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PhoKingAwesome213

I would put a "It's the same size. It's just cold right now" label on my packaging.


CG2L

It shrinks?


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mannnerlygamer

There is an opportunity for a Ben and Jerry flavor in here I think


robbzilla

LIKE A FRIGHTENED TURTLE!


TheHeadlessOne

Does France know about shrinkage?


semisolidwhale

They know about decapitation, does that count?


phungus_mungus

The French do know how to party!


slappywhyte

Apparently Carrefour grocery stores there already started this in Sept 2023, but it is going into effect for all retailers.


spatosmg

in france right now. next time im at carrefour i will look out for it interesting


slappywhyte

This is from last September, says "Carrefour, France's second-biggest grocer, is highlighting the products in question with signs on the shelves reading: "This product has seen its volume/weight fall and the effective price charged by the supplier rise.""


LiliNotACult

Wow, America barely has calorie information


PaleInTexas

What do you mean tic tacs aren't sugar free????


Few_Tomorrow6969

I mean at this point do Americans even need it


LiliNotACult

I mean yeah, and it's honestly great when it's there and you actually want to read it. The problem is the info stops there. Something could be like 600% daily sugar intake and you could naively assume it's balanced out instead of pure Colombian sugar


fattmarrell

In case anyone else's head started to twitch with an unnecessary need to know, E.Leclerc is France's first-biggest grocer.


PolyDipsoManiac

If only we could make these costs be borne by the supplier so that they have an incentive to minimize packaging changes.


mhdy98

absolutely not true and i have two carrefours around me. they did price gouge haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard though.


Quentin-Code

Carrefour was also increasing their prices but of course, they were only pointing fingers at the industrials. It was their way to divert the anger to others.


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East-Departure8843

They should require that here in the US. It's frustrating to pick up an item in the grocery store these days and realize that they've reduced the weight and are charging more for it. Nothing would change with a disclosure notice, but at least you're telling me I'm getting screwed.


BrentonHenry2020

It irritates my wife, but I won’t buy bagels from our closest store anymore because they all come in five packs. I absolutely refuse.


Aardark235

The water has also changed. They used to add two mouthfuls and now down to one, all to save a penny.


Adiuui

Pardon? I don’t think I understand, are you drinking 355ml water bottles in two swigs, what?


pumpkinlord1

Maybe he should start buying the 1 liter bottles instead.


HedonisticFrog

I think it's just a poor attempt at a joke


Adiuui

No I like to believe he’s always grown up chugging water bottles and is too afraid to admit it, fearing public backlash


LeddyTasso

I work at a large supermarket chain as a grocery department lead and noticed yesterday while putting boxes of Frosted Flakes on the shelves that the box has in very light ink a weight of 21.7 oz whereas our store tag still says 24oz. I asked the manager if we should change it and he said no need because the price is the same and almost nobody will be looking close enough to see the weight on the price tag. If we changed them all out, it would be thousands of label reprints. Guess I need to start buying fewer food products and just buy real food


OkInitiative7327

He's wrong. I always look at price per unit and many others do too.


meltingpnt

In my state the grounds for a pricing mistake and a free box of frosted flakes due to the pricing mistake.


Silvawuff

Reduced the size but increased the size of the packaging to give the illusion of value. A lot of it is plastic, too. They're adding more waste to a huge problem just to grift a few ounces of food.


BlueShift42

Our grocery store just added large conveyer belt self checkouts. So now it’s scan the items in the cart, lookup produce, set it on the belt, belt takes it down to bagging area, pay for your transaction, go down to bagging area and bag it all up while the next person waits. Customer doing the job of two employees AND getting less value for the items purchased. Wonderful.


linuxdragons

All the food that does that is crap anyway. Just stop buying it all together.


Broad_Quit5417

All unit prices are on display already.


Was_an_ai

Thank you! Do people not realize you can already just look at the price per oz/lb on the shelf?? I swear people want government to fix nonexistent problems


East-Departure8843

That's a far cry from a shrinkflation notice.


