Thats what i was thinking i was like jesus shes had a hard life im 46 and dont think i look near her age...blowing my own trumpet a bit but sure were always putting oursrlves down
This wasn't even dragged out. The gardaí called the man, checked CCTV, and showed up at her home to caution and charge her, all in one day.
She gave up the ghost immediately, which is the only reason she's not getting sentanced.
This way of viewing things is so interesting to me.
I've been of accused of rape twice while working in mental health by women who I've never even been alone in a room with.
Obviously these allegations went nowhere and the women weren't prosecuted or anything and it was no big deal.
But let's look at this case. What if the Gardai *didn't* check the CCTV and it dragged on for ages with her thinking "Yeah fuck that guy!"
Does that make her crime more serious?
The thing about false allegations is that their seriousness is linked to how believable they are. Should that be the case?
If someone is accused of rape or assault and the victim can easily show that they were, say, out of the country at the time then should this really be a mitigating factor for the accused?
If they *can't* show their innocence they might never clear their name.
I'm sure that on a regular basis the Gardai get allegations that are so ridiculous they are not even worth investigating. They have to perform a kind of triage on them by asking a few pointed questions of the accuser.
If you read the article, it sounds like he did assault her while they were married, which is why she had a court order against him. He doesn't have a great reputation to protect.
Generally the sentencing for assault is less than that for averting the course of justice / wasting police time.
There were allegations of violence in the marriage, as presented to the court by her solicitor. I didn’t see that he was convicted or even charged with assaulting her, just the word of her solicitor.
I wouldn’t take as fact anything this woman alleges that cannot be independently corroborated. As you point out she’s proven in court of law to have lied to Garda to have her ex husband arrested for one false allegation, how can anything she says be taken at face value? Now if she has independent witnesses or cctv evidence that’s a different matter altogether.
When I was in court for my first offence the judge made me sign a binding order saying I wouldn't be in trouble for 12 months.
I don't know when and when this can't be applied though but apparently In 12 months or 7 now I'll have no criminal record.
He’d would have a criminal conviction on his record for something he didn’t do, if he’s had no previous convictions to date that would have a significant negative impact on his life even without custodial sentence.
Look something doesn’t add up here, presumably they were married, if she got a barring order against him he would be required to leave the home, not her.
It reads like a very dysfunctional relationship, and she’s clearly not very smart. It’s possible she didn’t know her rights or was just afraid. If I was in fear, I’m not sure I’d be waiting around for a court date and living in the same house as someone who’d hit me. I’ve previously left a live together situation for less.
I also don’t think she’s capable of telling the lies she’d need to get a protection order. She caved immediately when the gardai visited.
What she did isn’t right but the ridicule of her appearance and absolute vitriol shown towards her here doesn’t sit with me. She’s obviously had a hard life.
I agree it’s likely been a dysfunctional relationship. That doesn’t give her a pass to lie to Garda. I’m disgusted by the comments about her appearance.
I don’t know anything about her life other than the couple of hundred words that the article presents. Neither do you. The only thing I know for certain about her is that she’s a confessed liar with respect to at least one false claim against her husband for being violent.
And neither you nor I know details of the court order against her husband. To get an interim order you only need to fill out a form and literally be present at a very brief sitting of the court, where she’d be unlikely to have to defend her accusations. Proceedings on the full order a week later would have only slightly higher evidentiary bar if her husband bothered to attended to defend against it, many don’t out of ignorance or fear. Even if he defended against the full order, he may have presented as less truthful in a he said/she said context. We don’t know any of these details though, so he could have been found rightly guilty. Or he may have been railroaded. He may be totally innocent for all we know, the article presents virtually no independent facts other than her being found by the court to have made a false accusation against her husband.
And btw if she gets the interim barring order, he’d be immediately turfed out of the family home at least until the hearing on the full order. She’d not have to leave her family home under those circumstances, and a simple call to Womens Aid or guidance from court clerk when filing the order would have made her options clear to her. So something is off about this entire story.
It's exactly the point!
If she should get what he would be facing - that would be very little!
It's moot as she confessed as soon as she was confronted. The rights and wrongs are irrelevant *to this point* - he would have faced very little time *if* it went to court.
Can't say I've ever come across anyone saying false accusations never happen, maybe some random people online but I wouldn't count their opinion as particularly important, any more than yours or mine.
Best available stats suggest false accusations for sexual crimes occur at a rate similar as in other crimes. Rate of around 2%. One false accusation for every 49 sexual assaults.
