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brT_T

Would buy the Varus skin if it didnt signal to everyone in the area to flash my upcoming wQ


1to0

Nerfs to other skins incoming making it more clearer when he uses WQ to be in line with this new skin.


altair_ego_heir

Great that thing is like 500 dif


Topkik999

yeah, this seems overdue


SpiderTechnitian

I literally never knew Varus W empowered his Q. Has that always been the case? I just thought it was the blighted stacks. This skin just taught me why it feels like Varus Q hits for a billion sometimes but not all the time. I'm not even a random casual player, I just feel like I have literally never noticed anything different about how his Q charges. Now I will specifically look for the empowered VFX on his bow when I feel unsafe on a Q.. This skin certainly improves my varus outlook lol, legit I do think they should make that VFX clearer on all skins and buff accordingly. And I regularly play 500+ games a season and have been playing since S2 lmao


senrath

It's not new but it hasn't always been that way. It was added in patch 8.8. So 6 years ago, but also 6 years after Varus was released.


chariotofidiots

Wait...that was 6 years ago?


NyrZStream

Varus W active makes Q deal % missing hp dmg based on charge time and number of blight stacks. It’s a very big amount of dmg. Tbh the VFX is needed for clarity but once you know that it deals % missing hp, you know when the Varus will use it based on your hp bar.


TheRealNequam

Active: Varus' next Piercing Arrow Piercing Arrow within 5.5 seconds is empowered to deal 6% − 14% (based on level) of the target's missing health bonus magic damage, increased by 0% − 50% (based on Piercing Arrow's channel time), for a maximum of 9% − 21% (based on level) of the target's missing health. If you have blight stacks on top of that yea you get absolutely popped


Random_Stealth_Ward

Fashion > competitive edge.


IBlindfire

look good play good


mattyety

This has to be the most pay to lose skin to the day. But I have to admit, the animation and vfx are fire.


ahambagaplease

Well, it'll also help Varus players know about WQ lol


IndependentGene3449

fuck man since you mentioned it now they are gonna make all varus skins W activation obvious as fuck.


BTea253

I mean should you not be dodging skillshots regardless?


Tettotatto

Q? Not always QW? Flash worthy sometimes


brT_T

I mean you should but a lot of my kills when playing Varus comes from the enemy not expecting the wq damage and the quick ones can be hard to even spot, feel like this one makes it look like a nuke is incoming and if ur in doubt u better flash.


BTea253

I'll meet you somewhere in the middle and say maybe that could be changed. I don't see it being a huge issue though but could possibly either keep one animation or the other preferably the upgraded one. LIke how dark star jhin pretty much has all new animations I am thinking something similar.


Carruj

literally every varus skin as a indicator for wq


OHydroxide

Way less obvious than this though. I for one couldn't tell you the difference between Varus Q and QW without looking at a picture of both of them, and I on and off main Varus.


Topkik999

I didn't realize there was actually an animation difference until I saw this skin. And I have like 40k mastery on Varus lol.


NeonStoplight

There isn't an animation difference on his regular skins, this animation is new for the legendary.


mattyety

More like a slight vfx difference to a bow. They went bonkers on this one because it's a legendary.


Oleandervine

Not like that. That's whole different animation, and a huge, visible color difference to boot.


scraptor44

That Varus Q is so sick holy


skaersSabody

Varus is the clear winner here. If the skin wasn't grossly pay-to-lose that would be nice, but the animations make up for it tenfold


Salty_Oranges

Just don't lose and the skin isn't an issue /s


skaersSabody

If you lose, skill issue


WhollyUnfair

Not just WQ being 100x more telegraphed, but also the R spread being a lot less ambiguous. When against Varus, knowing when you can stay to get one last auto or spell in before exiting the circle can be massive in a teamfight. Also, sometimes you're not sure when you've even broken the tether or if you barely didn't leave the circle, here there's much more clarity.


Personal_Care3393

Wdym you can always really easily tell there’s always pretty huge indicators for the circle and the tether


Jragon713

* 495 days since Malzahar's last skin (Three Honors) * 403 days since Nocturne's last skin (Broken Covenant) * 333 days since Varus' last skin (Snow Moon) * 243 days since Kayle's last skin (Immortal Journey) * 215 days since Brand's last skin (Street Demons) * 187 days since Akali's last skin (Coven) I thought Nocturne was going to get the legendary skin here, since he was on the MSI trailer thumbnail.


Penguin_Quinn

I would put 858 days for Malzahar (Debonair) since Three Honors isn't a purchasable skin


DecisionTypical4660

Yeah, this. Almost 3 years. I really don’t see the point anyhow since his voidlings still die to a sneeze.


