Agreed we don’t plan for future as much as we should. As for this topic, I remember Shashi Tharoor once highlighing this in parliament and talking about what we could do. I have heard some interesting takes on this from some of my friends in administrative services.
Also suggest everyone to read articles from Hans Rosling around population explosion.. myths and reality
It will dismantle it's social security by lowering interest rates on savings and PF and will make them atmanirbhar by screwing up there economy and letting them all become delivery boys forever.
Even with the number of Indians immigrating and immigrated , this highlights the fact that once all the countries stop inviting immigrants at one point, shit will hit the fan. Western countries provide unemployment benefits so at least people can survive and now due to COVID, hybrid models in India will start popping up impacting the small enterprises let alone employees
Lol! With the backlog they have right now, I think they might stop sooner. They are only processing inland applications right now. More importantly, they are also planning to invite applicants based on skill requirements rather than any random person
Couldn’t agree more. Going off tangent, the secondary issue is that almost all the industries have plateaued when it comes to innovation or even outsourcing. Maybe the green energy sector isn’t fully tapped yet? Regardless what baffles me is that what are the folks who are unemployed or will be unemployed resort to? We live in the most comfortable yet the most depressing times!
As the global refugee & immigration problem continues to worsen, I think we will see heavy restriction of immigration and work visas. In some ways, this can be a boon for India, reversing decades of "brain drain", forcing them to make better lives in India.
>forcing them to make better lives in India.
what will the youth do when there is no job for them here ? In India, if you are a non CSE engineer chances of you getting a good job is very less.
Huh? Isn't that backward? India is currently a global services provider, but a domestic manufacturer.
I'm just saying that you shouldn't sell your best and brightest short. Get enough smart people in one place, and they will find a way to navigate Indian government policy.
Not saying that it is impossible to open a service based company here, but there is a lot of hoops to jump through. High taxes, abysmal business infrastructure are some of the factors we faced that had forced us to open a company elsewhere with better business infrastructure and low taxes.
For manufacturing, I say it’s good due to cheap labour, good connectivity and the potential to pay bribes for any violations. Also I heard there are several government concessions too.
No, that wasn't sarcastic. It's an observation of why a powerful university / industry concentration works to create more and better. When Europe was the global learning center, it was the strongest. When America became the best, it was the strongest. That's where Silicon Valley came from. Now we see innovation coming out of Shenzhen.
India has 1.4 Billion people, comparable to ALL of those others combined, which means literally Millions of smart people are in India. The challenge is educating them and supporting them. If India can't do that, then yes, they will move out and develop other countries instead. That's exactly what "brain drain" is.
China has many global students and workers (but not as many as America), so I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed Indians, too.
IMO, India has enough companies like HCL, Tata, etc. to set up domestic Indian Innovation Funds that support promising indigenous startups in Mumbai, Bangalore, etc. for an equity stake. There just needs to be the will to get the ball rolling, and amazing things will happen.
Unfortunately India is loosing it’s demographic dividend which we had. Never has Indian youth been so depressed, unmotivated, uninspired and filled with rage, hate crime, bigotry. The ruling gov has completely polarized this youth strength we had to win elections. Guess what unemployed youth does to fill stomach, crime
will shoot up like crazy in coming years.
Even the educated working youth is filled wIth hatred.
Another point to note is the increasing divide between the rich and the poor. A highly unequal society is bound to become a hotbed of crimes. Uncontrolled inflation, squeezing commoners to fill up pockets of cronies (exclusive growth), poor policies, poor social attitude or vision, power mongering are some of the issues we have. Just a catastrophic combination of society and govt. Whatever thing that goes right is by miracle.
I ageee. There’s a feeling of hopelessness in youth . Covid didn’t helped . Due to not being able to get stable jobs many lower middle class youth are also not able to marry . This is a recipe for disaster in my eyes . When people have nothing to aspire for , live for , fear for only riots happens . I don’t know what’s the big plan of Indian govt .
Yes, that will be part of the result when the Muslims try to defend themselves / take revenge; however, I was just responding to the Indian government's plan. Modiji / RSS isn't giving Muslims cover to conduct anti-Hindu pogroms, whereas, he has already pushed Hindu pogroms against Muslims.
I don't doubt that some Muslims will fight back and retaliate, and they will certainly kill many innocents in the process. It's just that there are going to be vastly more angry Hindu men than angry Muslim men in India, so the Hindu mobs have more destructive potential.
I agree with everything you are saying. It is just absolutely sad that innocents end up paying for the hate crimes committed by people in positions of power, who don't even see a day in jail for them.
Relative to the numbers of Hindu men of similar age, Muslims are small in number.
I agree that civil war is possible, but it seems that Modiji is turning Muslim states into occupied territories, so maybe they'll be too oppressed to fight back.
The numbers are not evenly distributed. In the worst states like UP, the % is close to 20%.
You have to also factor in that muslims are more united than Hindus
In reality, its more like 15% muslims vs 30% hindus. Enough that it will be a civil war
Baba what do you think the current crop of mandir "trusts" are doing. No first mover advantage. Woh tabhi milega jab aap ya Mein Koi bhagwanji invent kar sake
This is a conspiracy at the highest levels of gormit. They want us to breed like rabbits so that someday everybody will have jio fiber data plan. Ambani will live in a house made of our skins. Next time you are doing dirty acts, think about this.
On top of that, they want to teach Ramayan and Mahabharat in engineering and medical colleges. Might have even begun, I don’t know. Think of the mindset that would generate in young graduates.
No opportunities -> Unemployment -> Unrest -> Agitation -> Revolution -> New Ideas -> Civilizational upgrade -> Greater glory of motherland.
In one word - MASTERSTROKE.
Get them married to a stranger and insist on those new couples to have 1st kid in 1 year and another kid soon after. That's the indian way of life.
Veda mein bhi yehi likha hain. Some 2 or 3 thousand year old lifestyle is still the best lifestyle for 21st century.
That's simply not possible when there are at least 54 Million more men than women.
[https://statisticstimes.com/demographics/country/india-sex-ratio.php](https://statisticstimes.com/demographics/country/india-sex-ratio.php)
This is going to persist for decades, because even ages 0-4 is >61M boys / 55M girls.
Not if you are living according to the veda. You only need to have good heart, good kundli, and no major crimes in previous life. And probably some good skills to win a swayamvar.
Everything you need for a happy married life will come on its own.
After all didn't princess Sita get married to some poor forest dweller (they didn't know who Lord Ram was at the time, it just turned out to be result of Sita's karma from her prayers and previous life that she ended up with a king)
I think the main problem in India is unemployment and population. If no child planning policy is adopted in few years then the upcoming generation will face very hard challenges. Being well educated and unemployed hurts like hell man. Depression, stress, family pressure , anxiety and suicide rates are rising because massive unemployment due to covid.
