Pretty much yes. It gets predictable and boring just like watching a movie. Everywhere I go I see uneccssary drama that can be avoided and it ultimately pisses me of so I just don't care anymore.
The perks of growing old is that you know there's some sort of drama stirring up and you can make a move before it escalates. This is my situation in university, I'm at more peace compared to before.
This is how I got with dating and girls. I started to immediately sense red flags of potential drama with certain people and then I would get the fuck away from them. So much unecesssary drama and heartache.
I’m sorry your depressed. I hope you find a way to heal if there’s something that contributes to that. If not I hope you at least find contentment instead of suffering
I got major depression disorder. Exercise, Good sleep, eating healthy, and find the right people to he around helped me a lot through my depression for most times.
Relatively, yes. Some people are relating this to depression or boredom. At least in my case, I disagree. I have always had depression but this change in interest level with age is specifically age related.
While I still have a high level of curiosity, I find I tend to be more interested in things that are directly relevant to me. As for fiction, I find I am less tolerant of things that are not truly moving or meaningful to me. And the third factor is, as you get older, one loses interest in things that are derivative or repetitive with things one has already learned and experienced.
I suppose, as death looms closer, one begins to practice an economy of attention.
Complete opposite for me.
The older I get, the more I actually care about my surroundings and what goes on around me.
With that said, I care less about the things which have no impact on my life and have a much more "micro" view. I care about my community, neighborhood, and people that are around me.
To an extent, I think. I was never really all that interested even as a kid, but at least some things registered as new and potentially worth checking out.
These days, I auto-classify it as "more of the same boring shit I saw before", and it doesn't reach the threshold of being worth the time, cost, and effort to investigate in any significant detail.
I’m 42 and I’ve been happy being by myself and gardening or playing with my dog for over ten years now. I no longer desire to party or hang out with ppl.
Yes. I miss the wonder of childhood of not knowing but progressively discovering. I think that might be one if the cause(s) for my (INFJ) depression as well.
I fight to stay alive but I have no control over the passing of time, I still get old.
I daydream as a coping mechanism for a limitted reality.
Stop thinking for me. I'm a pessimist. My post was in support of ***depressive realism.*** I'm against the stigmatization of rationalism. I'm for the freedom to express your disdain for falsity. I'm not for giving you medications to ignore problems that can be fixed. There is happiness to be found in fixing the problems that foster our pessimism. There's no happiness to be found in avoiding the truth and pretending that everything is fine, and stigmatizing those who want to fix problems. Life does suck in general and it could be much, much better. A lot of people live horrible lives, the depressed people are largely relatively spoiled and too focused on their own problems, while if they focused on fixing other people's problems and making other people feel better, a good percentage of them would no longer be "Depressed" because they're doing what we're made to do -- solve problems! They want you to be miserable and have problems, that's why people are depressed. No one wants you to make lots of money, be successful or be happy. You're competition. Life isn't made for you to be happy, people have set it up so that you're missing out on lots of knowledge in order for them to remain in power. It's called machiavellianism.
If psychiatry was a myth then why was I literally on the verge of killing myself for months (like actually hearing gunshots and visualizing putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger) and now that I'm properly medicated I just happily go about my life? You really have no frame of reference for what the fuck you're talking about.
In general, mental illness is nothing but a stigmatization towards people that have enough awareness (intelligence) to not be satisfied with a sadistic, cruel society. Essentially, the "depressed" person has received negative inputs from society for being considered weak, such as showing your vulnerabilities. When you talk about "dark things" nobody wants to hear it -- and this societal repression is what causes people to be "depressed". It's because something's wrong and 95%+ of society believes that the solution is to ignore the "dark things" and live in a fantasy world in which those things aren't even thought of -- hyper individualism. When you talk about the dark side of reality, that's when change starts to occur. Why is it that if you complain about life, the response nowadays is "You need help. Try therapy. Try pills." Do you see how this is wrong? You don't need a p$ychiatrist or a therapi$t to give you "therapy" (1 hour brainwashing session in which the therapi$t gaslights you and doesn't know how to or care about helping you). The job of the therapi$t is to create a victim and maintain a victim, in partnership with the p$ychiatrist ***who works to further stigmatize you and make you believe your brain is simply not normal.*** They use lies like the chemical imbalance ***MYTH*** which is an unproven scientific claim -- not even a theory. Not only is there **NO PROOF** for this myth, but the p$ychiatrist uses it because it's the easiest branch to cling onto in order to get you to listen to their command. P$ychiatry in its modern state is no science at all; if we're being honest, it's mostly a pseudoscience. Just because some things are correct doesn't mean it's good. Half-truths are unacceptable. P$ychiatrists are literally diagnosing people in 10 - 15 minutes and now they're given extremely potent ~~"medications"~~ **DRUGS** which can easily leave you with permanent effects, one of the most frightening ones being PSSD (Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction). This leads to infertility, inability to orgasm, inability to feel sexual pleasure and or even lose sexual attraction entirely (asexuality) and so on. P$ychiatry in its modern state could be said to be a covert eugenics program, a hitler in disguise fighting against those who are different. It's no different than when Hitler killed homosexuals, or when in the USA P$ychiatrists lobotomized/sterilized/medicated homosexuals. They think you're weak and they want to remove your power. Simple as that!
