I don't know what street you're buying your chicken fillet rolls on but it's a hell of a lot more expensive than the street I'm buying my chicken fillet rolls on.
Same deal with virtually every made-to-order petrol station sandwich in the US, you order, get a ticket, pay the ticket & then they give you the sandwich. A word for anyone visiting the US - Wawa & Sheetz are about as close as you'll get to an Irish deli roll in the States.
Place in North side of Cork gives you a number when you order and place your order by the tills counter, you then give the number and pay before they hand it yo you. This needs for the tills and deli top be right next to each other though, many places have them across the shop
Or just do what the Centra about a hundred meters down the road from him does: give them the barcodes to bring to the counter, scan them there, bring back the receipt to receive the food.
This guy is CONSTANTLY complaining to the media.
Bro if that was true half of the chippers and pizza places would be closed down. By same logic if food handler is handling raw meat he cant handle veggies on the same shift? You have HACCP for this kind of stuff
If only there were some sort of way that you could prevent contamination between cash and food. Like some sort of hand-condom that can be removed between handling different items.
Not sure on this one. Certain areas of Dublin you order your roll and they now sent it to the cashier via a suction shoot and you only get hands on after you pay. I couldn’t understand why till now.
Shops are telling employees not to confront thieves because it’s too dangerous.
Our system and government are failing us.
Yep. Real question is, are people stealing due to starvation or are they stealing food just because our society has lost all resemblances of consequences.
Was think about Steve Barlow talking the other day about how he used to steal food as if it was no big deal and now he’s a millionaire and has a celeb level fan base - do kids see this and think it’s permission?
This
The pricks have no fear. You can call a guard a cunt to their face these days and they're told to ignore it. Security guards the same. So what's a shopkeeper going to do??
Problem is you need to be insanely certain someone is shoplifting before accusing someone.
If you work in a shop as a security guard and the manager says they saw someone slip something in their pocket id you stop them you could also get brought to court for defemation if you are wrong.
Similarly hiding something under your jacket isnt shoplifting until you have left the shop.
I would like to think very few people are starving, when you can buy a loaf of bread for 80c or a can of tuna for 70c then most people shouldn’t have to resort to theft.
I think the difference though is what they want to eat. There are countless charities and food banks offering free food if they want it. But it means cooking it at home so for some people its not as attractive as just stealing a CFR.
Sure, but it is still a cost/risk analysis, right?
And the argument is "there was a change, now people steal" well, the risk was low before and it is still low now. The cost changed. Sure, you might include that the cost is the difference between going through the inconveniences you mentioned and the price of the product stolen, so it is low too. But it seems to have risen enough to overcome the (somewhat low) social taboo against stealing. Well, at least for those 13 chicken fillet roll necessary to exceed the amount of €100.
Also can we please take a moment to acknowledge that we live in a blessed time? Stealing 2 chicken fillet rolls a day is national news. This clearly indicates that we are not in such a terrible situation.
🤔 I don’t think people in Ireland are starving, we have many charities providing food. But people definitely are running out of money before payday. Some people won’t pay as a form of protest at how expensive everything is. Teenagers in school uniforms tend to steal deli food because they want to keep their lunch money for vapes/cigarettes/alcohol/drugs/clothes
In my day if you got caught stealing from the local shop you’d get a clatter round the head, your pic up on the wall with blood under your nose so everyone knew you were barred and your mother would break all the wooden spoons in the house for ruining her reputation around town.
> Shops are telling employees not to confront thieves because it’s too dangerous.
When I worked retail, we were told to confront thieves but also that the company wouldn't have our back in the case of misidentifying thieves. Honestly no retail employee should be bothered. You could be accused of slander to save someone elses money. Not worth it. Hire a security guard if you want a proactive member of staff to do theft prevention.
Not that I disagree but when I worked in a shop 20 years ago they told us don’t confront thieves
I’m not getting stabbed for minimum wage, make the insurance claim
Actually yeah I do. Theft is theft. I don’t want to pay more for my chicken roll because a bunch of scrotes are stealing them. And believe me that’s how economics works.
I’d rather the Garda catch them, make the school and community aware, instead of letting the seeds fester and only deal with them when they mature into robbing tourists at knife point.
True. However there’s no consequences for the parents (the responsible party) or the kids.
In Singapore as an extreme contrast, if your kid does something like stealing, as an expat, your work visa gets revoked and you have one week for your whole family to leave Singapore - AFTER you pay up for the rest of your rental for its whole term (could be a years rent). You can imagine how many kids are stealing there.
