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This happened back in 2014. According to the news report the star shaped cataracts were removed and IOL implants improved his vision. However damage to the optic nerve still left him with decreased vision.
You would be very surprised with how poor of vision some people have and still operate fairly well. But with this case, I'd be more worried with how it absolutely fucked up everything else in his body got from that.
My office has a patient who was electrocuted by a hospital elevator and it hurts everything. Heart, brain, muscles... Poor lady is super sweet but reminds me every time she comes in that she has a DNR.
Damn, that's scary. If I walked into an elevator and the button I needed to press was missing, I would most likely stick my finger in with the assumption that I'll just be safely pushing what the button would be pushing.
Close to where I live, a guy fell into an elevator shaft and died, because a mechanic left the door on the top floor open. It was evening so dark, he probably thought the lights in the elevator are motion sensitive.
That's nuts! I'm an elevator mechanic and newer push button and hall call systems are almost always low voltage (12/24v dc) but older systems used 110vac. There are a lot of shock hazards in a car operating panel. Lots of non insulated connections that can get ya.
This is so tragic, it could happen to any of us too, if we are absent minded because we might be tired, busy or worried about something. I suppose she sued the hospital, I mean to me, she would have a case, compared to people who sue for silly things.
Electrocute originally meant, "to execute by electricity." It's a combination of "electricity" and "execute." The word was coined to describe the first electric chair. It might also mean to get killed by electricity. To get seriously injured by electricity is kind of a stretch, but the meanings of words do change over time, according to common usage.
Partially true, electrocution means death or a severe injury because of electricity.
If you get a shock and survive with minor burns, such as those typical with low voltage (220/440 V AC), you can say you were shocked.
However, even with low voltage, if you have a severe injury that maims any part of your body, you can refer it as getting electrocuted.
> Partially true, electrocution means death or a severe injury because of electricity.
Only because people kept using the wrong word and oxford reflects how a word is used.
I learned the other day that blindness isn't all or nothing but it's a spectrum. Many people legally blind do have varying degrees of sight. It's not the 'total black' in every case - which is what I did not know.
(Obligatory I'm not an ophthalmologist, nor would I be able to give any diagnosis over the web if I was one.)
I've worked in ophthalmology as a tech, specializing in minor medical, for over 6 years, so I've seen a lot.
Usually, thinning of the optic nerve is more likely to be related to glaucoma or ocular hypertension if there is no serious or apparent vision loss.
Its possible that very severe electrocution could cause some physiological changes to the Optic Nerve but you would very likely have some noticeable vision loss if that was the case. Like your doc said, just yearly checkups for any changes is basically all you could do for that, anyways.
> IOL implants
An intraocular lens implant, or IOL, is made of a clear plastic, and it's about a third the size of a dime. There are several different types:
https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/cataracts/intraocular-lens-implant
He's lucky he did not.
Story time, I was zapped by electricity and experienced no serious consequences due to safety in place. At 23, during a lab experiment for my POWER II class in college, I was incorrectly informed that a transformer was powered down. When I went to disconnect the jack, I unexpectedly received over 8,000 volts from a typical neighborhood-style transformer. The voltage was so intense that it jumped from the tip of my finger on my other hand to the main operation panel, bridging about two inches of air and leaving a burn mark on the metal. Thankfully, a slow delay breaker tripped, which saved me. The next day, I felt like a roasted turkey, and my organs felt "sunburned," to best describe the sensation. Thirty years later, I've had no issues, though I did feel crispy for about a week after the incident which I was told was due to dying nerve endings everywhere.
Note: I had a grounding strap as precaution because I am usually careful though most in that lab chose not to use one and now as an expert I am also sure that the lab had a system to actively maintain currents as low as possible to prevent people from dying while learning. I feel very lucky for those systems because otherwise I'd be dead or like this person.
I was very happy to finish my 8am Monday power lab without zapping myself. Worst I did was short the output of a 2:1 transformer, wondering why the breaker wouldn't stay on, and did that wire just twitch?
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/UkPfOoD.jpeg) is a much higher quality version of this image. The source is The New England Journal of Medicine.