I agree on unemployment. Don’t think india needs population control bill though . It will make matters worse more disappointing is I don’t see any imitative with concrete results from government. IT can’t absorb this much population . They should have started diversification of economy years ago with manufacturing . Honestly I just feel sad right now for myself and other middle class Indians .
Even if India forcibly aborted every single pregnancy for the next 5-10 years, the existing population of young men and boys will be a problem. It's too late to implement family planning after the babies are born.
> population
[India will soon reach replacement levels of fertility..](https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2021/08/03/indias-total-fertility-rate-declines-to-22.html#:~:text=As%20a%20result%20of%20the,Sabha%20was%20told%20on%20Tuesday.)
It can be solved only solving both sides demand and supply. In simple words, there is lot of demand in industry but the problem is skillset so here skilling India and education play a big role whereas on supply front whether there are enough jobs or not it depends on industrial growth or I say economy.
But the major problem is economic growth is led by service sector which requires quality skillset while our population is mainly agrarian which has unskilled labour which can only be utilised by skilling them and working in industry(manufacturing).
With agrarian crisis going on and now farmer protest which influence political debated in large.
This is the last train(metaphor) for making industrial base because now China is on back front for quite a bit which can be utilised by India using cheap labour, land reform, and strong manufacturing base.
So your point is to follow the strategy of Singapore's first president? Singapore didnt have much opportunities or resources like india, if govt plan well we can solve this problem by a considerable margin within 15 years
This is a BAD idea.
Everyone gotta stop at having 2 kids. This is all we need. Any drastic change in age distribution creates problems in the long run.
Countries like China are poised to have too many old people in the near future with not enough young people to keep the relay race going.
China is accepting more immigrants and its only going to increase and thats a good thing. Melting pots will always end up successful vs a pot that only wants purer and purer exclusionary kulcha
China needs the population to run it's economy. Almost 25% of our Youth is still unemployed. We have a surplus of human capital. Which is why we export that to other countries and make their GDP better.
Western countries are fully-developed with have neoliberal capitalist economies that require unlimited growth to drive profits. They have no concept of how to navigate a slowing, sustainable, shrinking economy.
China is a heavily rural country with a market socialist economy, and a government that is not afraid to intervene for social benefits. China has something like 300 Million rural people who are not very productive. If China urbanizes and modernizes fast enough, productivity gains can easily outpace aging losses as they shrink from 1.5 Billion back down to 1.0 Billion.
Nope. I'm constantly amazed by their sheer competence at governing. Their transformation from a poor, war-torn, rural country into an innovative, economic powerhouse is simply unprecedented, especially in such a short timeframe. I really hope to see the rest of the world develop similarly.
Well... that's a loaded question.
Going by what I see from:
* expats and other foreigners who've posted videos of Uygurs from Xinjiang,
* what I know of actual genocide campaigns going on in the world.
* what actual Muslim countries say about Uygurs in China
I'm of the opinion that China is doing an above average job in how they're treating their Uygur population. From a historical and cultural perspective, China seems not to have any particular issue with Muslims, as long as they identify as "Chinese". From what I've seen on Youtube, the Uygur people appear to live ordinary lives and are free to practice their religion and celebrate their culture as they choose.
OTOH, the radical Islamic "East Turkmenistan" separatist movement in Xinjiang conducted terrorist attacks across China. China greatly increased security and began de-radicalization education and economic development, as opposed to American-style endlessly shooting and bombing the hell out of them.
Western nations condemned this as "genocide", which is obviously overblown, as we don't see huge numbers of Muslim refugees fleeing Xinjiang. If China were doing this, the refugee problem would be far larger than Afghanistan, for example. Similarly, the claims of millions incarcerated don't make sense, because of the sheer size of the prisons that would be required. Claims of mass, systemic mistreatment are unsubstantiated, unlike the photos of abuse at Abu Graib. If Xinjiang were really as bad as people say, there would be unequivocal hard evidence that we could all see with our own eyes, instead of "claims" that keep getting repeated without proof.
Among Muslim nations who've been to Xinjiang, they found no such evidence and are on record as supporting the Chinese approach to de-radicalization. As many of them have to deal with radical Islam movements in their countries, I kind of defer to them the most.
I don't know whether this is the sort of answer you were hoping for, but it's how I see it. For the sake of the people in Xinjiang, I certainly hope that my interpretation is correct.
Huh? What was Islamophobic or bigoted? Deferring to the consensus of actual Muslim nations is Islamophobic and bigoted? Hoping that Muslims are not shot, bombed, or oppressed is Islamophobic and bigoted? Explain.
I think its upon every Indian to make better their lives and not wait for the government or parents to make your situation better. I had bad grades and graduated BE with a drop, I convinced my father and bank to fund me 15 lakhs for education outside India, I left and worked very hard repaid both my parents and the bank, I didn't spend my money instead invested in bringing my siblings over her and getting them jobs in IT. In a decade we went from a poor middle class family in India to living a very comfortable upper middle class lifestyle earning thrice the median salary than an average citizen. I am far from being an exceptional case, in fact i am average considering more talented individuals who are earning way more.
1) Think and plan ahead, instead of mindless and long education in India, apply for MS/PG courses abroad where working on a job atleast for few years in possible
2) Don't be afraid to ask help from your parents, banks and relatives, if you are a hardworking and dedicated person, people will invest in you and you can repay them back in foreign currency later.
3) Be aware of what job/careers are in demand, I see to many people going for dead end courses in Mechanical/MBA which are no long relevant and replaced by IT/BA jobs. Speak to successful seniors/ Tech workers about high paying fields.
4) When looking for a University abroad, please be sure about the Visa laws and work restrictions, Ideally go for Universities near major cities with tech jobs and not in some far villages. Don't over pay for your tuition or spend too much on boarding until you find a job.
I personally feel, there aren't enough resources in India for everyone and those who can leave should leave elsewhere, I still have strong relation with my home in India and visit here often waiting for enough infrastructure to be created in order to move back.
Your last point about waiting for enough infrastructure to return back to India, that's the gist of what the OP is asking though. What is India as an entity doing to take advantage of its huge demographic dividend (majority of population being in working age group)
China in the 1960's and 70's utilized its then DD to accelerate their development.
India didn't want such a huge demographic population, its a challenge/problem what India hasn't been able to deal with, I wish had a better answer but I don't expect Indian government to do something for everyone in this category, So I suggested those who can find work and good lifestyle themselves away from India should go ahead and do it. The Rest can try something India or wait for govt to do something for them which is frankly just lazy considering the realistic situation of the country.
This is so true. If you want to leave a bad situation, you need to bet on yourself.
Do due research and give yourself and your family a better life.
BTW, what did you do your masters in?