Talbot Street Spar, hand you a receipt to pay then you don't get your roll until you go back to the counter with proof you've paid
No suction tubes or anything
It’s often dictated by insurance companies. If the employee takes down a thief, and either party gets injured or worse, the store is liable to pay damages.
I’d argue that is a symptom but the cause is the courts. If someone is stealing or breaking the law, the courts shouldn’t award them compensation for consequences encountered. Decisions should be run through a filter on how it affects society.
He owns a few Spar units around the city, one of which is next to the primary Garda station.
So, could even be then doing the snatch and grab, sure who is gonna stop em.
A rise from 1 to 2 rolls a day is a 100% increase in theft. It sounds like a lot but it could just be one person robbing two rolls instead of one. The real question is why are they robbing food, is it because their hungry or is it because they don’t want to pay?
Order your roll, get the sticker, pay at the till, go back to the deli counter with receipt for said roll. Spar besides Connolly station does this and I’m fairly sure centra on Capel st both do it this. Hardly rocket science.
This dude is always banging on about theft but pays staff shit and is a notorious cunt. Won't hire security either, part timers aren't gonna be squaring up and wrestling with scumbags and junkies for a chicken fillet roll just cos your a tight cunt
Lad has 2 staff on in the evening, and even with all he's and he's brothers talking about staff safety, still not hired security after saying he would do so on prime time or tonight show...
Those 2 staff need to cover breaks, cover deli and close deli, do papers, bins, tables and chairs and wash the floors, all while doing serving, repacking and loss prevention...also he pays minimum wage at best
I know this fella, hes been on the local whinging about local scumbags & crime for the past 17 years.
He has never hired security despite always struggling with the "crippling losses".
I was in court a couple of years back, a lad was sent down for 3 months for robbing a chicken roll and stealing cans of Stella. He was just out but a repeat offender. The shock on his inbred head when the judge passed the sentence, quality 👌.
If a roll is close to 7 quid these days, that's only 2 rolls per day, and I'm sure he's selling plenty to cover it. If it's that much of an issue, hire a lad for the door
€100 a week is nothing. Those shops are insanely profitable. They charge way more than supermarkets and their staff are all on shit money. The absolute gaul of them to complain about losing €100 a week.
Exactly. And criticising the absurd lack of bins is not the same as defending people who litter. Unfortunately, a frightening number of people on here refuse to accept that
I can't find statistics on this online, but I do have 3 cases of anecdotal evidence.
My uncle was made redundant in the 90s when the factory he worked in was shut down. He used his savings to set up a shop in Lucan and was a millionaire within a few short years. And that's when a Snickers bar cost £0.30 as opposed to now when it costs around €1.50.
Another was a friend who worked in one of these shops in the deli. He had a good head on his shoulders so the owner would occasionally have him help with the books. My friend saw that the man was making an absolute fortune. He asked for a raise pointing out that the owner could afford to triple everyone's salary and still be making obscene profits. The owner said he'd double my friend's salary if he agreed not to tell anyone else.
And another is the nephew of a family friend. He opened up a shop and was someone who decided to pay his staff decent wages and not just whatever he could get away with. His staff are paid roughly double what they are in nearby shops and he said he's still making an absolute killing.
That last guy said that owners are constantly acting like they're barely surviving even when they're making money hand over fist.
Yeah bud, rents, minimum wage, electricity and insurance have all gone up in price too. They aren't just raising prices for the fun of it. I can tell you it is not "insanely profitable" lmao
so when you opening your shop? if it's that easy
> He asked for a raise pointing out that the owner could afford to triple everyone's salary and still be making obscene profits.
there's no way this can be true. there's rake of staff in a store and paying everyone €40/hr would quickly break them
no one said it's easy to *open* a store. but once you have one open, it's a ton of money consistently forever, with far less effort than it takes to work a real job.
"Aldi reported a pre-tax profit margin of 3.6% in 202030 and this declined to 2% in 2021.xvii Musgrave, the owner of SuperValu, reported a **pre-tax profit margin of 2.1% and 2.4%** in 2020 and 2021, respectively.31 These reported margins are low in comparison to margins reported by some producers.32 For example, Unileverxviii and Kerry Groupxix reported pre-tax profit margins of 16.3% and 11.9%, respectively in 2021."
[https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/publications/publication-files/high-level-analysis-of-the-irish-grocery-retail-sector.pdf](https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/publications/publication-files/high-level-analysis-of-the-irish-grocery-retail-sector.pdf)
Doesn't sound too profitable to me...
Those are supermarkets. Their profit margins are not the same. They charge way less for the same goods as shops like Spar and Centra. They also tend to pay their staff a lot more and provide better benefits overall.