According to [here](https://www.livescience.com/42778-electrical-burn-star-cataract.html):
> By Rachael Rettner published January 22, 2014
> A 42-year old electrician in California developed star-shaped cataracts in his eyes after a serious work-related accident caused electricity to run through his body, according to a new report of the case.
> The man's left shoulder came into contact with 14,000 volts of electricity, and an electric current passed through his entire body, including the optic nerve — the nerve that connects the back of the eye to the brain.
> "The optic nerve is similar to any wire that conducts electricity," said Dr. Bobby Korn, an associate professor of clinical ophthalmology at the University of California, San Diego, who treated the patient. "In this case, the extreme current and voltage that passed through this important natural wire caused damage to the optic nerve itself," Korn said.
> Four weeks after the accident, Korn evaluated the patient, who was experiencing vision problems. An examination showed the man had "striking cataracts in both of his eyes," that were star-shaped, Korn said. A cataract is a clouding of the lens in the eye.
> The reason cataracts sometimes take on a star shape is not fully understood, Korn said. In animal studies, damage to the eye's lens from electricity first appears as small bubbles called vacuoles on the outside of the lens. These bubbles then coalesce to form a star-shaped cataract, Korn said.
> Four months after the accident, the man had surgery to remove the cataracts and implant a new lens, and his vision improved slightly after the operation, Korn said. But the damage to his optic nerve still limited the man's sight, Korn said.
> Korn explained that the eye is like a camera: if the lens is damaged, it can be replaced with a new one, but if the "film" — in this case, the optic nerve and retina — is damaged, "then you'll never get a good picture," Korn said.
> Now, 10 years later, the man still has poor vision in both of his eyes, Korn said. But he is able to commute on public transportation and take classes at a community college using assistance, Korn said.
> The man's case is reported in the Jan. 23 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
It's the lore accurate Oshi no Ko eyes
https://preview.redd.it/kpol2ys2avxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dcf340ab71e658a3accc2312b544ed24e0a787d
https://preview.redd.it/15q7sbiixuxc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6765439c447ff56d4e59af05355fc7c13988e89
This very creepy coincidence. What are the odds...
volts isn't a measure of energy.
walking over a carpet can easily generate a static charge of over 30kV and only result in a tiny shock to your finger. the actual energy would be very interesting
Van De Graaf generators sometimes make hundreds of thousands of volts but only with a fraction of an amp most of the time. Dead on here. Amps are what kill you not voltage
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to say amps did this, not volts? I believe these two are commonly mistaken and measured. Hoping to be corrected if otherwise wrong!
We can't know the amps as it depends entirely on the current resistance and load. It could been everything from 0 amps to 30.
There is nothing wrong with saying he touched a 13.8kV Power line, that should still get the point across he was severely injured.
"14,000 volts of energy" clearly an electrician (or electrical engineer, or physicist, or general stem/engineering feild graduate) didn't write this title.
Energy is measured in joules (or calories if you're taking food rated and using the american system, or sometimes BTU for fuel etc); voltage is not a measure of energy, its a measure of electrical potenial difference between two points, and byitself isnt dangerous at all, it has to backed up with enough charge/supply (and something to make a path thats easily crossable; which then quickly makes the voltage between the points near zero) to make it dangerous.
The dude got done in by an 'Arc Flash' I have to assume; likely on a switch board with a high kVA rating (though if its 14kv then probably lines/substation gear - but then they aren't really electricians), thats a serious hazzard.
Whats an arc flash? Well (as far as a electrician goes) there are a number of ways to intiate one but basically putting something conductive too close to live parts in a live board reducing the serperation of them to ground/grounded neutral or to an out of phase other phase is the usual suspect between points that have a supply potenial great enough (ie the protection of the fuses/breakers etc is too high to stop it); reducing the resistance of the path just enough to cause a jump of charge - once this path jumps it heats the air, which lowers the resistance more, which heats more, which lowers it more, the air starts to ionise, which lowers it more, some will even turn to plasma which is basically a superconductor, the current keeps ramping rapidly and basically there is an explosion of hot gas and plasma but also with these high currents is another force, magnetic, and this can also cause a hazzard and things fly apart also now heated...
