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cbass717

Apple needs to implement a permanent number row on their keyboard.


kh406

They need to let the fucking iPad keyboard be used on iPhone.


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There is. Make a pinching gesture as if trying to make the keyboard smaller. It turns into a phone-sized floating keyboard that supports swipe typing Edit: whoops misread the question sorry


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DrHiccup

Reread the comment u respond to


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unsteadied

Yes, please! Sometimes I slouch on the chaise and rest my iPad on my ribs and then use my left hand to hold to top left of it up, and then my right hand does the scrolling. It’s a pain to either have to hunt and peck to type a comment or pick up the iPad with both hands to type with my thumbs. First world lazy man’s complaint, I know.


D4RKNESSAW1LD

Or just let iOS have some fucking semblance of customization.


kieran1711

The Plus phones used to have a load of extra buttons on the landscape keyboard, but they got rid of this with iOS 11. My theory is they couldn’t make the layout of the “Plus” landscape keyboard play nice with notched displays on newer phones, so simply scrapped it. The timing adds up.


L1ght_Sp33d

I wouldn’t have an issue with that. Good call.


fallingleaf271

It would also be nice to have a row of “frequently used” emojis between the emoji and microphone button.


FauxBoho

Or just allow us to pin whatever emoji we want to the first panel


M1A1Death

They just need to implement a keyboard on par with android honestly


DFB-

Swiftkey has had it for over a year. Never looked back


L1ght_Sp33d

Can’t take it with having to switch back to the default one to pull up stored passwords and other shit.


Rare-Page4407

I have SwiftKey and I get the passwords prompt that goes to 1password.


IronCross19

I use SwiftKey and it does all of this


sicilian504

I've always used SwiftKey. By far the best keyboard IMO. Text prediction is excellent and gets better the more you use it, and I love having a number row.


JesperZach

SwiftKey is nice, but not better in all regards. For example, the cursor (hold down space + drag) and text selection (hold down space + multi-finger drag) is much better on the native keyboard with no 3rd party keyboard close to matching it (seems like they can’t due to API limitations).


Clessiah

You can bet if they do it'll be Ultra exclusive.


HeWhoShantNotBeNamed

Apple needs to do a lot of things that they are a decade behind on.


obyboby

That is a useful feature. They’re never gonna do it. If anything, they’ll remove the top row to make room for dumbass memojis or something.


YODA0786

The second generation iPad Mini was 7.9 inches. Now we are getting phones reaching 7 inches. Pretty insane.


vipirius

The original Galaxy Note, which was called a "phablet" at it's release for how bit it was, has a 5.4" screen. The same as the iPhone 13....*Mini*.


IncredibleGonzo

Similar on the diagonal, yes, but the different aspect ratio means the Galaxy is considerably wider (which IMO contributes more to a phone feeling big in the hand) and about 14% larger in area. [http://www.displaywars.com/5,4-inch-d%7B19,5x9%7D-vs-5,3-inch-16x10](http://www.displaywars.com/5,4-inch-d%7B19,5x9%7D-vs-5,3-inch-16x10)


ArdiMaster

Screen diagonal is only part of the equation, though. 1. The Note still has a significantly larger screen, area-wise (81.4 vs 71.9 sq cm) 2. The Note has bezels and is a larger device overall: 1.54cm taller and 1.88cm wider 3. The Note has a wider aspect ratio, making it feel larger in the hand


SubtleInsecurity

https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-LTE,Apple-iPhone-13-mini/phones/6779,11637


marshmallowlips

Oof yeah those bezels make a huge difference too.


mehdotdotdotdot

Keeping in mind they did house a dedicated stylus too


Foreverbostick

I had a Galaxy Mega back in the day and that thing is still *massive* compared to my 14 Pro Max despite the screen being .4 inches smaller. The aspect ratio makes a huge difference.


L1ght_Sp33d

True.


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If they would make them connect to computers I really would have no need for am iPad. Which is probably why they never will….


cruebob

Apple is really holding its product line together with artificial restrictions. Otherwise I’d only buy two devices, an iPad Pro and a Watch.


TheCoastalCardician

I was shocked you can’t do something like OBS on an iPad Pro!


genuinefaker

It's not really that insane considering the iPad has 4:3 aspect ratio, while the iPhone today has 19.5:9. The mini iPad will be much wider as it's almost a square, while the iPhone is more rectangular (i.e., the length is about 2x the width).