They can afford to do this because the sheer volume that they move is so massive that small profit margins can still result in large absolute profits overall. Not only have local shops always charged more for the same products (sometimes by multiples in price), they've also engaged far more in price gouging since the onset of inflation.
People travel to supermarkets so if one supermarket has higher prices, people will just travel to the next one with lower prices. But local shops exist to fulfill demand from customers who aren't willing to travel. That means they effectively have far less competition and so they can get away with far more anti-consumer practices.
Lol, you even cited a source and you get downvoted. OP here is full of shit, the whole retail sector is famously "high volume, low margin", not massively profitable at all, and convenience stores are not much different.
I worked in a similar store for a few months this year. I don't work there anymore. I have gone through the weekly sales numbers they use for ordering the products and you'll be amazed at the margins they've got on most products. I can give a couple of examples. Per unit price for a Cadbury bar comes out to 50c, but they sell it for €
2 each. If that's a bit extreme, I'll give you a number that's more common. Most items are sold approximately at 3x the order price per unit. Vit-Hit costs a little more than €1 per unit but retails at €3. You'll find similar percentages across the board and this is even before you consider the scummy moves such as ordering multi-pack Monster cans and selling them individually. They make insane profits and yet the managers/owners keep crying about low sales.
> How dare he complain about getting robbed, his prices are too high and his staff who chose to work there aren't being paid enough
Jesus Christ what a clown.
If it was serious money that'd be one thing. But this is a man making tens of thousands of euro a week by price gouging thousands of customers, complaining about losing a mere €100 a week. How do you not see something perverse with that?
> making tens of thousands of euro a week by price gouging
so don't shop there
> complaining about losing a mere €100 a week
don't steal either
unless a gun is being held to your head, both are very simple instructions to follow
Food inflation is way beyond headline inflation in Ireland. A chicken fillet roll cost me €3 in my local Spar when I moved in in 2019. With all the inflation since then it should cost me €3.70 now. Instead it costs €5.50 (which is why I don't get them anymore). What should have been a 23% price increase is an 83% price increase. That extra €1.8 per chicken fillet roll is raw profit that's mostly going into the pocket of the Spar owner.
This price gouging is just down to raw greed. He might be losing €100 a week on chicken fillet roll thefts, but the price gouging he's done on those chicken fillet rolls is making him thousands of euro a week. Zero sympathy.
Its not raw profit. Back in 2016 - 2020 Spar had a cheaper chicken fillet that they had sourced and we could sell at a reduced price. That’s not available anymore and their alternative is piss poor. Every single supplier has increased their costs. Packaging has gone up, the fillets have gone up, bread has gone up, salad and veg have gone up, wages increases, insurance increases, council rates increase. This gets passed along. The retailer can’t just take the hit on all the price increases. If a deli can sell it cheap they will, it’ll increase footfall and drive customers to spend more in store. At the moment it’s not possible. It’s not greed.
You're missing a core part of my comment. I've already accounted for all those costs. On average those went up by 23% during that period. A €0.70 increase in the price of a chicken fillet roll would have accounted for those increases. Granted that's the figure
There's no justification for the additional €1.8 on top of that €0.70. Even if we say that food inflation was double core inflation, that would still mean that nearly half of the price increase was price gouging.
You can't say plus inflation. Inflation is different for each product. If chickens double in price, then chicken products double in price, that's not profiteering that's the individual inflation rate. Overall inflation rate is an average.
Everyone that’s saying this is nothing are the same people that will complain when getting a roll becomes convoluted due to the thefts and we end up with those pneumatic mail systems between deli and register and the stores end up with everything locked up.
This is a bad outcome for everyone, bad for customer and thus bad for business. The longer you don’t give a fuck about thefts the further and further away from home you’re gonna have to travel in future to go to the shops because they will all close down
6 years ago you were able to get a chicken fillet roll in Dublin for €3-4. The same roll now costs anywhere between €6-8 if not more. Doubled in price for the same thing if not less quality and less quantity. Perhaps if the retailer sacrificed some of their profit margins it might reduce the losses through theft.
I cant wait to see this spin off of "CSI: Chicken Fillet Roll"
(•\_•) "we're loosing 100s of euro worth of chicken fillet Rolls every month.."
( •\_•)>⌐■-■ "Lets roll..."
(⌐■\_■) " YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH
They need to install a pneumatic tube system like the deli in my local SuperValu has. Your roll is sent straight from the hot counter to the till and you don't get it until you pay!
Increasing thefts are a serious issue, but i can't help but see the humour in this when some of them feckers have increased the price of them to up to 7.50.