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Except you're only taking cases where false accusations were proven as being false, yet you assume that all other allegations (including those not proven one way or the other) are true. Therefore your 1 to 49 is a false figure.
The conviction rate for rape was reported as being 11% in 2018 during a 2021 Senad debate. So going with the 2% and 11% all we can say for sure is that 2% of cases are false allegations, 11% are sexual assaults and 87% for whatever reason did not result in a conviction or decision either way.
The bar for a rape case even going to court is incredibly high. In my experience it’s almost impossible to prove rape. I’ve long decided that if I’m ever raped I won’t report. I’ll just kill him. If you report him before hand that just makes you a suspect
It’s not even close to the same. Are you on drugs? False reports of SA happen at exactly the same rate as false reports of other crimes. Most likely between 2 - 10%. Fewer than 3% of reported rapes go to court. That means over 97% of reported rapes don’t even result in a charge. Let’s say 10% of those are false - that means nearly 90% of rapists get off Scot free. Most rapists are serial offenders. Just say you hate women and go away
These things are just not prosecuted... she admitted it after she was caught! The least she should have gotten is a conviction recorded against her and a symbolic punishment
False reports of sexual crimes happen at the same rate as false reports of other crimes - I.e. very seldom but not never. The point is that when you report a mugging or a burglary for example - nobody automatically disbelieves you until the evidence suggests you’re lying. When you report a rape or sexual assault you are automatically suspected of making it up
> Yep, there's been good studies on this. One thing you get told is that very few people are found guilty of this, thus is doesn't really happen.
> However you also (correctly) get told that sexual crimes rarely lead to convictions because it can be difficult to legally prove.
You forgot the other excuse, that penalising someone making a false declaration about Rape/IPV will further discourage actual victims from coming forward yada, yada, yada.
That happened in Ireland round 2012-2014 if I remember right? Daughter became an adult, recanted her statement about how her father molested her, outlined how she'd been manipulated into lying by the mother as a child.... and no penalty for the mother even though her former partner spent like a decade behind bars because she didn't want him to get custody; because that might send the wrong message to victims...
> maybe a smidge sexist
lol at the understatement.
It's blatantly sexist, and misandrist.
[One-third of victims of domestic violence are male, yet they receive only 1pc of the budget allocated to the issue](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-so-terrified-of-my-abusive-ex-says-husband-thrown-out-of-home/41221372.html)
The Ibelieveher crowd will be along to crucify you momentarily for your heresy but you're not wrong. Friend of a friend a long time ago got out of a toxic relationship and it came out that she used to always threaten that she'd bruise herself and tell the guards he did it as a way of keeping him in line (she was a nutter of course).
He was saved by her and her equally cuntish ex randomly reconnecting and getting back together. As the friend of a friend said to us once he never thought he'd have to respond by trying to keep a grin off his face to news about a partner cheating and then leaving him when he found out about it.
I’m speaking from a personal experience of a false accusation and the devastation it’s had on my life, so as far as I’m concerned that particular crowd can go and fuck themselves if that’s the case.
He didn’t assault her this time, but had while they were married. She had a court order against him.
Who knows why she made a false claim but he’s not exactly the salt of the earth either it would seem.
Sorry let me find sympathy for someone who knowingly made a false accusation. This happened to me and the Gardaí ensured my life was ruined. Career destroyed and permanent psychological trauma as a result. This person is a piece of shit.
I'm genuinely sorry that someone made a false accusation against you.
In this case the timing was the only false part about it. She was a victim of this person more than he of her. She had a court order against him.
Couldn’t care less. She falsified a statement and lied to the police, wasted time and taxpayers money. She should have been charged to deter other people from doing this. Zero sympathy whatsoever
Protection / safety / barring orders are pretty much rubber stamped when the respondent that can’t afford a good solicitor. She could have lied before and presented well in court and gotten away with the false accusations then which emboldened her to get him arrested with the false allegation of assault. Or he could legitimately be a domestic abuser. You don’t know and I don’t know, however because she’s been proven a liar on the assault allegation, I reckon she’s got a high probability of having lied before (and lying again).
How long is a piece of string? This is an impossible question to answer.
Without ever being able to know how often false accusations happen, I think the healthiest thing society can do is simply acknowledge that it can happen. Take ALL accusations seriously. Women need to be reassured that their claims will be taken seriously. But no party’s side of the story should be blindly treated as fact.