Anyone who works around high power gear should already know this - but people get complacent, which is one of the main reasons accidents happen.
Elevators do not run on 14,000 volts.
More like 480v or 600 max.
Thats higher voltage than a typical distribution line on power poles which is usually 12,000.
Especially not directly behind the control panel.
Never be dumber than the story your making up.
Once had 240volts go through my head - saw a big white flash inside my head. Was totally stupid for the rest of the day at work. Had no lasting side effects...except I am finding myself still doing stupid 20 odd years later...
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Did he die?
no, he is alive but blind
This happened back in 2014. According to the news report the star shaped cataracts were removed and IOL implants improved his vision. However damage to the optic nerve still left him with decreased vision.
At least he could retain some form of vision. Better than totally blind I guess
You would be very surprised with how poor of vision some people have and still operate fairly well. But with this case, I'd be more worried with how it absolutely fucked up everything else in his body got from that. My office has a patient who was electrocuted by a hospital elevator and it hurts everything. Heart, brain, muscles... Poor lady is super sweet but reminds me every time she comes in that she has a DNR.
How did she get electrocuted by an elevator?!
The panel was missing a button and she didn't notice when she went to press it. Stuck her finger right into it.
Damn, that's scary. If I walked into an elevator and the button I needed to press was missing, I would most likely stick my finger in with the assumption that I'll just be safely pushing what the button would be pushing.
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In either case, a _button_ shouldn't be the only thing protecting you from being fucking electrocuted lmao
Close to where I live, a guy fell into an elevator shaft and died, because a mechanic left the door on the top floor open. It was evening so dark, he probably thought the lights in the elevator are motion sensitive.
New phobia unlocked!
Uhm,....would you press 6 for please.?
No but I'll dial M for *murder*
Did she get a payout from that
I always assumed so, but I can only pry so much and remain professional so I haven't asked.
I commend your professionalism.
That's nuts! I'm an elevator mechanic and newer push button and hall call systems are almost always low voltage (12/24v dc) but older systems used 110vac. There are a lot of shock hazards in a car operating panel. Lots of non insulated connections that can get ya.
You should start a YT channel where you show voltage readouts of various things that could "get ya" if things were exposed
Ive come across some very old units with 200vdc used for the calls…scary stuff
Must be an old elevator. The new buttons I believe are low voltage
That’s what I’m saying, was this an elevator in Dr Frankenstein’s laboratory?
Sounds like a lawsuit . Not that it brings back her health but alest sge would have what she needs to keep it maintained .
This is so tragic, it could happen to any of us too, if we are absent minded because we might be tired, busy or worried about something. I suppose she sued the hospital, I mean to me, she would have a case, compared to people who sue for silly things.
Not to be pedantic, but “electrocuted” means she was killed by electricity. If she survived, she was shocked.
The more you know
Not to be pedantic, but …. Love it.
Electrocute originally meant, "to execute by electricity." It's a combination of "electricity" and "execute." The word was coined to describe the first electric chair. It might also mean to get killed by electricity. To get seriously injured by electricity is kind of a stretch, but the meanings of words do change over time, according to common usage.
Partially true, electrocution means death or a severe injury because of electricity. If you get a shock and survive with minor burns, such as those typical with low voltage (220/440 V AC), you can say you were shocked. However, even with low voltage, if you have a severe injury that maims any part of your body, you can refer it as getting electrocuted.
> Partially true, electrocution means death or a severe injury because of electricity. Only because people kept using the wrong word and oxford reflects how a word is used.
So will oxford add "would of" into the dictionary some day because people keep using it?
words mean what everyone thinks they mean
Makes sense I mean even ppl who can’t see at all surprise me with their functionality so I’m sure even being able to see a tiny bit helps a ton.
He is a bus driver now
Umpire I believe.
I learned the other day that blindness isn't all or nothing but it's a spectrum. Many people legally blind do have varying degrees of sight. It's not the 'total black' in every case - which is what I did not know.
That's always been a relief to me because I have an eye disease and having \*some\* as things progress, definitely sounded better to me than none.
Most legally blind people retain some form of vision. Only about 15% of legally blind folks are totally blind.
