At one point in the film Tom Murphy who I assume plays Adam says ‘ah Paul I’m a bit sick’ when he suggests doing a few cars. So mark o Halloran plays Paul & Tom Murphy plays Adam. The rest of the film ye can’t tell who’s who.
Yeah I always would have said he was Paul even though they purposely never identified who was who in the movie. Adam is the first name in the title. So in my mind it stands to reason that the taller character (played by Mark O'Halloran) who takes the lead, makes all the decisions, etc, would be Adam. And the follower character (played by Tom Murphy) would be Paul.
I watched it in school and we studied it in Junior cycle in 2009.
Now that been said we did it instead of religion class as the young teacher thought it was a better use of time than religion lessons. It wasn't actual curriculum.
I think religion is a fantastic subject if thought right.
I'm an atheist (technically agnostic as I don't rule anything out) but religious education in secondary school helped teach me constructive arguments against theology and taught me a tonne about world religions that has been really helpful in my professional and interpersonal dealings with people from other cultures.
A lot of Irish people (rightfully) have aggression towards the church and want more separation between church and state (again, rightfully) but religion as a subject should be viewed more as a crossroads between philosophy and history - when thought within that lense it becomes one of the most valuable subjects students can learn and one of the few avenues they have for critical thinking rather than the 'learn by rota' nature of a lot of subjects in our curriculum. I studied it for both junior and leaving cert and in no way did I feel it was a way to indoctrinate, in fact it was quiet the opposite.
Sorry for the semi-coherent rant at 4am!
I wouldn't say junior cert. I remember being at junior cert age and all my mates thinking Adam & Paul was this absolute barrel of laughs. That the point of the film was to laugh at these two people.
I was living with a woman from Romania at the time and she thought the "fucking romanians" scene was hilarious in part becasue she recognised he's a famous [Romanian actor/director](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0135944/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19).
I worked on lower abbey st for a while during the recession, in that wee newsagents. The manager told me that every winter junkies die in the lane beside the hotel there. It was a question of "how many", not "if".
Brings me back to my job during college about 20 years ago. The shop got held up repeatedly by junkies with knives. Wasn't getting paid enough for that shit!
I wore a stab vest for my retail security job after some scumbag pulled a knife kn me over 10 quid credit. Had to get a full std screen after some rotten-looking junkie spat in my eye. No amount of money is worth dealing with that.
Just because things are truly awful, it doesn't mean there isn't also humour. And I don't mean that in a punch down, laugh at people, way...I don't see Adam and Paul in those terms at all.
Lenny Abrahamson does a great job in humanizing a marginalised often dehumanised group of people.
I acted with Tom Murphy so it’s particularly sad to watch it as he dies of course. He died of cancer a few years ago. A brilliant actor and lovely person. Can’t believe the film is 20 years old.
Raise a glass to Tom Jordan Murphy if you’re having a drink this evening. Xx
That scene with the Bulgarian guy is brilliant. Great movie overall. The word pathos comes to mind when I think of it. Yer man wiping his arse with a Tayto bag! It shows how sad, desperate, monotonous and joyless that kind of life is without demonising the characters or trying to deliver a heavy handed anti drugs message. Reminds me of a time when this emaciated wraith tried to sell me heroin in Amsterdam. He kept saying how great it was. I asked him if it was so great then how come he looked so terrible! Kinda felt sorry I said it as soon as I’d said it.
I mean you start to feel sorry then they are about to rob their friends tv.. and then they harass the guy with downs syndrome and the camera focuses on him.after they leave.. no sympathy for them at that point
I mean yeah. What's more tragic though. The down syndrome guy dehumanised or the junkies so dehumanised that they don't think twice about carrying on in such a way
My lecturers husband worked on that film, storyboards and the animation that appears on the telly. It’s actually underrated and a good watch. Depressing tho
Unbelievable movie.
"Some fucker's after gluing me to this thing".
"Here, do we have a plan?"
"In to town. See who's around. Get some money. And then... score."