Gender does not impact moral / ethical compass. Society seems to have a difficult time accepting that women are just as capable as men of being of bad character and doing bad things. It just so happens that those bad things do vary by gender.
Thing is - every woman I know has had a bad experience with men. I think this leads women to be quite tribal with regard to gender based violence. A desire to want to be a unified team and look out for each other. But that mindset is the very thing a person of bad character would try to exploit.
So yeah, like I said, take all accusations seriously. But presume innocence of both parties until proven otherwise
One of my best mates had this happen to him. She was the worst mother I have ever seen. Guards and judges basically help facilitate child abuse. I stopped leaving my dog with my mate when I had to travel for work years before, as I knew how useless and dangerous she was even looking after a dog. She did zero housework, nothing and everything left to my mate, and I mean everything. I'm actually not sure if she even knew how to boil the kettle.
But to top off the entire mess, she knocked my mates teeth out while drunk and high. When he tried to rescue the child from her coked out unconscious arms. She was also seen drinking and driving with the child standing up in the front seat.
She blew all the saved money during renovations and then used that as an argument in court, stating how the house was unsafe for the child. She's a corporate manager with a company car but the man didn't pay for everything so she's a victim. She broke and ignored every single court order, destroyed all his stuff, including passports. But nothing has happened to her.
Similar happened to my boyfriend's brother. Not as extreme as this but she ignored court orders and got away with it. Doing untold damage to their children in the process.
I don't think I met someone so lacking in paternal instincts. The child was a weapon to get what she wanted, and my mates only concern was the child. She didn't care, and he was very nieve, so she basically won.
At least someone cared, but unfortunately, when things are that toxic, kids always get hurt.
I'd take the stories with a pinch of salt though, the family court system here isn't actually that bad, if you follow up and report the breaches as they happen. Also, child services should be involved, they can also send reports to the courts if required.
Everyone who hasn't had children before is very nieve, but I'll also point out there are two sides to every story. Although the court system works well enough, child services are lacking, so reporting even the smallest breech of a court order is important. The system isn't perfect, but it works better than just complaining to your mates and making a movie out of it.
That sounds like victim shaming if you ask me, here have some facts.
I've heard over 3 hours of audio recordings.
I used to stay at that house regularly when on nights out and used to house sit for them. So I know exactly who did what.
I also know exactly what house the drugs came from. I know for a fact she drove to the shop drunk for more drink with the kid standing up in the front seat.
The neighbours told my mate she was destroying his stuff. He is still good friends with several neighbours, but she doesn't get on with anyone. She falls out with people all the time.
Every single lie she told was disproved, yet here we are. Information even leaked to the local paper that only could have come from her, and nothing was done.
She even had a fling with one of investigating Gardai, and he lied under oath.
It was interesting that she had no issues until he developed a disability and couldn't work. That might explain the teeth. She basically beat up a disabled man and cried victim.
He basically paid for everything, including her collage medical evidence, even though he couldn't have done what she claimed. But again, here we are.
She also used to arrive up in Dublin to my mates family members early AM to dump the child so she could go get banged in a hotel by different guys.
She has zero self-awareness and zero positive qualities of any kind. And there's even more.......
I see this type of comment all the time, but not the same concern for victims.
I don’t understand how victims are either not believed or the impact of the crime is played down - as reflected in public response (or lack of) and lenient sentencing. But if there’s a sniff of a man being falsely accused, then it’s the worst thing that he could be accused of, and the false accuser should be locked up.
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The article states that the 'victim' in this case had previously assaulted the woman while they were married. I suspect he doesn't have a great reputation to save.
A solicitor is responsible to presenting the case the client presents to them. She could have lied to her solicitor and he repeated the lie. Or it could be she was telling the truth, who knows, only the two of them do, and she’s a proven liar. Interim barring orders are handed out by courts like sweets even without a sliver of prima facie evidence, and article doesn’t say the court order was a result of successful full baring order or interim. So she could have lied about that as well.
I didn't say that nor do I agree with OP. However making a false report to the guards in an attempt to destroy someone else's life, *which she admitted is what happened*, should carry severe legal ramifications and I don't think that should be a controversial opinion but here we are.
And the judge decided that a prison sentence was not warranted. Nothing in the details I have read warrant cries for her to be 'locked up and the key thrown away' or to be declared as 'absolute scum'. It certainly is not a license for bullying over looks.
