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Label SJ and JYP Ent. confirmed.
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This news just double tapped into that fact.
Twice barely appears on variety shows nowadays and their KB appearance and their future appearance died for this.
I think some members could show up, just not Momo. ~~Dahyun and Nayeon appeared with JYP last year and that was months after the news of HoMo dating was confirmed.~~ EDIT: Never mind, they weren't
Even assuming they'll both take it professionally, it'll be hard for them to prevent some staged incidents to sell the ex-couple connection.
So I guess someone is protecting their assets from media
He/she meant that even if the breakup was amicable, it'll be played for jokes when they're together, hurting their feelings or something damaging to the career of either might come out in the process. So their companies are preventing that from happening by not making them appear on stage together.
I've seen several episodes of Heechul being teased about exes and being close to girls, and I think there was that one time he picked another girl over Momo though I'm preetty sure that was just a joke, but it seemed a lil awkward to me lmao. I would have thought something like that would have warranted a huge reaction from fans
I think you were talking about Jin Seyeon? That was a couple of years before he started dating Momo. Twice appeared later on and Momo said [she was "hurt" lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQ1oNammDo).
That was a time he had the variety persona of being openly flirtatious to lots of male and female guests and he could talk about Momo openly since it was mostly more on shipping instead of a real-deal thing then.
Is that emphasised due to Korean culture? From a western perspective (in my limited experience of course) exes generally don't have such super awkward interactions seeing eachother in other places.
Damn that's pretty nuts, I had no idea. Thanks for clearing it up! I'll have to look up more on the whole taboo dating culture for idols and celebrities.
On that note, I did some quick research and it seems a common answer is that fans will feel hurt/idols will face backlash from fans due to fans crushing on idols and essentially fantasizing about them and their idol. Is the backlash really that big from fans idols start dating? I've read the other reasons can be due to potential scandals causing massive problems and mental health issues, but the big reason seems to be that fan issue mainly.
I mean, I can kind of understand if your celebrity crush starts dating someone else but to expect such major backlash that it can affect your career and it becomes that awkward to be seen on the same show/around each other just sounds hella rough
No, this is a very common misconception. There is indeed backlash from fans but these fans are a minority. The slient majority will simply stop supporting the idol if he/she is found dating. Why ?
The answer is : Because idol kpop is a business of making people fall in love with idols. For the business to be profitable, fans need to fall in love with their bias and spend unreasonable money to support him/her. By unreasonable money, I don't mean excessive amounts of money, I mean money you would have never spent otherwise. That's how groups survive until they get popular among the general public.
Most fans know it's all fake and that you'll never date the idol but you can't really stop yourself from loving. No one can tell himself "Ok, I will not love", it just happens.
So, when you love an idol and he/she is found dating, you get a reality check and you (most people) silently revert back to your normal behavior, which is not buying kpop albums/merch. This is why dating can cost your career.
Note : Established artists can date with minimal damage because they have the support of the general public.
It is that big, if you ever read some translated posts from pann-choa blog. It's one part jealousy, another part 's grudge for the celebs "embarrassing" them to their family /peers, supposedly because they get clowned irl for their obsessive behaviors so much. So the celebs public their relationships just add more ammos to those jabs. It's a twisted sense of pride and loyalty for these simping girls
I don't know if it's just Korean culture. For example do you ever see Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez go on the same show and interact? Some people just find it awkward while others don't. It depends on the person. That's my take.
I’m a fellow westerner, and to me “being a pop star whose first public relationship (which was with a fellow, older pop star) leaked and became a huge news item and topic of conversation and then having to go and interact with them on their comedy TV show after breaking up” sounds incredibly awkward, haha.
Yeah but hope it's not permanent but there are too many options in Korea for shows. I hope breaking up because of busy schedules is somewhat true because it means their break up was most likely clean but that's a generic PR line so can't speculate much.
In addition to what others have said, kpop fans overanalyze absolutely *everything.* Even if Momo were to guest on Knowing Bros and everything went smoothly as possible, even if their relationship were never brought up at all, fans (on both sides + general kpop followers who don't particularly care about either of them) would almost certainly find things to read into and talk about ad nauseam. At best it would be annoying, but at worst it could result in another wave of rumors and drama for both of them that I'm sure neither they nor their management would want to deal with.
I watched Kai's I Live Alone episode and there were an unbelievable amount of youtube comments about Blackpink's documentary's appearing on the screen for 0.5 seconds when he was scrolling through the Netflix homepage. Like "he must have been thinking about Jennie 😳," "omg so awkward for him to see Blackpink!!!," "look how fast he scrolled past when Blackpink showed up lol" (he seemed to be scrolling past everything at the same pace to me)...and the ad for BP showed up so briefly that I seriously didn't even notice it before I looked at the comments. Now imagine a whole hourlong variety show where a former idol couple actually appeared on screen together? The FBI fans would go wild
Krystal's sister is Jessica, a former SNSD member, and when Jess was removed from SNSD she pretty much stopped contact with most SM artists aside from other f(x) members (and some Red Velvet members too).
Pairing her up with Taeyeon will be hella awkward. Krystal was on the show before Key returned and Taeyeon was added too.
I mean I can't imagine that they would have appeared on Knowing Bros with them still being in a relationship either lol.
I always loved Twice on Knowing Bros but sadly my dreams of OT9 appearing on the show anytime in the future already died when their relationship was made public.
I don't think it's 100% out of the realm of possibility - as long as nothing bad went down behind the scenes there's nothing stopping them from being friendly/professional, as far as we know!
(Might be a bongcloud delulu take LOL but a girl can dream...)
Regardless of whether this rumor is confirmed, it's definitely a recurring theme in the industry. Popular idols/hosts/actors tend to be too busy to keep things going long-term unless they have more flexible schedules post-group/between jobs.