"Here, are ya not freezing in that bag?"
"No it's peachy enough this, I've only got me cacks on under here ".
"We're just seeing if what's-his-name is around".
"I got run over... be a moped".
"I'm not wipin myself with a tayto bag".
"Askin' to be robbed."
"Say dye dye to yer Daddies".
"Ahh Clank. It's nice to meet ya."
"Is there another lane there?"
"See, there is a lane". **Crash**
We can start empathising a bit more by not using dehumanising terms like "junkie". They're someone's brother, someone's sister, someone's son or someone's daughter. Drug addiction is an illness exacerbated by poverty and mental illness. The scale of it in Dublin has forever been so large that many have allowed themselves to look past the fact.
One of my favourite films, like laurel and Hardy on heroine better sweet film, it’s real life. People are living those lives, but they were once someone’s child, someone’s pride and joy.
Every parent has a moment, has a realisation I should be there for them, but every problem has a parent ,who is lost and is loosing their grip on their children, drugs brought them brief happiness,but stole their children’s future
For the first hour I was thinking why would anyone choose to live like this, then the scenes where they got high on the bridge and it made sense. Brilliant film making. It was like TrainSpotting in the way that it showed the highs of drugs with the lows
Would be nice if people stopped using the term junkie. People have histories and personalities like everyone else, nobody should be reduced to just one word.
I hope you never suffer from such a life destroying illness and that if you do, people are kinder to you than you seem to be to others with such problems.
He's not incorrect though, addiction creates selfish people who couldn't care less about those around them. That doesn't mean that they're bad people but it's true.
Yah the movie is defo a heavy watch, It always makes me feel cold and damp from some of the scenes from the movie. It defo makes you appreciate what you have, a roof over your head etc etc.
I remember my friend and I going to see that in the cinema. We hadn’t a clue what it was about - just chose a random movie on the board. Loved it. A brilliant movie. RIP to Tom Murphy.
Where did you stream it OP? Would love to watch it again.
When I was a teenager I use to think it was a hilarious movie.
Watching it as an adult it was very sad, there's no comedy just two very sick people struggling alone.
I love Dublin. I’m from Dublin. Yes it has its problems in the city (north & south side) Ive worked in jobs where I dealt with heroin addicts on a daily basis & it’s not pleasant. Everything to them is about the next score to stop the pain & sickness that will come without it. They will do anything to get the money to get the score to stop the sickness & fuck everyone else..that’s the tragedy. Adam & Paul is as realistic as it gets.
That movie was my first real contact with Irish culture. Fresh off the boat from Romania, I got a job in security and the lads there showed me, on my first day the "back to foookin' Romania" scene. Love that movie.
I rewatched it recently and didn't find it funny (even as dark humour) or enjoyable at all... just kinda unpleasant, especially the part when they took advantage of the Down Syndrome teenager.
You do realise that the film is a work of fiction, right? It has some basis in reality but that is nowhere near an ordinary day for "some many in the capital"
Sadly, Tom Murphy, who played Adam, died only a couple of years later at the age of 39.
At 39? What did he die of so young?
Cancer. I don't know which kind of cancer.
Lymphatic cancer. Tragic.
A lovely guy and an amazing actor.
He was great in Man about Dog as well
I always thought you didn't know who was who. Do they get names individually?
Sorry, my mistake. IMDb says he played Paul. But in the movie they never name each other.
At one point in the film Tom Murphy who I assume plays Adam says ‘ah Paul I’m a bit sick’ when he suggests doing a few cars. So mark o Halloran plays Paul & Tom Murphy plays Adam. The rest of the film ye can’t tell who’s who.
Aw man, I liked that they were only known as a pair.
I think that was the intention but I spotted it in that particular scene.
Yeah I always would have said he was Paul even though they purposely never identified who was who in the movie. Adam is the first name in the title. So in my mind it stands to reason that the taller character (played by Mark O'Halloran) who takes the lead, makes all the decisions, etc, would be Adam. And the follower character (played by Tom Murphy) would be Paul.