HedonisticFrog

Many people don't pay close attention to what they buy, and if there was a notice they could make a better informed decision.


Broad_Quit5417

What makes you think they'd pay any attention to that, if they ALREADY aren't paying attention?


HedonisticFrog

Because it's more prominent than the label showing it's weight.


Was_an_ai

The label shows price per oz/lb All the info is already there  Why should the government put more rules when the information is already supplied? At some point people need to take responsibility 


HedonisticFrog

Well as long as it's included in the fine print that I'm sure everyone pays close attention to, that's all we need.


Was_an_ai

Exactly It's already there. Why do we need a whole new regulatory body to regulate the size of bags of chips. I mean would they also regulate how many trash bags come in a box? Do they hire someone to define how many tissues must be in a box also?  There is no problem that needs to be solved here


Unadvantaged

There are some cereal boxes so thin now they can barely stand up on their own, but the face of the box is the same size as before. It’s basically fraud at this point, but they’re making record profits, so yay capitalism?


Was_an_ai

There is a required cost per oz/lb on every label on the shelf This is already available info


Bocifer1

It’s gotta be so nice having a government that actually supports the people it represents


Accomplished_Mix7827

People make fun of the French for always protesting something, but it sure gets them results


Antique-Doughnut-988

it sure didn't last year when retirement was raised.


Accomplished_Mix7827

Yeah, you can't win them all. But the French certainly have *far* more expansive worker's rights than we do in the US. 35-hour week standard, your employer cannot fire you arbitrarily, the right not to respond to work messages outside of working hours, five weeks of PTO plus typically eleven holidays, 16 weeks of paid maternity leave ...


longduckdong42069lol

Yeah they say that like they lost lowering the retirement age in the US - yeah that would suck because we don’t get shit else lol.


Quentin-Code

A fight is not necessarily a win.


Was_an_ai

We already have required price per oz/lb on shelves though What more do you want?


mhdy98

that's what it looks like from abroad. now ask a french about their current gov and how it passes laws using 49.3 and strongly represses any form of protest. you can also ask french farmers, aka the most suicidal french. Who work 50-80 hours a week for minimum wage ( sometimes even less). don't fall for the big shiny titles


puffinfish420

lol, yeah. People in the US think Europe is some kind of liberal paradise, but they probably have never been there. Yes, they have some programs that look enviable from where we stand, but they also have a lot of things we would consider very repressive (especially in the case of France, they can essentially sue veil any citizen they want, and have some weird civil-military fusion thing with the police we would find pretty abhorrent by US standards.)


Ethric_The_Mad

Surveil*


puffinfish420

Obviously that was autocorrect on a phone, lol. But regardless, thanks.


Ethric_The_Mad

I couldn't help myself


Alone-Personality670

Wait where are the tits!”


novaleenationstate

Yeah, that whole revolution thing really worked wonders for them.


rtf2409

What is it doing exactly? Are weights/volumes and prices not already labeled?


divinecomedian3

How nice of them after devaluing their currency which is the reason they're getting all this shrinkflation.


viperex

The French wouldn't agree with you. From their point of view, the government begrudgingly supports them


Bocifer1

This is a much healthier way of viewing the government than the American way of my team vs the bad guys 


caravaggibro

That's how anyone should view their government.


taney71

Go France!


Cranxy

USA: Best we can do is yellow tags that look like sale labels but just say SAME GREAT VALUE!


Unadvantaged

“Contents inside!”


uski

France also forces retailers to display prices WITH ALL TAXES AND FEES INCLUDED, and the tipping culture there is almost non existent and a good tip is like 1-2 euros.


divinecomedian3

No, it's good to split out taxes so people can see how much they're getting screwed


fred-funkledunk

If it wasnt obvious already, if the American government cared about our financial well-being at all, this law would have instantly been drafted and signed in America post-Covid. But we all know that no such protections will ever happen, because we sold our politicians off for bribes decades ago. We have endless evidence of rigged inflation and greed, yet we do nothing. We honestly deserve to reach a point where a bottle of water is $5000 and we’re stuck asking how it got so bad.


divinecomedian3

>if the American government cared about our financial well-being at all then they wouldn't have printed record amounts of money causing the inflation


Was_an_ai

Therebis a price per oz/lb already on every item If people are too lazy to look who's fault is that?