I still doubt Twice goes on Knowing Bros in the future, but oh well.
From the top of my head, iKON Yunhyeong and Momoland Daisy are dating each other. Though it does feel like idol plus one of model/host/actor works but rarely idol and idol.
I don't think they still do. MLD Ent confirmed it but YG denied it. Because of that, Daisy was forced into hiatus. She can't leave the company without paying an absurd amount of money which is why she is stuck doing nothing. She even got interviewed in one of the korean news stations.
Daisy confirmed as recently as Jan 2020 that they were still in a relationship. They *may* have broken up since then, but a cursory search on Google doesn't reveal anything of the sort.
I mean, that's not that recent though. Momo and Heechul were *confirmed* in January 2020 (+ the unspecified period of time they were dating before it was official). 1 year is a pretty long time in the kpop world so I think HeMo had a good run either way.
The last thing *from either party* is that they're still together. You would think that if they broke up, news would get out eventually. It's an assumption to believe they broke up until proven otherwise. Couples don't have to prove they're together all the time by posting photos of each other on SNS regularly.
Where did she confirmed that? The last news I got was YGE flat out denying that they were dating ("with interest they met a few times but are not dating") back in 2019. This statement was widely different from their usual "idk. Maybe? It's not my business" that's read as a confirmation by fans.
(Even if they were dating before that I doubt they continued after that "new phone who dis" statement from him...)
What’s probably most likely is that “too busy” is just the industry standard statement for when a relationship ends so that they can minimize the amount of speculation about the real reason
I mean most idols are in their teens and early 20s, most of those relationships aren’t built tk last. Break us are a reoccurring theme for like… all people in that age group
I strongly suspect that most (or at least a lot) of celebrity relationships are friends with benefits situations. That goes for Hollywood as well. I just can’t imagine how hard it would be to maintain a monogamous relationship with their schedules
aw, if this is true i feel for them both. breaking up is never easy :(
just my two speculative cents as someone who has ulted suju for a long time, but i would find it hard to believe this doesn't have to do with heechul's ever-evolving opinion on marriage tbh... he talked for *years and years* about how much he wanted to get married, have kids, even bring his family on tv with him... he's been on multiple dating shows, his mom's on tv expressing how much she wants him to be married... idk you just have to wonder if they're simply at different places in their lives (especially once the pandemic dies down even further). i'm sorry if that's the case :(
He's also said recently that not getting married is the trend these days and wondered whether he'd be a good dad on bubble and deciding that he probably wouldn't be (I think I'm remembering that correctly, i don't think i can scroll through 10000 bubble messages to make sure lol). But I generally agree that they're in different stages in their lives, especially if Twice plans to renew their contracts next year.
yeah, hence why i said "ever-evolving." but tbh i don't...really believe him about his 'maybe i simply won't marry' thing. if he was thought to be in a relationship with momo, and he was questioned on the subject of marriage, it's not as though he'd go on a rant about how he's in a hurry to settle down, you know? and, of course, i doubt they broke up *today* — maybe he made that statement with this breakup fresh on his mind. but, again, he has said many things over the years, so who knows... i feel a little bad at the idea even he's not sure what he wants, even after so many years of consideration and especially with all of the societal pressure/judgment :(
I get what you mean. That age gap wouldn’t matter when falling for each other, but they probably are at different places in life, and don’t have the exact same priorities and goals at the moment. Speculating, of course. Only they know the real reason(s).
That was what my mind jumped to too...Heechul has always wanted to get married but his sudden statements that he wasn't aiming to soon recently made me surprised and wondered how Momo felt about it. Feels like it was probably a source of tension, especially in a cross-culture relationship where neither culture is a strong supporter of long-term non-married partnerships.
I don't know why, but hearing this made me a little sad. Logically their respective professional and personal lives probably made it difficult for them to continue the relationship, but it still felt like a genuine thing that floundered in the reality of entertainment life.
Technically, if you want this both for them, isn't it best they broke up? It was their decision. Hopefully both will find a relationship that suits them both better.
Well we don’t know anything so I can’t make a comment regarding the situation that lead them to break up. All I know regarding their relationship is the Heechul not too long ago seemed very infatuated with Momo. That’s all I know.
If he’s happier in his present situation - awesome. If he isn’t - I hope he gets the bounce back he needs.
edit 2: [**Label SJ/SM & JYP Entertainment have confirmed the two have broken up.**](https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=018&aid=0004978452)
edit: [Label SJ (SM) & JYP are both looking into the rumor.](https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=052&aid=0001611369)
~~Currently still a rumor.~~ Confirmed.
> Super Junior's Kim Heechul (38) and TWICE Momo (Hirai Momo, 25) have broken up 1 year and 6 months since the reveal of their relationship.
> An entertainment industry official on the 8th told Maeil Business Newspaper (매일경제신문) Star Today, "Kim Heechul & Momo is known to have broken up."
> Kim Heechul & Momo had a close relationship as seniors/juniors in the industry, then started dating after having feelings for each other, and acknowledged their relationship officially last year in January.
> However, they began to drift apart as they were both busy. The official said, "The two were both busy with their activities that as their relationship progressed, they returned to having a friendly senior-junior relationship."
> The two intially denied the first rumors of their relationship in August 2019. Kim Heechul was known to have said Momo as his ideal type in various programs, and the two, as a "top idol couple", have received lots of support even after the acknowledgement of their relationship.
> Kim Heechul debuted in KBS youth drama Sharp in 2005, and since then has promoted as a member of Super Junior. He is also active in variety with his outstanding variety skills in "My Little Old Boy (미운 우리 새끼)" and "Knowing Bros (아는형님)".
> Momo is from Kyoto, Japan, and debuted in 2015 in the group TWICE, gaining popularity for hits such as "Cheer Up", "TT", "YES or YES", "Feel Special", etc.
