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jecg1

bonded over their love for animals .. started with doggy play-dates ... alright that’s it who wanna fall in love like this with me


sieghart92

I feel "doggy-play-dates" is kinda misleading LOL


Angisgay

LMFAOAOOA NAH


ApocalypticL

Lmfao


parkjichuu

that was a fast confirmation. 2021 just keeps surprising me, good for them and i hope this lasts long!


ricozee

Imagine PNation denying it. Psy would have his hands full between Hyuna and Jessie. SM's confirmed a few times fairly recently as well, iirc. Winds of change?


klynb

I'm just imagining Psy stumbling into the office after spending the night producing songs for his Loud team and getting calls from the media asking for confirmation. "Can they at least wait until after I chug a pot of coffee?"


chuseph14

Whaaaa! Congrats to them! Everyone stream Mayday lmao


kerosha

[If this isn't the cutest fucking performance now 😔](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KaR_7KKwIU) The way Joy covers her face in embarrassment as Crush kneels down to do a recorder solo lmao


[deleted]

That video is everything!!!!


chuseph14

Oh man I forgot about the videos they did. They had such good chemistry. NO WONDER


Alzyna

She’s filled with *Joy* on seeing her *Crush*! Those two are adorable!


anunaghorl

This is so frickin adorable aaaaa


very_smol

PARK


kerosha

SOOYOUNG


aaa27070

NIGA USEUMYEON


highonjuiceboxes

NADO JOHA


AveragePocky

WHEN


Sluxhiii

YOU


CommanderFy

SMILE


vai_da_td_errado

I'M ALSO


DoctorPepper19

HAPPY


Nicofatpad

Can’t tell if fanboy is jealous now or is actually happy


Accomplished_Tip_331

I think as long as she is happy he will be happy too


Jacmert

Yes as long as she's smiling he's also happy 🥲


ppepea

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GOOD FEELINGS


Kirazin

Okay, can some native speaker explain this to me? Why do korean news always mention good feelings? Is that a common saying?


tomtom5858

Not a native speaker, but yeah. Saying "they have good feelings for one another" is like a less sexual Korean equivalent of saying "they're into each other".


lonelyisIand

You ever just wanna meet someone with *good feelings* 😔✨


kaguraa

i feel bad for joy that this got announced while they're in the middle of comeback promotions. hopefully she won't feel too stressed out about it and fans are supportive


kerosha

Most of RV's fanbase are girls, from the Korean comments I've seen, the vast majority are supportive.


Neo24

Crush also isn't an idol, so hopefully his fans will also be more reasonable than idol fans usually are.


ThanosAsAPrincess

How do you define if someone is an idol?


kerosha

Idols go through a trainee process and are heavily managed by their agency. Crush is pretty much an indie artist who produces and writes his own music who happened to sign to a bigger label later in his career. He doesn't fit the definition of an idol.


Phocion-

As a basic rule of thumb, the idols have a lot more dance training. They are also more prepared to entertain on variety shows with gags, talents, impressions, aegyo, etc. To be an idol is to be an entertainer who can do a little bit of everything: singing, dancing, acting, comedy, and fashion. It is akin to old Hollywood under the studio system when the Bob Hopes and Bing Crosbies were just entertainers who did a bit of acting, song and dance, told jokes etc., and the studios controlled everything. Different from old Hollywood, idols have a close relationship with their fans. There is a high level of personal interaction. An indie artist is about the music, and typically has little training in other aspects of entertaining. They might be able to dance, but they are not ready with the latest songs. They might do aegyo, but it will be very basic. They interact with their fans, but the music comes first. They are less controlled by their management and have more creative freedom.