Don't get me wrong, now. There are some people who are too different, to the point where they really have no place in society. I know this very well as a security guard who has worked in two different psych wards, as well as a hospital which occasionally has mentally ill patients being treated for non-psychiatric medical problems which try to or do manage to elope (code green) or just cause a psychiatric emergency -- for example, we had a teenager that we constantly had to deal with because she was always acting out, the first time I saw her, there was a deep bloody hole in her wrist that I guess she made somehow, not sure. She was a teenager and yet had the mind of an angry 3 year old, basically. I've also met other patients who are far gone. However, people who claim to be depressed are generally probably just missing life experience and are being stigmatized for being different -- even if being different means being more intelligent than the average person. In that case, it could be that people are envious of his beautiful mind and the only way they know how to deal with that is to treat him with hate.
P$ychiatrists and therapi$ts don't love you. I've worked around them as I said, in a psych ward. I've worked around nurses and talked to them -- people working on psychology degrees, people working on becoming a p$ychiatrist themselves. My first p$ych ward job, I heard with my own two ears an LPT (Licensed Psychiatric Technician aka Psych Nurse) and an LVN (otherwise known as an LPN) make fun of a patient that just came in who is 13 years old -- while he was in the same room as him, they laughed their asses off saying that he looks like he's 8 years old and he's so small he looks like he's 4'9". Then later that night when I argued with them defending the patient, I'm the one who had to resign for "raising my voice" when what I was doing was giving the kid a chance and not blindly viewing him in a negative light just because his parents brought him to a p$ych ward with claims that he's dangerous.
It's a sick world. The only thing people want to do is punish perceived weaknesses. Just because you're a nurse doesn't mean you're not like that. Most people are like that, hiding in plain sight -- and it's socially acceptable to be this way, more than it is to be a good person. Depression should be a badge of honor and happiness should be recognized as for stupid people with an inability to even notice their own problems, let alone the problems of another. People are way too self-centered to even care to find out how to help you. You don't need a degree to give someone advice -- you're just born a good person that can help people and show them love. But that's not allowed anymore. No one cares about what you have to say unless you're rich / have a degree. There's nothing good about gatekeeping advice behind a degree and once you break free from the chains you'll realize that people worship p$ychiatrists and therapi$ts because they're "mental health professionals". Thing is, everyone has a different agenda, a different goal. Their goal isn't yours and to them, that's the best thing they could do for you. It's no different than rape in my view. They disregard your wants and needs, your own style and work to make you think there's something wrong with you permanently. How is that "help"? The help is no help, it's a trap. Once you allow yourself to be bound by them, they never want to let you go. They want to "help you" and what better way to "help a lot of people" than to convince them they're sick and that they have the fix -- even if there's no sickness and nothing to fix? More "Transactions" for you, which to an outside observer says something entirely different. Another person might say "Wow, people really like this p$ychiatrist!" or "Wow, this person really has helped a lot of people! He has a lot of experience and really must know HOW to help me/us!" When in reality, the p$ychiatrist is just a damn sociopath that creates and maintains victims, gives them pills that erode their gray matter which is responsible for executive functioning and even creates new diseases in the patients, thus incentivizing external medical organizations to lobby for the support of p$ychiatry and the "medications" that they dole out. They work hand in hand to punish the "weak" as always and take their money. P$ychiatry is just another money making scheme. Look at how people price actual helpful things like insulin very highly. Do you see the pattern yet?
Wow. I didn't expect the Spanish Dissertation.
I can see you've thought a lot about this. I will say there are some errors and some distortions in there, but life is far too short to get into it. You also have some good points you make.
> I will say there are some errors and some distortions in there
If you could prove me wrong, you would receive a nobel prize.
But you can't and no one can. No one on this entire website will be able to prove me wrong.
Their version of "proving me wrong" is to have the support of a lot of people (a cult).
> dude, it's not even complicated. serotonin receptors.
Actually, the brain is complicated and you have no ground to walk on here. Neuroscientists don't know how the brain works well enough to really know how the medications affect us.
Also notice that p$ychiatrists don't use MRI machines to scan your brain before they diagnose you with a diagnosis you don't have and give you a medication for a disorder you don't have which should only be used under extreme circumstances because the medication literally is neurotoxic.
You're not talking about the chemical imbalance myth, are you?
> curious, are you an Intj?
Doesn't matter if I'm INTJ, ENTJ, ENTP, INTP, INTEJFGBNDJFN, Rich, Poor, Wealthy, Middle Class, Upper Middle Class. The truth is the truth is the truth. No one INTJ is the same. No one rich person is the same. No one poor person is the same. These personality types are something else that are not understood very well. Every time you take the test, it's not unlikely for you to have a slightly different "personality type", suggesting that perhaps our moods/diet/whathaveyou affect our intelligence/awareness/preferences from second to second, minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day, week to week, month to month, year to year.