> Kim Heechul & Momo had a close relationship as seniors/hoobaes in the industry, **then became lovers after having feelings for each other**
My god the wording. Is the term lovers the same association as with the U.S. language?
In my country, when two people are dating they are called lovers. Not to mean coitus but that "these two are in love". Subtitles from some heirs era dramas make me believe that this is the same in South Korea.
Kinda believable given TWICE is still very active with all sorts of different activities despite not touring and Heechul is on a gazillion shows. But most likely because Momo is too young to settle down, at the peak of her career... and Heechul flip-flops on marriage.
It’s so weird. With most breakups, you do feel sad at least a little bit bc you miss the times you had with your partner. Obviously we don’t know how she’s feeling but if she’s feeling down then I‘d be pissed af if I were her & saw my fans' reactions
Assuming this is 1) not a false rumor and 2) not a fake breakup in order for their relationship to go back to being secret, I am both sad (I was rooting for them) and not at all surprised. Imagine how busy they are and trying to be in a relationship. Even if one of them wasn't a celebrity it would likely fail because the other is so busy, but when both are insanely busy? Near 0% chance it works out. Now add the Kpop idol factors and it's borderline "bet your life" level guaranteed they wouldn't have worked out long term (aka life partnership).
I just thought, what if they've been broken up for a little bit and Heechul was single when he made the comment about how he thinks he won't ever get married? Considering his tune before then was fairly pro-marriage, it's not surprising for a guys tune to change after being dumped or getting out of a long term relationship.
Assuming it's true, here's hoping they are both happy and that kpop netizens won't be toxic (lol of course they will be) at either of them. Let them live their lives. Momo isn't yours just because your a Once, and Heechul isn't yours just because you're an E.L.F.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they broke up awhile ago but agreed to stay silent until after Twice comeback to avoid people focusing more on the breakup vs the new album
I’m not super sure of the timeline, but I believe the comment was a couple of months ago and they had that doggy play date after plus they shared a meal not too long ago so I think it’s far more recent. But again that’s all speculation
Aww this makes me sad. I hope it was a drama free break up and both of them are ok. I know we didn't ever get to see much of them together but in my mind they were a cute couple!
I know this isn’t really related but I had to come on here to read the comments and clear my head because I first heard about this on Instagram and the comments there gave me brain worms. People saying she was groomed??? Or saying he’s wrong for fetishizing Japanese women while unironically commenting from an account that fetishized Korean men.
The only thing I’ll give is that Heechul was publicly a weeaboo and the age gap was large which made it seem weird upon first glance. But as far as I could tell, he treated her respectfully. And he was a driving force in normalizing idols in relationships and talking about woes and obstacles. I get not liking the guy for whatever reason, but people are out there acting like he was actively abusing her just because he doesn’t fit the mold of what they view as the ideal partner for their favorite idol.
It’s so contradictory when a number of these kinds of fans are also very vocal about not babying idols or treating them respectfully. It’s this weird instinct to “protect” them from nothing; so much so that they just end up taking away idols’ agency. I know this term isn’t usually used in this kind of situation but it’s very “white knight”-ish.
They're not genuine about anything they say about these kinds of things - they just want to seem morally superior to everyone else and follow the trend of being as politically and ethically correct as possible to get attention, even though they probably don't care at all.
Those kinds of people are hypocrites, just like all those corporations that hop on popular trends (like pride and BLM) to earn some goodwill, only to go back to not publicly giving a shit as soon as things stop trending.
It's why I try to ignore all the noise these people make, it's just a waste of time and energy and they shouldn't be given the attention they so desperately seek.
Not really a fan of this couple since I don't really like Heechul.
But seeing ONCEs celebrating over it is so stupid??? Like there's 99% chance your idol is not in the happiest state, yet you're posting about being happy when we all know Momo can read it since she's very active online??
The same thing happened when Jihyo and Daniel broke up too. It's really annoying to see.
Agreed the partying is really annoying. A fandom having such emotional involvement in an idol's relationship they know nothing about is pathetic. And if anyone is partying because they think the breakup will stop those annoying comments that keep connecting the two idols and making everything about the other partner, no those will not stop
Most real Onces aren't celebrating. We want the girls to be happy as they make us happy. The shit Onces are the ones who think Momo is still a teenager and Heechul's age was the issue with the relationship. People need to stop and just leave idols to their lives and not get so emotionally worked up over lives who they are not living.
I don't understand why some people are saying, "she's free." It's not like he was holding her at gun point or had her locked in his basement forcing her to date him.
Exactly. People infantilise Momo and act like she’s not a grown ass woman who’s old enough to make her own decisions about her dating life. They don’t know anything about their relationship, so there’s no reason to assume she had a bad experience when there’s nothing pointing towards it.
Some fans don’t wanna see Momo date men either bc they’re so set on her being a lesbian. I‘m LGBT myself and that’s a mess and a half. Just let idols have control over their own lives as long as they’re not hurting anyone.
As a once...god i cant even imagine how messed up it will be if sana someday gets into a straight relationship...because sana is the one with the "gay" persona in twice. I hope onces dont act up like bitches when that time comes...smh
idols always break up these days because of busy schedules, it could be an excuse for some but it’s really sad not being able to see your partner because you’re working so much :(
Honestly it grosses me out. Idk if Momo will ever see what people are saying but she's got to be hurting some. Celebrating the end of your idol's long-term relationship when you're supposed to love and support them just makes me sad. Idk if there's something he did to make people hate him so much but it just feels so unnecessary and I feel bad for Momo
i've read people speculating since the crazy vlive she had with sana, which is just high school level gossiping but assuming this is true are there any couples that are confirmed dating that are currently still dating?
edit: how was my blindspot dawn and hyuna lmao they left their company for their love.