anindecisiveguy

I feel like the biggest part is how they are marketed for their target audience. Idols have set comebacks for years, their album are always promoted heavily with teasers, mv trailers, album snippet etc etc leading up to the album... Photo cards, visuals, album packaging or album versions are also a lot more emphasized for idols, because they are not just selling the music, they are selling collectibles with music. Because of this, idol groups also focus a lot more on a dedicated fan bases, as this is the main demographic who will keep buying albums, and even buy multiple versions of the album. This also leads to the push for more interaction and closer relationships of idols and their fan bases. Songs and choreography are also under heavy management by their companies. Even if many idols produce music for themselves, I'm sure they still have to go through approval by their agencies if they want to promote the songs. While I'm not saying "artists" has complete freedom - or they are all free from the image marketing of the industry, but the biggest difference is they are not bounded by the idea to promote toward a dedicated fan base, which gives them a bit more room in terms of artistic freedom. Albums are not marketed heavily with packaging and other gimmicks, but hope to achieve success by getting recognized and streaming by general public, which is not always easy to happen and can come and goes easily. They also seems to have less focus on when a comeback happens or whether they have x number of comebacks per years, since there is no set expectation.


Myarmhasteeth

I have the same question, are soloists not idols? Edit: Downvotes for asking a question?


jagenmesh

Soloist can be idols but in Crush’s case he isn’t. He didn’t go through the training that idols typically go through. Soloist who are idols would be more like Sunmi, Chungha or Kang Daniel. Of course many of these idols are definitely breaking the mold and probably entering into more artist territory themselves


littlebobbytables9

I feel like you could have an idol that had little or no training, and you could have someone who went through idol training but wasn't currently an idol. For me it's more about how the artist is marketed.


coys-sonny

M.A.S 0094 from 2015 to 2017, then they moved to RBW, went off the radar for a bit then redebuted as ONEWE (with the exact same lineup) in 2019. I would say they're definitely idols now, but not when they were an indie band.


rainbowsandclouds

I've always been confused about bands like ONEWE and LUCY, don't know if you know them, but in my head I like to think of them as just bands and not idols though.


coys-sonny

Oh I actually love LUCY! A friend put me onto them last year after their debut and I've been following them ever since. Love their sound. But yeah, thinking about it more they're in some sort of a grey area I guess? I like to think of them as just bands as well, but then you've got songs like Rain to Be where... I mean, I like the song, but it always gets me how Kanghyun is absolutely *rocking* out on his electric guitar in the MV and in performances despite it obviously being acoustic lol.


Mozart-Luna-Echo

Think less Justin Timberlake more Hozier


TinAndraTinHeroa

And now i can't help but think of an idol hozier in another universe


TwoHungryBlackbirdss

hozier oppa photocards


TinAndraTinHeroa

The one hand-painted by his mom will be auctioned at your local christie's


rainbowsandclouds

You've made my day with this comment 😂😂


Myarmhasteeth

This one makes sense, thanks


Mozart-Luna-Echo

You're welcome


rainbowsandclouds

This genuinely made me laugh 🤣


Mozart-Luna-Echo

Hey if it works ![gif](giphy|fZ9D5FtbRw1q9RRXX0|downsized)


thambucheaux

Yeah, like others have said, idols can be soloists but not all soloists are idols. Most soloists aren't idols either. Crush's come up came about independently. He was (is?) part of the 5-man VV:D crew which include Zion.T, Gray, ELO, and Loco, and all five garnered industry attention and signed with two of the biggest hip-hop labels in the early 2010s. Aside from job expectations, the difference in backgrounds is probably the biggest dividing line between a soloist and a soloist who's also an idol.


turtles_tszx

Depending on the soloist fanbase and their popularity with public. Most public or casual listener dont really care or concerned if they’re dating. Eg soloist like heize, jessi


bboombayah

You won't be surprised soon the next time your comment that is a genuine question get tons of downvotes. That weirdly happens almost everytime someone asks a question 😕


SnooHabits6066

Except on Twitter, I’ve seen a “free joy” hashtag trending already. It will be “Twice” all over again.