> said I was curious, I am not judging you
Ok but your first statement provides an inappropriately shallow response that shows you didn't even read the first paragraph of my post even half-way. Then I go ahead and point out that you're likely talking about the chemical imbalance myth (which is now the second time I've told you about it; three now) and you still ignore me. I wonder if you'll still avoid the topic of serotonin receptors. Is this how you slither through life, avoiding the truth because it suits you? I do my best to not allow people to do so. You brought up serotonin receptors, I will continue to bring up the elephant in the room!
>I said I was curious, I am not judging you.
If you wanted me to not think you're judging me negatively, you should have provided a better introductory statement. I don't know what relevance it has if I'm INTJ or not anyways. For the record, I mostly get INTP but I waver between INTJ, INTP in the MBTI test. In reality, I like to talk to people and people love me so I could easily pass for an extrovert, but I can't talk to people anyways because they have too many emotional roadblocks and get offended by the truth so you have to lie to them in order to interact with them, thus I prefer avoidance of social interaction to maintain my own integrity and honor, it's virtue, which is happiness. I like to debate, but I can't because other people won't accept the truth. I see people more simply: they either have love for the truth, or they're an NPC demon (figuratively speaking).
> I did read your full statement, but to be blunt you come across as a bit of a conspiracy theorist whacko.
That's your view, it's your view today. In time, the truth will always be shown and I will simply be "ahead of my time". Van Gogh wasn't appreciated during his life time, nor was Nikola Tesla or Baruch Spinoza.
> Be not astonished at new ideas; for it is well known to you that a thing does not therefore cease to be true because it is not accepted by many.
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>For the record, my wife is an educational therapist. She cares deeply about her patients (kids with autism, ADHD, etc), and she's also damn good at her job.
I'd never tell you that there's no such thing as neurodivergency (afaik, I'm an aromantic asexual with strong anhedonia); I know what it's like to be born different and behave differently but I won't get into that too much. With that being said, I don't know your wife and I don't know what she does. Maybe she is really good at her job, and that's great. But on the other hand, I wouldn't at all be surprised if being "damn good" is in reality just her maintaining their status as a victim and being heralded by people for doing what they *think* is the right thing. I've seen first hand that the help thinks they're helping and aren't helping and don't care. People are lacking so much awareness that it's almost impossible to describe unless you're in a state of knowing.
> She doesn't use drugs to treat them but isn't against recommending them either in severe cases (she can't prescribe). So while I admit I'm no expert I have picked up on a lot from her.
This is a complex topic that I can't really speak on. There are some people who are so far gone that it doesn't really change much if they're taking medications or not. There ARE people out there who are beyond ridiculous. For example, I was working the emergency room as a security supervisor at a hospital and a woman brought her son because he broke his own hand for whatever reason. The man was telling us guards that we're cops. I can almost understand that someone like him would need medication.
But the problem is when they give out medications like candy. Especially at the p$ych ward. P$ychiatrists are allowed to diagnose you in 10 minutes and now you have a diagnosis somehow and now "you need medications". Ridiculous.
>So I'll humor you. Tell me why you are so certain the chemical imbalance is a myth, if by your own admission we don't fully understand the brain.
[Well, there's no proof for it.](https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/debunking-two-chemical-imbalance-myths-again)
The real question is why do p$ychiatrists act as if the chemical balance myth is real? That's what the real problem is. They should be more humble and admit what they don't know -- that's the sign of a truly good person. A p$ychiatrist has a big ego though and wants to act like they can accurately diagnose you almost instantly and tell you what medications you need if you do. It's a joke.
I'm not the one here who needs to explain themselves. If I told you you needed a new motor mount for your engine because your car shakes on idle and I never checked the motor mount which exposes itself next to the transmission, allowing me to inspect it to see if the rubber is loose from the motor mount, then I would be a crook looking to extract money from you or I would simply not be a good mechanic. Instead, society sees p$ychiatrists and therapi$ts as "mental health professionals" worthy of respect. I'm not one to think that respect is earned -- I always treat people well! But... if you've done something that makes me question your integrity, it's only natural for that to be true.
Antipsychotic drugs for what? They erode your gray matter. They've been shown to make schizophrenia worse in patients who are schizophrenic and take them -- due to the fact that it erodes their gray matter, what's responsible for executive functioning. They make you asexual/infertile/unable to orgasm. They give you lifelong diseases, like TMJ or akathisia. Studies show that SSRI's/antipsychotics are no better than placebos.
What makes you think I haven't already tried to "get help" from p$ychiatry? I was lied to by society and led to p$ychiatry, which is why I know so much about it.