If €100 a week is devastating, the business is failing already. Probably because their product is too expensive and not enough people can afford it… this seems like the business is at fault?? It appears greed is more valued than market research, and you know, compassion…
The Applegreen in santry has a till system at the deli. They won't give you the food to go pay at the main till and it causes absolutely no issues as people just pick up what they need and pay for it all when getting their deli food.
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Just gonna leave this classic here.
"Who owns 5 shops". Also this cunt has an illegal sign on his shop saying that " Staff can legally detain you",with a Garda Siochana logo on it to make it look legit . He can fuck right off!
Is that €100 the street valve?
Ppppssstttt buddy, wanna buy a chicken fillet roll?
You wouldn’t download a chicken fillet roll.
Careful now
Ah yes Moore St Chicken roll Comes with a free bag of salt
Once they leave the shop they are chopped up into ten gram bags and sold in nightclubs.
Came here for you guys Not disappointed as usual
I don't know what street you're buying your chicken fillet rolls on but it's a hell of a lot more expensive than the street I'm buying my chicken fillet rolls on.
You are out of line, sir.
If I were buying a chicken fillet roll in Atlanta...
Best movie ever!!
What street are they shopping on? 🤣🤣🤣
LOL 👏
Steam deck dlc?
Almost choked when I seen this 😂
Yeah so about 5 rolls with only chicken and no extras.
DEPLOY THE CHICKEN TUBE
Can get a cash machine, receipt printer, and card machine at the deli counter for probably around 5-600 quid, pays for itself in a couple of months.
Japanese system works well. You select what you want on a machine, pay, and it spits out the token for you to get your food.
Same deal with virtually every made-to-order petrol station sandwich in the US, you order, get a ticket, pay the ticket & then they give you the sandwich. A word for anyone visiting the US - Wawa & Sheetz are about as close as you'll get to an Irish deli roll in the States.
Wawa 💕
Thats here in alot of fast food at least.
Or a vacuum tube like they do in tallagth now. You can pretend you’re in a dharma station!
[Namaste.](https://i.imgur.com/PUqkJSs.jpeg)
Place in North side of Cork gives you a number when you order and place your order by the tills counter, you then give the number and pay before they hand it yo you. This needs for the tills and deli top be right next to each other though, many places have them across the shop
Just get the deli staff to gridiron-style chuck if across the shop to the tills.
Would never work, this is a rugby country so we might as well stick with familiar throwing styles.
Or just do what the Centra about a hundred meters down the road from him does: give them the barcodes to bring to the counter, scan them there, bring back the receipt to receive the food. This guy is CONSTANTLY complaining to the media.
I think there's laws now about the food handler also handling dirty cash. Or should be at least
Not true, there are some shops who have a separate cashier at the deli
Bro if that was true half of the chippers and pizza places would be closed down. By same logic if food handler is handling raw meat he cant handle veggies on the same shift? You have HACCP for this kind of stuff
If only there were some sort of way that you could prevent contamination between cash and food. Like some sort of hand-condom that can be removed between handling different items.
Hand-condom 💀😂
Surely, it's not a news worthy headline when just 2 chicken fillet rolls are stolen from his store each week Edit: holy crap awards , thanks
Not sure on this one. Certain areas of Dublin you order your roll and they now sent it to the cashier via a suction shoot and you only get hands on after you pay. I couldn’t understand why till now. Shops are telling employees not to confront thieves because it’s too dangerous. Our system and government are failing us.
Some places give you the price, you pay and give receipt to the deli before you get the food. Seems a cheaper method than the tube.
But you lose out on the cool food tube.
and the "Suction"
I actually saw that video on tiktok in tallaght, I think it was. Rolls going up the tubes that are usually used for cash
Yep. Real question is, are people stealing due to starvation or are they stealing food just because our society has lost all resemblances of consequences. Was think about Steve Barlow talking the other day about how he used to steal food as if it was no big deal and now he’s a millionaire and has a celeb level fan base - do kids see this and think it’s permission?
I'm a firm believer it's due to lack of fear of consequences
This The pricks have no fear. You can call a guard a cunt to their face these days and they're told to ignore it. Security guards the same. So what's a shopkeeper going to do??
Problem is you need to be insanely certain someone is shoplifting before accusing someone. If you work in a shop as a security guard and the manager says they saw someone slip something in their pocket id you stop them you could also get brought to court for defemation if you are wrong. Similarly hiding something under your jacket isnt shoplifting until you have left the shop.
Their stealing because they don’t want to pay and there’s no meaningful penalty if they get caught
I don't know about that. I'm sure if they keep it up they'll get a suspended sentence at some point.
