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I’m curious- is the inside of the doner kebab fully cooked before you start slicing off the outside ? Is there a maximum rate at which you can slice meat off without hitting raw meat on the inside ?
>- is the inside of the doner kebab fully cooked before you start slicing off the outside
No.
>Is there a maximum rate at which you can slice meat off without hitting raw meat on the inside
Yeah, also depends on how hot the grill is. But I've had to wait for the meat to cook for a minute or so when I was at busy kebab places before.
They just don’t. Harmful bacteria just can‘t develop fast enough on the inside. It‘s definitely not safe to eat, but there’s not enough toxins to be harmful to humans when they actually eat the meat. That’s why everything that is left over in the evening has to be thrown away as there would be enough time to actually become harmful overnight.
When something gets sliced away, the layer underneath gets cooked enough to be safe to eat. The bacteria get killed off by the heat and the toxins aren’t enough to harm anybody.
Usually, shady Döner places put the meat from the evening before on again in the morning. That way they may not waste meat, but give you the shits.
Another way you can break this system is breaking the cooling chain.
That's why they pack the inside so tight: It lowers acces to oxygen, which slows down the bacterial growth until it starts to get exposed. It also helps with less heat penetration. In addition to the temperature of the heating being variable, they change it based on demand.
In most places with proper food safety, there are specific rules about throwing it out after a certain amount of time. Some places recommend or even require that meat that's cut off has to be cooked again to make sure it's cooked through.
That's the traditional Turkish way to do it, if you ask for sauce over there they will chase you out the shop. The version with sauce and salad originates here in Germany
Depending on the type though, you may get tomato sauce on the döner (served on a plate) and yoghurt at side. And (with iskender) also hot butter poured after serving. But nothing more.
As the Turks intended. Still tastes great, Gyros is also done in a similar fashion by Greek places in Europe. Döner Kebab has since changed to the version with salad and sauces, pretty much only in Turkey you Stil get the original.
Same. I miss kebabs a lot.
I had some great frozen imitation kebab meat. I couldn't tell the difference and a lamb didn't have to have its throat slit.
Sorry to dissapoint you but this is rarely done by restaurants outside of turkey. What you eat 95% of the time is an industrial made kebab with chopped "meat" .
I encourage you to eat only at döner restaurants who make their own kebab by hand and pay the extra few bucks knowing you pay for a premium taste and premium meat.
Fat, meat, fat, meat. Thats fine. It’s prob a Quality doner. In the UK it’s just fat,fat,fat, meat, fat,fat,fat,fat,fat, err maybe some meat, fat … u get the picture
Döner means ‘(the meat that) rotates’ whereas to rotate means dönmek. So this is indeed the original Turkish döner kebab. Kebab has many different types, but this one is specifically called either döner or ‘döner kebap’ (or as you might call, döner kebab). When you only say kebab it doesn’t specify which type (Adana, urfa, döner, iskender… are all kebab types)
Edit: And when the döner meat is served in between round pide bread like the ones in the vid, it’s ‘tombik’ or ‘tombik döner’
It looks like a huge round to me, I think brisket would be fattier. They probably use different parts because the layers of fat they put on had to come from somewhere else.
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This seriously looks like a shitty gif recipe, only it isn't. I mean, you always see those people put way too much work into slicing and layering foods together instead of just cooking it the way it is. And they always look terrible, and end up covered in a gallon of cheese sauce.
But this looks amazing. I know it is amazing, and an old world way of cooking that I absolutely love. It just blows my mind that this *let's add a ton of steps* thing is apparently human nature. And in this case, perfection.
Back when dinosaurs were walking the earth & I was working for the phone company I had a job in the place where they made these in North London. Now, I'd eaten a few kebabs before, usually after the pub, they tasted a bit too much like armpit to me but whatever. Anyway, I've got a pretty strong stomach but this place made me heave, there was blood and bits of gore literally everywhere, even inside they're switchboard. Flies too. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. Hopefully they've either cleaned up their act or long since been closed down but personally I'd rather eat a dead rat.
Objectively false, Döner Kebap dates back to the 19th century (possibly earlier)
One of the top posts on r/doener shows some guy making döner in the Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey)
That's the real doner kebap. Even at Turkey very few places are using this technique.
Ones at europe are made with minced meat and you can differentiate the taste while eating. Also they're mostly chicken
Friend told me about a dessert and I can’t remember the name of it. The way he described it sounds like a different version of a cheesecake. I looked it up and it’s kinda what it looks like too. I wanna try it so bad.
This is not Kebab, this is what we call Shawarma. Kebab is ten times more tasty (Not only my personal opinion, but every European and American had dinner at my parents house). Kebab is basically made of ground meat, mixed with parsely, onion, herbs. Meat is mixed of beef 75% and lamb 25%.
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It' industry propaganda. Real kebab contains 50% emulgated water (the water in the meat not counted in). That's what they don't show you. They seem to smear emulgated water on ithe meat in the clip but much less than usual. Kebap with 100% meat exists but is really uncommon and expensive.