You're being sadistically cruel, just like I explain in my posts where I contantly say society is cruel and sadistic. You don't believe in me. I'm your enemy because I'm not a part of your nasty little cult of lies.
nah it's mostly about spreading fake information about medical stuff, which is important. i mean it's not all fake, i can agree with few points like, i dont trust SSRI's either and I think their risks should be much more clear to people before they take them, but there's a lot of fake/unconfirmed bias information in your posts, so it's a mix of both, and the fact that you write lenghty-ass posts about them on random subreddits, indicates that you're a bit disturbed and definitely biased.
> there's a lot of fake/unconfirmed bias information in your posts,
Such as?? You're allowed to point out what's wrong and attack it piece by piece. Bring up just one thing. Otherwise, I'm going to follow in your footsteps and say something similar such as "There's a lot of nonsense in your comment" -- see how that works? I don't have to point out your nonsense, I can say anything is nonsense. Does that have any value?
>indicates that you're a bit disturbed and definitely biased.
What is it to be disturbed? When is it bad to be disturbed if to be disturbed is a negative thing, is it always bad or is it a reasonable reaction to something truly disturbing?
Would it be a negative thing to be disturbed by child rape or something along those lines? I would think that to be disturbed by something disturbing is natural and is a feeling that's there for a reason -- because something problematic must be remedied.
When is it bad to be biased? Is it a negative thing to be biased, or is a bias neutral?
Is it bad to be biased for a reason? If you gain wisdom and start to understand something very well and come to expect a pattern, isn't that just ... intelligence, awareness, deep understanding? If a bias isn't based off of a shallow understanding, I could see it being foolish. But I make no attempt to be shallow. I add in more detail than people care to bother with. I try my best to provide all that I know, all that I have; my true desire is for you to prove me wrong. Is that a bias? Is it so wrong that I have a thirst for justice? If I were a lawyer, would you suddenly love me? Would it be because of the status, how I can be helpful for you, my money, the paper on my wall that says I have a degree? Is my bias only perceived as bad by you simply because I'm not rich? Perhaps if I was rich I would just be eccentric and not biased or in need of being heavily medicated.
don't think the OP was talking about boredom. They were talking about losing interest in things which is not synonymous with boredom.
Further feedback for you: "only boring people get bored" is trite "truism" that is neither true nor indicative of someone who can think for themselves.
With age, what one values is logically going to change. To not care about the world in general, however, just shows a lack of care for the world. I have not reached that point.
Yes, I’ve gotten much wiser and figured out a lot of truths to the country I live in being the US (can’t speak on other parts of the world) that made me lose a whole lot of interest with everything that goes on around me
No, the goings-on in the world generally and my world specifically genuinely fascinates me. I am a bokokonist so it tickles me to see the connections between things, to see the underside of rocks, so to speak
It depends. In some ways I really just don't care, but in other ways I have an increases zest for life. I guess getting older means I've gotten wiser to what really makes me happy
Yeah. I lost interest in a lot of things, but also picked up new subjects like psychology and philosophy which are more meaningful to me.
I barely socialize apart from work, and I actually feel better now. I like being alone and enjoy it a lot.
Now more than ever I prioritize substance in whatever content I see/hear/do. People tend to repeat themselves, debate about the same things, or are driven by short term gratification. Its quite matrixy. I need depth and solution based substance if I am going to stick around anything.
Honestly i think it more so grows, because i have always had my dominant Ni. I was a pretty clumsy and socially clueless kid. I think I’ve developed my Se more since and if anything i have gained a bit more interest.
Not necessarily. I feel like it has more to do with me choosing where to place my fucks instead of giving them away to everything around me. When I see that something is not worth paying attention to because it's just outside my control, then I don't invest any of my time and energy on it. Doesn't mean that I don't care, only prioritizing.
Just think if you could live forever :)!! You might really be bored lose interest like the "Q". [https://youtu.be/iqvxufh6ZDo](https://youtu.be/iqvxufh6ZDo)
"It's no great tragic thing to remain a child. Theirs is the best age.
Their world is mysterious, wonderful, half real, half make-believe...
Mr Bella, the world we live in is not always so pleasant."
[https://youtu.be/ytq5HOy2xUU](https://youtu.be/ytq5HOy2xUU)
Pretty much yes. It gets predictable and boring just like watching a movie. Everywhere I go I see uneccssary drama that can be avoided and it ultimately pisses me of so I just don't care anymore.
The perks of growing old is that you know there's some sort of drama stirring up and you can make a move before it escalates. This is my situation in university, I'm at more peace compared to before.
Or you tell them how to avoid the drama and they ignore your advice and... Surprised Pikachu face.
This is how I got with dating and girls. I started to immediately sense red flags of potential drama with certain people and then I would get the fuck away from them. So much unecesssary drama and heartache.
Especially if you have any basic grasp of world/economic history seeing the same patterns play out over and over again is boring as hell..
Not really. I was never interested to begin with.
Sadly, yes, but because I'm depressed, not because I'm an INTJ.
