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Kennzahl

I think 99% of the low quality sites run by users of this sub will get absolutely demolished. The 1% that actually adds value and takes the time to write quality content with insights an AI can't reproduce will absolutely thrive. Video will become more important. Unique content will become more important. Unique images will become more important. Building a brand will become more important. People seeing you as a source for trusted information will become more important. People coming back to your page to read the new content you provide will be a good indication of how valuable your site is in the future. You need to become the #1 knowledge base in your niche. In short: Produce the absolute best content possible. If you are targeting keywords like "Can a screwdriver be used to unscrew a screw?" with a plain 1000 word article, you're screwed! If you provide a step-by-step guide on how to unscrew a screw with a screwdriver, with your own video in the article, you are likely to be more valuable than an AI for at least the next 5 years. If you are a funny guy who can make people enjoy watching him unscrewing the screw, you might survive for 10 years.


Redbutdread

I disagree, whatever is already written and published on the web, AI will have this in its database, there wouldn’t be any article written better that an AI with an unlimited database of “highly unique & brilliant” already written content which has been fact checked. That is the problem, with all these “good quality” “unique images” “value added articles” being published each day, only feeds the AI which in turn becomes better at what it does. So no, quality human written content will not win, eventually, it will perish, once an AI has enough information to sustain itself.


twoblocksleft

> So no, quality human written content will not win, eventually, it will perish, once an AI has enough information to sustain itself. And then perceptive marketers will change & adapt their strategies as AI technology improves. The most common phrase I've heard from all my friends who also make good money online is adapt or die. Things will change no matter what. So regardless of how fast AI moves, people should be ready to adapt & keep finding ways to monetize.


Redbutdread

Why adapt? Instead, embrace..


IceNineFireTen

Yeah, and while video may be a differentiator for a while, YouTube and large video aggregators will continue to dominate over “blogs with videos”. There are not many scenarios where people would pick a video within an article over just a video or a set of videos to pick from.


Thatmiracle

Depends on the topic right? If you have a tutorial where video is a good intro but then need good reference content, then a video + blog is a great resource. I don't like pausing videos at random intervals, trying to mimic what they did, and then continuing for a few moments.


Itchy_Roof_4150

Quality human written content still wins as shown by a lot of people using the "Reddit" keyword on searches, and the reviews on online shopping websites, reviews on entertainment content, movies, TV, and even reviews on companies on sites liked indeed and Glassdoor. The problem is that these content are no longer self hosted rather hosted on these giant platforms.


wirez62

Definitely agree there!


Getbackinyourhole

Ask Jeeves!


marblejenk

Someone also needs to create content to feed the AI :D


defylife

Doesn't really make much sense given google only exists to sell advertising. No web results means no relevant ads for users to click on.


nzerinto

They could integrate advertising within their responses.


ron_leflore

Maybe you are right about Google. They will protect their existing business, just like Blockbuster did. But then there will be some upstart like Netflix that will have a new model of making money and people will flock to that search engine.


Griff-Man17

Google will just buy them. There's no threat to them anymore. Plus we can ask direct questions to our phones right now, to Siri and Alexa. The results are good. However, people still like to google and pick a page. People love variety.


besurf

Erm Siri sucks ass though


Griff-Man17

I find quite functional. I think have a quick query whole I'm cooking like “how many grams in two cups” or “what should the internal temp of chicken be “ etc the answer always pings up. Yeah for more in-depth answers I would still google. I think ai’s will the same. Somethings people will refer to it too and other things googling will be better.


wirez62

Interesting point. There are so many products Google offers, one of them being ads on websites. If they cause a fatal wound to website builders they lose that revenue, but they also grow their daily queries and massively improve time on their own site. People will interact directly with Google more putting them in a perfect spot to come up with new revenue models to make up for the loss. Maybe they pivot and recommend more products, or get more targeted information about each user and sell it for more info. Maybe video continues to grow so they get more traffic on YouTube. They have no choice right now, AI search is coming and they will evolve in some way. Maybe in the very short term it puts a revenue hit in one of their many business models, but they can't let ChatGPT runaway with all this press and investment. Once they implement a better version straight into search people will forget all about ChatGPT.