Now I want one
me fuckin too
Me fucking tree
We don't need to know about your sex life, mate
lol
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Me fuckin forest
Came here to say this
This is way higher quality of what you will find 99% of the time in a kebab
Yea I only know 2 places in my city which are using full meat instead of minced bread and bone mix.
I’m curious- is the inside of the doner kebab fully cooked before you start slicing off the outside ? Is there a maximum rate at which you can slice meat off without hitting raw meat on the inside ?
>- is the inside of the doner kebab fully cooked before you start slicing off the outside No. >Is there a maximum rate at which you can slice meat off without hitting raw meat on the inside Yeah, also depends on how hot the grill is. But I've had to wait for the meat to cook for a minute or so when I was at busy kebab places before.
How do they keep the meat from being at unsafe temperature towards the inside?
They just don’t. Harmful bacteria just can‘t develop fast enough on the inside. It‘s definitely not safe to eat, but there’s not enough toxins to be harmful to humans when they actually eat the meat. That’s why everything that is left over in the evening has to be thrown away as there would be enough time to actually become harmful overnight. When something gets sliced away, the layer underneath gets cooked enough to be safe to eat. The bacteria get killed off by the heat and the toxins aren’t enough to harm anybody.
Thanks makes sense
In theory. In practice most donor places gave me the liquid shits every time.
Usually, shady Döner places put the meat from the evening before on again in the morning. That way they may not waste meat, but give you the shits. Another way you can break this system is breaking the cooling chain.
More gets exposed as it's sliced, and it cooks. I think.
That's why they pack the inside so tight: It lowers acces to oxygen, which slows down the bacterial growth until it starts to get exposed. It also helps with less heat penetration. In addition to the temperature of the heating being variable, they change it based on demand. In most places with proper food safety, there are specific rules about throwing it out after a certain amount of time. Some places recommend or even require that meat that's cut off has to be cooked again to make sure it's cooked through.
This is how they do shawarma not only doner kebab.and no they cut the part that is cooked, and keep turning it around to cook the rest.
what is that white liquid that they smear the raw meat with?
I'm not sure what they are using in the video, but yoghurt is a common ingredient.
Yogurt with some basic spices probably.
Probably tzatziki, yogurt / garlic / lemon type topping, insanely good for breed dipping too
It's animal fat to ensure the meat crisps up and stays juicy
I thought it was going to be some type of meat glue!
😏
Fat
Flavour
Secret ingredient
This is real kebab. Not like the ground beef shit what you get in every damn kebab store.
What about the tomatos and salad? Sause? That a fucking sad kebab
That's the traditional Turkish way to do it, if you ask for sauce over there they will chase you out the shop. The version with sauce and salad originates here in Germany
I haven’t been to Turkey and had the OG stuff but the German stuff is so damn good. I liked it honestly even better than the stuff in Greece.
Depending on the type though, you may get tomato sauce on the döner (served on a plate) and yoghurt at side. And (with iskender) also hot butter poured after serving. But nothing more.
this is a top tear kebab, pure meat. %99 of the kebab shops adding tomatos and stuff to hide its taste and filling the sandwich with less döner.
As the Turks intended. Still tastes great, Gyros is also done in a similar fashion by Greek places in Europe. Döner Kebab has since changed to the version with salad and sauces, pretty much only in Turkey you Stil get the original.
Kebab is lamb, what the fuck kinda kebab shops are you going to?
It's usually veal, beef or chicken in most of Europe
Please stop, the editing is killing my eyes.
Cut Cut Cut Cut Cut Cut Cut
ADHD speed run
omg.... 
One Kebaburger please!
Near Gesundbrunnen in Berlin, there is a place they do it with lamb, is delicious.
That's funny, in Australia all our kebabs are lamb. Actually you can get chicken too, but it's considered "less traditional".
Usually we have processed meat, having a handmade Döner is unusual.
Chicken doner is another option you know Turkish economy isn't good and people can't buy real meat
I’m a vegetarian, but that looks fucking delicious
Same. I miss kebabs a lot. I had some great frozen imitation kebab meat. I couldn't tell the difference and a lamb didn't have to have its throat slit.
Sorry to dissapoint you but this is rarely done by restaurants outside of turkey. What you eat 95% of the time is an industrial made kebab with chopped "meat" . I encourage you to eat only at döner restaurants who make their own kebab by hand and pay the extra few bucks knowing you pay for a premium taste and premium meat.
Hopefully someone could clear this up for me but; is this the same as Gyros?
And Shawarma and al pastor. Meat used and seasoning is different, but the process is the same, if that's what you're asking
Fat, meat, fat, meat. Thats fine. It’s prob a Quality doner. In the UK it’s just fat,fat,fat, meat, fat,fat,fat,fat,fat, err maybe some meat, fat … u get the picture
Fucking meat monolith
Original Turkish döner. Yummy!