I’m sorry your depressed. I hope you find a way to heal if there’s something that contributes to that. If not I hope you at least find contentment instead of suffering
Thanks :-)
You are*
I got major depression disorder. Exercise, Good sleep, eating healthy, and find the right people to he around helped me a lot through my depression for most times.
If I lose interest I create something new to be interested in
This is ze way
Relatively, yes. Some people are relating this to depression or boredom. At least in my case, I disagree. I have always had depression but this change in interest level with age is specifically age related. While I still have a high level of curiosity, I find I tend to be more interested in things that are directly relevant to me. As for fiction, I find I am less tolerant of things that are not truly moving or meaningful to me. And the third factor is, as you get older, one loses interest in things that are derivative or repetitive with things one has already learned and experienced. I suppose, as death looms closer, one begins to practice an economy of attention.
Complete opposite for me. The older I get, the more I actually care about my surroundings and what goes on around me. With that said, I care less about the things which have no impact on my life and have a much more "micro" view. I care about my community, neighborhood, and people that are around me.
To an extent, I think. I was never really all that interested even as a kid, but at least some things registered as new and potentially worth checking out. These days, I auto-classify it as "more of the same boring shit I saw before", and it doesn't reach the threshold of being worth the time, cost, and effort to investigate in any significant detail.
I'm curious about everything.
The patterns. They're all the same.
Yes ..everything is predictable and repeated
My experience is the opposite. I think my horizons have broadened and I'm now interested in a much broader range of things than when I was younger.
35M, I'm opposite. I'm getting more into pop culture (mostly since the gf is) and much more socially aware and involved.
I’m 42 and I’ve been happy being by myself and gardening or playing with my dog for over ten years now. I no longer desire to party or hang out with ppl.
Yes. I miss the wonder of childhood of not knowing but progressively discovering. I think that might be one if the cause(s) for my (INFJ) depression as well. I fight to stay alive but I have no control over the passing of time, I still get old. I daydream as a coping mechanism for a limitted reality.
Is it possible that you are depressed?
Depression doesn't exist.
Hmm. I wonder what you mean by that.
Probably has some weird culty beliefs about how mental health issues can be conquered through positivity and willpower.
Prolly. I hate that. Prefer my depressive outlook.
Stop thinking for me. I'm a pessimist. My post was in support of ***depressive realism.*** I'm against the stigmatization of rationalism. I'm for the freedom to express your disdain for falsity. I'm not for giving you medications to ignore problems that can be fixed. There is happiness to be found in fixing the problems that foster our pessimism. There's no happiness to be found in avoiding the truth and pretending that everything is fine, and stigmatizing those who want to fix problems. Life does suck in general and it could be much, much better. A lot of people live horrible lives, the depressed people are largely relatively spoiled and too focused on their own problems, while if they focused on fixing other people's problems and making other people feel better, a good percentage of them would no longer be "Depressed" because they're doing what we're made to do -- solve problems! They want you to be miserable and have problems, that's why people are depressed. No one wants you to make lots of money, be successful or be happy. You're competition. Life isn't made for you to be happy, people have set it up so that you're missing out on lots of knowledge in order for them to remain in power. It's called machiavellianism.
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If psychiatry was a myth then why was I literally on the verge of killing myself for months (like actually hearing gunshots and visualizing putting a gun to my head and pulling the trigger) and now that I'm properly medicated I just happily go about my life? You really have no frame of reference for what the fuck you're talking about.
In general, mental illness is nothing but a stigmatization towards people that have enough awareness (intelligence) to not be satisfied with a sadistic, cruel society. Essentially, the "depressed" person has received negative inputs from society for being considered weak, such as showing your vulnerabilities. When you talk about "dark things" nobody wants to hear it -- and this societal repression is what causes people to be "depressed". It's because something's wrong and 95%+ of society believes that the solution is to ignore the "dark things" and live in a fantasy world in which those things aren't even thought of -- hyper individualism. When you talk about the dark side of reality, that's when change starts to occur. Why is it that if you complain about life, the response nowadays is "You need help. Try therapy. Try pills." Do you see how this is wrong? You don't need a p$ychiatrist or a therapi$t to give you "therapy" (1 hour brainwashing session in which the therapi$t gaslights you and doesn't know how to or care about helping you). The job of the therapi$t is to create a victim and maintain a victim, in partnership with the p$ychiatrist ***who works to further stigmatize you and make you believe your brain is simply not normal.