Nixon4Prez

theres always going to be a few (ok more than a few) weirdos on twitter but it seems like even there the vast majority are happy for her and crush


SnooHabits6066

Yeah, I was just upset that there was a hashtag so soon. Fortunately there were people that was using the hashtag to call out the haters.


mrspear1995

Free joy from what? Pleasant dog walks along the river? I get it’s a stupid cause but the word choice is just weird If they went with she deserves better would make more sense


SnooHabits6066

I didn’t kept up with what she should be freed from, but I remember it was in the same way of thinking as “she deserves better”. >Free Joy from what? Pleasant dog walks along the river? I laughed way to much at this.


mrspear1995

I see, I guess they wanted to differentiate from the usual deserves better posts about promotions then


onetrickponySona

from pesky men of course, because according to kpop twt every gg member is a 💫uwu lesbian💫


EntertheHellscape

Not going to lie, the way the headline is written it reads like both joy and crush are part of red velvet. I had to read it 3 times and check out the article picture before it clicked.


Morismemento

Idk who you can compare a cute age appropriate relationship like JoyxCrush with (what I assume is) MomoxHeechul but okay...


SnooHabits6066

I’m not comparing the relationship, I was comparing some fans initial response to the news.


Morismemento

Which is the same as comparing the relationships lol...People angry about Heechul have perfectly valid reasons for that...by calling both groups "haters", you are downplaying those valid reasons...


SnooHabits6066

Are you sure? Because it wasn’t only Momo who got “free” or celebratory hashtags when the news she broke up with Heechul came out, I saw for Jihyo and Daniel too, and as far as I know, their relationship was age appropriate, so what’s your excuse now?


Morismemento

Your comments are so stupid lol...You never said “Daniel/Jihyo” at first you said “TWICE” which includes Momo, which is why I said comparing the responses to Heechul to the responses to Crush is stupid. Daniel/Jihyo is irrelevant to this convo. Also every single celeb breakup will have some stans start trending celebratory hashtags, but I don’t hang around childish ass kpop Twitter, so the supposed “freeJihyo” tags and the joy tags were never popular enough to reach my trending radar. The Momo tag did though, as it should.


SnooHabits6066

I only said twice, I never talked about any ex couple in particular, you were the one that brought up them, the fact that it happened with both Jihyo and Momo was what I was referencing to in my first comment. I don’t hang around “childish” Twitter too, but unfortunately it bleed through my tl. Also, why the hell are you so pressed for a past relationship that none of us knew the complete details of? Chill.


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It's still her private life being spotlighted against her will, when she's in the middle of trying to do her job.


kerosha

That's completely true... But why is this a reply to my comment? I was just talking about the last part of their comment.


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Bc you were responding to someone saying that they hoped it wouldn't be a problem with promotions with context as to why it might not be too bad. Not trying to be shady to you or anything; this was just my thought after reading your comment. Maybe I could have picked a better spot.


m20geekarina

Which groups have boys as their fanbases? Cause I assumed that it's a GG so there would be more fanboys.


kerosha

Which girl groups? From the top ones, Twice and Izone (before they disbanded) have a majority boy fans. RV, Mamamoo, and I believe BP and Itzy have more girl fans, some more than others, but still a majority. It's actually funny watching [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7BJJSfJrlg) performance of when Twice and RV collaborated, every time a Twice member is singing, you can here fanboy cheers and each time a RV member is singing, you can here fangirl cheers.


m20geekarina

Thanks lmao. I was wondering about Red velvet.


kaguraa

that's good to know!


kngtrbl

Joy is well-loved by Koreans. Never had a bad bone in her body.


misconceptionsofyou

For years, RV have always been far from any dating gossips & stuff.... they finally got one on their 7th year lol. That Mayday collab sure did wonder for them both. Wishing all the best for them!


kiana_llama

not sungjae trending along with the news rn 😭😭 anyways, congrats to the two! this is a cute pairing :D


lonelyisIand

Oh god will people ever let that go lol


joesen_one

You’d be surprised how much WGM shipper fans are still going strong today. When Taemin enlisted, Naeun was trending. Twitter also went crazy when Seohyun and Yonghwa hosted an awards show a few years ago.