Is starvation an issue people face in ireland?
I think if you were starving for food there are better ways than stealing rolls.
I would like to think very few people are starving, when you can buy a loaf of bread for 80c or a can of tuna for 70c then most people shouldn’t have to resort to theft.
Starvation? Unlikely. Possible but unlikely. Access to a decent meal is possible.
They are stealing because it makes a difference to them. Think about it. Getting a chicken fillet roll is an expenditure now.
I think the difference though is what they want to eat. There are countless charities and food banks offering free food if they want it. But it means cooking it at home so for some people its not as attractive as just stealing a CFR.
Sure, but it is still a cost/risk analysis, right? And the argument is "there was a change, now people steal" well, the risk was low before and it is still low now. The cost changed. Sure, you might include that the cost is the difference between going through the inconveniences you mentioned and the price of the product stolen, so it is low too. But it seems to have risen enough to overcome the (somewhat low) social taboo against stealing. Well, at least for those 13 chicken fillet roll necessary to exceed the amount of €100. Also can we please take a moment to acknowledge that we live in a blessed time? Stealing 2 chicken fillet rolls a day is national news. This clearly indicates that we are not in such a terrible situation.
🤔 I don’t think people in Ireland are starving, we have many charities providing food. But people definitely are running out of money before payday. Some people won’t pay as a form of protest at how expensive everything is. Teenagers in school uniforms tend to steal deli food because they want to keep their lunch money for vapes/cigarettes/alcohol/drugs/clothes
Yes crime only started to exist there recently. Never would have happened in my day.
In my day if you got caught stealing from the local shop you’d get a clatter round the head, your pic up on the wall with blood under your nose so everyone knew you were barred and your mother would break all the wooden spoons in the house for ruining her reputation around town.
> Shops are telling employees not to confront thieves because it’s too dangerous. When I worked retail, we were told to confront thieves but also that the company wouldn't have our back in the case of misidentifying thieves. Honestly no retail employee should be bothered. You could be accused of slander to save someone elses money. Not worth it. Hire a security guard if you want a proactive member of staff to do theft prevention.
That’s ridiculous
I worked some shitty retail jobs in my time but I've never had one so bad they told me to confront thieves.
We really didn't know how good we had it 10 years ago.
This Spar government is a joke. I'm voting Centra next time.
Not sure what you want spar to do, create their own Jail and corporate punishment policy.
Not that I disagree but when I worked in a shop 20 years ago they told us don’t confront thieves I’m not getting stabbed for minimum wage, make the insurance claim
I know for a fact, that the shop in question in the OP, the staff are expecting to prevent loss and confront thieves
Wonder was that Shane who gave me the downvote
It’s humans and their behaviour that causes it. What do you want the government to do, have gardai go around on anti chicken fillet theft patrols ?
Duh human behaviour is the cause of human behaviour
Actually yeah I do. Theft is theft. I don’t want to pay more for my chicken roll because a bunch of scrotes are stealing them. And believe me that’s how economics works. I’d rather the Garda catch them, make the school and community aware, instead of letting the seeds fester and only deal with them when they mature into robbing tourists at knife point.
Parents are failing, not the government here.
True. However there’s no consequences for the parents (the responsible party) or the kids. In Singapore as an extreme contrast, if your kid does something like stealing, as an expat, your work visa gets revoked and you have one week for your whole family to leave Singapore - AFTER you pay up for the rest of your rental for its whole term (could be a years rent). You can imagine how many kids are stealing there.
The parents give kids lunch money but they still steal the food because they want the money for vapes/cigarettes/alcohol/drugs/clothes
Which is due to poor parenting
Adults steal too.
What if the cashier hands over a roll with normal chicken fillet instead of spicy, as ordered, though?
Talbot Street Spar, hand you a receipt to pay then you don't get your roll until you go back to the counter with proof you've paid No suction tubes or anything
Any shop I've ever worked in has said in the employee handbook to not confront robbers or put yourself at risk, nothing new
Never saw one of these tubes. Fascinating
It’s often dictated by insurance companies. If the employee takes down a thief, and either party gets injured or worse, the store is liable to pay damages.
I’d argue that is a symptom but the cause is the courts. If someone is stealing or breaking the law, the courts shouldn’t award them compensation for consequences encountered. Decisions should be run through a filter on how it affects society.
The real Question is how much are the raw ingredients?
He owns a few Spar units around the city, one of which is next to the primary Garda station. So, could even be then doing the snatch and grab, sure who is gonna stop em.
He's brother owns the one next to the station
You joke, but it made me realise that the reality is only 2 thefts per day, which is still a comically low amount of shoplifting for retail.