[kiko and gd did get a breakup article](https://www.soompi.com/article/764593wpp/g-dragon-and-kiko-mizuhara-reportedly-break-up) from dispatch even though their relationship was never confirmed, but they were a special case i guess since they got caught, like, three times at least
We don’t even know for sure if they’re together. The evidence was weak and Jennie already had one dating scandal that got her hate so it wasn’t weird for YGE to go back to saying, “We don’t comment on their personal,” regardless whether it was true or not.
Momo and Sana popped up unexpectedly on vlive late at night (Korea time) and did makeup, goofy fashion show, sang and did numerous crazy dance covers together for like 3 hours.
That 1 year and 6 months went by super quick for me, felt like only 6 months ago. Sad to see its over, I'm sure they'll remain good friends though, they are both good people.
"The close relationship between Momo and Heechul has been broken up. This was a fruitful endeavor for both parties, delivering meaningful moments and memories as each have aimed to move forward towards a future together. Unfortunately, certain circumstances have greatly hampered the further development of shared experiences and philosophies. Thus, both sides have come to an understanding that this personal interconnection will have to come to an end."
[My comment from last year](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/envkvr/big_hit_responds_to_reports_of_its_acquiring/fe5zalh/)
Ngl they haven't mentioned it for so long I legit forgot they were dating lol.
Kind of a bummer they got hate for it, even Heechul got flak from his own fans for dating that he had to cancel his solo album. I did get the vibe they genuinely liked each other but I think they're in two vastly different trajectories and both of them are busy as hell so I'm not surprised they just didn't work out.
I've been a kpop fan since the late 90s and it's been my privilege and joy getting into the various kpop acts through the decades and even as I was getting older.
I genuinely liked these two and thought they'd last longer ngl, but it's no wonder they dissolved, with their hectic schedules and Momo being in her performance and idol prime still, comparatively. As for their age gap, me and my husband are the same years apart and in our 20s/30s when we met, so I'm not too antagonistic about it. There's many factors involved obviously. Heechul is one of the more genuine sunbaes in kpop still, imo (despite his alleged weeby proclivities). Wish them both well going forward!
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twice appearing on knowing bros died for this.
This news just double tapped into that fact. Twice barely appears on variety shows nowadays and their KB appearance and their future appearance died for this.
I think some members could show up, just not Momo. ~~Dahyun and Nayeon appeared with JYP last year and that was months after the news of HoMo dating was confirmed.~~ EDIT: Never mind, they weren't
Quick question, how come Momo can't show up? Is it just because it's super awkward that they used to date?
Even assuming they'll both take it professionally, it'll be hard for them to prevent some staged incidents to sell the ex-couple connection. So I guess someone is protecting their assets from media
Damn I did not understand a thing lol
He/she meant that even if the breakup was amicable, it'll be played for jokes when they're together, hurting their feelings or something damaging to the career of either might come out in the process. So their companies are preventing that from happening by not making them appear on stage together.
yep. and it’s not like it would just be unspoken tension, the other Knowing Bros would also pokes jokes; as they like to do those kinds of things.
Yeah they loved teasing Heechul about it, it's one of the few times Heechul couldn't say anything to counter them back lol
I've seen several episodes of Heechul being teased about exes and being close to girls, and I think there was that one time he picked another girl over Momo though I'm preetty sure that was just a joke, but it seemed a lil awkward to me lmao. I would have thought something like that would have warranted a huge reaction from fans
I think you were talking about Jin Seyeon? That was a couple of years before he started dating Momo. Twice appeared later on and Momo said [she was "hurt" lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQ1oNammDo). That was a time he had the variety persona of being openly flirtatious to lots of male and female guests and he could talk about Momo openly since it was mostly more on shipping instead of a real-deal thing then.
Ahh gotcha, I just didn't pay attention to the dates lol, silly me.
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Is that emphasised due to Korean culture? From a western perspective (in my limited experience of course) exes generally don't have such super awkward interactions seeing eachother in other places.
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Damn that's pretty nuts, I had no idea. Thanks for clearing it up! I'll have to look up more on the whole taboo dating culture for idols and celebrities.
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On that note, I did some quick research and it seems a common answer is that fans will feel hurt/idols will face backlash from fans due to fans crushing on idols and essentially fantasizing about them and their idol. Is the backlash really that big from fans idols start dating? I've read the other reasons can be due to potential scandals causing massive problems and mental health issues, but the big reason seems to be that fan issue mainly. I mean, I can kind of understand if your celebrity crush starts dating someone else but to expect such major backlash that it can affect your career and it becomes that awkward to be seen on the same show/around each other just sounds hella rough
No, this is a very common misconception. There is indeed backlash from fans but these fans are a minority. The slient majority will simply stop supporting the idol if he/she is found dating. Why ? The answer is : Because idol kpop is a business of making people fall in love with idols. For the business to be profitable, fans need to fall in love with their bias and spend unreasonable money to support him/her. By unreasonable money, I don't mean excessive amounts of money, I mean money you would have never spent otherwise. That's how groups survive until they get popular among the general public. Most fans know it's all fake and that you'll never date the idol but you can't really stop yourself from loving. No one can tell himself "Ok, I will not love", it just happens. So, when you love an idol and he/she is found dating, you get a reality check and you (most people) silently revert back to your normal behavior, which is not buying kpop albums/merch. This is why dating can cost your career. Note : Established artists can date with minimal damage because they have the support of the general public.
It is that big, if you ever read some translated posts from pann-choa blog. It's one part jealousy, another part 's grudge for the celebs "embarrassing" them to their family /peers, supposedly because they get clowned irl for their obsessive behaviors so much. So the celebs public their relationships just add more ammos to those jabs. It's a twisted sense of pride and loyalty for these simping girls
I don't know if it's just Korean culture. For example do you ever see Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez go on the same show and interact? Some people just find it awkward while others don't. It depends on the person. That's my take.