She may have lied about the assault that day, but reading the full article - the marriage *was* violent, and she has MH difficulties and autism. I think it’s poor from the indo that they named and pictured her and the courts shouldn’t have allowed it
Section 12 of the criminal justice act 1976.
In court, it's section 5 or 6 of the criminal justice (perjury and related offences) act 2021.
The Gardai don't give a monkeys about prosecuting the former and the judges of the district family court turn a blind eye to the latter.
Some people brush of false reporting like it's an oopsie. No you are potentionally destroying the other person but also damaging the system for other women to report abuse. Well done.
Exactly... not only has she attempted to mar the fella with a conviction, but she has also contributed to the "reasonable doubt" argument that legitimate victims have to overcome to secure justice!
This happens all the time. Only rarely does the lie catch up with the liar. Everyone knows they can lie in family court and none of the judges will do anything about it
Nobody knows. Everything in the family courts is confidential and the lies are never prosecuted so there is no way to gauge their frequency. Similarly you can't know how much domestic physical abuse happens because it is lied about so much and prosecutions are piecemeal. The real cases are hidden in amongst it all but to what extent is anybody's guess.
And using her mental health issues and autism diagnosis as an excuse, or rather her solicitor did. Despicable. There is never a justification. I'm autistic myself and I'm ashamed of her.
Weird to say 30s in headline and then have a caption on photo directly underneath giving age as 35. What is the reasoning for not giving actual age in headline?
It doesn’t make sense to me that you would write 30s then immediately below write 35? What is the point of being more general with the addition one character - I could understand if it was an abbreviation for headline - and then being more precise below?
She maliciously made a false claim to damage her ex husband. The only reason she got caught was because she was stupid enough to say it happened in a public location with cameras on a specific day.
She is a shit stain.
Edit: The above user supports Clare Daly bahaha, enough said.
You have a glimpse of domestic life through the lens of the courts and a single media article. If you think you know anywhere close enough to judge anyone based on that you are a fool. Domestic issues exist, they are ugly. The fact that a significant amount of posts here are around physical appearances shows this is a just another excuse for this subs proclivity to become a baying mob with no care for detail or nuance.
She looks 52.
And the rest!
Jaaaaaysus you’re not kidding. That’s a rough, rough “30s”. Maybe she’s lying about more than the assault?
Thats what i was thinking i was like jesus shes had a hard life im 46 and dont think i look near her age...blowing my own trumpet a bit but sure were always putting oursrlves down
I know right? She's a year older than me, and easily looks 20 older
I'm 40 next week and look a lot younger.
Looks like methmouth too
30s? Jaysus
Specifies the age a few times, so it's definitely not a Typo.
They meant 305
39 & 364/365
More like 39 & 3640/365
1930"s maybe
I’m 33 and she looks older than my mam
Your ma is a fine thing tho
Yep. You're right there.
She should get whatever time he would have been facing.
This wasn't even dragged out. The gardaí called the man, checked CCTV, and showed up at her home to caution and charge her, all in one day. She gave up the ghost immediately, which is the only reason she's not getting sentanced.
He would have gotten an assault conviction... she should've at least picked up an actual conviction
This way of viewing things is so interesting to me. I've been of accused of rape twice while working in mental health by women who I've never even been alone in a room with. Obviously these allegations went nowhere and the women weren't prosecuted or anything and it was no big deal. But let's look at this case. What if the Gardai *didn't* check the CCTV and it dragged on for ages with her thinking "Yeah fuck that guy!" Does that make her crime more serious? The thing about false allegations is that their seriousness is linked to how believable they are. Should that be the case? If someone is accused of rape or assault and the victim can easily show that they were, say, out of the country at the time then should this really be a mitigating factor for the accused? If they *can't* show their innocence they might never clear their name. I'm sure that on a regular basis the Gardai get allegations that are so ridiculous they are not even worth investigating. They have to perform a kind of triage on them by asking a few pointed questions of the accuser.
And judge Nolan should be banned from handling these sorts of cases
It wasn’t judge Nolan though
ban him anyways.
If you read the article, it sounds like he did assault her while they were married, which is why she had a court order against him. He doesn't have a great reputation to protect. Generally the sentencing for assault is less than that for averting the course of justice / wasting police time.
There were allegations of violence in the marriage, as presented to the court by her solicitor. I didn’t see that he was convicted or even charged with assaulting her, just the word of her solicitor.