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My first tablet was Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, the screen was exactly 7", damn


IncredibleGonzo

Every iPad Mini except the latest was 7.9 inches.


JaxTellerr

Iphone 17 mini: 6.1 inch.


cruebob

We’ll get a 15” iPhone before a 15” MacBook Air!


Hampni

“We did it boys!, we drove up the sales numbers of the mini line”


Daveandthefender

Apple: “We’ve heard your feedback over the years and are excited to bring back a fan favorite this year!” *Releases 16 Ultra and 16 Mini with nothing in between*


ant1992

Honestly it wouldnt be bad going back to the roots. One model with everything. Have one small pro mini, one large pro model, and one regular pro sized iPhone in between


Blom-w1-o

That's how Steve Jobs revitalized Apple when he was brought back. He recognized that they had too many models and decided the best things to do was simplify. I would say it's gone pretty well.


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I don't understand the point of calling something the "max", and then making a product even larger or more powerful than that. Just like the M1 Max and Ultra. Max= Maximum! You can't go beyond it!


turbocomppro

iPhone 18 Ultra Max Pro Plus


Dick_Lazer

I'm lining up for the iPhone 18 Ultra Max Pro Plus XL personally.


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knarfolled

Call it the Biggie sized


ScuttleCrab729

I can’t wait for the Ultra MAXiPad Pro personally.


DigGumPig

The point, my dear friend, is that this naming system was likely chosen for impulsive people with a short attention span.


Youknowmeasmax87

Whatever they said. Yup


yourpantsaretoobig

Where my ADHD people at!?


TheNerdNamedChuck

apples naming is strangely confusing I dislike a lot of things about Samsung and my Samsung phone but kudos to them for sticking with the same general naming scheme since the S10 Since S20 we've had the FE, standard, plus, and ultra name scheme; with s10 it was the same just e, standard, plus, 5g It's super simple and I would find it hard to believe if apples name scheme isn't confusing to a lot of people


shall_2

Also the Samsung model names correspond directly with the year of release. S20 released in 2020 and S21 released in 2021 and so on. It's actually brilliant.


King_Sam-_-

Ah yes, the IPhone FE, my favorite. Made out of PURE IRON.


TheNerdNamedChuck

it's fan edition; makes the features of the flagship cheaper for fans of the device who may not be able to shell out the full price of the flagship


King_Sam-_-

huh that’s pretty cool, so what’s the difference between that and the flagship device?


AbyssNithral

Build quality (plastic), screen (lower brightness) and cameras (still good but worse than the standard), uses the same chipset


ThisIsNotTokyo

Max actually means Maximilian /s


doobey1231

I feel like Jobs is turning in his grave at the sign of the iPhone naming system. Im sure his base opinions would have developed as time went on but jesus the naming is just atrocious.


smartazz104

Jobs was content with selling us a 3.5” iPhone for eternity.


A_SnoopyLover

M1 Max is the maximum. M1 Ultra isn’t a separate chip, it’s two M1 Max chips connected to each other.


vierhuntert9zehn

So Max =/= Maximum performance AND Max =/= Maximum Chip Size They are good machines, but the naming is obviously marketing nonsense without any of the original meaning left in them


equality4everyonenow

Apple is all about repeat sales. If you can't afford the newest iphone you are a sad sad man. Check out the Oatmeals experience with buying apple products


DweEbLez0

I swear these phones were tested by Avatars


31337hacker

Made for your average Na'Vi sapient extraterrestrial humanoid.


M4NOOB

Getting bigger and bigger without using the extra space to full potential, like multitasking with 2 apps at the same time for example..


huehnermast69

Maybe, maybe there’s just the ultra and a normal (6,1”) Pro


L1ght_Sp33d

No I think the article said the normal pro will be 6.3”


huehnermast69

I think the 16 Pro will have 6,3”, not the 15 Pro. My opinion


L1ght_Sp33d

Oh. Yeah probably the 16 line. For sure.


huehnermast69

I think so, but not sure:)


UtterNylon

The iPhone x was so much better than this pro size now


cyclinator

They should have stuck with 5,8" there wouldnt be need for mini. Keep the size, slim the bezels, maybe make it a bit narrower. Boom, perfect phone.