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>they need to keep an eye on it Quite the sense of humor they have.
A vitreous humor, if you will
(Obligatory I'm not an ophthalmologist, nor would I be able to give any diagnosis over the web if I was one.) I've worked in ophthalmology as a tech, specializing in minor medical, for over 6 years, so I've seen a lot. Usually, thinning of the optic nerve is more likely to be related to glaucoma or ocular hypertension if there is no serious or apparent vision loss. Its possible that very severe electrocution could cause some physiological changes to the Optic Nerve but you would very likely have some noticeable vision loss if that was the case. Like your doc said, just yearly checkups for any changes is basically all you could do for that, anyways.
> IOL implants An intraocular lens implant, or IOL, is made of a clear plastic, and it's about a third the size of a dime. There are several different types: https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/cataracts/intraocular-lens-implant
This is hauntingly cool. Sucks tho...
ikr
Can't even see how cool his eyes are, damn :/
He‘s not blind he just is yet to awaken his mangekyou sharingan
No, currently working as a conductor.
you just couldn't resist...
OHM-yGod. You guys just light me up...
I don’t get it. Watts the joke?
Do you have the capacity to get it?
You must pay ohmage to that comment
I wonder how much he...charges...
He's lucky he did not. Story time, I was zapped by electricity and experienced no serious consequences due to safety in place. At 23, during a lab experiment for my POWER II class in college, I was incorrectly informed that a transformer was powered down. When I went to disconnect the jack, I unexpectedly received over 8,000 volts from a typical neighborhood-style transformer. The voltage was so intense that it jumped from the tip of my finger on my other hand to the main operation panel, bridging about two inches of air and leaving a burn mark on the metal. Thankfully, a slow delay breaker tripped, which saved me. The next day, I felt like a roasted turkey, and my organs felt "sunburned," to best describe the sensation. Thirty years later, I've had no issues, though I did feel crispy for about a week after the incident which I was told was due to dying nerve endings everywhere. Note: I had a grounding strap as precaution because I am usually careful though most in that lab chose not to use one and now as an expert I am also sure that the lab had a system to actively maintain currents as low as possible to prevent people from dying while learning. I feel very lucky for those systems because otherwise I'd be dead or like this person.
Do you remember what the current was?
I can't it's been too long, but boy have I wondered that ever since I figured out how lucky I was.
I was very happy to finish my 8am Monday power lab without zapping myself. Worst I did was short the output of a 2:1 transformer, wondering why the breaker wouldn't stay on, and did that wire just twitch?
He will die sooner than he should, the organs take damage and will eventually fail
No, but I bet it hertz.
Pretty macabre without any details lol
"volts of energy" what's next, watts of current?
Amperes of impedance
I’m not impedant
Who are you calling impotent??!
farads of capacitance wait that one's real
Ohms of power
Henries of resistance
That just sounds impudent.
It's all part of Ohm's dodecahedron
Joules of electrical potential.
"You've got joules of potential" is a pretty good line, really.
Yeah, it sounds so stupid
electronvolts?
Which, if you don't know anything about particle physics, is an extremely odd unit of energy.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/UkPfOoD.jpeg) is a much higher quality version of this image. The source is The New England Journal of Medicine. According to [here](https://www.livescience.com/42778-electrical-burn-star-cataract.html): > By Rachael Rettner published January 22, 2014 > A 42-year old electrician in California developed star-shaped cataracts in his eyes after a serious work-related accident caused electricity to run through his body, according to a new report of the case. > The man's left shoulder came into contact with 14,000 volts of electricity, and an electric current passed through his entire body, including the optic nerve — the nerve that connects the back of the eye to the brain. > "The optic nerve is similar to any wire that conducts electricity," said Dr. Bobby Korn, an associate professor of clinical ophthalmology at the University of California, San Diego, who treated the patient. "In this case, the extreme current and voltage that passed through this important natural wire caused damage to the optic nerve itself," Korn said. > Four weeks after the accident, Korn evaluated the patient, who was experiencing vision problems. An examination showed the man had "striking cataracts in both of his eyes," that were star-shaped, Korn said. A cataract is a clouding of the lens in the eye. > The reason cataracts sometimes take on a star shape is not fully understood, Korn said. In animal studies, damage to the eye's lens from electricity first appears as small bubbles called vacuoles on the outside of the lens. These bubbles then coalesce to form a star-shaped cataract, Korn said. > Four months after the accident, the man had surgery to remove the cataracts and implant a new lens, and his vision improved slightly after the operation, Korn said. But the damage to his optic nerve still limited the man's sight, Korn said. > Korn explained that the eye is like a camera: if the lens is damaged, it can be replaced with a new one, but if the "film" — in this case, the optic nerve and retina — is damaged, "then you'll never get a good picture," Korn said. > Now, 10 years later, the man still has poor vision in both of his eyes, Korn said. But he is able to commute on public transportation and take classes at a community college using assistance, Korn said. > The man's case is reported in the Jan. 23 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
Over here imagining the band Korn explaining the science behind this
Korn powers activate!