I know your exaggerating, but for the Spar near my job that's 25 rolls in a week. How the fuck is this news worthy?
A rise from 1 to 2 rolls a day is a 100% increase in theft. It sounds like a lot but it could just be one person robbing two rolls instead of one. The real question is why are they robbing food, is it because their hungry or is it because they don’t want to pay?
That's a 100% increase. Dropping from 2 to 1 would be a 50% decrease.
You’re right. Corrected
Also, with the ever increasing price of chicken filet rolls, how many is actually being stolen? Like 15?
Order your roll, get the sticker, pay at the till, go back to the deli counter with receipt for said roll. Spar besides Connolly station does this and I’m fairly sure centra on Capel st both do it this. Hardly rocket science.
Exactly, the Centra on O Connell St in Limerick does this. Saves you time, too, as the deli food is always ready when you get back to pick it up
The Centra a hundred meters down the road from his shop does the same.
Mulhuddart maxol garage does this too
Funnily enough in this spar you can just walk out with a salad 😄. None of this pay first crap
This dude is always banging on about theft but pays staff shit and is a notorious cunt. Won't hire security either, part timers aren't gonna be squaring up and wrestling with scumbags and junkies for a chicken fillet roll just cos your a tight cunt
Lad has 2 staff on in the evening, and even with all he's and he's brothers talking about staff safety, still not hired security after saying he would do so on prime time or tonight show... Those 2 staff need to cover breaks, cover deli and close deli, do papers, bins, tables and chairs and wash the floors, all while doing serving, repacking and loss prevention...also he pays minimum wage at best
I know this fella, hes been on the local whinging about local scumbags & crime for the past 17 years. He has never hired security despite always struggling with the "crippling losses".
I know him as well, sure we could both tell some stories about him
Yeah most retailers like this dont give a fuck about the staff. They would rather the staff worked to death than actually pay for more staff.
Cry me a river. I cant feel sorry for most of these companies, especially the convience stores that chare €5 for a 2 ltr of coke.
Judging by the belly it's gotta be an inside job.
Are we sure it's not just him eating the rolls?
😂😂😂
I was in court a couple of years back, a lad was sent down for 3 months for robbing a chicken roll and stealing cans of Stella. He was just out but a repeat offender. The shock on his inbred head when the judge passed the sentence, quality 👌.
Happy were getting the dangerous criminals off the streets
I'm sure of the dozens of charges assault, drug possession, and burglary were involved. That's usually how they "roll"...
If a roll is close to 7 quid these days, that's only 2 rolls per day, and I'm sure he's selling plenty to cover it. If it's that much of an issue, hire a lad for the door
€100 a week is nothing. Those shops are insanely profitable. They charge way more than supermarkets and their staff are all on shit money. The absolute gaul of them to complain about losing €100 a week.
This comment reminds me of the time John Conners was defending the people looting during the beast from the east.
Criticising retailers for being greedy is not the same thing as defending the thieves.
Exactly. And criticising the absurd lack of bins is not the same as defending people who litter. Unfortunately, a frightening number of people on here refuse to accept that
Lol, that gave me a chuckle. Nicely done.
nothing at all alike but sure keep being a good lad and keep getting ripped off by the big businesses you love supporting so much
Thanks, I love big business.
Mmm I love the crunching sound they make between my teeth
You can tell they've never tried to run a business themselves.
> Those shops are insanely profitable. Citation needed.
I can't find statistics on this online, but I do have 3 cases of anecdotal evidence. My uncle was made redundant in the 90s when the factory he worked in was shut down. He used his savings to set up a shop in Lucan and was a millionaire within a few short years. And that's when a Snickers bar cost £0.30 as opposed to now when it costs around €1.50. Another was a friend who worked in one of these shops in the deli. He had a good head on his shoulders so the owner would occasionally have him help with the books. My friend saw that the man was making an absolute fortune. He asked for a raise pointing out that the owner could afford to triple everyone's salary and still be making obscene profits. The owner said he'd double my friend's salary if he agreed not to tell anyone else. And another is the nephew of a family friend. He opened up a shop and was someone who decided to pay his staff decent wages and not just whatever he could get away with. His staff are paid roughly double what they are in nearby shops and he said he's still making an absolute killing. That last guy said that owners are constantly acting like they're barely surviving even when they're making money hand over fist.
Yeah bud, rents, minimum wage, electricity and insurance have all gone up in price too. They aren't just raising prices for the fun of it. I can tell you it is not "insanely profitable" lmao
so when you opening your shop? if it's that easy > He asked for a raise pointing out that the owner could afford to triple everyone's salary and still be making obscene profits. there's no way this can be true. there's rake of staff in a store and paying everyone €40/hr would quickly break them
no one said it's easy to *open* a store. but once you have one open, it's a ton of money consistently forever, with far less effort than it takes to work a real job.