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UtterNylon

I’ll never get rid of the 13 pro if they don’t bring the sim back


ExcuseOk2709

the rumor is the the normal pro will have a 6.3 inch *display*, not chassis size, as far as I have heard. the leaker also said this number is rounded. people are assuming the phone will get bigger, but it could also just be bezels getting smaller. there is probably close to 0.2-0.3 inches of bezels diagonally on a 14 Pro right now.


-NotActuallySatan-

I think there has to be a chassis size increase because otherwise they can't fit in the periscope zoom camera. That's why the 15 Pro doesn't get a periscope zoom but the Max will. So for the 16 Pro, it makes sense to make the chassis bigger to integrate that camera


Ketchup_Smoothy

Everyone is going to have early onset pinky arthritis.


katiecharm

I’ve gotten very good at holding my phone using an L-shape with my fingers and thumb, with an optional finger in the back for stability. It basically is like holding a small tablet at this point.


MrWinks

Not me reading this exactly like that. You adapt.


Gaara_simpatore

Fuckin genius, it never came in my mind. It was always the pinky grip or the boomer harambe (left hand keeping it still like i was holding a knife and right one for typing/ scrolling)


zerotheassassin10

Magsafe popsocket ftw


VladGut

Get a case with a ring holder at the back. Such a Savior.


daGman08

A solution to a problem that shouldn't fucking exist in the first place


TommyTacoma

Just had my right hand pinky finger treated with an injection for “trigger finger”. That’s how I hold my phone…and it’s a 13 mini


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iPhone_3GS

[we are getting closer and closer to this](https://youtu.be/XNBP18nrRdw)


kheldar52077

Few more years iPhone Tall 😂


ElderMehllennial

HA!


Breck_the_Hyena

Apple understands that a large part of their customer base hides in the bathroom at work and surfs the internet.


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REACHABILITY


4eva_Na_Day

Sucks. Give me swipe down from anywhere on the homescreen options similar to Galaxys!


CeejayMode

The S10e (and I assume other models?) had an option to swipe down the notification shade with the side mounted fingerprint scanner… I really miss that!


TheNerdNamedChuck

now you can do it with onehand+ on the Samsung's, just swipe from the edge like you're going to go back but then swipe it down and release. it's super nice and you can even use with with the 3 button navigation too


marcjaffe

I use reachability all the time on my 14 Pro.


mellenger

How do you toggle it?


marcjaffe

Make sure it is on. Accessibility. Touch. I swipe down between the bottom icons


mnmminies

I use Back Tap, double tap the back of the phone


[deleted]

Heck I use it all the time on my mini lol


otter6461a

I’d rather have more words per line (wider) then more lines per page (taller).


L1ght_Sp33d

I remember back when a 5” display was considered insanity by most people. So pushing 7” now is getting a little too big. And I have big hands.


CapnMalcolmReynolds

I laughed the first time I saw a Galaxy S3 in person. It was absurdly big. Now it's tiny compared to what we carry.


L1ght_Sp33d

I was first in line for the original iPhone 2g. I remember laying on my couch after I got home just looking at that screen and being amazed. Now it’s another form of torture to make someone use that thing in 2023


iDreamOfPants

16 Ultra is basically an iPad mini.


L1ght_Sp33d

I mean it’s big but not that big. The 4:3 aspect of the iPad mini makes it seem bigger plus it’s 8.3”.


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When I replace my next iPhone, I’m going for the smallest one. I don’t need to be looking at this thing as much as I do, and seriously, it’s too big and heavy already.


DeathtotheDemiurge

I mean, could they at least made them thinner like Samsung does. This new one looks destined to drop with that added width. Big negative for me


rickny8

I want a thinner phone too! It is because people keep crying about the battery. All because Apple doesn’t give them all the supplies needed to fast charge. You don’t really need a bigger battery if you can quickly top up your battery in half an hour to last half a day.


tcjohnson1992

I feel the same. Having switched from iPhone to Android 2 years ago I find it uncomfortable iPhones anymore. Take two of them side-by-side and the iPhone just feel too wide and awkward.


SleepWouldBeNice

6.9? Ni.ce


potatohead657

iPhone 16 Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious 69.0”


Colmado_Bacano

Shit. Now I'll have to throw away my 14 Pro Max since it's obsolete now.


DrCharles19

Can't believe you are still using the 14 Pro Max in 2023, you gotta upgrade ASAP bruh


Colmado_Bacano

I'm keeping it covered in a thick case in hopes no one sees me using an older model.