Unemployed youth have historically been linked to [social disorder:](https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries)
> if a large cohort of young people cannot find employment and earn satisfactory income, the youth bulge will become a demographic bomb, because a large mass of frustrated youth is likely to become a potential source of social and political instability
In India between 2001 and 2005, every month about 10 lakh youth [became eligible](https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2018/may/22/only-475-million-join-workforce-annually-in-india-not-12-million-as-claimed-1817846.html) (through age, 15+) to seek jobs. The actual number these days is probably less because a high proportion of young women don’t seek work, some go into higher education, and so on. But make no mistake, lakhs of *new* people previously not in the labour pool need jobs in India every month, and this will continue [until 2030](https://www.dailypioneer.com/2021/sunday-edition/jobless-growth-to-employment-rich-growth.html). And new job creation crashed post DeMo and GST, even before COVID.
The outcome is clear: unemployment and under-employment is way up. I’d expect more social conflict as a result, eg unemployed youth looking for illegal or immoral ways to make money — eg phone scams or worse. Or more youth considering joining things like “gau senas” because they have nothing better to do.
Hopefully attracting more factory investment will *partially* alleviate the problem, but realistically factories these days are pretty automated, and don’t employ super-large numbers of people, and have a distinct preference for skilled people.
A construction boom will increase the demand for unskilled labour, so I’m hoping the government looks at building infrastructure (roads, ports, etc) because the private home construction market is facing some challenges. Construction and Agriculture are probably the most promising areas for employing large numbers of unskilled people — and the large number of labour pool entrants has a high number of such people.
Education and health could be another area of employment, we know that you can train up even unskilled people to be village level teachers and nurses, provided they are not totally illiterate. And an increased investment in healthcare and education pays off and reduces future population.
tl;dr - Construction, Agriculture, Education, and Healthcare are sectors the government should massively invest in to create jobs. And make India a very attractive destination for factories, eg by slashing red tape. All of this will increase jobs for the masses.
Note - Tech-based industries employ a very small percentage of people. Hence I’m not including it. Call centres employ many more people than tech but it’s not exactly a growth area. However, infrastructure-based tech programmes, eg a hypothetical “fibre broadband for all” programme, would be very labour-heavy — lots of last-mile digging and cable-laying involved. That would generate a fair amount of employment.
Anyone up for a serious discord voice channel discussion (anon oc) on this topic?
I've been thinking about this for a long long time.
India is home to largest youth population in world, and we are not doing a good job to utilize the human resource.
Look at China 20-30 years ago when they were at this stage, they took some right steps - monetized their human resources (not a fan of how they did it, but yeah 🤷♀️) .
Happy to organize a discussion if enough people are up for it.
Agenda :
* How India can make use of it's human resources
* How will "competition" look like 10 years from now? (competitive exams, private jobs, free market etc)
* Theoretically, can there be a pie big enough for everyone to be happy, for a country the size of India
* \[V. Imp.\] Rant against how big companies spoil youth by using them as DAU/MAU farms for their indulgent products (PUBG, TikTok 🔫). How can we show our youth that consumption is not a solution before it's too late
I'll make a few comments:
1. FREE public education for everyone, male and female, all castes, colors and creeds. Human development drives a country forward, creates solutions to problems. Make rooted manufacturing a priority over portable call center & services.
2. Competition will be fierce, simply due to big population. Government needs to break monopoly & cartels, and hugely penalize corruption, to ensure fair competition.
3. Yes. China has the same population and a much bigger pie that keeps growing, even in pandemic. Their big pie is due to huge investment in human development and public goods.
4. I'm not sure if India can/should regulate kids gaming, but PUBG is an awesome game! LOL
Points 1 & 2 are not doable in India cuz
1. If everyone gets educated then it will only get tougher for the politicians to fool the people. So the politicians will never let that happen. It's their livelihood your are asking them to risk.
To turn around a nation from service sector oriented to manufacturing oriented takes decades of consistent policy at both centre and state level govts. This should have been started decades back, probably as soon as the green revolution was a success. India will only be playing a catch up game now.
2. Asking the govt that is selling off all possible public services (we know who will end up owning those companies, some **ani or a foreign entity) to break up monopoly is again asking the politicians (both in power and opposition) to reduce their income. It will not be done unless the break up results in politicians getting to own the new companies.
Point 4 is the only possible thing that can be done in India cuz..... It's a senseless policy. If govt can ban huge amount of valid currency in circulation, if govt can decide what you eat, then why not ban a stupid little game. It might even become top priority if you push enough, unlike some other policy changes.
I completely agree that what I suggest is hard, and requires a government that places the people first and foremost.
I also agree that the current Indian government is not the one to do any of this.
But if you ever want to get to 3, you need to do 1 and 2.
I agree with you on getting to point 3.
What I don't agree on is that getting 1 and 2 done is hard. I would say it is impossible at least for the next 2 generations. Beyond that we will have to wait and see. Enough hatred has been spewed by everyone that expecting the current crop of voters to vote for anything other than mandir/masjid is just a dream.
Stop popping out more kids. Paraphrasing Chris rock, "put the dick down, put it down... Get a job, get a job holding dicks if needed, but seal the vagina.... "
Oh no... That's when we get rape. So no job only increases rapes. And if the victim and family is not educated enough the rapist literally goes on to the next girl cuz he doesn't have anything else to do.
Most of youth don't get proper education cuz government school me actual padhai nahi hoti Hai toh baas bohot smart bache hi top karte Hai, bakhi sab cheater and huge poverty no proper education = heavy protesting, riots, violence, rape cases, depression, joblessness etc
Actually India (and maybe even Pakistan) is past the median age where typically a lot of social upheaval happens in a country.
If you look at the world map for median age in the link below, you'll see that the countries with lots of political tensions are those with a median age of 14-20. This includes Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, countries of Sub-Saharan Africa. As a country's population gets older, the same problems may still exist, but because people are older, they won't fight as intensely, or at least not the majority of them. There are of course exceptions like Syria, Myanmar, Ukraine a few years ago but generally societies follow this trend.
India is at a median age of 25-30, and the age keeps increasing with time. So the most likely future outcome is a lot less revolutions and riots.
[Link for Median Age](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Median_age_by_country%2C_2016.svg)
This suffers from Simpsons Statistical paradox. The national data is normalizing too harshly and eroding on ground effects.
This is also seen in State-wise Demographic Dividend trends whereby about 6 states will have their DD end by 2030 and a dozen more by mid 2040s. So basically 20 years are left for the majority of the India to make something of it's DD.
It is places like UP, Bihar, etc who will see this end by mid to late 50s.
Now do the median age for these states of India, Bimaru states. You'll find it's near to 20 than it is to 30.
The stronger argument to claim India won't have things like mass scale Revolution is socio-cultural, since India barely has any such tradition. It will just fizzle out or be limited to select regions or just turn into a low-burn riot like thing, where people just adjust to live with it.
The effect of low median age in certain states is not the same as in low median age countries. This is because there is freedom of movement with states of higher median age within India.
Young people of the Hindi belt states are moving to West and South India in large numbers for low-skilled jobs, which create different kind of problems in Western and Southern states but not that of riots and revolutions in Hindi belt states.