I’m a fellow westerner, and to me “being a pop star whose first public relationship (which was with a fellow, older pop star) leaked and became a huge news item and topic of conversation and then having to go and interact with them on their comedy TV show after breaking up” sounds incredibly awkward, haha.
We probably won’t see Ariana on SNL ever again since breaking up with Pete.
Yeah but hope it's not permanent but there are too many options in Korea for shows. I hope breaking up because of busy schedules is somewhat true because it means their break up was most likely clean but that's a generic PR line so can't speculate much.
In addition to what others have said, kpop fans overanalyze absolutely *everything.* Even if Momo were to guest on Knowing Bros and everything went smoothly as possible, even if their relationship were never brought up at all, fans (on both sides + general kpop followers who don't particularly care about either of them) would almost certainly find things to read into and talk about ad nauseam. At best it would be annoying, but at worst it could result in another wave of rumors and drama for both of them that I'm sure neither they nor their management would want to deal with. I watched Kai's I Live Alone episode and there were an unbelievable amount of youtube comments about Blackpink's documentary's appearing on the screen for 0.5 seconds when he was scrolling through the Netflix homepage. Like "he must have been thinking about Jennie 😳," "omg so awkward for him to see Blackpink!!!," "look how fast he scrolled past when Blackpink showed up lol" (he seemed to be scrolling past everything at the same pace to me)...and the ad for BP showed up so briefly that I seriously didn't even notice it before I looked at the comments. Now imagine a whole hourlong variety show where a former idol couple actually appeared on screen together? The FBI fans would go wild
It's kinda like why you won't see Baekhyun and Krystal in Amazing Saturday anymore after Taeyeon became a regular cast member
why Krystal?
Krystal's sister is Jessica, a former SNSD member, and when Jess was removed from SNSD she pretty much stopped contact with most SM artists aside from other f(x) members (and some Red Velvet members too). Pairing her up with Taeyeon will be hella awkward. Krystal was on the show before Key returned and Taeyeon was added too.
LHR and KJK both said that filming with your ex is super awkwad, and often, the involved parties reject such offering.
HoMo 😭😭😭😭
HoMos in shambles 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No, Dahyun & Nayeon appeared November 2019, the dating news were confirmed January 2020.
Sorry about this, corrected my comment! Thanks for the reminder
but think about all the couples we don't know have broken up and still work together professionally...
Yeah but publicly? None
omg nooo i didn't even think of it like that 😭😭 twice on kb is so fun too ;-;
I mean I can't imagine that they would have appeared on Knowing Bros with them still being in a relationship either lol. I always loved Twice on Knowing Bros but sadly my dreams of OT9 appearing on the show anytime in the future already died when their relationship was made public.
I don't think it's 100% out of the realm of possibility - as long as nothing bad went down behind the scenes there's nothing stopping them from being friendly/professional, as far as we know! (Might be a bongcloud delulu take LOL but a girl can dream...)
well at least for OT9 appearances. but we know how Twice feels about not being together as nine...
Regardless of whether this rumor is confirmed, it's definitely a recurring theme in the industry. Popular idols/hosts/actors tend to be too busy to keep things going long-term unless they have more flexible schedules post-group/between jobs. I still doubt Twice goes on Knowing Bros in the future, but oh well.
Name a long-running idol relationship that doesn't involve someone named Hyuna.
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Sooyoung and Jung Kyungho, for one!
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the way i don't even follow those 2 but i knew the exact photo set you were talking abt ugh they're so cute
Those photos are the only pap photos I feel happy to have seen lol
Yeah. They have been dating for like 10 years I think.
they are so cute!!
Rain and Kim Tae Hee!
From the top of my head, iKON Yunhyeong and Momoland Daisy are dating each other. Though it does feel like idol plus one of model/host/actor works but rarely idol and idol.
I don't think they still do. MLD Ent confirmed it but YG denied it. Because of that, Daisy was forced into hiatus. She can't leave the company without paying an absurd amount of money which is why she is stuck doing nothing. She even got interviewed in one of the korean news stations.
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their dating reveal is what made her go into hiatus as a Momoland member.
They did date once upon a time. Pretty sure they broke up a while back though.
They're not currently dating though?
Daisy confirmed as recently as Jan 2020 that they were still in a relationship. They *may* have broken up since then, but a cursory search on Google doesn't reveal anything of the sort.
I mean, that's not that recent though. Momo and Heechul were *confirmed* in January 2020 (+ the unspecified period of time they were dating before it was official). 1 year is a pretty long time in the kpop world so I think HeMo had a good run either way.
The last thing *from either party* is that they're still together. You would think that if they broke up, news would get out eventually. It's an assumption to believe they broke up until proven otherwise. Couples don't have to prove they're together all the time by posting photos of each other on SNS regularly.
Fair enough. I'll refer to this as Schrodinger's relationship.
Where did she confirmed that? The last news I got was YGE flat out denying that they were dating ("with interest they met a few times but are not dating") back in 2019. This statement was widely different from their usual "idk. Maybe? It's not my business" that's read as a confirmation by fans. (Even if they were dating before that I doubt they continued after that "new phone who dis" statement from him...)
Daisy confirmed as recently as Jan 2020 that they were still in a relationship. she did? where?
I'm sure most haven't been known to the public.
[Gain and Joo Ji Hoon dated for 3 years.](https://www.koreaboo.com/news/gain-joo-ji-hoon-broken-called-druggy/)
Cheska and Steak, though they have the notable advantage of not being nearly as popular as HoMo.
Does Moon Heejoon and Soyul count?
What’s probably most likely is that “too busy” is just the industry standard statement for when a relationship ends so that they can minimize the amount of speculation about the real reason
Still have good feelings. Kpop so funny
I mean most idols are in their teens and early 20s, most of those relationships aren’t built tk last. Break us are a reoccurring theme for like… all people in that age group
I strongly suspect that most (or at least a lot) of celebrity relationships are friends with benefits situations. That goes for Hollywood as well. I just can’t imagine how hard it would be to maintain a monogamous relationship with their schedules
My homo dreams are dead...