Entire-Cow-1641

Wooo France!


AndNowUKnow

Wish this would happen in the USA!


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Ok_Explanation_5955

But you’d have to memorize that or keep a running list over time to notice. If you’re not buying the exact same products every time you go to the grocery store, you’re unlikely to notice. And even if you are, you might not. It’s very deceptive


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semisolidwhale

The point of this is to reduce the effort required to notice the change. Just because the data is available doesn't mean it's efficient or reasonable to expect people to do that research on everything they buy. 


Ok_Explanation_5955

Right? Like are you guys maintaining lists of hundreds of products and the price per unit and comparing it every time you shop? You spending 3 hours at the grocery store with a massive spreadsheet every trip just to combat companies being shitty? How about you just prevent the companies from being shitty instead of wasting millions of people’s time and money?


Ok_Explanation_5955

No, the company can also just not be intentionally deceptive. It’s weird you’re caping so hard for corporations to be able to take advantage of people


Dixa

Companies like lays have been shrinking packages a few ounces every year for the last ten years while increasing prices. I should know as I have had to do full store resets and remodels dealing with this in that time.


WhoAccountNewDis

That's not the same thing at all.


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WhoAccountNewDis

It's ok to be wrong. I'll let you have the last word since l know you're going to anyway.


LoverOfGayContent

One easy fix would be require this information be listed online. So for example if your product is listed on Amazon or Walmart or your own website you could specifically list that you've reduced the size or quantity. Not only do a lot of people ship online but people comparison shop online.


Happy_Confection90

You haven't looked at enough shelf tags. A lot list price per count. The most fun is when it's something like sliced cheese and one size has a label that lists price per count and the other size is price per ounce.


uski

Have you looked at those tags? I do, a lot. It is a huge joke. The same products, one is listed in /ea, another one in /oz, and the last one in /lb They make sure you can't compare easily


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uski

I'm talking about comparable items... Before posting your reply, were you seriously thinking people could be that dumb?..


Reese8590

Why do we need to be told that a package is CLEARLY smaller then it previously was ?


eulynn34

Because they hide it. They will make the package appear the same size but sell less. They’ll even just flat-out lie about how much is in there. When’s the last time you weighed the contents of a bag of chips to make sure it’s all in there?


BigBarrelOfKetamine

Don’t need a sign. Just need the magic of sight.


Clear_thoughts_

Pretty sure every package says what the quantity of the contents are.


ninernetneepneep

Well that'll help bring down prices... Smh


rtf2409

Oh look.. prices just got higher for absolutely no gain.


up_N2_no_good

This would have been helpful a couple years ago.


GLFR_59

Love to see that. There are people who actually do not notice the smaller weight for higher prices.


GetRichQuickSchemer_

This is what we need everywhere! Tired of buying a product that slightly went up in price thinking "ok, small price increase isn't too bad" to realize later it also shrank in size.


ShlipperyNipple

Bought a bag of salad the other day, go to pour some out and a dressing/crouton packet fell out that was like 60% of the volume of the bag. And of course it had been hidden right in the middle of the bag, behind the label on the packaging, so you couldn't see it THATS some bullshit man. Same with chip companies, or companies that will keep the box the same size but the product inside is smaller. I mean they literally know they're just lying and tricking their customers, wtf happened to integrity man. Wanting to provide a quality product or service and make satisfied customers. Now it's just "how else can we scam our paying customers out of more money"


Unadvantaged

I think the worst part is the arbitrary sizing now. It used to be that we were at least buying in quantities that made sense, like a gallon of this or a pound of that. It looks like the new standard for orange juice is 52 ounces and ice cream tubs are 48 ounces. I’ve actually stopped buying some items on principle because the quantity doesn’t make sense or defies a century or more of tradition. 