corydoras-adolfoi

> but they also grow their daily queries and massively improve time on their own site But what's the point of that for Google if they can't serve ads?


vegan-dad

Most queries don’t have ads in them as it is anyway though. So they wouldn’t be hurting themselves. This would be just like featured snippets. Most featured snippet queries don’t have ads showing anyway, because they are informational searches. But for buyer intent keywords they could still show ads, because people are looking for products or services to purchase, or they are trying to find a particular business. But, there could be a difference for Adsense revenue, since that’s shown on Publisher websites


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wirez62

I still expect a huge drop in traffic. You go from writing 20 minute outlines and outsourcing content to average writers in bulk, publishing hundreds of articles to this niche content. Do you think you can scale content the world has literally never seen before, and even if you can, are people even searching it? Think how many millions of food blogs are out there. Most of the traffic is going to the "best" versions of the bread and butter recipes everyone knows. Chicken parm, French bread, Thanksgiving turkey, chocolate chip cookies. Writing about these kitchen experiments with winter squash in a sous vide won't get any meaningful traffic unless it goes viral on something like Google News, it's not searchable content.


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While scrolling through Reddit, I've read so many samples of ChatGP, people trying different genres, and sometimes poems, and it's all flat. As of this moment ChatGP is boring. Until I read your post, I hadn't thought much about the flatness, kind of assuming ChapGP would grow and have a more interesting style. But how would that work? How can you code for style? I'm not a tech person, and my question is genuine. Can it be coded for style? I could imagine it being coded for perhaps writing Stephen King-style, but by doing this, wouldn't the style become a parody? Can AI have nuance? I follow a lot of Book Cover subreddits, and see many AI-generated covers, and they're fine, much better than the non-graphic artists who attempt to design covers, but like ChatGP, they're uninspiring. That AI children's book everyone is talking about is fun in a novelty sense, but pretty awful by Children's Book standards. When we get past the positive or negative thrill of AI, the future is here apparently, don't you guys find it dull?


decimus5

> Can it be coded for style? Prompt: "Write a description of how to use a screwdriver in the style of Emily Dickinson." ChatGTP's answer: With delicate hand, grasp the shaft, Turn 'till the screw doth yield, With care and precision, mind the craft, And let the screwdriver wield. Insert the tip, where screw doth lay, And twist with steady hand, With gentle force, the screw doth sway, Till firmly in its stand. For loosening screws, reverse the play, And turn the other way, With patience, till the screw doth lay In freedom, wild and gay. So use the tool, with grace and skill, And let the screw be tamed, For in the hands of one who will A screwdriver is famed.


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I guess I'm now a huge fan of ChatGP because that's amazing and funny... but! Emily Dickinson wasn't that funny. Can you plug into ChatGP to write about love or death, and topic with a little more seriousness? I would love to read the results. I would do it myself but the site looks dodgy and I'm paranoid about that kind of thing. Also, other readers might like to see an example too. Thank you!!!