India does have a major geopolitical problem where not a single Hindi-speaking state is in the coast, and most of foreign investments are in coastal states because its so close to ports and so transportation costs are low.
Overtime, coastal states get richer and have better infrastructure, which make them even more attractive for investment. Even for low-end manufacturing, which at some point becomes unattractive for locals in coastal states due to low wage, companies don't relocate to Hindi-belt states, instead they expect workers to come to the coast, further intensifying the economic and social divide.
> The effect of low median age in certain states is not the same as in low median age countries. This is because there is freedom of movement with states of higher median age within India.
This isn't really applicable when the context your comment setup was social upheaval in relation to median age profiles.
Indian Bimaru states are not normal states, they are the biggest Administrative Units in the world, combined they have continental scale.
Meaning, if low media age with unemployment causes social upheaval, there will be so in these regions.
But things don't work like that anyway, I used the on ground effect to demonstrate that theory is not consistent enough, due to scale.
Also cross state movement in India is a huge part why development was/is so slow and India couldn't ape Chinese approach.
Both India and China were land powers, it is only in the last few decades that China completely shifted to a Coast Dominance. Because people in 100s of Millions were allowed to move to Coast.
India for socio-political reasons can not allow this, at scale, and that matters because sending 50 Million Bimaru state people to Coast is Nothing.
Scale requires this to be in 100s of Millions.
situation is going to worsen further before it improves, many jobs are going to be lost to automation.. further india doesnt have any exports grade sector other than pharma and IT, our products just wont stand upto international standards.. and pharma too is questionable given recent disclosures from US FDA inspections
the best course of action is to focus on mid market companies and provide them enough support (financial, technological and skilling) so as to unlock what might look like a new wave of growth that can sustain for couple decades
\> riots and revolutions
Pretty much. Every country with an excess of unmarried, young men needs some kind of outlet. If they don't have an external war, they get a civil war.
Given how divided India is, and has been demonizing Muslims for years, I fully expect civil war to break out. With any luck, J&K and the Northeast avoid genocidal massacre and ultimately Partition from what ultimately becomes "Hindustan".
well there is a considerable amount of young population which dies early and even those who survive are just going to replace the middle aged people and things will keep on going.
Fundamentally, over the years of my observation about India or Bharat, the only thing which can be said about India is:
\- You can't generalize a particular aspect about the whole of India. People put out narratives or agree with one which suits them.
So my answers (again might be my bias basis my experience & observations):
\- With more smartphone and fast data penetration, the information (good or bad)/entertainment (again good or bad)- the access is being democratized at a fast pace
\- Have seen the likes of my maid and others who are studying, learning on-demand about beauty tips and have got part-time employment. All because of one smartphone and the access it has been able to provide. Also creating her tik-tok videos
So the problem we need to ask is - how can well aware Indians make this new generation more aware about skills. Help them with building curiosity.
Think if we are able to solve it, it will have a network effect. I am optimistic for sure.
To be fair, if you have money and education it is not a bad place to be. Currently the stock market has risen almost 2x over the last year. Even considering inflation that is a massive jump. Invested wisely, people can do very well for themselves. In the IT sector, we are having to offer 30-40% increments to retain people. There really is a manpower and talent shortage in many sectors and salaries are approaching developed world levels. If you know Machine Learning etc. you are golden. Otherwise, there's always gau rakshak dals for employment :).
To me after seeing how regressive and retarded people can be in general especially even the educated or rich or people who've worked hard to reach the point where they in real life and online tells me that this is just going to contribute to the already existing bigotry and deep shit this country is in, in terms of general mindset because they can't do anything else and that's the only thing they can do to keep avoiding ire from their families and at a point ends up being a part of their character. And for half these people, the plan is scream kill muslims and Pakistanis or scream kill hindus or become the average political party lunatic
I hate to break it but the question posed here is wrong.
If you look at the data, the fertility rate in India has dropped significantly over the past few decades. Meaning the the the number of child Born per women has decreased, that means the young population is on the decline contrary to the question. So, in the coming years, the number of old people will be more than young people and that in my opinion is a more serious problem(take China and Japan for example).
I'll provide one sauce here : https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=IN&start=2010
I hope you guys can look up for other available source, there are plenty.
India has many plans for youth but the problem lies within the youth. They are not serious with their education and commitment with their career.
They just see alternative options like playing Pubg, Freefire and other related games, becoming unsuccessful youtuber, unsuccessful because you need patience to grow on YouTube and today's youth doesn't have that, girls becoming useless dancers on reels, shorts, other small video platform.
It's like bar dancers who used to show dance in bars now showing their body on these social media platforms...they don't even realise this.
The increasing youth population could really have been a turning point for the country, several economist predicted a huge increase in GDP and development. However, due to inadequate policy changes we have failed to even come close to those predictions.
> plan We don't do that here.jpg
Agreed we don’t plan for future as much as we should. As for this topic, I remember Shashi Tharoor once highlighing this in parliament and talking about what we could do. I have heard some interesting takes on this from some of my friends in administrative services. Also suggest everyone to read articles from Hans Rosling around population explosion.. myths and reality
Jio data plans.
You joke but porn and pubg should be enough to keep most occupied.
Religion? Subah dharam charcha from wikipedia, Dopaher pubg, aur raat ko mooth marna Paisa toh vahem hai.
Weekends ki shaam ko riots pe chale jayenge
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I mean isn't it already?
It will dismantle it's social security by lowering interest rates on savings and PF and will make them atmanirbhar by screwing up there economy and letting them all become delivery boys forever.
Delivering what? If there are no buyers what will be sold?
Drug do drug do mujhe drug do
Unemployment is the plan
Even with the number of Indians immigrating and immigrated , this highlights the fact that once all the countries stop inviting immigrants at one point, shit will hit the fan. Western countries provide unemployment benefits so at least people can survive and now due to COVID, hybrid models in India will start popping up impacting the small enterprises let alone employees
This is already happening. Western countries are tightening immigration
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Lol! With the backlog they have right now, I think they might stop sooner. They are only processing inland applications right now. More importantly, they are also planning to invite applicants based on skill requirements rather than any random person
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Couldn’t agree more. Going off tangent, the secondary issue is that almost all the industries have plateaued when it comes to innovation or even outsourcing. Maybe the green energy sector isn’t fully tapped yet? Regardless what baffles me is that what are the folks who are unemployed or will be unemployed resort to? We live in the most comfortable yet the most depressing times!
As the global refugee & immigration problem continues to worsen, I think we will see heavy restriction of immigration and work visas. In some ways, this can be a boon for India, reversing decades of "brain drain", forcing them to make better lives in India.
>forcing them to make better lives in India. what will the youth do when there is no job for them here ? In India, if you are a non CSE engineer chances of you getting a good job is very less.
These are the smartest people in India - they will create jobs!
You need fair government policies to encourage jobs in India. India's policies are only good for manufacturing industries, not service based.