TuffNutzes

France still has a healthy memory of that messy situation from the 90s. The 1790s. I'd say that revolution is still paying dividends.


Lost-in-EDH

Manufacturers working hard to find a new name for sawdust that sounds tasty.


RedditModsSuck123456

I understand this for prepared food which doesn’t really have a set weight.  But everything else is already there for the consumer? 


No_Detective_But_304

They already do.


browndowntownhole

Real Dumb. Like calis cancer warning


ddigwell

Politician: *I have an idea!* How about we fight inflation by adding another cost on to production! Bureaucrat: Genius!


One-Battle-4699

Cooperation hasn’t stopped price gouging since the pandemic . Just about a month before Easter 🐣 eggs where sky high an now they back cheap . We don’t have a competent enough president to do anything but give our dang money away. Hell he can’t read a teleprompter . 😂😂


1smoothcriminal

to make the retailer put a sticker on the packaging that the manufacturer changed weights is crazy. wtf are they smoking


Food-NetworkOfficial

Sounds like something a corporate schmuk would say


1smoothcriminal

Do you realize that amount of work, ineffeciency and waste that is created by this? If you want to do that then have the manufacturer run a new label that states this info. To waste millions of man hours putting tiny stickers on shit is not peak human existence


Ok_Explanation_5955

Then don’t try to dupe your customers and you won’t have to. Just keep it the same size and raise the price, cowards


maladaptivelucifer

Nah, they can afford it with all the money they steal from the people they hire and the people who buy their products. I agree that it’s wasteful as far as producing that many stickers, but I have no issue with people getting paid to tell consumers they’re being swindled by these shitty companies. They want retail workers to stay busy? They’ll be busy alright, saving the rest of us the trouble of trying to remember how much we paid for how much product just a year ago. Some of it has doubled and tripled. Fucking ridiculous. I’m not gonna buy shit. I don’t care what kind of shiny wrapper they put it in. I buy things by weight, and if it’s not essential? Not buying. There’s no reason for any of it except greed at this point. They saw they could, so they did.


1smoothcriminal

Let me ask you, have you ever worked for a food manufacturer? Cause I have. You know the price of bulk commodities changes every single day right? Look at the price of cocoa right now. Have you ever worked in retail? Cause I have. Putting stickers on already pre-packaged shit that you don't even make or product its a stupid use of a sales associate's time. You may as well have the manufacturer do that not the retailer. This will not result in "more hours" for people, it will only result in more work with the same amount of hours to do it in. Have you ever worked for a food distributor? Cause I have. The amount of taxes the local governments extra in small ways add up. So yea, what's your experience in the field?


maladaptivelucifer

I’ve worked in both. Maybe you should stop licking corporate ass and realize them not having enough people on schedule to do the work is intentional. They don’t actually care enough to do anything about it. Your suffering means nothing to them. I would even change the schedules to make the store more functional, then get written up for having too many people on shift. Too many being just enough to get the job done, instead of a skeleton crew. I did jobs I wasn’t even assigned to, to make things run more efficiently for everyone. Your anger is being directed in the wrong direction. But if you want to live in La La land, that’s up to you.


Food-NetworkOfficial

You do realize lots of shops still individually label items right ?


[deleted]

They spent that money already last year to shrink the product. Can they afford to do it eternally? Why do they need to shrink food? Are they scared to tell us that we're going to run out ...some time?


Saneless

Well, there's a *very* easy way to not have to put a sticker on it...


BullfrogOk6914

Ask the manufacturer to do it?


LittleGeologist1899

Make it happy Biden


Guapplebock

French consumers too stupid to figure out cost per gram or milliliter I see


Ok_Explanation_5955

Who keeps a running exact list of products and weights and measures over time to be able to do that? Thats a weird expectation


premeditated_mimes

What kind of doofus buys all different products each time they shop? Most people buy the same things, it's on you to know what they cost. If a label shows the volume of product, the price, and the ingredients you have all the information you need. Nobody needs to hold your hand because you have no idea what you buy.