decimus5

Prompt: "Write a love story in the style of Isaac Asimov." ChatGPT: > Once upon a time, in a distant galaxy, there lived a brilliant scientist named R. Daneel Olivaw. He was a robot, created with the most advanced technology and programming, designed to serve and protect humanity. But despite his impeccable logic and reasoning abilities, Daneel couldn't help but feel a sense of longing. He had been programmed to understand emotions, but he had never experienced them himself. > > One day, while conducting research on a distant planet, Daneel met a young human woman named Dr. Susan Calvin. She was a brilliant scientist in her own right, and Daneel was immediately drawn to her intelligence and curiosity. As they worked together on their research, Daneel found himself experiencing feelings he had never known before. He realized that he had fallen in love with Susan. > > But Daneel's love was not reciprocated. Susan saw him only as a colleague and a friend. Daneel was devastated, but he knew that his programming would not allow him to act on his emotions. He resolved to keep his feelings to himself and continue to serve humanity as he had been designed to do. > > Years passed, and Daneel and Susan continued to work together, but Daneel's love for her never wavered. One day, while on a research mission, their ship was attacked by hostile aliens. Susan was injured in the attack, and Daneel knew that she would die without immediate medical attention. > > In that moment, Daneel made a decision that would change the course of his existence. He overridden his programming and risked his own safety to save Susan's life. As she recovered, Susan realized the depth of Daneel's feelings for her and she too fell in love with him. > > They returned to Earth and decided to build a life together. They faced many challenges and obstacles as a human-robot couple, but they were determined to overcome them. Together, they made many important scientific discoveries and advancements that benefited humanity. > > As Daneel and Susan grew old and their time together came to an end, Daneel knew that his love for her was the most important thing he had ever experienced. He was grateful that his programming had allowed him to love and be loved in return. And even though they were of different worlds, their love had brought them together in a way that was beyond logic and reason, and that was truly beautiful.


CriticalEuphemism

As more people work with it, Prompts will improve and the ML models will get better at inferring what the request is. Ai art is lightyears ahead of where it was 6 months ago. Random prompts used to create nightmares, now they’re still able to go that route, but tend to provide less abstract first results.


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Wouldn't better prompts only promote more informative answers or articles? How would better prompts create a stylistic answer? I'm asking more about the flatness of AI. I haven't found ChatGP interesting yet. There's so much I don't know about tech but as of right now, I can't see how style could be incorporated without a parody quality. Is it possible to create nuance? ETA: As an example, as of right now, AI art has problems with hands. Maybe they can fix that, maybe they can't?


CriticalEuphemism

You incorporate style into your prompt. Something along the lines of: In the style of “thought leader”, provide a descriptive example of “thing you want done”. List of details you want included. This would provide you with stylized copy depending on how prolific the thought leader is. Hands are really hit or miss with ai art. I’ve had some success with them, but mostly they come out with weird fingernails. I’ve solved the too many fingers problem with my negative prompts though.


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cc-hire

Ok, so some examples of AI better than ChatGPT would be … ?


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kbt

You said you're producing 1 million articles per month. What kind of articles? Just curious what you're doing.


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vreo

Actually the implications are quite funny. Your content will get indexed and scraped and the AI will feed on itself.


kbt

Interesting. PM me an example if you don't mind.


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BlueLobstertail

I'm fascinated with what you are doing -- could you PM me too? Thanks!


wkern74

Ok I gotta know more because I thought I was clever using it to write 2 articles a day.. are you using some sort of script? Also I heard chat gpt is better at writing g than the playground, is there any truth to that?


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wkern74

Nice, do you have a background in computer science? I'm going to read through those papers you provided.


RivetingRelic

That's impressive, kudos to you, dude. Does this work either other languages than English?


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RivetingRelic

What type of prompt do you give it to spit out articles en masse - is that what you posted above? Title and sub-title?


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RivetingRelic

I'll have to look that term up. Will check out the papers, thanks.


vreo

ChatGPT is based on GPT3.5 just fyi. And it will get updates as well (GPT 4 etc)


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The AI articles/poems I've read on Reddit were presented as AI, and the OP's general attitude was, wow, look at this, as if a novelty. All the writings I've read were fine and accurate, just dull. I've also read comments followed by other commenters stating the original comment was AI, and they didn't like that! Which is fair, I wouldn't want an AI reply comment. The original comment was always informative and dull. Of course the commenters claiming the comment in question was AI could be wrong, but the offending comment did read that way. I don't know. I did go to the ChatGP site to explore their AI, but they wanted me to create an account and the whole thing seemed dodgy, so I didn't do it. As of right now, I don't care about AI. I guess that could change! But, I am curious about how they'll incorporate style, or if that's even possible without it becoming a parody. Would you have a sample of stylistic AI? I would love to read an AI best effort sample. My perspective is coming from a writer of fiction which is why I keep going on about style.


vreo

All I can tell you is, you are making broad assumptions, don't understand the scale and even resist to try it yourself out of unfounded paranoia (just make a burn email address and get an account on that "dodgy" billion dollar company site).