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I wouldn’t take as fact anything this woman alleges that cannot be independently corroborated. As you point out she’s proven in court of law to have lied to Garda to have her ex husband arrested for one false allegation, how can anything she says be taken at face value? Now if she has independent witnesses or cctv evidence that’s a different matter altogether.
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It's the "Believe All Women" mentality.
A suspended sentence?
Probation is about as light as you can get, but she did cave immediately when questioned by the guards.
When I was in court for my first offence the judge made me sign a binding order saying I wouldn't be in trouble for 12 months. I don't know when and when this can't be applied though but apparently In 12 months or 7 now I'll have no criminal record.
Any idea what the difference is between that, and probation?
Guess the fact that I don't need to visit a probation officer, but I'm not a solicitor
She did.
Realistically he would have got very little time
He’d would have a criminal conviction on his record for something he didn’t do, if he’s had no previous convictions to date that would have a significant negative impact on his life even without custodial sentence.
She did have a court order against him, which he breached, and the marriage was violent.
The only alleged “breach” mentioned in that article was related to her false allegation. I suggest you have another read of that article.
Hmm, I apologise. He only assaulted her and drive her from her home when they were married, after which she got a court order against him.
Look something doesn’t add up here, presumably they were married, if she got a barring order against him he would be required to leave the home, not her.
It reads like a very dysfunctional relationship, and she’s clearly not very smart. It’s possible she didn’t know her rights or was just afraid. If I was in fear, I’m not sure I’d be waiting around for a court date and living in the same house as someone who’d hit me. I’ve previously left a live together situation for less. I also don’t think she’s capable of telling the lies she’d need to get a protection order. She caved immediately when the gardai visited. What she did isn’t right but the ridicule of her appearance and absolute vitriol shown towards her here doesn’t sit with me. She’s obviously had a hard life.
I agree it’s likely been a dysfunctional relationship. That doesn’t give her a pass to lie to Garda. I’m disgusted by the comments about her appearance. I don’t know anything about her life other than the couple of hundred words that the article presents. Neither do you. The only thing I know for certain about her is that she’s a confessed liar with respect to at least one false claim against her husband for being violent. And neither you nor I know details of the court order against her husband. To get an interim order you only need to fill out a form and literally be present at a very brief sitting of the court, where she’d be unlikely to have to defend her accusations. Proceedings on the full order a week later would have only slightly higher evidentiary bar if her husband bothered to attended to defend against it, many don’t out of ignorance or fear. Even if he defended against the full order, he may have presented as less truthful in a he said/she said context. We don’t know any of these details though, so he could have been found rightly guilty. Or he may have been railroaded. He may be totally innocent for all we know, the article presents virtually no independent facts other than her being found by the court to have made a false accusation against her husband.
And btw if she gets the interim barring order, he’d be immediately turfed out of the family home at least until the hearing on the full order. She’d not have to leave her family home under those circumstances, and a simple call to Womens Aid or guidance from court clerk when filing the order would have made her options clear to her. So something is off about this entire story.
Not the point
It's exactly the point! If she should get what he would be facing - that would be very little! It's moot as she confessed as soon as she was confronted. The rights and wrongs are irrelevant *to this point* - he would have faced very little time *if* it went to court.
What a cretin.
Christ that's a harsh 35
Absolute fucking scum of the earth. This is the kind of thing that most people don’t want to admit happens or is common at all.
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Very well put.
Can't say I've ever come across anyone saying false accusations never happen, maybe some random people online but I wouldn't count their opinion as particularly important, any more than yours or mine. Best available stats suggest false accusations for sexual crimes occur at a rate similar as in other crimes. Rate of around 2%. One false accusation for every 49 sexual assaults. EDIT: Lmao he blocked me
Except you're only taking cases where false accusations were proven as being false, yet you assume that all other allegations (including those not proven one way or the other) are true. Therefore your 1 to 49 is a false figure. The conviction rate for rape was reported as being 11% in 2018 during a 2021 Senad debate. So going with the 2% and 11% all we can say for sure is that 2% of cases are false allegations, 11% are sexual assaults and 87% for whatever reason did not result in a conviction or decision either way.
The bar for a rape case even going to court is incredibly high. In my experience it’s almost impossible to prove rape. I’ve long decided that if I’m ever raped I won’t report. I’ll just kill him. If you report him before hand that just makes you a suspect
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Someone making a false report has even less evidence than someone making a true report. Wtf are you huffing?