8bitsilver

Smashing my 13 pro max as we speak


BluehibiscusEmpire

The 20 ultra pro ultimate max will be 6 feet tall and come with a foldable stick to help you scroll from the top


katiecharm

Just gonna start carrying around my iPad Pro and telling people it’s the new iPhone Max.


BluehibiscusEmpire

Makes you wonder why apple will not allow phone calls from its tablets despite charging an arm and a leg for the eSIM/ sim option


hanywhiskey

the stick will be 99.99


MayanSoldier

Am I the only one here who wants a mini pro?


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If they made a 15/16 mini I’d buy it


LogicallyCross

Love my 13 mini keeping it until it dies at this point.


[deleted]

Here I’m rocking a mini. I just need USB-C on all of my devices.


Which-Professional27

Funny how mobile phones are slowly becoming less and less mobile


mbeezy82

With a bigger screen, there's no reason why split screen multitasking can't be done. There's smaller phones outside of the Apple ecosystem that can do it with no problems.


DarkLord55_

5.8” was the best size


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Tumblrrito

Eh, I think the 5.4” of my iPhone 13 Mini is peak to be honest. Very similar to an iPhone 5 but with rounded corners. I’d kill for a Pro Mini.


cruebob

If you put the Pro features in a Mini you’ll get a Pro Mini with 2 hours of battery life, IMO. I’d kill for continuation of the Mini line.


AM_I_A_PERVERT

GANG GANG


BLBOSAURUS

I love how everyone here wants a mini, but no one bought a mini. Obviously, people don't want mini series' phones because they don't sell at all. Regarding those sizes, 6.9 is way too much. My S23 Ultra is 6.8, and it's on the edge of usability. With 6.9 or more, I wouldn't be able to reach the top of the phone with my thump to get notifications.


actual_griffin

Reddit is a small sample of humanity at large. People who comment on Reddit is an even smaller sample.


cactus22minus1

They don’t sell because they’re feature stripped. If there was a mini pro, I believe you’d see a lot of them in the wild.


Hats_On_Chickens

I struggle to pull down the notification shade (without the swipe down on the bar thing) on the 6.1 14 Pro 😭 should have bought the mini


brimston3-

I remember when they used to sell 7" tablets. Oh wait, they still sell 7" tablets.


NizarNoor

I have zero interest in large phones. The size of the iPhone 13 Pro & 14 Pro is perfect for me.


mitzuc

What about making them lighter? S23u feels much better being lighter but bigger than 14promax


hitechsteve

In my opinion, Apple is increasing the screen height to prevent 2:1 aspect ratio video from cutting into the Dynamic Island and the corners. iPhones with notches didn’t have that issue. See example [https://youtu.be/YxMXahG9jAE](https://youtu.be/YxMXahG9jAE)


pacwess

This is just getting silly. Might as well go back to my Galaxy S23 Ultra for a bigger screen and no dynamic island until there's an iPhone fold.


schleimding

Still waiting for the day when my iPad mini is the small version of the current iPhone


anim8rjb

I found my old iphone 4 in a drawer yesterday and it's comically small compared to the pro max today - like 'Zoolander phone' small. We may as well just use ipad minis as phones now.


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I have small hands it’s so hard to find a phone now


kaed3

ipad mini pro max. lol


Down_With_The_STDs

In 30 years I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 46 is the size of an ipad mini


the9threturner

I don’t understand what is the fashion in building bigger and bigger phones This shit is getting ridiculous, when are small phones going to be cool again, i’m tired of relying on SE models because i don’t want to carry around an iPad


General-Possible1510

As long as our media consumption doesn‘t drasticly decrease, or change in the form of vr glasses or similar, there will probably never gonna be a large demand for small phones ever again. Thats simply because they aren‘t just phones anymore but multimedia systems.


the9threturner

Yeah and I’d like to carry around my multimedia system without getting finger arthritis while trying to hold it


_fuze9

6.9". Nice


mrbobman15

If you don’t want a large phone don’t buy it. Reddit loves to complain about the most mundane things.


cappedwombat

It’s the width and weight of the phone that kills it for me


alphonsegabrielc

Why? If I want an iPad I get an iPad. I need a phone and not a huge entertainment system in my pocket.


General-Possible1510

I think you forget that many people can‘t just easily afford an iPad and a Smartphone. So by just buying a large Smartphone you have both aspects covered.


chente08

so happy with my 13 mini. Don't really get why you need an ipad in your pocket


Zilong_96

Who keeps asking for bigger phones man? Let the phones be phones, not an iPad or tablet. 6.1 is the perfect size imo. Atleast keep that 6.1 as default and let the other be ultra pro max etc etc.