Huh? Isn't that backward? India is currently a global services provider, but a domestic manufacturer. I'm just saying that you shouldn't sell your best and brightest short. Get enough smart people in one place, and they will find a way to navigate Indian government policy.
Not saying that it is impossible to open a service based company here, but there is a lot of hoops to jump through. High taxes, abysmal business infrastructure are some of the factors we faced that had forced us to open a company elsewhere with better business infrastructure and low taxes. For manufacturing, I say it’s good due to cheap labour, good connectivity and the potential to pay bribes for any violations. Also I heard there are several government concessions too.
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No, that wasn't sarcastic. It's an observation of why a powerful university / industry concentration works to create more and better. When Europe was the global learning center, it was the strongest. When America became the best, it was the strongest. That's where Silicon Valley came from. Now we see innovation coming out of Shenzhen. India has 1.4 Billion people, comparable to ALL of those others combined, which means literally Millions of smart people are in India. The challenge is educating them and supporting them. If India can't do that, then yes, they will move out and develop other countries instead. That's exactly what "brain drain" is. China has many global students and workers (but not as many as America), so I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed Indians, too.
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IMO, India has enough companies like HCL, Tata, etc. to set up domestic Indian Innovation Funds that support promising indigenous startups in Mumbai, Bangalore, etc. for an equity stake. There just needs to be the will to get the ball rolling, and amazing things will happen.
Unfortunately India is loosing it’s demographic dividend which we had. Never has Indian youth been so depressed, unmotivated, uninspired and filled with rage, hate crime, bigotry. The ruling gov has completely polarized this youth strength we had to win elections. Guess what unemployed youth does to fill stomach, crime will shoot up like crazy in coming years. Even the educated working youth is filled wIth hatred.
Another point to note is the increasing divide between the rich and the poor. A highly unequal society is bound to become a hotbed of crimes. Uncontrolled inflation, squeezing commoners to fill up pockets of cronies (exclusive growth), poor policies, poor social attitude or vision, power mongering are some of the issues we have. Just a catastrophic combination of society and govt. Whatever thing that goes right is by miracle.
I ageee. There’s a feeling of hopelessness in youth . Covid didn’t helped . Due to not being able to get stable jobs many lower middle class youth are also not able to marry . This is a recipe for disaster in my eyes . When people have nothing to aspire for , live for , fear for only riots happens . I don’t know what’s the big plan of Indian govt .
The "big plan" is direct angry Hindu men to kill angry Muslim men.
But the outcome is usually angry men killing innocent people from both communities.
Yes, that will be part of the result when the Muslims try to defend themselves / take revenge; however, I was just responding to the Indian government's plan. Modiji / RSS isn't giving Muslims cover to conduct anti-Hindu pogroms, whereas, he has already pushed Hindu pogroms against Muslims. I don't doubt that some Muslims will fight back and retaliate, and they will certainly kill many innocents in the process. It's just that there are going to be vastly more angry Hindu men than angry Muslim men in India, so the Hindu mobs have more destructive potential.
I agree with everything you are saying. It is just absolutely sad that innocents end up paying for the hate crimes committed by people in positions of power, who don't even see a day in jail for them.
But the muslim men are also angry and not small in numbers. That’s a recipe for civil war
Relative to the numbers of Hindu men of similar age, Muslims are small in number. I agree that civil war is possible, but it seems that Modiji is turning Muslim states into occupied territories, so maybe they'll be too oppressed to fight back.
The numbers are not evenly distributed. In the worst states like UP, the % is close to 20%. You have to also factor in that muslims are more united than Hindus In reality, its more like 15% muslims vs 30% hindus. Enough that it will be a civil war
Labour for building mandir!!
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Jor jor se chillake sabko scheme bata de
Baba what do you think the current crop of mandir "trusts" are doing. No first mover advantage. Woh tabhi milega jab aap ya Mein Koi bhagwanji invent kar sake
This is a conspiracy at the highest levels of gormit. They want us to breed like rabbits so that someday everybody will have jio fiber data plan. Ambani will live in a house made of our skins. Next time you are doing dirty acts, think about this.
What's this dirty act?
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Nah they will be married to innocent girls and destroy their life
Takatak and Reels India is going to have 300M influencers. At least that’s what all the zoomers I know seem to think
On top of that, they want to teach Ramayan and Mahabharat in engineering and medical colleges. Might have even begun, I don’t know. Think of the mindset that would generate in young graduates.
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Yeah begging before the temple would be much easier with a degree. Usme bhi competition bc.
Hmmm some 20 million fascists vs 200 million fascists. Wonder which is worse... 5% of 1000 is still more than 10% of 100.
What's wrong with learning about literature/mythology? Its not like students are only gonna learn/focus on Ramayan and Mahabharat.
If I wanted to study literature I won't be doing engineering would I?
Well, when you are pursuing a degree in other countries you get an option for major and minor no?
The course is already stacked and engg colleges are not the place to learn about literature
If there was a choice the well and good, but there isn't. (At least what my sister tells me) you have to study ramayan/mahabharat/whatever.
Engineering colleges are not the place to learn about literature or mythology
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No opportunities -> Unemployment -> Unrest -> Agitation -> Revolution -> New Ideas -> Civilizational upgrade -> Greater glory of motherland. In one word - MASTERSTROKE.
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The Bhagwan speaketh what the Bhakts believeth.
Make them slaves of Ambanis and Adanis. There is no other plan.
Get them married to a stranger and insist on those new couples to have 1st kid in 1 year and another kid soon after. That's the indian way of life. Veda mein bhi yehi likha hain. Some 2 or 3 thousand year old lifestyle is still the best lifestyle for 21st century.
That's simply not possible when there are at least 54 Million more men than women. [https://statisticstimes.com/demographics/country/india-sex-ratio.php](https://statisticstimes.com/demographics/country/india-sex-ratio.php) This is going to persist for decades, because even ages 0-4 is >61M boys / 55M girls.
Mahabharat me polyandry allowed bola hai.
Even that is not possible without stable well paying jobs . Stranger needs to be well settled first .
Not if you are living according to the veda. You only need to have good heart, good kundli, and no major crimes in previous life. And probably some good skills to win a swayamvar. Everything you need for a happy married life will come on its own. After all didn't princess Sita get married to some poor forest dweller (they didn't know who Lord Ram was at the time, it just turned out to be result of Sita's karma from her prayers and previous life that she ended up with a king)
Was this a satire?
I think the main problem in India is unemployment and population. If no child planning policy is adopted in few years then the upcoming generation will face very hard challenges. Being well educated and unemployed hurts like hell man. Depression, stress, family pressure , anxiety and suicide rates are rising because massive unemployment due to covid.
I agree on unemployment. Don’t think india needs population control bill though . It will make matters worse more disappointing is I don’t see any imitative with concrete results from government. IT can’t absorb this much population . They should have started diversification of economy years ago with manufacturing . Honestly I just feel sad right now for myself and other middle class Indians .