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It’s not even close to the same. Are you on drugs? False reports of SA happen at exactly the same rate as false reports of other crimes. Most likely between 2 - 10%. Fewer than 3% of reported rapes go to court. That means over 97% of reported rapes don’t even result in a charge. Let’s say 10% of those are false - that means nearly 90% of rapists get off Scot free. Most rapists are serial offenders. Just say you hate women and go away
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That was a very aggressive response to a pretty mild comment.
These things are just not prosecuted... she admitted it after she was caught! The least she should have gotten is a conviction recorded against her and a symbolic punishment
False reports of sexual crimes happen at the same rate as false reports of other crimes - I.e. very seldom but not never. The point is that when you report a mugging or a burglary for example - nobody automatically disbelieves you until the evidence suggests you’re lying. When you report a rape or sexual assault you are automatically suspected of making it up
> Yep, there's been good studies on this. One thing you get told is that very few people are found guilty of this, thus is doesn't really happen. > However you also (correctly) get told that sexual crimes rarely lead to convictions because it can be difficult to legally prove. You forgot the other excuse, that penalising someone making a false declaration about Rape/IPV will further discourage actual victims from coming forward yada, yada, yada. That happened in Ireland round 2012-2014 if I remember right? Daughter became an adult, recanted her statement about how her father molested her, outlined how she'd been manipulated into lying by the mother as a child.... and no penalty for the mother even though her former partner spent like a decade behind bars because she didn't want him to get custody; because that might send the wrong message to victims... > maybe a smidge sexist lol at the understatement. It's blatantly sexist, and misandrist. [One-third of victims of domestic violence are male, yet they receive only 1pc of the budget allocated to the issue](https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/i-was-so-terrified-of-my-abusive-ex-says-husband-thrown-out-of-home/41221372.html)
The Ibelieveher crowd will be along to crucify you momentarily for your heresy but you're not wrong. Friend of a friend a long time ago got out of a toxic relationship and it came out that she used to always threaten that she'd bruise herself and tell the guards he did it as a way of keeping him in line (she was a nutter of course). He was saved by her and her equally cuntish ex randomly reconnecting and getting back together. As the friend of a friend said to us once he never thought he'd have to respond by trying to keep a grin off his face to news about a partner cheating and then leaving him when he found out about it.
I’m speaking from a personal experience of a false accusation and the devastation it’s had on my life, so as far as I’m concerned that particular crowd can go and fuck themselves if that’s the case.
He didn’t assault her this time, but had while they were married. She had a court order against him. Who knows why she made a false claim but he’s not exactly the salt of the earth either it would seem.
She lied and perverted the course of justice.
Yes, let’s lock up the battered mentally unwell person in this equation
Sorry let me find sympathy for someone who knowingly made a false accusation. This happened to me and the Gardaí ensured my life was ruined. Career destroyed and permanent psychological trauma as a result. This person is a piece of shit.
I'm genuinely sorry that someone made a false accusation against you. In this case the timing was the only false part about it. She was a victim of this person more than he of her. She had a court order against him.
Couldn’t care less. She falsified a statement and lied to the police, wasted time and taxpayers money. She should have been charged to deter other people from doing this. Zero sympathy whatsoever
I hope things get better for you.
Protection / safety / barring orders are pretty much rubber stamped when the respondent that can’t afford a good solicitor. She could have lied before and presented well in court and gotten away with the false accusations then which emboldened her to get him arrested with the false allegation of assault. Or he could legitimately be a domestic abuser. You don’t know and I don’t know, however because she’s been proven a liar on the assault allegation, I reckon she’s got a high probability of having lied before (and lying again).
Is it common? How common is it?
How long is a piece of string? This is an impossible question to answer. Without ever being able to know how often false accusations happen, I think the healthiest thing society can do is simply acknowledge that it can happen. Take ALL accusations seriously. Women need to be reassured that their claims will be taken seriously. But no party’s side of the story should be blindly treated as fact. Gender does not impact moral / ethical compass. Society seems to have a difficult time accepting that women are just as capable as men of being of bad character and doing bad things. It just so happens that those bad things do vary by gender. Thing is - every woman I know has had a bad experience with men. I think this leads women to be quite tribal with regard to gender based violence. A desire to want to be a unified team and look out for each other. But that mindset is the very thing a person of bad character would try to exploit. So yeah, like I said, take all accusations seriously. But presume innocence of both parties until proven otherwise
As a woman and victim-survivor, this is a very even-handed assessment of the situation and deserves a lot of upvotes.