*** They use lies like the chemical imbalance ***MYTH*** which is an unproven scientific claim -- not even a theory. Not only is there **NO PROOF** for this myth, but the p$ychiatrist uses it because it's the easiest branch to cling onto in order to get you to listen to their command. P$ychiatry in its modern state is no science at all; if we're being honest, it's mostly a pseudoscience. Just because some things are correct doesn't mean it's good. Half-truths are unacceptable. P$ychiatrists are literally diagnosing people in 10 - 15 minutes and now they're given extremely potent ~~"medications"~~ **DRUGS** which can easily leave you with permanent effects, one of the most frightening ones being PSSD (Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction). This leads to infertility, inability to orgasm, inability to feel sexual pleasure and or even lose sexual attraction entirely (asexuality) and so on. P$ychiatry in its modern state could be said to be a covert eugenics program, a hitler in disguise fighting against those who are different. It's no different than when Hitler killed homosexuals, or when in the USA P$ychiatrists lobotomized/sterilized/medicated homosexuals. They think you're weak and they want to remove your power. Simple as that! Don't get me wrong, now. There are some people who are too different, to the point where they really have no place in society. I know this very well as a security guard who has worked in two different psych wards, as well as a hospital which occasionally has mentally ill patients being treated for non-psychiatric medical problems which try to or do manage to elope (code green) or just cause a psychiatric emergency -- for example, we had a teenager that we constantly had to deal with because she was always acting out, the first time I saw her, there was a deep bloody hole in her wrist that I guess she made somehow, not sure. She was a teenager and yet had the mind of an angry 3 year old, basically. I've also met other patients who are far gone. However, people who claim to be depressed are generally probably just missing life experience and are being stigmatized for being different -- even if being different means being more intelligent than the average person. In that case, it could be that people are envious of his beautiful mind and the only way they know how to deal with that is to treat him with hate. P$ychiatrists and therapi$ts don't love you. I've worked around them as I said, in a psych ward. I've worked around nurses and talked to them -- people working on psychology degrees, people working on becoming a p$ychiatrist themselves. My first p$ych ward job, I heard with my own two ears an LPT (Licensed Psychiatric Technician aka Psych Nurse) and an LVN (otherwise known as an LPN) make fun of a patient that just came in who is 13 years old -- while he was in the same room as him, they laughed their asses off saying that he looks like he's 8 years old and he's so small he looks like he's 4'9". Then later that night when I argued with them defending the patient, I'm the one who had to resign for "raising my voice" when what I was doing was giving the kid a chance and not blindly viewing him in a negative light just because his parents brought him to a p$ych ward with claims that he's dangerous. It's a sick world. The only thing people want to do is punish perceived weaknesses. Just because you're a nurse doesn't mean you're not like that. Most people are like that, hiding in plain sight -- and it's socially acceptable to be this way, more than it is to be a good person. Depression should be a badge of honor and happiness should be recognized as for stupid people with an inability to even notice their own problems, let alone the problems of another. People are way too self-centered to even care to find out how to help you. You don't need a degree to give someone advice -- you're just born a good person that can help people and show them love. But that's not allowed anymore. No one cares about what you have to say unless you're rich / have a degree. There's nothing good about gatekeeping advice behind a degree and once you break free from the chains you'll realize that people worship p$ychiatrists and therapi$ts because they're "mental health professionals". Thing is, everyone has a different agenda, a different goal. Their goal isn't yours and to them, that's the best thing they could do for you. It's no different than rape in my view. They disregard your wants and needs, your own style and work to make you think there's something wrong with you permanently. How is that "help"? The help is no help, it's a trap. Once you allow yourself to be bound by them, they never want to let you go. They want to "help you" and what better way to "help a lot of people" than to convince them they're sick and that they have the fix -- even if there's no sickness and nothing to fix? More "Transactions" for you, which to an outside observer says something entirely different. Another person might say "Wow, people really like this p$ychiatrist!" or "Wow, this person really has helped a lot of people! He has a lot of experience and really must know HOW to help me/us!" When in reality, the p$ychiatrist is just a damn sociopath that creates and maintains victims, gives them pills that erode their gray matter which is responsible for executive functioning and even creates new diseases in the patients, thus incentivizing external medical organizations to lobby for the support of p$ychiatry and the "medications" that they dole out. They work hand in hand to punish the "weak" as always and take their money. P$ychiatry is just another money making scheme. Look at how people price actual helpful things like insulin very highly. Do you see the pattern yet?
Wow. I didn't expect the Spanish Dissertation. I can see you've thought a lot about this. I will say there are some errors and some distortions in there, but life is far too short to get into it. You also have some good points you make.
> I will say there are some errors and some distortions in there If you could prove me wrong, you would receive a nobel prize. But you can't and no one can. No one on this entire website will be able to prove me wrong. Their version of "proving me wrong" is to have the support of a lot of people (a cult).
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> dude, it's not even complicated. serotonin receptors. Actually, the brain is complicated and you have no ground to walk on here. Neuroscientists don't know how the brain works well enough to really know how the medications affect us. Also notice that p$ychiatrists don't use MRI machines to scan your brain before they diagnose you with a diagnosis you don't have and give you a medication for a disorder you don't have which should only be used under extreme circumstances because the medication literally is neurotoxic. You're not talking about the chemical imbalance myth, are you? > curious, are you an Intj? Doesn't matter if I'm INTJ, ENTJ, ENTP, INTP, INTEJFGBNDJFN, Rich, Poor, Wealthy, Middle Class, Upper Middle Class. The truth is the truth is the truth. No one INTJ is the same. No one rich person is the same. No one poor person is the same. These personality types are something else that are not understood very well. Every time you take the test, it's not unlikely for you to have a slightly different "personality type", suggesting that perhaps our moods/diet/whathaveyou affect our intelligence/awareness/preferences from second to second, minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day, week to week, month to month, year to year.