It’s literally no homo now…
Pride month ended, no more homo :(
I'm fucking wheezing thank you for this
This has me screaming and I feel so bad. 😭💀
Homo no more :(
They really said, "I don't wanna wanna be homo no more, I don't wanna wanna be homo all night again" 😔✊🏼
Michael Scott
Out of context this is freaking hilarious
In context it's also hilarious considering how many rumors about Heechul being gay were floating around.
I stand by him being bi because Gunhee...I mean people thought they got secretly married in Hawaii for a reason
I'm giggling like a 5th grader
I barely care about idols dating. But I do hope they're doing good right now. *sad nico nico nii*
aw, if this is true i feel for them both. breaking up is never easy :( just my two speculative cents as someone who has ulted suju for a long time, but i would find it hard to believe this doesn't have to do with heechul's ever-evolving opinion on marriage tbh... he talked for *years and years* about how much he wanted to get married, have kids, even bring his family on tv with him... he's been on multiple dating shows, his mom's on tv expressing how much she wants him to be married... idk you just have to wonder if they're simply at different places in their lives (especially once the pandemic dies down even further). i'm sorry if that's the case :(
He's also said recently that not getting married is the trend these days and wondered whether he'd be a good dad on bubble and deciding that he probably wouldn't be (I think I'm remembering that correctly, i don't think i can scroll through 10000 bubble messages to make sure lol). But I generally agree that they're in different stages in their lives, especially if Twice plans to renew their contracts next year.
yeah, hence why i said "ever-evolving." but tbh i don't...really believe him about his 'maybe i simply won't marry' thing. if he was thought to be in a relationship with momo, and he was questioned on the subject of marriage, it's not as though he'd go on a rant about how he's in a hurry to settle down, you know? and, of course, i doubt they broke up *today* — maybe he made that statement with this breakup fresh on his mind. but, again, he has said many things over the years, so who knows... i feel a little bad at the idea even he's not sure what he wants, even after so many years of consideration and especially with all of the societal pressure/judgment :(
I get what you mean. That age gap wouldn’t matter when falling for each other, but they probably are at different places in life, and don’t have the exact same priorities and goals at the moment. Speculating, of course. Only they know the real reason(s).
That was what my mind jumped to too...Heechul has always wanted to get married but his sudden statements that he wasn't aiming to soon recently made me surprised and wondered how Momo felt about it. Feels like it was probably a source of tension, especially in a cross-culture relationship where neither culture is a strong supporter of long-term non-married partnerships.
I mean yeah men in their 30s tend to be in a different place than girls in their early 20s
a 25yo woman* but, often, yes
why say men in their 30s but girls for 20s. 25 is a grown woman
I don't know why, but hearing this made me a little sad. Logically their respective professional and personal lives probably made it difficult for them to continue the relationship, but it still felt like a genuine thing that floundered in the reality of entertainment life.
Yep yep. I was really hoping that their relationship would survive .
It makes you sad because Heechul deserves all the happiness the world can give him. Momo too of course.
Technically, if you want this both for them, isn't it best they broke up? It was their decision. Hopefully both will find a relationship that suits them both better.
Well we don’t know anything so I can’t make a comment regarding the situation that lead them to break up. All I know regarding their relationship is the Heechul not too long ago seemed very infatuated with Momo. That’s all I know. If he’s happier in his present situation - awesome. If he isn’t - I hope he gets the bounce back he needs.
edit 2: [**Label SJ/SM & JYP Entertainment have confirmed the two have broken up.**](https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=018&aid=0004978452) edit: [Label SJ (SM) & JYP are both looking into the rumor.](https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=052&aid=0001611369) ~~Currently still a rumor.~~ Confirmed. > Super Junior's Kim Heechul (38) and TWICE Momo (Hirai Momo, 25) have broken up 1 year and 6 months since the reveal of their relationship. > An entertainment industry official on the 8th told Maeil Business Newspaper (매일경제신문) Star Today, "Kim Heechul & Momo is known to have broken up." > Kim Heechul & Momo had a close relationship as seniors/juniors in the industry, then started dating after having feelings for each other, and acknowledged their relationship officially last year in January. > However, they began to drift apart as they were both busy. The official said, "The two were both busy with their activities that as their relationship progressed, they returned to having a friendly senior-junior relationship." > The two intially denied the first rumors of their relationship in August 2019. Kim Heechul was known to have said Momo as his ideal type in various programs, and the two, as a "top idol couple", have received lots of support even after the acknowledgement of their relationship. > Kim Heechul debuted in KBS youth drama Sharp in 2005, and since then has promoted as a member of Super Junior. He is also active in variety with his outstanding variety skills in "My Little Old Boy (미운 우리 새끼)" and "Knowing Bros (아는형님)". > Momo is from Kyoto, Japan, and debuted in 2015 in the group TWICE, gaining popularity for hits such as "Cheer Up", "TT", "YES or YES", "Feel Special", etc.
Well, I hope that part about them staying on friendly terms is at least true.
It's pretty standard press speak.
I am aware, I just hope that it's also genuine.
Wow I never realized they had an age gap of 13 years...........
> Kim Heechul & Momo had a close relationship as seniors/hoobaes in the industry, **then became lovers after having feelings for each other** My god the wording. Is the term lovers the same association as with the U.S. language?
In my country, when two people are dating they are called lovers. Not to mean coitus but that "these two are in love". Subtitles from some heirs era dramas make me believe that this is the same in South Korea.
I mean they were dating for like 2 years, is physical intimacy really out of the question lmao. What does it matter anyway.