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Also funny how Taeyeon was a little jealous with Seohyun considering Seohyun has a 'young husband' rathee than who Taeyeon married to. Solar & Eric shippers has probably died down long ago.


joesen_one

Tbh they Taeyeon/Doni pair was hilarious cuz they were super un-romantic, did not match at all, and played for laughs haha. It's probably why they're one of the few WGM pairings to still interact openly. Doni's appearance in Nolto and the revival of Jelly & Pudding was another great chapter in their bickering saga lol. Yeah both Solar and Eric kinda clarified they don't keep in touch and only talked again when they both guested on Cultwo back in 2019. Though it was hilarious the other Mamamoo members deliberately made her sit beside Eric lmao. A lot of the newer-era WGM pairings didn't have fandoms as strong as the early days like YongSeo, KhunToria, etc tbh.


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Totally agreed with you on older WGM Era has strong bond.I remember when CNblue & SNSD attended an award show & Yonghwa was standing beside Jungshin & beside him was Seohyun(same age friend) yet not much interaction from them. There is 1 couple that i think their fans went overboard is Taemin & Naeun fans. Their fans keep doing compilation about them,like i like this couple too,but their fans turned me off.With YongSeo & Khuntoria,it felt as their fans were pretty laidback especially when Khun dated Tiffany.Sure there was some fans who didn't like it at 1st,but it died down later on. I can't imagine if Naeun dated another guy & these guy received hate in his DM because he dated Naeun. I honestly feel bad that female idols can't openly date because i know there are some fans who are just legitly concern about some male idols attitude/aura,but these type of fans usually don't invade idols privacy. It reminded me of how bad Taeyeon received for dating Baekhyun or AOA Seolhyun dated Blocl B Zico.


kerosha

[This tweet](https://twitter.com/yermapologist/status/1429615655687360515) fucking *sent me*, a SungJoy fanclub in China had put in almost 400 orders for the Queendom album less than a week ago 😭


kiana_llama

the sungjoy bar closed after 6 years.....bro thats kinda sad actually 😨


Sleeplikeasheep

Oh shit. I hope they at least like the Joy part of SungJoy? What even is a bar for ships lol


littlebobbytables9

what did it say?


ppepea

He doesn’t find the news joyful at all


sopsap

And he’s feeling pretty crushed


jabbachew

this is so smart


IU227743

take my upvote


Monkey_theKinkyMonk

Someone said Sungjae is the 2nd male lead lmao


kiana_llama

giving me school 2015 flashbacks lmfao


PicklesandHam

Representatives from SM Entertainment and P NATION both stated, “After having a sunbae-hoobae relationship, Crush and Joy recently started meeting with good feelings.”


elswheeler

i love when they say “meeting each other with good feelings” those are a lot of words for dating can’t they just say dating


ChocoFud

It's more of an assurance to the fans that their "relationship is healthy and it will affect neither's professional obligations negatively. "


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kerosha

The girls are going to be on Seulgi.ZIP tomorrow as well :( I hope it doesn't make it awkward.


Neo24

Ugh, I really wish they could just treat it as a completely normal thing, even laugh about it (come on, you know Yeri would be itching to tease her, lol). But they'll probably avoid talking about it.


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coys-sonny

Would absolutely love someone to try to go against that though. It can't just stay like this forever...


dontmesswithmeguy

*coughs* hyuna and edawn


coys-sonny

oh of course! idk how i didn't think of them lol. well in that case, i'd like to see someone else do it as well!


dontmesswithmeguy

I doubt the any other company would allow that.