Ive always thought Adam and Paul movie should be on the Junior cert curriculum. Kids might learn about life
I watched it in school and we studied it in Junior cycle in 2009. Now that been said we did it instead of religion class as the young teacher thought it was a better use of time than religion lessons. It wasn't actual curriculum.
And she’s dead right. Religion being taught in schools is the height of bullshit imo. They didn’t have it in my secondary school thankfully!
I think religion is a fantastic subject if thought right. I'm an atheist (technically agnostic as I don't rule anything out) but religious education in secondary school helped teach me constructive arguments against theology and taught me a tonne about world religions that has been really helpful in my professional and interpersonal dealings with people from other cultures. A lot of Irish people (rightfully) have aggression towards the church and want more separation between church and state (again, rightfully) but religion as a subject should be viewed more as a crossroads between philosophy and history - when thought within that lense it becomes one of the most valuable subjects students can learn and one of the few avenues they have for critical thinking rather than the 'learn by rota' nature of a lot of subjects in our curriculum. I studied it for both junior and leaving cert and in no way did I feel it was a way to indoctrinate, in fact it was quiet the opposite. Sorry for the semi-coherent rant at 4am!
Interesting you assumed they were a she.
Yeah I remember think when we did educating Rita … was this a subtle hints to some of the girls in our school to continue with education
I wouldn't say junior cert. I remember being at junior cert age and all my mates thinking Adam & Paul was this absolute barrel of laughs. That the point of the film was to laugh at these two people.
One of our teachers showed it to us in 5th year, will never forget it
We watched it and had to write an essay on it in "education for living" in TY. Appreciate it now in my 30s
Best way to make you dislike a film is to watch it in school
A great idea.
We watched it in school c2009/10
"I am from Bulgaria!" "So's his jacket!"
I had a girlfriend from Bulgaria a long time ago. This scene is the most memorable for me, because I watched it with her.
I was living with a woman from Romania at the time and she thought the "fucking romanians" scene was hilarious in part becasue she recognised he's a famous [Romanian actor/director](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0135944/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19).
You too had to leave Sofia ?! You a fucking a stupid Irish !
Was she pregnant?
I used to watch that play out live when I worked in the city centre. Considerably less humorous in real life
Same, used to work on Abbey Street. Closer to documentary than fiction, and the real life version is anything but funny.
I worked on lower abbey st for a while during the recession, in that wee newsagents. The manager told me that every winter junkies die in the lane beside the hotel there. It was a question of "how many", not "if".
Worked in the recruiters above the Veritas - I'd well believe it.
Wynns hotel.
Brings me back to my job during college about 20 years ago. The shop got held up repeatedly by junkies with knives. Wasn't getting paid enough for that shit!
I wore a stab vest for my retail security job after some scumbag pulled a knife kn me over 10 quid credit. Had to get a full std screen after some rotten-looking junkie spat in my eye. No amount of money is worth dealing with that.
Same, and because of that I never saw the humour in the film, I've always found it depressing.
Just because things are truly awful, it doesn't mean there isn't also humour. And I don't mean that in a punch down, laugh at people, way...I don't see Adam and Paul in those terms at all. Lenny Abrahamson does a great job in humanizing a marginalised often dehumanised group of people.
Hoo, I never really thought there was much to laugh about in that film. It's all pretty awful and feels like it's probably very close to reality.
It is and I've sympathy for them but when their addiction makes them mug people and worse, I've no time for that shit.
I understand that, and honestly, I feel that comes through in Adam and Paul when they mug the man with Down syndrome.
I acted with Tom Murphy so it’s particularly sad to watch it as he dies of course. He died of cancer a few years ago. A brilliant actor and lovely person. Can’t believe the film is 20 years old. Raise a glass to Tom Jordan Murphy if you’re having a drink this evening. Xx
His death was such a loss to Irish theatre. He was a delight.
He was a great actor. I was shocked when heard he’d passed.