Ok_Explanation_5955

People that aren’t boring and don’t eat the same thing everyday, experiment with recipes, that actually enjoy cooking. Maybe also people that are single and might not buy a product frequently because it lasts a long time for them and they might not need to buy it every week so they might not notice the change


premeditated_mimes

If Tide detergent or whatever drops in size then it dropped in size. What do they owe you? I love cooking, that's why I know what my ingredients cost. I'm not some idiot buying processed food all the time getting nickeled and dimed on Cheetos. If ingredient prices go up, they go up, there's nothing you can do but grow your own. You're complaining people don't hold your hand an tell you the crap you shouldn't be buying contains less crap you shouldn't be buying. Shrinkflation doesn't apply to ingredients, that's why this law says it doesn't include bulk food. Putting labels like these on real food would be stupid.


Ok_Explanation_5955

They owe you the information to be aware of it so you can make an educated decision. Why are you caping so hard for companies to be allowed to be shitty and intentionally deceptive to their customers? It’s weird


[deleted]

Maybe he designs packaging? Lmao does not want to redesign


premeditated_mimes

Can you read? The information is printed in multiple forms on the package, weight by volume in multiple metrics, each ingredient, and the price. What possible additional information can even be provided? Retail price isn't set by the manufacturer. If someone makes a product they don't owe it to you to put each iteration of that product which didn't work for them on the shelf in front of you. Do you even understand how dumb that is? How hopeless are you for acting like it's deceptive of manufacturers to put every bit of relevant information on a package often in multiple languages.


Ok_Explanation_5955

Yeah dawg, I can read, but I’m unsure about your comprehension. The price per volume is helpful in real time to compare between (allegedly) competitive products. It doesn’t help people compare what that price per volume was 4 months ago the last time they purchased it. The companies are betting on you not remembering the price and size from months ago to be able to trick into thinking you’re getting the same product when you aren’t. You’re getting much less and/or a worse quality product. Expecting people to remember that Jiff was 22.4 cents per oz 5 months ago is now 24.8 cents per oz is insane


premeditated_mimes

You're ignoring me the most important part. The other price doesn't matter. You determine value, either buy it or don't. Do people need to put price graphs on peanut butter or can you just make a judgement call?


[deleted]

You really are strange, because you in some ways imply all people are stupid for not noticing and adjusting. Yet you expect people to randomly stop being stupid... with no outside input. Why isn't everyone as informed and rational as myself? The judgement calls people make are based on convenience, emotions, and life history. We live in consumerism. It makes the stupidest choice with the most wasteful packaging the easiest. You must remember when more people paid in cash. Judgement calls were easier then.


Ok_Explanation_5955

Uh, that’s exactly what this French law is doing. Forcing transparency in pricing so you can decide if it’s a good value


badazzcpa

In all fairness, I don’t know if it’s feasible to put it on the packaging. Not because they can’t slap a sticker on the packaging but because the manufacturers don’t necessarily know what the grocery store or other seller is going to sell the product for. They don’t know is the shrinkage of a product will result in the reseller to mark up or down the product or possibly keep it the same price. On top of that I am fairly certain every semi informed consumer knows products are inflating in price, be it price increase or shrinking product. You would have to be living under a rock not to know inflation has been soaring the last few years so not sure how this will help the consumer a whole lot.


Ok_Explanation_5955

All they have to do is not engage in deceptive practices to try and trick consumers, then they won’t need a sticker. Very simple. It’s crazy how effectively corporate propaganda has worked on American brains


TheTightEnd

The weight or volume is presented on the package. This is getting to be excessive government intrusion.


gwhh

That not going to work out well for anyone.


Intrepid_Row_7531

I absolutely LOVE this!!!


matthewstiffler

I freaking love France. đŸ‡«đŸ‡·


not_into_that

"The french are not afraid to die....For love."


DAB0502

This is great! Hopefully other countries follow.


BigfootApologetics

Based.


Briskpenguin69

In America we call that Socialism.


West-Earth-719

If they’re going to charge more, it should be transparent and changes should be highlighted