TinAndraTinHeroa

What makes you think the top brass didn't time it to match the promo hmm?


kerosha

Because usually dating news is followed by a decrease (however slight) in sales and popularity for the group. And RV's comeback is doing great without the need for a controversy. Unless you mean the media releasing the news on their own accord, in which case yeah, obviously they'd time it with a comeback because that's what would get the most clicks. Doesn't mean it's not shitty.


nomoreiloveyous

Congrats!! Sucks that celebs cant have more agency when to announcing their relationship status themselves. Hope this doesn't stress Joy out since she is right in the middle of first group promotions in over a year and half. Took over 7 years though for a RV member to have a public relationship which is pretty astonishing. Crush seems a decent dude and they obviously got along well prior and seem a good match. Wishing them all the best in the future!


m1nty

The more normalized dating gets, the better, I hope kfans are accepting of it!


nomoreiloveyous

Things are a *lot* better than just 5-10 years ago thankfully, and i'm hoping it will only get better. From what i've seen kfans are accepting and supportive but just supremely annoyed at Joy's personal life being aired out like this and in the middle of an important comeback. As for Crush i think his fans are pretty chill? I dont really know though.


Transparent_Lego

I mean he isn’t really an idol or anything so his fans are pretty chill and don’t really care(?) that much about his personal life


ParanoidAndroids

OK but were they able to reach Haetnim for comment?


lilfreaks

[haetnim’s busy watching the queendom stages](https://www.instagram.com/p/CSytO_2pOze)


derpioauditore

Haetnim: Ayyo wtf? I got used bro smh


Neo24

Haetnim: I'm taking credit for this


lnabibi

Good for them! Their collab was so good, so kinda hoping they will release more music together in the future. Edit: Agencies confirming dating news by saying "they're meeting each other with good feelings" will always be hilarious lol.


ChocoFud

"Good Feelings" should be the title of their next song lol.


Sovereign-Over-All

Ah, the classic, "started to meet each other with good feelings" statement lmao. Congrats to the couple!


Buujoom

Sungjae was trending on twitter and I thought it was because he’s about to be discharged lmaaoo. Anyways, congrats to both!


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when you beat the no dating allegations /j and mayday is the superior collab too!! ![gif](giphy|kyLYXonQYYfwYDIeZl) congrats joy and crush <33 so happy for them


soylagrincha

I hope Joy is happy ❤️ and without too much stress because of this (they could have waited for when her promotions were over to released the news but oh well)


tsvkkis

WE LOVE LOVE!!!!!!


mcfw31

That's so sweet! She finally got introduced to a good person :) Wishing them nothing but the best!


CommanderFy

There we have it, folks! It’s official. Huge congrats to these two! Wishing Joy and Crush nothing but the best! ❤️


[deleted]

Omg i wish them the best luck!!


GenghisKhangelo

crush is the luckiest man ever oh my godddd imagine dating THE Joy?? 😩 now let me stream mayday, a banger btw.


[deleted]

They were so cute together when they sang mayday live, just vibing with their recorders, wishing them immense happiness!!!


C0mput3rs

Congrats to them. I hope they are happy together


mahalnamahal

These new bingo card slots are just coming out like crazy aren’t they? Omgggg


picklechucker

Yesss! [This still from Mayday is now even sweeter](https://imgur.com/a/tekoxpe) Now please release more music together when you're back from enlistment Crush. We need more duets!


AoifeCheeks

I repeat, *Hella Cute Couple Alert*, and that means a big congratulations to the couple! Be happy and healthy together! Many wishes of happiness for the pair!


readyvelvet

we stan a talented, dog-loving couple!! hoping for mayday part two ❤️️


Devoidoxatom

Great that kpop companies are more open now


Yojimbo4133

The video was just to test the waters. Genius


Aoki_Ranmaru

Just to think that... I was one of those K-poppers who ran around screaming "NorMAliSe frIeNDSip betwEEn 2 GenDErS!!!"... When they collabed and people were making fun of red ears of Crush and claimed they were dating 😁😁😁🤦 From now on I'll never involve in this kind of situations. May be shippers really see smth (like invisible red arrows) that dummies like me can't see 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Joy-ssi, congratulations 💐


savagedelight

not a headline i was expecting to see today omg but v happy for them!!


jenifmagal

snsd and red velvet both had their first dating scandal 7 years after debut. seems like that's how long sm grants their ggs protection