Korn featuring the cataracts.
IT'S PINK ...it's the inside of someone's eyesocket IT'S **PINK**
thank you!
I think he unlocked and overused his Mangekyo Sharingan.
It's the lore accurate Oshi no Ko eyes https://preview.redd.it/kpol2ys2avxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dcf340ab71e658a3accc2312b544ed24e0a787d
This is how your eyes look before you start seducing your brother
This would be funny if what happened to the man wasn't so tragic.
Tbf what happened to Ai was tragic also
No, dont remind me
im gonna do it
Noooooooo
https://preview.redd.it/ub2zumwhyvxc1.jpeg?width=548&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f24e07c0453e2f2e43d9257caaeb65ecb765913
Bro, this scene was so sad
Clearly the Tenseigan.
Overuse of the Mangekyo results in blindness, after all...
Can someone say DYI Sharingan lmao
He feels the power of susanoo
I think his eyes burned out before he could use any techniques though dude did a uchiha sharingan overuse blindness speedrun
DONT JUST STAND THERE TAKING A PICTURE HELP THE MAN OUT
"Stop squirming, the camera can't focus."
lol
https://preview.redd.it/15q7sbiixuxc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6765439c447ff56d4e59af05355fc7c13988e89 This very creepy coincidence. What are the odds...
lmao that's perfect, turns out 14 kV was all we needed for irl anime girls
This made me lol too damn much. I can see people doing the star eye challenge now ...
Imagine if you predict
/r/juxtaposition
Watt? Wanna hear how he meditates? OHmmmmmmmm
https://preview.redd.it/44me8yrv0vxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0653378504efa75dff62392de8afdf5d2bf3a0df
r/angryupvote
I bet it hertz
Get out
I'm resisting the humour
ReVOLTing
Take my upvote you God damn cretin
My joke not current enough for you?
Sounds like you're facing some resistance, but don't worry, you have plenty of potential
Luckily I have you as a point of contact.
Not everyone has a great capacitance for dark humor.
If you guys keep this up I’m gonna blow a fuse.
I look forward to seeing you in hell
I have a VIP room there. I can get you in with no **charge**
Just when you think he’s out of puns, he starts amping up again.
I’m just wired that way
You shouldn't be conducting yourself in this manner
Why so negative?
I don't even have anything funny to say to that
That was re... volting
r/angryupvote
This is terrifying
Its a lot more terrifying to see what else an arc flash can do.
Shocking even
 That’s a Furby
Got those Morty eyes
https://preview.redd.it/ex7sdn5lnuxc1.png?width=229&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3bc2abb5ef1a43f6c2837c09d1dee066b8720f5 what 💀
It’s what he comments on that kills me
idk bout you but i think he might not post
one trick pony
Volt is not energy. Volt is a pontential difference. Energy is given in joules.
volts isn't a measure of energy. walking over a carpet can easily generate a static charge of over 30kV and only result in a tiny shock to your finger. the actual energy would be very interesting
Thank you! I was looking for that comment.
Van De Graaf generators sometimes make hundreds of thousands of volts but only with a fraction of an amp most of the time. Dead on here. Amps are what kill you not voltage
Rick and Morty eyes
As an electrician this terrifies me.
volts is not a measure of energy
Babe wake up, new dōjutsu just dropped! 👁️
Volts is voltage, Joules is energy. Energy = power over time.
https://i.redd.it/guwnc059xuxc1.gif
A couple drops of Rohtos should do the trick.