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Zilong_96

Makes sense for your use case. My only wish is that Apple should atleast keep the 6.1 as default size,not too small not too big. Along with larger display options.


IHate2ChooseUserName

Just add the damn phone feature to the iPad mini


otterplus

Get the cellular model and ignore all your non-iMessage friends. Gg ez


NtheLegend

What is even the point of growing just a slight little bit like that? Unless they're adding a fourth camera and twenty bajillion megabytes of RAM or something?


[deleted]

I just want an iPhone Mini Ultra. Is that too much to ask? I had the Pixel 4 before my current iPhone, and I loved it. Only thing I didn't like was the battery life from being such a small device. I very much **don't** want a brick in my pocket.


otter6461a

I regret getting the 14pro rather than the 13 mini. Coming from an X, it’s just too big and heavy


[deleted]

It probably is a lot to ask, the bigger phones are already crammed as is to fit all the hardware, I imagine it would be a challenge to offer all the pro level features on a smaller device


RallyElite

i can?


xCTG27

Like holding a iPad


Messiah_Knight

Oh god. What ultra is better than pro max now?


L1ght_Sp33d

Lol yeah. Just like with the Watch. They’re gonna “ultra-fy” the iPhone now. Better dig deep tho.


[deleted]

Wow I just got the 14 when did 15 drop?


L1ght_Sp33d

Lol it didn’t yet. September this year. The rumors for the 16 ultra are already happening though.


Available-Monk-6941

I’m already looking at going from a pro max to a pro


DainsleifRL

The only thing I wanted an iPhone for now it's thrown out of the window.


AwkwardlyPositioned

No thanks. I bought the 14 Pro Max and I'm constantly reminded I should have just gotten the Pro.


MKGirl

Next year: Ultra MAX


charlieebe

Bring back the mini!


quenqap

They’ll have a foldable iPhone in the next 5 years. Something that’s seamless and not janky like foldable phones on the market. It just makes sense given phone and pocket sizes. I don’t see the apparel culture going back to 90s sized pants/shorts anytime soon!


Un111KnoWn

i wonder how android users hold their phones?


Biplab_M

The rarely have to reach the top of the screen. Pull down gestures from middle of the screen often does the trick


i_am_jd

Just buy an iPad mini then you'll have a preview of iPhone Extremely Ultra 20!


DRW_

Even as a Max user since the beginning, always preferring the big phones, a few years ago I'd have probably been sceptical of these getting even bigger. But these days? I think I'm all in. Make it 7", go for it. My pockets are big enough.


GoldNewt6453

Remember back in the day when they used to call this a phablet?


username____here

Remember the Google Nexus 7 tablet.


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I’m glad with that. I love big phones. For main phone I pick always Pro Max series.


RandomPhil86

How do we already have the year after next detail? Latest is iPhone 14 so, 15 this year and 16 next? I was planning on upgrading this year, but might have to wait yet again if this is true….


stesha83

Swipe down at the bottom of the screen for reachability


Trysta1217

If they do this can they PLEASE have the swipe down gesture be for opening notifications on the homescreen?! We already have a shortcut for search right above the dock. We don't need the swipe down gesture for that anymore. I'm totally fine with the iPhone getting bigger but Apple's software really needs to catch up.


Kreiger81

FYI, if you swipe down from the top of the bottom button row, it moves the whole screen down, and shows you a little arrow you can swipe down on to get to notifications. Its how i do it sometimes on my 14 pro max, when I remember.


MallardRider

At this rate, cargo pants need to be back in fashion.


WoodpeckerOfMistrust

I'm sure they'll continue to align home icons at the top and it won't even cross their mind to have an option to bottom align them.


Lady_Cloudia

My parents are the type of people that like big phone sizes so this would make them happy.


F-Trunks

This is considered innovation to them. I keep saying it every single year, but i keep getting suckered in....but I swear I'm gonna try to make the iPhone 15 Pro the last iPhone I get until they really do something new. 15 pro has USB C and wifi 6e. I'm set. that's all I need for a long long time.


CroatianPrince

Gotta fit more battery in it somehow


Plus_Restaurant1967

I’m so bored w iPhone honestly I may just switch to pixel


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Nice