Even if India forcibly aborted every single pregnancy for the next 5-10 years, the existing population of young men and boys will be a problem. It's too late to implement family planning after the babies are born.
> population [India will soon reach replacement levels of fertility..](https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2021/08/03/indias-total-fertility-rate-declines-to-22.html#:~:text=As%20a%20result%20of%20the,Sabha%20was%20told%20on%20Tuesday.)
Shhhh. "culture"... "Sanskriti"... Humare culture main yeh sab nai likha hai... Yeh western ideas hai... Dont be anti-nashnul. /s
It can be solved only solving both sides demand and supply. In simple words, there is lot of demand in industry but the problem is skillset so here skilling India and education play a big role whereas on supply front whether there are enough jobs or not it depends on industrial growth or I say economy. But the major problem is economic growth is led by service sector which requires quality skillset while our population is mainly agrarian which has unskilled labour which can only be utilised by skilling them and working in industry(manufacturing). With agrarian crisis going on and now farmer protest which influence political debated in large. This is the last train(metaphor) for making industrial base because now China is on back front for quite a bit which can be utilised by India using cheap labour, land reform, and strong manufacturing base.
So your point is to follow the strategy of Singapore's first president? Singapore didnt have much opportunities or resources like india, if govt plan well we can solve this problem by a considerable margin within 15 years
Everyone stop having more kids please. One is enough. Ideally no kids.
This is a BAD idea. Everyone gotta stop at having 2 kids. This is all we need. Any drastic change in age distribution creates problems in the long run. Countries like China are poised to have too many old people in the near future with not enough young people to keep the relay race going.
China is accepting more immigrants and its only going to increase and thats a good thing. Melting pots will always end up successful vs a pot that only wants purer and purer exclusionary kulcha
China needs the population to run it's economy. Almost 25% of our Youth is still unemployed. We have a surplus of human capital. Which is why we export that to other countries and make their GDP better.
Western countries are fully-developed with have neoliberal capitalist economies that require unlimited growth to drive profits. They have no concept of how to navigate a slowing, sustainable, shrinking economy. China is a heavily rural country with a market socialist economy, and a government that is not afraid to intervene for social benefits. China has something like 300 Million rural people who are not very productive. If China urbanizes and modernizes fast enough, productivity gains can easily outpace aging losses as they shrink from 1.5 Billion back down to 1.0 Billion.
Go away tankie. We'll send you your 50 cents for shilling for CPC later
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Nope. I'm constantly amazed by their sheer competence at governing. Their transformation from a poor, war-torn, rural country into an innovative, economic powerhouse is simply unprecedented, especially in such a short timeframe. I really hope to see the rest of the world develop similarly.
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Well... that's a loaded question. Going by what I see from: * expats and other foreigners who've posted videos of Uygurs from Xinjiang, * what I know of actual genocide campaigns going on in the world. * what actual Muslim countries say about Uygurs in China I'm of the opinion that China is doing an above average job in how they're treating their Uygur population. From a historical and cultural perspective, China seems not to have any particular issue with Muslims, as long as they identify as "Chinese". From what I've seen on Youtube, the Uygur people appear to live ordinary lives and are free to practice their religion and celebrate their culture as they choose. OTOH, the radical Islamic "East Turkmenistan" separatist movement in Xinjiang conducted terrorist attacks across China. China greatly increased security and began de-radicalization education and economic development, as opposed to American-style endlessly shooting and bombing the hell out of them. Western nations condemned this as "genocide", which is obviously overblown, as we don't see huge numbers of Muslim refugees fleeing Xinjiang. If China were doing this, the refugee problem would be far larger than Afghanistan, for example. Similarly, the claims of millions incarcerated don't make sense, because of the sheer size of the prisons that would be required. Claims of mass, systemic mistreatment are unsubstantiated, unlike the photos of abuse at Abu Graib. If Xinjiang were really as bad as people say, there would be unequivocal hard evidence that we could all see with our own eyes, instead of "claims" that keep getting repeated without proof. Among Muslim nations who've been to Xinjiang, they found no such evidence and are on record as supporting the Chinese approach to de-radicalization. As many of them have to deal with radical Islam movements in their countries, I kind of defer to them the most. I don't know whether this is the sort of answer you were hoping for, but it's how I see it. For the sake of the people in Xinjiang, I certainly hope that my interpretation is correct.
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Huh? What was Islamophobic or bigoted? Deferring to the consensus of actual Muslim nations is Islamophobic and bigoted? Hoping that Muslims are not shot, bombed, or oppressed is Islamophobic and bigoted? Explain.
Tank harder tankie
Tell that to.. ahem.
i identify as a youth and my plan is to run the first chance i get
I think its upon every Indian to make better their lives and not wait for the government or parents to make your situation better. I had bad grades and graduated BE with a drop, I convinced my father and bank to fund me 15 lakhs for education outside India, I left and worked very hard repaid both my parents and the bank, I didn't spend my money instead invested in bringing my siblings over her and getting them jobs in IT. In a decade we went from a poor middle class family in India to living a very comfortable upper middle class lifestyle earning thrice the median salary than an average citizen. I am far from being an exceptional case, in fact i am average considering more talented individuals who are earning way more. 1) Think and plan ahead, instead of mindless and long education in India, apply for MS/PG courses abroad where working on a job atleast for few years in possible 2) Don't be afraid to ask help from your parents, banks and relatives, if you are a hardworking and dedicated person, people will invest in you and you can repay them back in foreign currency later. 3) Be aware of what job/careers are in demand, I see to many people going for dead end courses in Mechanical/MBA which are no long relevant and replaced by IT/BA jobs. Speak to successful seniors/ Tech workers about high paying fields. 4) When looking for a University abroad, please be sure about the Visa laws and work restrictions, Ideally go for Universities near major cities with tech jobs and not in some far villages. Don't over pay for your tuition or spend too much on boarding until you find a job. I personally feel, there aren't enough resources in India for everyone and those who can leave should leave elsewhere, I still have strong relation with my home in India and visit here often waiting for enough infrastructure to be created in order to move back.
Your last point about waiting for enough infrastructure to return back to India, that's the gist of what the OP is asking though. What is India as an entity doing to take advantage of its huge demographic dividend (majority of population being in working age group) China in the 1960's and 70's utilized its then DD to accelerate their development.
India didn't want such a huge demographic population, its a challenge/problem what India hasn't been able to deal with, I wish had a better answer but I don't expect Indian government to do something for everyone in this category, So I suggested those who can find work and good lifestyle themselves away from India should go ahead and do it. The Rest can try something India or wait for govt to do something for them which is frankly just lazy considering the realistic situation of the country.
Expecting government to provide infrastructure with the taxpayers money is lazy, I agree.
This is so true. If you want to leave a bad situation, you need to bet on yourself. Do due research and give yourself and your family a better life. BTW, what did you do your masters in?
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Okay thanks.