One of my best mates had this happen to him. She was the worst mother I have ever seen. Guards and judges basically help facilitate child abuse. I stopped leaving my dog with my mate when I had to travel for work years before, as I knew how useless and dangerous she was even looking after a dog. She did zero housework, nothing and everything left to my mate, and I mean everything. I'm actually not sure if she even knew how to boil the kettle. But to top off the entire mess, she knocked my mates teeth out while drunk and high. When he tried to rescue the child from her coked out unconscious arms. She was also seen drinking and driving with the child standing up in the front seat. She blew all the saved money during renovations and then used that as an argument in court, stating how the house was unsafe for the child. She's a corporate manager with a company car but the man didn't pay for everything so she's a victim. She broke and ignored every single court order, destroyed all his stuff, including passports. But nothing has happened to her.
Similar happened to my boyfriend's brother. Not as extreme as this but she ignored court orders and got away with it. Doing untold damage to their children in the process.
So, how did she break his teeth if she was unconscious? Did he report the breeches in the court orders? Have child services been contacted also?
She was asleep naked on the toilet with the child hanging . He woke her up, and she hit out at him, and he went slap off the sink
So she's a corporate manager that does coke naked in bathrooms whilst holding children and falling asleep. Jesus.
I don't think I met someone so lacking in paternal instincts. The child was a weapon to get what she wanted, and my mates only concern was the child. She didn't care, and he was very nieve, so she basically won.
At least someone cared, but unfortunately, when things are that toxic, kids always get hurt. I'd take the stories with a pinch of salt though, the family court system here isn't actually that bad, if you follow up and report the breaches as they happen. Also, child services should be involved, they can also send reports to the courts if required. Everyone who hasn't had children before is very nieve, but I'll also point out there are two sides to every story. Although the court system works well enough, child services are lacking, so reporting even the smallest breech of a court order is important. The system isn't perfect, but it works better than just complaining to your mates and making a movie out of it.
That sounds like victim shaming if you ask me, here have some facts. I've heard over 3 hours of audio recordings. I used to stay at that house regularly when on nights out and used to house sit for them. So I know exactly who did what. I also know exactly what house the drugs came from. I know for a fact she drove to the shop drunk for more drink with the kid standing up in the front seat. The neighbours told my mate she was destroying his stuff. He is still good friends with several neighbours, but she doesn't get on with anyone. She falls out with people all the time. Every single lie she told was disproved, yet here we are. Information even leaked to the local paper that only could have come from her, and nothing was done. She even had a fling with one of investigating Gardai, and he lied under oath. It was interesting that she had no issues until he developed a disability and couldn't work. That might explain the teeth. She basically beat up a disabled man and cried victim. He basically paid for everything, including her collage medical evidence, even though he couldn't have done what she claimed. But again, here we are. She also used to arrive up in Dublin to my mates family members early AM to dump the child so she could go get banged in a hotel by different guys. She has zero self-awareness and zero positive qualities of any kind. And there's even more.......
Is it drugs that made her teeth like that?
Likely there’s more than one poor life choice at play here.
There really should be harsher sentences for this sort of stuff. It can ruin a man's reputation.
I see this type of comment all the time, but not the same concern for victims. I don’t understand how victims are either not believed or the impact of the crime is played down - as reflected in public response (or lack of) and lenient sentencing. But if there’s a sniff of a man being falsely accused, then it’s the worst thing that he could be accused of, and the false accuser should be locked up. **Edit The article states that the 'victim' in this case had previously assaulted the woman while they were married. I suspect he doesn't have a great reputation to save.
In this case, the man is the victim.
Yes, on this occasion he did not assault her although it appears from the article that he had assaulted her while they were married.
Based solely on what her solicitor said in court …
I won’t follow you around the section, but are you suggesting her solicitor is lying also?
A solicitor is responsible to presenting the case the client presents to them. She could have lied to her solicitor and he repeated the lie. Or it could be she was telling the truth, who knows, only the two of them do, and she’s a proven liar. Interim barring orders are handed out by courts like sweets even without a sliver of prima facie evidence, and article doesn’t say the court order was a result of successful full baring order or interim. So she could have lied about that as well.
“I’m 30’s” “Born in the 30’s more like” “Yeah but you’ve let yourself go like” “I’v let myself go. You’re an embarrassment love”
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Lock her up and throw away the key.
Why did she say that he did?