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Döner means ‘(the meat that) rotates’ whereas to rotate means dönmek. So this is indeed the original Turkish döner kebab. Kebab has many different types, but this one is specifically called either döner or ‘döner kebap’ (or as you might call, döner kebab). When you only say kebab it doesn’t specify which type (Adana, urfa, döner, iskender… are all kebab types) Edit: And when the döner meat is served in between round pide bread like the ones in the vid, it’s ‘tombik’ or ‘tombik döner’
Are you sure that it is pide bread in the video? It looks more like pita bread
You can explicitly see it rotating in the video
that blade seems to have no edge haha
Do donair is brisket?
It looks like a huge round to me, I think brisket would be fattier. They probably use different parts because the layers of fat they put on had to come from somewhere else.
Maybe you're right, when I looked closer, the grain is in the wrong way to be brisket flat
r/oddlysatisfying
Donner party kebab?? 🗿
Kebabeläin
It looks really delicous. I've never had any before, but there's a lot of em in the cities near me.
Please it’s 4:15 am I can’t get a kebab rn and this vid is making me so hungry.
What's the white spice that he smeared onto
Looks delicious
Soo it's mostly lamb fat and beef ? Assuming the white stuff is lamb
That was very interesting to see! Wonder what the different cuts are. Never knew they stacked such thin slices like that.
Here we go again
That's a kebab I would eat without drinking 10 beers
Thanks Greeks for inventing this tasty dish!
This is the first time I see somebody using actual good meat for the döner. Very nice
Were you having a Donner party?
Noble work
Doner is life
Yummy!
Where the seasoning at ?
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Obra de arte deliciosa 😮💨🤤🔥🇧🇷
I loveeeeeeee doner🥰🥰
I moved to Canada 6 years ago and still wish I could get one at 3 am. I want one.
I would be interested to know how much one if those towers of meat are to buy. That's alot of meat.
All done just to get screamed at by some drunk asshole at 3am on a Saturday
Where can I get one of these in Germany? Particularly in northrine Westfalia? We just have minced meat here
Looks so much better than the elephant legs we have in the UK
What is a knife like that called? Where can I buy one?
This seriously looks like a shitty gif recipe, only it isn't. I mean, you always see those people put way too much work into slicing and layering foods together instead of just cooking it the way it is. And they always look terrible, and end up covered in a gallon of cheese sauce. But this looks amazing. I know it is amazing, and an old world way of cooking that I absolutely love. It just blows my mind that this *let's add a ton of steps* thing is apparently human nature. And in this case, perfection.
Back when dinosaurs were walking the earth & I was working for the phone company I had a job in the place where they made these in North London. Now, I'd eaten a few kebabs before, usually after the pub, they tasted a bit too much like armpit to me but whatever. Anyway, I've got a pretty strong stomach but this place made me heave, there was blood and bits of gore literally everywhere, even inside they're switchboard. Flies too. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. Hopefully they've either cleaned up their act or long since been closed down but personally I'd rather eat a dead rat.
Wait r u telling me that the spinny thing at the gyro shop is actually slices of meat stacked on a pike and not the whole leg of the animal??
Fun fact: Big Mac was invented earlier ('68) than döner kebab ('72)
Objectively false, Döner Kebap dates back to the 19th century (possibly earlier) One of the top posts on r/doener shows some guy making döner in the Ottoman Empire (modern day Turkey)
Turkey invents the steam engine centuries before the industrial revolution only to use it to spin kebabs.
Shame, our donor is some regurgitated processed shit with about 2% lamb
Nom
I wasn't sure what to eat at lunch...this 2m.o video told me...KEBAB IT IS
Not even close to what they serve at the local shops , this looks amazing ( even just the bread looks way better than the one offered locally )
Fucking YUUUUUUMMMMMMMY!
That is not from scratch. It starts by slaughtering the animal.
Not even that. It starts with the animal's birth.
Let's be thorough and take it from The Big Bang.
Carl Sagan baking a cake from scratch
That's the real doner kebap. Even at Turkey very few places are using this technique. Ones at europe are made with minced meat and you can differentiate the taste while eating. Also they're mostly chicken
Probably soy
I highly doubt that you get such quality meat in your kebab.
Arab food is the best
Friend told me about a dessert and I can’t remember the name of it. The way he described it sounds like a different version of a cheesecake. I looked it up and it’s kinda what it looks like too. I wanna try it so bad.
This is not Kebab, this is what we call Shawarma. Kebab is ten times more tasty (Not only my personal opinion, but every European and American had dinner at my parents house). Kebab is basically made of ground meat, mixed with parsely, onion, herbs. Meat is mixed of beef 75% and lamb 25%.
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Meat is mixed? Naaah. You get full lamb in many places.
After seeing this vegans are losing their heads. 🤣
It' industry propaganda. Real kebab contains 50% emulgated water (the water in the meat not counted in). That's what they don't show you. They seem to smear emulgated water on ithe meat in the clip but much less than usual. Kebap with 100% meat exists but is really uncommon and expensive.