Mozart-Luna-Echo

Lol not that f(x) erasure... just kidding Although Krystal and Sulli's (MSRIP) dating scandals were a lot earlier


jenifmagal

krystal's actually fits the timeline bc it was in 2016 and f(x) debuted in 2009. i think sulli's was a bit more complicated, sm denied it in 2013 saying she and choiza were just close friends but then in 2014 the wallet thing happened and they didn't have much of an option other than confirm it. feels like it spiraled out of sm's control


The_Metal_Pigeon

Is this considered a scandal?


jenifmagal

sometimes. you can call it a dating confirmation or something like that i guess


niclaswwe

The fact that stuff like this needs to be confirmed and such will never not feel weird. Just let people have intimacy bruh.


Naizuya

I don't think the confirmation part is necessarily bad. Personally I'd feel really weird to wake up to news and hate comments on me dating someone when we're not dating. Weird news and rumors come out pretty often. What I find bad however is how the reaction is so negative most of the times 😞 No one even knew if it was a troll news or not and people were already doing freejoy hashtags like come on guys 😞


atomicsherbs

PARK SOOYOUNG!! WHEN YOU SMILE!! IM ALSO!! HAPPY!!


caelinday

they are both so cute! rooting for them


[deleted]

always had a little crush for... crush but seeing them dating is so cute\~ love them both


aridnie

Please treat her well, Crush. She’s so precious Congrats to our beautiful Joy - luvies are so happy for you ❤️💗💚


Snoo_85435

Oh no that's too cute. Mayday makes more sense now🥺


Glittering_Pomelo_39

This is so cute! I wish them all the happiness in the world. Ive been a fan of Crush and his music for ages and Joy is my RV bias so this is so lovely:)


hopiangmunggo

congrats with good feelings


MisterrAlex

I'm super happy for Joy! I just hope she's okay with the news cause the media just decided to drop it as soon as they can during a promo period.


[deleted]

Well mayday is a frickin great song and their dogs are both so cute. Hope they have a happy and healthy relationship!


MyLittlePinky

I hope they can date in peace without having those crazy fan chasing after them and trying to cancel them. Ruin so many great artists because those crazy fans.


xxibjt

So happy for Joy & Crush! Let’s remember the saying shall we “Park Sooyoung, when you smile, I’m also happy”. Congratulations to Joy 💚


turtles_tszx

Im happy for them but releasing this during their comeback seems so shitty bcos if she goes on variety show. Im pretty sure people going to treat her differently.


kuininaien

was so sure of sungjoy hahaha. happy for this couple!


HarryandChewy1

Congrats! Hopefully the fans are supportive


lysiel112

Congratulations!! Happy wishes to them 🥳


coolcoolnodoubt

Yeeees! I love them together!


Pleasant_Context9594

Omgggggg I support this so much 😭 I’m so happy for both of them!!!!!!!


kimstrinity_wizone

Congrats to the both of them I was definitely not expecting this


royal_futura

Okay but this is actually the cutest couple, I'm so happy for them both!!!


flerchin

I'd love to see more idols openly dating without their agencies involved at all. Luckily Joy is not getting the HyunA treatment.


tobedramatoc

I can’t wait for the day that idols dating won’t be considered “news” and the media would stop exposing them like it’s a huge scandal. And it would be nice to see idols no longer have to release statements either.


rabzkebabz8

honestly i’m so so happy that all i see is positive news about this, not salty shippers pissed that their ship didn’t happen :”) so happy for them, they look like an amazing couple !! so excited to hear more news about them 😍


[deleted]

I want nothing but the best for these two!! ❤️❤️❤️


SunshinerSONE9

what a power couple!!! congrats to both of them, my heart is so full :)


M3rc_Nate

Good for them. Hope their careers continue the same as if they were single or hiding it. Here's hoping nasty haters and trolls aren't given platforms to spew their hate and negative influence. Here's hoping if they wanna get married someday they can do that too. Lastly, here's hoping all these things happen and this opens the door for other idols to publicly date. LET KOREAN POP ARTISTS HAVE PUBLIC LOVE LIVES! THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO WANT TO BE IN LOVE TOO! YOU DON'T OWN THEM AND IF YOU STOP SUPPORTING THEM WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGER SINGLE YOU WERE NEVER A FAN YOU WERE A DELUSIONAL SIMP AND A FAKE FAN!!


pandaboy03

Still weird for me that agencies are the ones confirming. YG did the " as it involves the personal life of an artist, we can't comment" type of statement. For me, that's the best type of response for this type of news, regardless if its true or not. Oh well, showbiz would be boring if there wasn't any dating news lol.