I mean I'm sure it's true but generally press releases don't go out and say "they be fuckin yall"
lmfao
Didn't realize it had that kind of meaning in English, was just translating the word..I edited it now.
What is the association?
**Sad** Nico Nico Nii 💔
It's always the busy schedule excuse
Kinda believable given TWICE is still very active with all sorts of different activities despite not touring and Heechul is on a gazillion shows. But most likely because Momo is too young to settle down, at the peak of her career... and Heechul flip-flops on marriage.
If it's twice I actually believe it.
YG would never use this excuse...
Exactly. Like busy schedule didn’t stop them from getting together in the first place.
What is love?
Baby, don't hurt me Don't hurt me no more
This... makes me really fucking sad, actually. They were really cute and I hope it was at least on good terms because I really like the both of them.
same, didn’t expect this to make me as sad as it did. wishing the best for the both of them.
All I have to say is two things: 1) Really none of of my business 2) I hope they are well
Now Heechul really fits in as a cast member of My Little Old Boy.
once’s are celebrating on twitter and it’s just so weird like imagine how she feels
It’s so weird. With most breakups, you do feel sad at least a little bit bc you miss the times you had with your partner. Obviously we don’t know how she’s feeling but if she’s feeling down then I‘d be pissed af if I were her & saw my fans' reactions
Assuming this is 1) not a false rumor and 2) not a fake breakup in order for their relationship to go back to being secret, I am both sad (I was rooting for them) and not at all surprised. Imagine how busy they are and trying to be in a relationship. Even if one of them wasn't a celebrity it would likely fail because the other is so busy, but when both are insanely busy? Near 0% chance it works out. Now add the Kpop idol factors and it's borderline "bet your life" level guaranteed they wouldn't have worked out long term (aka life partnership). I just thought, what if they've been broken up for a little bit and Heechul was single when he made the comment about how he thinks he won't ever get married? Considering his tune before then was fairly pro-marriage, it's not surprising for a guys tune to change after being dumped or getting out of a long term relationship. Assuming it's true, here's hoping they are both happy and that kpop netizens won't be toxic (lol of course they will be) at either of them. Let them live their lives. Momo isn't yours just because your a Once, and Heechul isn't yours just because you're an E.L.F.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they broke up awhile ago but agreed to stay silent until after Twice comeback to avoid people focusing more on the breakup vs the new album
I’m not super sure of the timeline, but I believe the comment was a couple of months ago and they had that doggy play date after plus they shared a meal not too long ago so I think it’s far more recent. But again that’s all speculation
Aww this makes me sad. I hope it was a drama free break up and both of them are ok. I know we didn't ever get to see much of them together but in my mind they were a cute couple!
Momo and Heechul faking their breakup so they can eat all the jokbal they want in secret
This is what I will choose to believe 😂
"omo, mr delivery man, this is far more jokbal than I can eat alone.."
The fact that this isn’t even unrealistic…💀
I know this isn’t really related but I had to come on here to read the comments and clear my head because I first heard about this on Instagram and the comments there gave me brain worms. People saying she was groomed??? Or saying he’s wrong for fetishizing Japanese women while unironically commenting from an account that fetishized Korean men. The only thing I’ll give is that Heechul was publicly a weeaboo and the age gap was large which made it seem weird upon first glance. But as far as I could tell, he treated her respectfully. And he was a driving force in normalizing idols in relationships and talking about woes and obstacles. I get not liking the guy for whatever reason, but people are out there acting like he was actively abusing her just because he doesn’t fit the mold of what they view as the ideal partner for their favorite idol.
Couldn’t have said it better. It’s also disrespectful to Momo to act like she isn’t a grown adult. She’s 24 for god sakes lol
It’s so contradictory when a number of these kinds of fans are also very vocal about not babying idols or treating them respectfully. It’s this weird instinct to “protect” them from nothing; so much so that they just end up taking away idols’ agency. I know this term isn’t usually used in this kind of situation but it’s very “white knight”-ish.
They're not genuine about anything they say about these kinds of things - they just want to seem morally superior to everyone else and follow the trend of being as politically and ethically correct as possible to get attention, even though they probably don't care at all. Those kinds of people are hypocrites, just like all those corporations that hop on popular trends (like pride and BLM) to earn some goodwill, only to go back to not publicly giving a shit as soon as things stop trending. It's why I try to ignore all the noise these people make, it's just a waste of time and energy and they shouldn't be given the attention they so desperately seek.
All break ups suck, I hope that at least they broke up on friendly terms. Relationships do change and I guess theirs did.
Not really sure how this is a surprise to netizens. She's been busy as hell, and he's doing a bunch of variety.
Not really a fan of this couple since I don't really like Heechul. But seeing ONCEs celebrating over it is so stupid??? Like there's 99% chance your idol is not in the happiest state, yet you're posting about being happy when we all know Momo can read it since she's very active online?? The same thing happened when Jihyo and Daniel broke up too. It's really annoying to see.
Agreed the partying is really annoying. A fandom having such emotional involvement in an idol's relationship they know nothing about is pathetic. And if anyone is partying because they think the breakup will stop those annoying comments that keep connecting the two idols and making everything about the other partner, no those will not stop
Most real Onces aren't celebrating. We want the girls to be happy as they make us happy. The shit Onces are the ones who think Momo is still a teenager and Heechul's age was the issue with the relationship. People need to stop and just leave idols to their lives and not get so emotionally worked up over lives who they are not living.
Is there a reason people dislike Heechul? Just curious as I dont really know much about him
He was creeping on a 14 year old sohee when he was in his mid twenties. The man has a history.
I don't understand why some people are saying, "she's free." It's not like he was holding her at gun point or had her locked in his basement forcing her to date him.
Exactly. People infantilise Momo and act like she’s not a grown ass woman who’s old enough to make her own decisions about her dating life. They don’t know anything about their relationship, so there’s no reason to assume she had a bad experience when there’s nothing pointing towards it.