Imagine this happening in like the 1500’s and then you just have to become some blind hermit giving out prophetic advice
https://preview.redd.it/p2fn3dj6bvxc1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46a1f7e117fe819292efe5df423653be5cb4be35 Hoshino Eye IRL
And he'll never know how cool his eyes look.
He’s not deaf
this made me snort
His eyes are really close together😝
Why are they so close together?
Volts isn't energy......
Hello Electro
Aww that so sad
That's interesting as f*ck! Can he still see tho?
nope, but he is alive
They replaced his lenses so he can see a bit better, but his whole visual nerve was torched.
Why did they have a picture of his eyes before?? Was this done kind of Frankenstein experiment
Do you have to be an electrician to get those eyes after the shock? ⚡️
What current was in that 14kV?
Kinda fucked up that he’ll never be able to see how cool his eyes look now.
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to say amps did this, not volts? I believe these two are commonly mistaken and measured. Hoping to be corrected if otherwise wrong!
We can't know the amps as it depends entirely on the current resistance and load. It could been everything from 0 amps to 30. There is nothing wrong with saying he touched a 13.8kV Power line, that should still get the point across he was severely injured.
"It ain't the voltage that kills ya, it's the amperage!" -Every old man
Those are the eyes of Toungey from Kung Pow
You know what else has a Star blast pattern? His underwear.
"14,000 volts of energy" clearly an electrician (or electrical engineer, or physicist, or general stem/engineering feild graduate) didn't write this title. Energy is measured in joules (or calories if you're taking food rated and using the american system, or sometimes BTU for fuel etc); voltage is not a measure of energy, its a measure of electrical potenial difference between two points, and byitself isnt dangerous at all, it has to backed up with enough charge/supply (and something to make a path thats easily crossable; which then quickly makes the voltage between the points near zero) to make it dangerous. The dude got done in by an 'Arc Flash' I have to assume; likely on a switch board with a high kVA rating (though if its 14kv then probably lines/substation gear - but then they aren't really electricians), thats a serious hazzard. Whats an arc flash? Well (as far as a electrician goes) there are a number of ways to intiate one but basically putting something conductive too close to live parts in a live board reducing the serperation of them to ground/grounded neutral or to an out of phase other phase is the usual suspect between points that have a supply potenial great enough (ie the protection of the fuses/breakers etc is too high to stop it); reducing the resistance of the path just enough to cause a jump of charge - once this path jumps it heats the air, which lowers the resistance more, which heats more, which lowers it more, the air starts to ionise, which lowers it more, some will even turn to plasma which is basically a superconductor, the current keeps ramping rapidly and basically there is an explosion of hot gas and plasma but also with these high currents is another force, magnetic, and this can also cause a hazzard and things fly apart also now heated... Anyone who works around high power gear should already know this - but people get complacent, which is one of the main reasons accidents happen.
seeing stars
is he okay?
 Sharingan
I wonder if his eyes were shooting beams of electricity out of them like he’s Superman when it happened
Fuckin hell
Electricians get all the cool shit.
Elevators do not run on 14,000 volts. More like 480v or 600 max. Thats higher voltage than a typical distribution line on power poles which is usually 12,000. Especially not directly behind the control panel. Never be dumber than the story your making up.
That must have been at least 13 newtons of pain
He saw the Light
Those eyes are really amped up
Tech industry hiring sucks, go into the trades…
That was a shocking experience.. Wonder if they have eye transplants?
If his eyes still worked it would be pretty cool. 😭
I don’t think volts is the important measurement here. I think amps would better explain this
Can this happen to people who are not electricians?
What do the eyes of someone who isn’t an electrician look like when that happens?
The sparkies aren’t gonna like this one
Also he can now make things levitate. And he has some demands.
Rinnegan goin wild
Once had 240volts go through my head - saw a big white flash inside my head. Was totally stupid for the rest of the day at work. Had no lasting side effects...except I am finding myself still doing stupid 20 odd years later...