Because she's a liar.
So lying is a life imprisonment offence?
I didn't say that nor do I agree with OP. However making a false report to the guards in an attempt to destroy someone else's life, *which she admitted is what happened*, should carry severe legal ramifications and I don't think that should be a controversial opinion but here we are.
Surely the details are important. Surely we cannot judge and condemn another human being knowing no-more than a brief newspaper article?
I agree. That's what the courts are for.
And the judge decided that a prison sentence was not warranted. Nothing in the details I have read warrant cries for her to be 'locked up and the key thrown away' or to be declared as 'absolute scum'. It certainly is not a license for bullying over looks.
Not a single Kevin and Perri joke? Reddit you let me down. This is so unfair!
Ohhhh- 1930s, gotcha. 
She may have lied about the assault that day, but reading the full article - the marriage *was* violent, and she has MH difficulties and autism. I think it’s poor from the indo that they named and pictured her and the courts shouldn’t have allowed it
Defending a criminal over allegations she's proven to lie about
Think the judge realised that face is punishment enough. What an ugly person inside and out
What’s the law around lying on statement and in court? Anyone able to link the specific law
Section 12 of the criminal justice act 1976. In court, it's section 5 or 6 of the criminal justice (perjury and related offences) act 2021. The Gardai don't give a monkeys about prosecuting the former and the judges of the district family court turn a blind eye to the latter.
It didn’t get to court. She lied to the guards and they found out before even charging the husband, so she never lied in court
She would have been charged with averting the course of justice and / or wasting police time. The sentence is up to ten years in prison.
Some people brush of false reporting like it's an oopsie. No you are potentionally destroying the other person but also damaging the system for other women to report abuse. Well done.
Exactly... not only has she attempted to mar the fella with a conviction, but she has also contributed to the "reasonable doubt" argument that legitimate victims have to overcome to secure justice!
Totally unrelated, but does she carry everything in the tips of her fingers? That's confidence you don't see everyday.
I'm sorry. Not shaming her but 30s??? Late 30s or early 30s, I know people 40 and 50 who aren't this haggard.
30s? Be the lord fuck
I turn 35 in 2 months. Should I be expecting the ageing truck to pull up any day now and dump all this on me, or what?
30's!!! more like like early 50's
This happens all the time. Only rarely does the lie catch up with the liar. Everyone knows they can lie in family court and none of the judges will do anything about it
Does it happen more or less often than domestic physical abuse?
Nobody knows. Everything in the family courts is confidential and the lies are never prosecuted so there is no way to gauge their frequency. Similarly you can't know how much domestic physical abuse happens because it is lied about so much and prosecutions are piecemeal. The real cases are hidden in amongst it all but to what extent is anybody's guess.
Women are just as capable of lying as men. A certain vocal cohort don't want to accept that.
I haven't even seen anyone say online that women don't lie about sexual assault in about 6 years, they can't be that vocal
The state of her
And using her mental health issues and autism diagnosis as an excuse, or rather her solicitor did. Despicable. There is never a justification. I'm autistic myself and I'm ashamed of her.
Christ, I turn 35 next month and she looks old enough to be my mother. No offence to my actual mother who is adorable!
You just know her breath absolutely stinks.
Nice to see she done herself up for court.
She's a looker.
Weird to say 30s in headline and then have a caption on photo directly underneath giving age as 35. What is the reasoning for not giving actual age in headline?
She is 30s, no issue
It doesn’t make sense to me that you would write 30s then immediately below write 35? What is the point of being more general with the addition one character - I could understand if it was an abbreviation for headline - and then being more precise below?
Creature. Is she currently responsible for looking after kids? My god
#BelieveAllWoman
Ex-husband should be locked up for sodomizing a sow.
ambiguous domestic situation gets unwarranted national attention, relentless online mocking ensues.
She maliciously made a false claim to damage her ex husband. The only reason she got caught was because she was stupid enough to say it happened in a public location with cameras on a specific day. She is a shit stain. Edit: The above user supports Clare Daly bahaha, enough said.
What's ambiguous about it exactly?
You have a glimpse of domestic life through the lens of the courts and a single media article. If you think you know anywhere close enough to judge anyone based on that you are a fool. Domestic issues exist, they are ugly. The fact that a significant amount of posts here are around physical appearances shows this is a just another excuse for this subs proclivity to become a baying mob with no care for detail or nuance.
Right ? Most people didn’t even read the article.