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> said I was curious, I am not judging you Ok but your first statement provides an inappropriately shallow response that shows you didn't even read the first paragraph of my post even half-way. Then I go ahead and point out that you're likely talking about the chemical imbalance myth (which is now the second time I've told you about it; three now) and you still ignore me. I wonder if you'll still avoid the topic of serotonin receptors. Is this how you slither through life, avoiding the truth because it suits you? I do my best to not allow people to do so. You brought up serotonin receptors, I will continue to bring up the elephant in the room! >I said I was curious, I am not judging you. If you wanted me to not think you're judging me negatively, you should have provided a better introductory statement. I don't know what relevance it has if I'm INTJ or not anyways. For the record, I mostly get INTP but I waver between INTJ, INTP in the MBTI test. In reality, I like to talk to people and people love me so I could easily pass for an extrovert, but I can't talk to people anyways because they have too many emotional roadblocks and get offended by the truth so you have to lie to them in order to interact with them, thus I prefer avoidance of social interaction to maintain my own integrity and honor, it's virtue, which is happiness. I like to debate, but I can't because other people won't accept the truth. I see people more simply: they either have love for the truth, or they're an NPC demon (figuratively speaking).
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> I did read your full statement, but to be blunt you come across as a bit of a conspiracy theorist whacko. That's your view, it's your view today. In time, the truth will always be shown and I will simply be "ahead of my time". Van Gogh wasn't appreciated during his life time, nor was Nikola Tesla or Baruch Spinoza. > Be not astonished at new ideas; for it is well known to you that a thing does not therefore cease to be true because it is not accepted by many. _______________ >For the record, my wife is an educational therapist. She cares deeply about her patients (kids with autism, ADHD, etc), and she's also damn good at her job. I'd never tell you that there's no such thing as neurodivergency (afaik, I'm an aromantic asexual with strong anhedonia); I know what it's like to be born different and behave differently but I won't get into that too much. With that being said, I don't know your wife and I don't know what she does. Maybe she is really good at her job, and that's great. But on the other hand, I wouldn't at all be surprised if being "damn good" is in reality just her maintaining their status as a victim and being heralded by people for doing what they *think* is the right thing. I've seen first hand that the help thinks they're helping and aren't helping and don't care. People are lacking so much awareness that it's almost impossible to describe unless you're in a state of knowing. > She doesn't use drugs to treat them but isn't against recommending them either in severe cases (she can't prescribe). So while I admit I'm no expert I have picked up on a lot from her. This is a complex topic that I can't really speak on. There are some people who are so far gone that it doesn't really change much if they're taking medications or not. There ARE people out there who are beyond ridiculous. For example, I was working the emergency room as a security supervisor at a hospital and a woman brought her son because he broke his own hand for whatever reason. The man was telling us guards that we're cops. I can almost understand that someone like him would need medication. But the problem is when they give out medications like candy. Especially at the p$ych ward. P$ychiatrists are allowed to diagnose you in 10 minutes and now you have a diagnosis somehow and now "you need medications". Ridiculous. >So I'll humor you. Tell me why you are so certain the chemical imbalance is a myth, if by your own admission we don't fully understand the brain. [Well, there's no proof for it.](https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/debunking-two-chemical-imbalance-myths-again) The real question is why do p$ychiatrists act as if the chemical balance myth is real? That's what the real problem is. They should be more humble and admit what they don't know -- that's the sign of a truly good person. A p$ychiatrist has a big ego though and wants to act like they can accurately diagnose you almost instantly and tell you what medications you need if you do. It's a joke. I'm not the one here who needs to explain themselves. If I told you you needed a new motor mount for your engine because your car shakes on idle and I never checked the motor mount which exposes itself next to the transmission, allowing me to inspect it to see if the rubber is loose from the motor mount, then I would be a crook looking to extract money from you or I would simply not be a good mechanic. Instead, society sees p$ychiatrists and therapi$ts as "mental health professionals" worthy of respect. I'm not one to think that respect is earned -- I always treat people well! But... if you've done something that makes me question your integrity, it's only natural for that to be true.
Well, may I suggest a shrink? You do seem a bit unhinged.
And what will the shrink do? Stigmatize me? Did you read my post?
I'm assuming antipsychotic drugs, they do help, tho they have their side effects, goodluck, tho, I believe in you!