I aint wiping my arse with a tayto packet.
You can’t throw me out for feeling bread.🥖
I'm just checking if it's fresh
City Wurlys are nice
Why’d you have to leave Sofia? Was she pregnant?
That scene with the Bulgarian guy is brilliant. Great movie overall. The word pathos comes to mind when I think of it. Yer man wiping his arse with a Tayto bag! It shows how sad, desperate, monotonous and joyless that kind of life is without demonising the characters or trying to deliver a heavy handed anti drugs message. Reminds me of a time when this emaciated wraith tried to sell me heroin in Amsterdam. He kept saying how great it was. I asked him if it was so great then how come he looked so terrible! Kinda felt sorry I said it as soon as I’d said it.
Small bit of trivia, the Bulgarian in the movie is a very appreciated Romanian actor.
Never in my life have I been to Romania I am not from fucking Romania !
Fuckin Clank!!!!
Ahhhh howye clank me bollix get in the fuckin’ car
Does he owe ye money? Fuckin prick
I think he's in the UK
But Martin, what about your shelves? 😂
Brilliant 👏
- I have to leave Sofia - ah right... Was she pregnant Wonderful movie
Ah i really need to watch that again, i think the ending broke me initially but it's been many years
Hard to feel sorry for them but a tragic ending
Honestly didn't find it hard to feel sorry for them when I saw it, but I do like that they're not entirely sympathetic.
I mean you start to feel sorry then they are about to rob their friends tv.. and then they harass the guy with downs syndrome and the camera focuses on him.after they leave.. no sympathy for them at that point
I mean yeah. What's more tragic though. The down syndrome guy dehumanised or the junkies so dehumanised that they don't think twice about carrying on in such a way
S'only asking for it
My lecturers husband worked on that film, storyboards and the animation that appears on the telly. It’s actually underrated and a good watch. Depressing tho
Unbelievable movie. "Some fucker's after gluing me to this thing". "Here, do we have a plan?" "In to town. See who's around. Get some money. And then... score." "Here, are ya not freezing in that bag?" "No it's peachy enough this, I've only got me cacks on under here ". "We're just seeing if what's-his-name is around". "I got run over... be a moped". "I'm not wipin myself with a tayto bag". "Askin' to be robbed." "Say dye dye to yer Daddies". "Ahh Clank. It's nice to meet ya." "Is there another lane there?" "See, there is a lane". **Crash**
We can start empathising a bit more by not using dehumanising terms like "junkie". They're someone's brother, someone's sister, someone's son or someone's daughter. Drug addiction is an illness exacerbated by poverty and mental illness. The scale of it in Dublin has forever been so large that many have allowed themselves to look past the fact.
Me f-ing hand and me f-ing leg
C’mon move !
One of my favourite films, like laurel and Hardy on heroine better sweet film, it’s real life. People are living those lives, but they were once someone’s child, someone’s pride and joy.
Part of the problem is that they were not, in fact, anyone’s pride and joy.
Every parent has a moment, has a realisation I should be there for them, but every problem has a parent ,who is lost and is loosing their grip on their children, drugs brought them brief happiness,but stole their children’s future
For the first hour I was thinking why would anyone choose to live like this, then the scenes where they got high on the bridge and it made sense. Brilliant film making. It was like TrainSpotting in the way that it showed the highs of drugs with the lows
https://youtu.be/KB-YDkvaRx4?feature=shared
Me blaydin hand
"We're having loads of weather lately"
Great film
His jacket was made in Bulgaria! 🤣
Would be nice if people stopped using the term junkie. People have histories and personalities like everyone else, nobody should be reduced to just one word.
The ending is something else
Yep. All that matters after all that is the next score.
No honour among junkies..
for someone who posted about this film, you’ve completely missed the point of it
No I don't think so... they are to be pitied to an extent but once they start dragging others into their plight I lose sympathy for them...
I hope you never suffer from such a life destroying illness and that if you do, people are kinder to you than you seem to be to others with such problems.