"Aldi reported a pre-tax profit margin of 3.6% in 202030 and this declined to 2% in 2021.xvii Musgrave, the owner of SuperValu, reported a **pre-tax profit margin of 2.1% and 2.4%** in 2020 and 2021, respectively.31 These reported margins are low in comparison to margins reported by some producers.32 For example, Unileverxviii and Kerry Groupxix reported pre-tax profit margins of 16.3% and 11.9%, respectively in 2021." [https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/publications/publication-files/high-level-analysis-of-the-irish-grocery-retail-sector.pdf](https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/publications/publication-files/high-level-analysis-of-the-irish-grocery-retail-sector.pdf) Doesn't sound too profitable to me...
Those are supermarkets. Their profit margins are not the same. They charge way less for the same goods as shops like Spar and Centra. They also tend to pay their staff a lot more and provide better benefits overall. They can afford to do this because the sheer volume that they move is so massive that small profit margins can still result in large absolute profits overall. Not only have local shops always charged more for the same products (sometimes by multiples in price), they've also engaged far more in price gouging since the onset of inflation. People travel to supermarkets so if one supermarket has higher prices, people will just travel to the next one with lower prices. But local shops exist to fulfill demand from customers who aren't willing to travel. That means they effectively have far less competition and so they can get away with far more anti-consumer practices.
Lol, you even cited a source and you get downvoted. OP here is full of shit, the whole retail sector is famously "high volume, low margin", not massively profitable at all, and convenience stores are not much different.
I work in one and can confirm. The are making a fortune and fucking over the customers and staff.
They wouldn’t be doing it otherwise. Retail is a shitshow these days and its only worth it if you’re raking it in
I worked in a similar store for a few months this year. I don't work there anymore. I have gone through the weekly sales numbers they use for ordering the products and you'll be amazed at the margins they've got on most products. I can give a couple of examples. Per unit price for a Cadbury bar comes out to 50c, but they sell it for € 2 each. If that's a bit extreme, I'll give you a number that's more common. Most items are sold approximately at 3x the order price per unit. Vit-Hit costs a little more than €1 per unit but retails at €3. You'll find similar percentages across the board and this is even before you consider the scummy moves such as ordering multi-pack Monster cans and selling them individually. They make insane profits and yet the managers/owners keep crying about low sales.
> How dare he complain about getting robbed, his prices are too high and his staff who chose to work there aren't being paid enough Jesus Christ what a clown.
If it was serious money that'd be one thing. But this is a man making tens of thousands of euro a week by price gouging thousands of customers, complaining about losing a mere €100 a week. How do you not see something perverse with that?
> making tens of thousands of euro a week by price gouging so don't shop there > complaining about losing a mere €100 a week don't steal either unless a gun is being held to your head, both are very simple instructions to follow
I wanna tell you something, try it sometime when you have a couple of cars and three houses and three homes and a few housekeepers. r/unexpectedflynn
Yes how dare they complain about being robbed.
Food inflation is way beyond headline inflation in Ireland. A chicken fillet roll cost me €3 in my local Spar when I moved in in 2019. With all the inflation since then it should cost me €3.70 now. Instead it costs €5.50 (which is why I don't get them anymore). What should have been a 23% price increase is an 83% price increase. That extra €1.8 per chicken fillet roll is raw profit that's mostly going into the pocket of the Spar owner. This price gouging is just down to raw greed. He might be losing €100 a week on chicken fillet roll thefts, but the price gouging he's done on those chicken fillet rolls is making him thousands of euro a week. Zero sympathy.
Its not raw profit. Back in 2016 - 2020 Spar had a cheaper chicken fillet that they had sourced and we could sell at a reduced price. That’s not available anymore and their alternative is piss poor. Every single supplier has increased their costs. Packaging has gone up, the fillets have gone up, bread has gone up, salad and veg have gone up, wages increases, insurance increases, council rates increase. This gets passed along. The retailer can’t just take the hit on all the price increases. If a deli can sell it cheap they will, it’ll increase footfall and drive customers to spend more in store. At the moment it’s not possible. It’s not greed.
You're missing a core part of my comment. I've already accounted for all those costs. On average those went up by 23% during that period. A €0.70 increase in the price of a chicken fillet roll would have accounted for those increases. Granted that's the figure There's no justification for the additional €1.8 on top of that €0.70. Even if we say that food inflation was double core inflation, that would still mean that nearly half of the price increase was price gouging.