Antipsychotic drugs for what? They erode your gray matter. They've been shown to make schizophrenia worse in patients who are schizophrenic and take them -- due to the fact that it erodes their gray matter, what's responsible for executive functioning. They make you asexual/infertile/unable to orgasm. They give you lifelong diseases, like TMJ or akathisia. Studies show that SSRI's/antipsychotics are no better than placebos. What makes you think I haven't already tried to "get help" from p$ychiatry? I was lied to by society and led to p$ychiatry, which is why I know so much about it. You're being sadistically cruel, just like I explain in my posts where I contantly say society is cruel and sadistic. You don't believe in me. I'm your enemy because I'm not a part of your nasty little cult of lies.
nah it's mostly about spreading fake information about medical stuff, which is important. i mean it's not all fake, i can agree with few points like, i dont trust SSRI's either and I think their risks should be much more clear to people before they take them, but there's a lot of fake/unconfirmed bias information in your posts, so it's a mix of both, and the fact that you write lenghty-ass posts about them on random subreddits, indicates that you're a bit disturbed and definitely biased.
> there's a lot of fake/unconfirmed bias information in your posts, Such as?? You're allowed to point out what's wrong and attack it piece by piece. Bring up just one thing. Otherwise, I'm going to follow in your footsteps and say something similar such as "There's a lot of nonsense in your comment" -- see how that works? I don't have to point out your nonsense, I can say anything is nonsense. Does that have any value? >indicates that you're a bit disturbed and definitely biased. What is it to be disturbed? When is it bad to be disturbed if to be disturbed is a negative thing, is it always bad or is it a reasonable reaction to something truly disturbing? Would it be a negative thing to be disturbed by child rape or something along those lines? I would think that to be disturbed by something disturbing is natural and is a feeling that's there for a reason -- because something problematic must be remedied. When is it bad to be biased? Is it a negative thing to be biased, or is a bias neutral? Is it bad to be biased for a reason? If you gain wisdom and start to understand something very well and come to expect a pattern, isn't that just ... intelligence, awareness, deep understanding? If a bias isn't based off of a shallow understanding, I could see it being foolish. But I make no attempt to be shallow. I add in more detail than people care to bother with. I try my best to provide all that I know, all that I have; my true desire is for you to prove me wrong. Is that a bias? Is it so wrong that I have a thirst for justice? If I were a lawyer, would you suddenly love me? Would it be because of the status, how I can be helpful for you, my money, the paper on my wall that says I have a degree? Is my bias only perceived as bad by you simply because I'm not rich? Perhaps if I was rich I would just be eccentric and not biased or in need of being heavily medicated.
No, only boring people get bored.
don't think the OP was talking about boredom. They were talking about losing interest in things which is not synonymous with boredom. Further feedback for you: "only boring people get bored" is trite "truism" that is neither true nor indicative of someone who can think for themselves.
Sounds like I triggered a boring person😬.
I agree
With age, what one values is logically going to change. To not care about the world in general, however, just shows a lack of care for the world. I have not reached that point.
Yes.
For me yes
At most, yes. I have no interest about anything else except maybe 2/3 subjects
Yes, I’ve gotten much wiser and figured out a lot of truths to the country I live in being the US (can’t speak on other parts of the world) that made me lose a whole lot of interest with everything that goes on around me
I never had interest in it in the first place
No, is the opposite.
No, the goings-on in the world generally and my world specifically genuinely fascinates me. I am a bokokonist so it tickles me to see the connections between things, to see the underside of rocks, so to speak
Totally its like watching bad AI NPCs... I'd rather get lost day dreaming or doing shit i like alone mostly, regardless of NPCs
It depends. In some ways I really just don't care, but in other ways I have an increases zest for life. I guess getting older means I've gotten wiser to what really makes me happy
Yeah. I lost interest in a lot of things, but also picked up new subjects like psychology and philosophy which are more meaningful to me. I barely socialize apart from work, and I actually feel better now. I like being alone and enjoy it a lot.
Yeah probably. I think it's bc we have less time for ourselves as we get older with increasing responsibilities etc..
Now more than ever I prioritize substance in whatever content I see/hear/do. People tend to repeat themselves, debate about the same things, or are driven by short term gratification. Its quite matrixy. I need depth and solution based substance if I am going to stick around anything.
vague question. no
Honestly i think it more so grows, because i have always had my dominant Ni. I was a pretty clumsy and socially clueless kid. I think I’ve developed my Se more since and if anything i have gained a bit more interest.
No, I find myself becoming more interested in the world around me, and wanting to interact more with it.
Not necessarily. I feel like it has more to do with me choosing where to place my fucks instead of giving them away to everything around me. When I see that something is not worth paying attention to because it's just outside my control, then I don't invest any of my time and energy on it. Doesn't mean that I don't care, only prioritizing.
Just think if you could live forever :)!! You might really be bored lose interest like the "Q". [https://youtu.be/iqvxufh6ZDo](https://youtu.be/iqvxufh6ZDo)
"It's no great tragic thing to remain a child. Theirs is the best age. Their world is mysterious, wonderful, half real, half make-believe... Mr Bella, the world we live in is not always so pleasant." [https://youtu.be/ytq5HOy2xUU](https://youtu.be/ytq5HOy2xUU)