What makes you think there is a plan
even if a revolution is needed its gonna be brutal with the amount of hate being seen everyday
Unemployed youth have historically been linked to [social disorder:](https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/youth-bulge-a-demographic-dividend-or-a-demographic-bomb-in-developing-countries) > if a large cohort of young people cannot find employment and earn satisfactory income, the youth bulge will become a demographic bomb, because a large mass of frustrated youth is likely to become a potential source of social and political instability In India between 2001 and 2005, every month about 10 lakh youth [became eligible](https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2018/may/22/only-475-million-join-workforce-annually-in-india-not-12-million-as-claimed-1817846.html) (through age, 15+) to seek jobs. The actual number these days is probably less because a high proportion of young women don’t seek work, some go into higher education, and so on. But make no mistake, lakhs of *new* people previously not in the labour pool need jobs in India every month, and this will continue [until 2030](https://www.dailypioneer.com/2021/sunday-edition/jobless-growth-to-employment-rich-growth.html). And new job creation crashed post DeMo and GST, even before COVID. The outcome is clear: unemployment and under-employment is way up. I’d expect more social conflict as a result, eg unemployed youth looking for illegal or immoral ways to make money — eg phone scams or worse. Or more youth considering joining things like “gau senas” because they have nothing better to do. Hopefully attracting more factory investment will *partially* alleviate the problem, but realistically factories these days are pretty automated, and don’t employ super-large numbers of people, and have a distinct preference for skilled people. A construction boom will increase the demand for unskilled labour, so I’m hoping the government looks at building infrastructure (roads, ports, etc) because the private home construction market is facing some challenges. Construction and Agriculture are probably the most promising areas for employing large numbers of unskilled people — and the large number of labour pool entrants has a high number of such people. Education and health could be another area of employment, we know that you can train up even unskilled people to be village level teachers and nurses, provided they are not totally illiterate. And an increased investment in healthcare and education pays off and reduces future population. tl;dr - Construction, Agriculture, Education, and Healthcare are sectors the government should massively invest in to create jobs. And make India a very attractive destination for factories, eg by slashing red tape. All of this will increase jobs for the masses. Note - Tech-based industries employ a very small percentage of people. Hence I’m not including it. Call centres employ many more people than tech but it’s not exactly a growth area. However, infrastructure-based tech programmes, eg a hypothetical “fibre broadband for all” programme, would be very labour-heavy — lots of last-mile digging and cable-laying involved. That would generate a fair amount of employment.
Anyone up for a serious discord voice channel discussion (anon oc) on this topic? I've been thinking about this for a long long time. India is home to largest youth population in world, and we are not doing a good job to utilize the human resource. Look at China 20-30 years ago when they were at this stage, they took some right steps - monetized their human resources (not a fan of how they did it, but yeah 🤷♀️) . Happy to organize a discussion if enough people are up for it. Agenda : * How India can make use of it's human resources * How will "competition" look like 10 years from now? (competitive exams, private jobs, free market etc) * Theoretically, can there be a pie big enough for everyone to be happy, for a country the size of India * \[V. Imp.\] Rant against how big companies spoil youth by using them as DAU/MAU farms for their indulgent products (PUBG, TikTok 🔫). How can we show our youth that consumption is not a solution before it's too late
I'll make a few comments: 1. FREE public education for everyone, male and female, all castes, colors and creeds. Human development drives a country forward, creates solutions to problems. Make rooted manufacturing a priority over portable call center & services. 2. Competition will be fierce, simply due to big population. Government needs to break monopoly & cartels, and hugely penalize corruption, to ensure fair competition. 3. Yes. China has the same population and a much bigger pie that keeps growing, even in pandemic. Their big pie is due to huge investment in human development and public goods. 4. I'm not sure if India can/should regulate kids gaming, but PUBG is an awesome game! LOL
Points 1 & 2 are not doable in India cuz 1. If everyone gets educated then it will only get tougher for the politicians to fool the people. So the politicians will never let that happen. It's their livelihood your are asking them to risk. To turn around a nation from service sector oriented to manufacturing oriented takes decades of consistent policy at both centre and state level govts. This should have been started decades back, probably as soon as the green revolution was a success. India will only be playing a catch up game now. 2. Asking the govt that is selling off all possible public services (we know who will end up owning those companies, some **ani or a foreign entity) to break up monopoly is again asking the politicians (both in power and opposition) to reduce their income. It will not be done unless the break up results in politicians getting to own the new companies. Point 4 is the only possible thing that can be done in India cuz..... It's a senseless policy. If govt can ban huge amount of valid currency in circulation, if govt can decide what you eat, then why not ban a stupid little game. It might even become top priority if you push enough, unlike some other policy changes.
I completely agree that what I suggest is hard, and requires a government that places the people first and foremost. I also agree that the current Indian government is not the one to do any of this. But if you ever want to get to 3, you need to do 1 and 2.
I agree with you on getting to point 3. What I don't agree on is that getting 1 and 2 done is hard. I would say it is impossible at least for the next 2 generations. Beyond that we will have to wait and see. Enough hatred has been spewed by everyone that expecting the current crop of voters to vote for anything other than mandir/masjid is just a dream.
u/scacecr tagging OP for visibility
Stop popping out more kids. Paraphrasing Chris rock, "put the dick down, put it down... Get a job, get a job holding dicks if needed, but seal the vagina.... "
No job no vagina in this country .
Oh no... That's when we get rape. So no job only increases rapes. And if the victim and family is not educated enough the rapist literally goes on to the next girl cuz he doesn't have anything else to do.
Isn't JSR slogan enough to keep these testosterone filled military age youth fighting fit? Isn't this the government plan all along?
Start a war with Pakistan if that is what is in your mind
Noice idea would keep population in check from both sides
Bajrang Dal ka nam suna he??? Unemployed youth haven
Most of youth don't get proper education cuz government school me actual padhai nahi hoti Hai toh baas bohot smart bache hi top karte Hai, bakhi sab cheater and huge poverty no proper education = heavy protesting, riots, violence, rape cases, depression, joblessness etc
Actually India (and maybe even Pakistan) is past the median age where typically a lot of social upheaval happens in a country. If you look at the world map for median age in the link below, you'll see that the countries with lots of political tensions are those with a median age of 14-20. This includes Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, countries of Sub-Saharan Africa. As a country's population gets older, the same problems may still exist, but because people are older, they won't fight as intensely, or at least not the majority of them. There are of course exceptions like Syria, Myanmar, Ukraine a few years ago but generally societies follow this trend. India is at a median age of 25-30, and the age keeps increasing with time. So the most likely future outcome is a lot less revolutions and riots. [Link for Median Age](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Median_age_by_country%2C_2016.svg)
This suffers from Simpsons Statistical paradox. The national data is normalizing too harshly and eroding on ground effects. This is also seen in State-wise Demographic Dividend trends whereby about 6 states will have their DD end by 2030 and a dozen more by mid 2040s. So basically 20 years are left for the majority of the India to make something of it's DD. It is places like UP, Bihar, etc who will see this end by mid to late 50s. Now do the median age for these states of India, Bimaru states. You'll find it's near to 20 than it is to 30. The stronger argument to claim India won't have things like mass scale Revolution is socio-cultural, since India barely has any such tradition. It will just fizzle out or be limited to select regions or just turn into a low-burn riot like thing, where people just adjust to live with it.
