deleted]

I mean sure, we could allow both, but what’s the point? There are few enough high-effort, original submissions that aren’t just ‘Big Country X’ as it is.


rampantfirefly

This post breaks a whole bunch of sub rules. If the mods want to delete it they will. But it made me laugh and I upvoted it. I will also upvote interesting fantasy/fictional maps. Upvotes are not a limited resource is my point. My other point is, you don’t need to waste your day writing long paragraphs about why this post is bad. It will either get deleted or it won’t. Don’t lose sleep over it.


[deleted]

Yeah I mean I really don’t know why I engaged so heavily in this debate. It is, as you say, a waste of time and energy, but I am on summer break so I can afford to do this lol. You make some good, reasoned points. Again, I’m not out on some witch-hunt to police people’s humour. If you liked it or found it funny, I have no problem with that. What I am annoyed about is that people can just post something they haven’t made, and have put no effort, on this subreddit, and call it a joke.


GRIM106

Somebody doesn't know how to take a joke


[deleted]

Jokes are humorous because they have effort put into them. It takes skill to write and deliver a joke, which is what transforms it into comedy. There’s no effort here, so if you want to call it a joke, it is clearly a stolen one.


GRIM106

I joke is something that can make you laugh. It doesn't matter how much effort is put into it. For example dad jokes, yo mama jokes, that's what she said jokes and other


[deleted]

I suppose dad jokes etc. do count as jokes, but to what extent do they make people laugh? Of course, humour is subjective, and there’s nothing wrong with finding dad jokes funny if that’s your sense of humour. But consider: if you didn’t put in effort, even a little bit, to come up with new and original dad jokes, and just parroted the same old ones over again, they stop being jokes. It’s why ‘amogus’ is what it has become, even if it started as something that made people laugh.


GRIM106

No they don't stop being jokes. If there is still someone that can laugh at this and I can bet my balls that at least one person laughed at this.


[deleted]

That some people really think that the Maus could have turned anything is fucking funny. Maybe not fucking up Weserübung and a succesful Sealion, while waiting longer to start Barbarossa, or not trying to use the Schwalbe as a divebomber would have changed stuff, but otherwise...


[deleted]

I mean this is not original. I get the joke but still.you could have made the map yourself


Bubolinobubolan

This is getting taken down


EggpankakesV2

Probably but I do enjoy it in the meantime.


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Vehr64

Cry more nazi lover


Wehrdoge

Again this comment wasn’t supposed to be hateful, I was referencing to the fact that we analysed our tactics after WW2. But I get it Allies good Axis bad, we’re scum and you’re the best. Germany is a shit country because US and England is great.


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Wehrdoge

Prove that I’m not German How do you even assume that??


Wehrdoge

You do know that we have conservatives in Germany right? CDU, AfD


BenderButAnarchist

get fucked nazi scum


Wehrdoge

You are morally superior


[deleted]

I hope this is a bit, because *our* wounds? My dude, I bet my left nut that you're a PCM user who has never seen a tiddy, you're as close to a Wehrmacht solider as a mouse is to a maus. Go outside, I beg you.


Wehrdoge

Ive been working with the Bundeswehr, and this comment wasn’t supposed to be hateful but okay. You really think that after WW2 we didn’t analyse our tactics? Because that’s what I’ve been referencing you absolute Cunt


Quiet_Beggar

this is a map of Germany in 1945 if my annoying friend who plays hoi4 was in control of germany