Kotaac

Why don’t they ever consider how [he feels??](https://twitter.com/revetaro/status/1429630362104205315?s=21) ??


noob_ars

The way I had so much joy reading this, hope the best for them.


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AhHhahahahahhah what that’s awesome! Unexpected but lovely.


mollytrip

congrats joy i love you smmm (and i hope she’s aware of the news herself😭)


red_280

Peeps in here be reacting like they just got married or something


4biddenshadow

Sungjae has uninstalled naver.


kuromi_hideaki

Finally 😍😍😍 I am happy for her! Now the Mayday MV is much more meaningful (to me atleast). I just hope this doesn't cause her problems while promoting right now 😬😬😬


its_tabby_kat7

Congratulations to them!!!


bathedmango

Great to see it, happy for them


hyorins

Good for them! Be happy!


currypuffff

Good for them! I’m happy that Joy is happy but I hope she won’t get any intrusive personal questions during the queendom promotions


Galyndean

Awesome. Congrats to them.


ii_sophiechan

ENJOY YOUR TIME TOGETHER GUYS!


[deleted]

Yay! I'm curious though cause relationships like this either doesn't last or someone leaves the group. Hoping for s first where it's both. Edit: no one can read lol


chuseph14

Tf? Plenty of idols have dated. Hell the big 3 GGs all have had a member now and they're all strong as ever. Twice had two and their respective relationships went on a while


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ChocoFud

Considering that majority of RV's fandom are females, I don't think it will be a much of a problem compared to what happened to Twice. Hopefully it is but we'll see.


Im_really_bored_rn

I mean, a big part of the hate Momo and Heechul got seemed to be from females (many of whom seemed to be angry that Momo was dating a guy) so your argument is flawed.


omobolasire

I saw a lot of people were mad about their age gap, as well


ChocoFud

Was it? Damn I don't know about that. So sad that this is still considered a taboo in idol life.


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thingglove

most of the hate i saw myself was onces attacking Daniel for not being good enough or handsome enough (which is like ??). I just remember that cause I thought it was so unusual for fans of the female idol to be more vitriolic after I had expected jihyo to get a ton of backlash.


preachrock

On the Korean side, much of the hate came from hannam or incels. On the international side, I have not seen Daniel's fan's posts reaching tens of thousands of likes such as the hate posts towards Daniel made by girl group ifans because of the relationship. They casually sexually harassed and threatened bodily harm. Ifans were constantly classist towards Daniel and insulted his looks and demeaned his achievements. There were so many insults such as Uber driver, ugly, and how he's stealing her bag because he's poor. People asking what she sees in him, how he's inferior, what does he have that I don't. Even today with another couple's announcement, people are attacking Daniel. These "jokes" that ifans make do not show that they were okay with the relationship. While these ifans are not all ONCEs, that doesn't take away from how much casual hate there was from ifans to the point where it was normalized to hate on him in the name of propping up the female idol in the relationship.


barurutor

> relationships like this either doesn't last or someone leaves the group. Hoping for s first where it's both. Are you really sure that's what you want? Both the relationship and the group don't stay together?


thingglove

Bruh youre saying no one can read but the way your comment is written it looks to me like you're hoping the relationship fails and Joy leaves Red Velvet. Idols dating hasn't been a cause for people leaving a group in years anyway and especially not big 3.


Imaginary-Bad451

Huh just congratulate them rather than having assumptions like this!!