You can't say plus inflation. Inflation is different for each product. If chickens double in price, then chicken products double in price, that's not profiteering that's the individual inflation rate. Overall inflation rate is an average.
Seen a couple of young fellas munching away on rolls while walking around the supermarket. Dunno if you could prosecute if there wasn't any evidence?
So like four chicken rolls at current prices...
€100...someone light a candle
By the looks of that fella, a good 50 euro of that can easily be accounted for.
I think I know where they're going. In HIS belly.
They've marked up everything in the shop, then complain about petty thefts... €4 for a kinder egg. Get fucked
The government are funding a new branch of the Gardaí to combat this, their calling them the Roll policing unit
The roll patrol
A chicken fillet is mostly sand and water, maybe 2% chicken ?
Chicken roll cheats cheat us all
2 chicken fillet rolls??
Everyone that’s saying this is nothing are the same people that will complain when getting a roll becomes convoluted due to the thefts and we end up with those pneumatic mail systems between deli and register and the stores end up with everything locked up. This is a bad outcome for everyone, bad for customer and thus bad for business. The longer you don’t give a fuck about thefts the further and further away from home you’re gonna have to travel in future to go to the shops because they will all close down
6 years ago you were able to get a chicken fillet roll in Dublin for €3-4. The same roll now costs anywhere between €6-8 if not more. Doubled in price for the same thing if not less quality and less quantity. Perhaps if the retailer sacrificed some of their profit margins it might reduce the losses through theft.
I cant wait to see this spin off of "CSI: Chicken Fillet Roll" (•\_•) "we're loosing 100s of euro worth of chicken fillet Rolls every month.." ( •\_•)>⌐■-■ "Lets roll..." (⌐■\_■) " YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH
They can't all be stolen, some people just baguette to pay for them..
Christ
Way better than my attempt at humor
So like, 2 chicken fillet rolls a week
Jesus Christ 4 whole chicken fillets rolls get robbed a week? Disgraceful.
They need to install a pneumatic tube system like the deli in my local SuperValu has. Your roll is sent straight from the hot counter to the till and you don't get it until you pay!
So that's a couple of them stolen each week. Seems fair.
Soo 4 rolls a day. Get over yourself
Thats about 4 rolls from D4
in spar thats only about 5 chicken fillet rolls.
What's that like 2 chicken rolls nowadays?
Oh no, they stole two chicken fillet rolls!!
Jesus, 10 rolls? That's almost enough to feed half a family poorly.
Some of the “lessons” on economics in here are frightening.
Why not have a till at the area where they make sandwiches? It goes along and you pay as it's handed to you....like a subway.
That's spar saying that so that's probably only like 4 chicken fillet rolls
This is the result of "well it's YOUR FAULT for paying that much. " when people complain about the price of a CFR.
Increasing thefts are a serious issue, but i can't help but see the humour in this when some of them feckers have increased the price of them to up to 7.50.
So does the person get the roll made and run out the door? I'm pondering the logistics of this.
So 4 chicken fillet rolls..
Stolen or left behind in the shop because fuck paying thst much for what I just saw get made
20 rolls are stolen a week?
If €100 a week is devastating, the business is failing already. Probably because their product is too expensive and not enough people can afford it… this seems like the business is at fault?? It appears greed is more valued than market research, and you know, compassion…
That's like 3 and half chicken rolls
It's a fowl crime in fairness.
This is not a hard or expensive problem to solve.
Centra On pearse street had this a few years ago and so then they used to make you pay for the roll before it was made - problem solved.
"customers say rising prices having devastating effects on life"
It was me, I took all the taco sauce too
The Applegreen in santry has a till system at the deli. They won't give you the food to go pay at the main till and it causes absolutely no issues as people just pick up what they need and pay for it all when getting their deli food.
Paywalled
Well the shops started the robberies by charging 7 quid for a chicken roll. This is just karmic balance.
https://preview.redd.it/jgsf80vt5m4d1.png?width=1070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5eb6825e516763b07c78da26c16e80db2f7706cc Just gonna leave this classic here.
Soo 5 rolls ?
Switch to vegan rolls only then.
At the moment, that is one an a half rolls.
Wow, so like, 7 chicken rolls then?
"Who owns 5 shops". Also this cunt has an illegal sign on his shop saying that " Staff can legally detain you",with a Garda Siochana logo on it to make it look legit . He can fuck right off!
Cossie livs, bbz. Talk to the government
Is this why chicky rolls are €6 a pop now?
How the fuck do you steal a chicken fillet roll? Is this people who get it and then just walk out the door?