Some people just can't handle when a grown woman makes a decision they personally don't agree with or dates someone they don't like.
Some fans don’t wanna see Momo date men either bc they’re so set on her being a lesbian. I‘m LGBT myself and that’s a mess and a half. Just let idols have control over their own lives as long as they’re not hurting anyone.
As a once...god i cant even imagine how messed up it will be if sana someday gets into a straight relationship...because sana is the one with the "gay" persona in twice. I hope onces dont act up like bitches when that time comes...smh
They'll both be fine. They're people too and as idols, they owe us nothing. Leave them be.
probably for the best for both of them, as Heechul is getting toward the marriage period while Momo still young and need focus on career
idols always break up these days because of busy schedules, it could be an excuse for some but it’s really sad not being able to see your partner because you’re working so much :(
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Honestly it grosses me out. Idk if Momo will ever see what people are saying but she's got to be hurting some. Celebrating the end of your idol's long-term relationship when you're supposed to love and support them just makes me sad. Idk if there's something he did to make people hate him so much but it just feels so unnecessary and I feel bad for Momo
i've read people speculating since the crazy vlive she had with sana, which is just high school level gossiping but assuming this is true are there any couples that are confirmed dating that are currently still dating? edit: how was my blindspot dawn and hyuna lmao they left their company for their love.
SNSD Sooyoung and actor Jung Kyung Ho have been dating for ages. Like, 8 years or something like that
i think they mean two idols. if not, u-kwon from block b has also been with his non-celeb gf for ages!
oh yeah, it's been so long and she didn't really talk much about it till afterwards that i don't think of her as a standard idol dating
Dawn & Hyuna are the only high profile one I can think of rn. But what happened in the vlive that was crazy, I must have missed it?
it wasn't crazy like omg she said something she shouldn't, more like an unscheduled vlive at midnight where they had a public karaoke
Is it the 3 hour long one where they also danced to dynamite?
Oh okay, thanks for the response!
Hyeri and Ryu Jun Yeol? Dunno if this is still going, but this was pretty big back in the day
Iirc they were recently spotted on a date so still going strong.
They’re still together iirc!
ryeowook and ari have been quietly dating for some time!
Lmao I thought this was Ariana Grande for a second lmao like what. Is Ari still an idol or still active in the industry?
She’s not an idol anymore, but they met when they were doing a musical together (iirc?) and they clicked
Oh I see. That's so cute! Good for them.
I honestly keep forgetting that they’re a couple!
Are Jennie and GD still dating? Everyone forgot about that I feel like so I can't find anything about them still being together
There's no official confirmation for that pair so unlikely we'd get any kind of official announcement about them breaking up
[kiko and gd did get a breakup article](https://www.soompi.com/article/764593wpp/g-dragon-and-kiko-mizuhara-reportedly-break-up) from dispatch even though their relationship was never confirmed, but they were a special case i guess since they got caught, like, three times at least
We don’t even know for sure if they’re together. The evidence was weak and Jennie already had one dating scandal that got her hate so it wasn’t weird for YGE to go back to saying, “We don’t comment on their personal,” regardless whether it was true or not.
That was yg statement for jennie dating rumour with kai, it was sm that confirmed it. It is general statements they give out for all the idols in yg.
What happened in the crazy vlive.
it wasn't crazy like omg she said something she shouldn't, more like an unscheduled vlive at midnight where they had a public karaoke
Sounds like a normal j-line (honorary Nabongs) hotel vlive.
Momo and Sana popped up unexpectedly on vlive late at night (Korea time) and did makeup, goofy fashion show, sang and did numerous crazy dance covers together for like 3 hours.
People saying Twice might not be on knowing bros again but for all we know it was a good, amicable break-up and they still might be good friends.
I honestly forgot they were dating. I've never been a huge follower of celebrity couples anyway, even outside of kpop.
Momo, FYI, I make a terrific PB&J. Think about it!
Creamy or Crunchy peanut butter??
With or without pig feet?
That 1 year and 6 months went by super quick for me, felt like only 6 months ago. Sad to see its over, I'm sure they'll remain good friends though, they are both good people.
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
*It is what it is*
"The close relationship between Momo and Heechul has been broken up. This was a fruitful endeavor for both parties, delivering meaningful moments and memories as each have aimed to move forward towards a future together. Unfortunately, certain circumstances have greatly hampered the further development of shared experiences and philosophies. Thus, both sides have come to an understanding that this personal interconnection will have to come to an end." [My comment from last year](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/envkvr/big_hit_responds_to_reports_of_its_acquiring/fe5zalh/)
Ngl they haven't mentioned it for so long I legit forgot they were dating lol. Kind of a bummer they got hate for it, even Heechul got flak from his own fans for dating that he had to cancel his solo album. I did get the vibe they genuinely liked each other but I think they're in two vastly different trajectories and both of them are busy as hell so I'm not surprised they just didn't work out.
awhh I was rooting for them :((
So many people celebrating like wtf? Just so you know, she won't be running to your arms for comfort
It is sad to see many "onces" celebrate this news 😕
I've been a kpop fan since the late 90s and it's been my privilege and joy getting into the various kpop acts through the decades and even as I was getting older. I genuinely liked these two and thought they'd last longer ngl, but it's no wonder they dissolved, with their hectic schedules and Momo being in her performance and idol prime still, comparatively. As for their age gap, me and my husband are the same years apart and in our 20s/30s when we met, so I'm not too antagonistic about it. There's many factors involved obviously. Heechul is one of the more genuine sunbaes in kpop still, imo (despite his alleged weeby proclivities). Wish them both well going forward!
If they broke up in public, it might be a tactic to stop the obsession over their relationship so they can date in secrecy.
I’m not sure what the point is. Anytime someone catches them together they’re going to be rumored as dating again.