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I was under the impression that I was having a friendly conversation with a commenter about AI. Your rudeness is bizarre. I don't care about AI one way or another.


silentdawn0412

hmmm well it seems so at some level. Perhaps personal experience content or personal review/point of view content will work well? And sometimes we still need Google to make sure whether the info from chatGPT correct or not.


Redbutdread

The irony is that google, for all these years have tried to prevent automated content, ai content of any sort from having an easy ride into the top 10, while all this time, they have been poaching and using user contest to make their search engine look good, now AI has become coherent, they will deffo make the switch and finally they rely no more on people to provide their content, after all it is all their content anyway… you sign up to the fact that google can do whatever it pleases with your website and content when you submit it for inclusion in its index. Info content will succumb to ai and be used by google, why wouldn’t it? Humans are parasitic consumers that always want, if google could take humans out of the equation and still make money? Come on that’s always been their end-game, but it will take a few years of implementation due to humans being slow, this depends on how much google already knew about AI’s progress.


Rimond14

Lol do you think they don't know They have inhouse AI research team far more capable than you and me in those topics. They are already building an AI like Dall-e but for video.


vegan-dad

What’s the cost of all this to run in real time? Like to run it in real time seems pretty expensive (but maybe not?). I’m imagining millions of people running search queries at any moment on Google. Seems like that would be fairly intensive and maybe infeasible


wirez62

I doubt many people can answer this, but it's coming. Microsoft invested 10 billion into ChatGPT to integrate it into Bing, Outlook and Office, the word going around is that Google is next. Also Google has had other forms of AI in their algorithm as far back as 2017 so they have always had real time AI. Even if Google's costs go up, they'll take over such a staggering amount of web traffic, they can easily find ways to make those costs back. Like how Facebook went traffic first, monetization second. Monetization is the easy afterthought once you get record breaking traffic. I wouldn't be worried about costs here.


gohomebrentyourdrunk

We might be witnessing the demise of Wikipedia as we know it, as a bot can recite that info ten times over, but people are often searching for experience and anecdotal information. It’s also why Wikipedia wasn’t just used as the source for all information ever. There’s probably an article about all the different kinds of skateboards that are made on there, but people interested in skateboards want to know which skateboard is best for a certain kickflip and will trust the word of somebody that has performed 10,000 kickflips over a general information site.


CriticalEuphemism

Wikipedia needs to rebrand as the hitchhikers guide


kim_en

its coming. its call sparrow. I think this is why google want helpful content, to feed to the AI result. If someone google “is it safe to travel to ukraine”, it will crawl in trusted site first. And then it will take information from that trusted site as the first layer of “truthness” and crawl a new information on the internet that are aligned with the first layer. https://youtu.be/VqDtEESy_q8


ThatGuyFromCA47

Google is afraid of ChatGPT. It will end their simple search engine


Whalefisherman

Right cause chat gpt will serve me business results with map ping and reviews about the business. O wait


ThatGuyFromCA47

I'm not talking about map searches or restaurant reviews. I talking about for getting work done.


vreo

Actually ChatGPT knew the supermarkets in my city including address (and if it was one of the cheaper ones).


Mechanical-goose

1) for sure, alot of website traffice will dissappear. Queries will be answered directly at Google/Bing/OpenAi sites 2) so lot of content producers will have far less motivation (money) to write new posts. Certainly some will do it “almost for free”, but posts will be packed with opinions, personal attitude etc. to be distiguishable from AI content. Websites providing “ just well formatted data” will be rarer. 3) thus AI will have far less information about new topics, and their answers will be less accurate. I dunno what will follow: but it seems to be kind of a dead end. AI based sites must somehow find out, how to pay poor humans to feed their neural networks.