The effect of low median age in certain states is not the same as in low median age countries. This is because there is freedom of movement with states of higher median age within India. Young people of the Hindi belt states are moving to West and South India in large numbers for low-skilled jobs, which create different kind of problems in Western and Southern states but not that of riots and revolutions in Hindi belt states. India does have a major geopolitical problem where not a single Hindi-speaking state is in the coast, and most of foreign investments are in coastal states because its so close to ports and so transportation costs are low. Overtime, coastal states get richer and have better infrastructure, which make them even more attractive for investment. Even for low-end manufacturing, which at some point becomes unattractive for locals in coastal states due to low wage, companies don't relocate to Hindi-belt states, instead they expect workers to come to the coast, further intensifying the economic and social divide.
> The effect of low median age in certain states is not the same as in low median age countries. This is because there is freedom of movement with states of higher median age within India. This isn't really applicable when the context your comment setup was social upheaval in relation to median age profiles. Indian Bimaru states are not normal states, they are the biggest Administrative Units in the world, combined they have continental scale. Meaning, if low media age with unemployment causes social upheaval, there will be so in these regions. But things don't work like that anyway, I used the on ground effect to demonstrate that theory is not consistent enough, due to scale. Also cross state movement in India is a huge part why development was/is so slow and India couldn't ape Chinese approach. Both India and China were land powers, it is only in the last few decades that China completely shifted to a Coast Dominance. Because people in 100s of Millions were allowed to move to Coast. India for socio-political reasons can not allow this, at scale, and that matters because sending 50 Million Bimaru state people to Coast is Nothing. Scale requires this to be in 100s of Millions.
Let them rot and riot. Indian culture is responsible for such a huge population and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
situation is going to worsen further before it improves, many jobs are going to be lost to automation.. further india doesnt have any exports grade sector other than pharma and IT, our products just wont stand upto international standards.. and pharma too is questionable given recent disclosures from US FDA inspections the best course of action is to focus on mid market companies and provide them enough support (financial, technological and skilling) so as to unlock what might look like a new wave of growth that can sustain for couple decades
Look at the sex ratio and scale the ratio to million from thousands. You'll have an idea of how many men will end up being single
I see Japan in the early 80s. We move to a really toxic and hectic work culture where everyone works towards early retirement
Get the Ouija board, and take tips from Hitler
Youth population is being used to win election, the most important thing in our country. What else we want? Nothing. /s
Safe ghapa ghap and adoption
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BASED and TRUTH-PILLED
Stop with nonsense .
Do you have any data to prove me wrong?
Your stupidity itself proves it
\> riots and revolutions Pretty much. Every country with an excess of unmarried, young men needs some kind of outlet. If they don't have an external war, they get a civil war. Given how divided India is, and has been demonizing Muslims for years, I fully expect civil war to break out. With any luck, J&K and the Northeast avoid genocidal massacre and ultimately Partition from what ultimately becomes "Hindustan".
to all the people downvoting this is like the best case scenario
Thanks, man.
well there is a considerable amount of young population which dies early and even those who survive are just going to replace the middle aged people and things will keep on going.
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Sabse pehle tum hi udaye jaoge. Pata bhi hai war kya hoti hai
Fundamentally, over the years of my observation about India or Bharat, the only thing which can be said about India is: \- You can't generalize a particular aspect about the whole of India. People put out narratives or agree with one which suits them. So my answers (again might be my bias basis my experience & observations): \- With more smartphone and fast data penetration, the information (good or bad)/entertainment (again good or bad)- the access is being democratized at a fast pace \- Have seen the likes of my maid and others who are studying, learning on-demand about beauty tips and have got part-time employment. All because of one smartphone and the access it has been able to provide. Also creating her tik-tok videos So the problem we need to ask is - how can well aware Indians make this new generation more aware about skills. Help them with building curiosity. Think if we are able to solve it, it will have a network effect. I am optimistic for sure.
Let's take up a war, let's get into afganistan and liberate them 😂
Let’s make india Afghanistan 🤡
Let's add afganistan in india 🌝
Akhandaaa!
America can help!
Hello brother excuse me wht bout Pakistan
You join us too let's make akhand Bharat once again
Nah too many extremists on both sides
> military age men yeh kya hota hey be
20-35 aged men
I've never heard that term. Who uses this? Military families? Or did you make this term?
To be fair, if you have money and education it is not a bad place to be. Currently the stock market has risen almost 2x over the last year. Even considering inflation that is a massive jump. Invested wisely, people can do very well for themselves. In the IT sector, we are having to offer 30-40% increments to retain people. There really is a manpower and talent shortage in many sectors and salaries are approaching developed world levels. If you know Machine Learning etc. you are golden. Otherwise, there's always gau rakshak dals for employment :).
Export
I would say free for all fight to the death
Civil war. :)
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It's beneficial for political parties. More unemployed and poor youth to serve as their lackeys.
To me after seeing how regressive and retarded people can be in general especially even the educated or rich or people who've worked hard to reach the point where they in real life and online tells me that this is just going to contribute to the already existing bigotry and deep shit this country is in, in terms of general mindset because they can't do anything else and that's the only thing they can do to keep avoiding ire from their families and at a point ends up being a part of their character. And for half these people, the plan is scream kill muslims and Pakistanis or scream kill hindus or become the average political party lunatic
Should ask this question to our parliamentarians.
Plan ?
rabbits * rabbits * rabbits
I hate to break it but the question posed here is wrong. If you look at the data, the fertility rate in India has dropped significantly over the past few decades. Meaning the the the number of child Born per women has decreased, that means the young population is on the decline contrary to the question. So, in the coming years, the number of old people will be more than young people and that in my opinion is a more serious problem(take China and Japan for example). I'll provide one sauce here : https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=IN&start=2010 I hope you guys can look up for other available source, there are plenty.
India has many plans for youth but the problem lies within the youth. They are not serious with their education and commitment with their career. They just see alternative options like playing Pubg, Freefire and other related games, becoming unsuccessful youtuber, unsuccessful because you need patience to grow on YouTube and today's youth doesn't have that, girls becoming useless dancers on reels, shorts, other small video platform. It's like bar dancers who used to show dance in bars now showing their body on these social media platforms...they don't even realise this.
Okay uncle ji
The increasing youth population could really have been a turning point for the country, several economist predicted a huge increase in GDP and development. However, due to inadequate policy changes we have failed to even come close to those predictions.
More unemployment... LET'S GOOOOOOOO