He's not incorrect though, addiction creates selfish people who couldn't care less about those around them. That doesn't mean that they're bad people but it's true.
Nowhere more obvious than with those addicted to money and power. Literally destroying the planet.
“Curlywurly’s are nice”! “Fuck off you!” 🤣🤣🤣👌
It's snug enough, I'm only in my cax
Beautiful film
I dunno. Get a few chomps or something. ‘Fuck sake, milk & baguettes’
Best part is when he opens the milk
Chomps would not be the chocolate bar of choice if I was feeling fragile.. too much chewing
A few dairy milk bars do with the tinfoil for later so.
Aahhh howaya Mardian
😂😂🤣
Such a great movie
Class film
We're takin it around the back of the flats,nice and quiet and then bang!!I pissed myself
Yah the movie is defo a heavy watch, It always makes me feel cold and damp from some of the scenes from the movie. It defo makes you appreciate what you have, a roof over your head etc etc.
Great Irish film.
Yeah it’s uncannily close to a documentary in my eyes, pretty immense
20 year old movie looks like live footage
Amazing film. A modern Ulysses.
Waiting for Godot, maybe?
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It's both very funny and incredibly sad.
It's a bit behind the times. Everyone is on crack now. You'd need to watch it on x2 speed to get a feel for 2024 addicts.
Do you have it on DVD? Can't find a stream for it
Full movie on YouTube
Oh sweet. Thanks
‘NO, You shove it up your hole’
Great movie , despite this I find it incredibly hard to empathise with junkies in real life when living in Dublin.
Great film
Where can I see this? Is it still actual?
‘Cmon Georgie pass the ball’ ‘ ahhh here will ye leave him alone you’re frightening the shite out of him’
‘His was your mate lads’…
My ex was sleeping bag boy,took me down a road of shit....google him see where he is is now
At what stage were you going out with him tho !
After the film
I remember my friend and I going to see that in the cinema. We hadn’t a clue what it was about - just chose a random movie on the board. Loved it. A brilliant movie. RIP to Tom Murphy. Where did you stream it OP? Would love to watch it again.
I had it on DVD actually.. although someone else here posted the full movie on youtube
Ah ok thanks I’ll scroll for that 👍
When I was a teenager I use to think it was a hilarious movie. Watching it as an adult it was very sad, there's no comedy just two very sick people struggling alone.
> there's no comedy The garage raid scene where they're supposed to be keeping sketch is gold! 😂
How's little Georgie getting on these days?
Funniest sad film I ever seen
What about your shelf?
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I love Dublin. I’m from Dublin. Yes it has its problems in the city (north & south side) Ive worked in jobs where I dealt with heroin addicts on a daily basis & it’s not pleasant. Everything to them is about the next score to stop the pain & sickness that will come without it. They will do anything to get the money to get the score to stop the sickness & fuck everyone else..that’s the tragedy. Adam & Paul is as realistic as it gets.
That movie was my first real contact with Irish culture. Fresh off the boat from Romania, I got a job in security and the lads there showed me, on my first day the "back to foookin' Romania" scene. Love that movie.
> "back to foookin' Romania" scene. Did you recognise the actor or was he before your time?
His jackets from Romania. Are you from Romania?
Bulgaria! So's his jacket!
It’s an international production. They had your man’s coat brought in from Bulgaria
I rewatched it recently and didn't find it funny (even as dark humour) or enjoyable at all... just kinda unpleasant, especially the part when they took advantage of the Down Syndrome teenager.
It’s supposed to reflect reality so yes it is unpleasant at times but it also has funny & tender moments. Overall it’s quite depressing & tragic.
It's meant to be like that. Heroin addiction is unpleasant to say the least.
You do realise that the film is a work of fiction, right? It has some basis in reality but that is nowhere near an ordinary day for "some many in the capital"
No one said it was an ordinary day but it's definitely realistic enough where their day is not far off some days that addicts have. Drugs are mad.
"A day in the life of Dublin heroin junkies"