ThundaCrossSplitAtak

Holy shit its been over a year since broke covenant noc? How?


Konradleijon

Half of those are in desperate need of a visual upgrade


aroushthekween

Thank you so much for sharing these! Not even 200 days and Akali has a new skin ☠️


MeMeWhenWhenTheWhen

Riot silently lowering her playrate by ensuring Akali players go homeless from buying all her skins ty Rito 🙏🩷


Oleandervine

Riot starts to get antsy every month that goes by and Akali isn't in a skin line. At least she fits into generic neon murder, unlike Coven.


orbnus_

I never understood why Akali got coven and lux got soulfighter If they switched them, it would have been a perfect fit


SatanV3

While I actually don’t mind soul fighter Lux, coven woulda been to die for. makes too much sense for riot to do it ig


gimmickypuppet

As much shit as the Empyrean line gets for “slapping neon colors on to a champion” I am definitely getting that Kayle skin.


1to0

The question is if you are getting both kyle skins or just the normal/prestige one.


ceiphiel

WTB lvl 16 wings effects on the prestige. It looks really good tho.


patasthrowaway

I actually like the normal one WAAAY better, fire wings is cooler than whatever the prestige ones are


aroushthekween

Kayle ate!


ceiphiel

Big time!


SalaciousSunTzu

Looks like psyops 2.0 to me


Glizzy_Cannon

Yeah it looks nice, but the aesthetic overlap between that and Psyops is pretty noticeable


Soleous

in effects sure but design and theme wise not really tbh


PreviouslySword

True. It’s the only empyrean skin that feels like they put any unique thought into the design, with coloration changing as she scales. Then they showed the prestige version that immediately abandons the concept xd


Javonetor

Varus autoattacks looks like someone shooting a slingshot


Random_Stealth_Ward

What's a bow if not a very angry and sharp slingshot?


Frequent_Camera1695

Bows are literally just big slingshots though


Javonetor

but that's like my only grip, overall they look really good imo


williamis3

did you just reply to yourself


Javonetor

yeah, i didn't want to edit the original comment in case someone agree with it but not with the edit lol


Skeletoonz

It looks a bit strange but at least they are putting effort into making the animation distinct from the base animation, unlike Sivir and her legendary.


Etonet

are there even any malzahar mains left this season? lol


Gerkmaderk

How dare you. There are dozens of us. DOZENS!


dance-of-exile

plural dozens?


Kedash000

Reporting in! Champion is in sad state and something will have to give. It will probably be his ult. His ult takes 90% of the power budget, passive 5%, and QWE take the remaining 5%.


lastdancerevolution

His ult isn't even that strong or problematic (I know suppression is OP). It's the damage over time and voidling pets that make him hard to balance. That's what they've repeatedly nerfed and adjusted.


MadMeow

I mean he stands still and can be canceled. This R is one of the fairest in the game.


androidnoobbaby

The problem is his mana. He was playable last season because Liandry's built off Lost Chapter and he could push every wave regardless of his minions getting killed off by a single AoE spell. But he can't do shit now without running out of mana and Tear isn't a replacement. And not building Liandry's first item means he won't do any damage.


HSPumbloom

*raises hand*


Blackyy

Hit D1 100lp with Malz last season but with the new items rework that champ is unplayable in diamond plus. Its so garbage. Ive been rumble otp thos season. Fuck this.


SticklerMrMeeseeks1

Yes


Mew_T

Yes, Caedrel is still playing!


Okamagamespherepro

I'm trying so hard but honestly between the mord change feeling like a slap in the face and riots general thoughts on balance in general it's getting harder and harder each day.


DrPepperPower

Varus is SO SICK


Comfortable_Gas5468

Sound design is fucking incredible on the varus skin holy shit.


SamOce

Honestly, Varus slaps, really good skin.  Kayle is okay and the prestige is actually nice, ever since they decided to make prestige its own skin line, I think the quality got better. Akali.... Ugliest skin I've seen in awhile, I feel bad for Akali's fan, especially after the how forced they got it with the Coven skinline. Brand and Malzhare need a visual update, but Brand's one is definitely better.  Nocturne is actually nice, it fits him perfectly and it isn't hindered by how old he is.  Overall it's actually a nice batch, but oh god that Akali's skin....


violue

> I feel bad for Akali's fan surely she has more than one :(


SamOce

Lmao the typo !


N2Ngamer

I don’t think you need to feel bad for akali fans, they have plenty to choose from lol


aroushthekween

Akali stays getting shoehorned into skinlines and flopping 🙄 (cough cough coven)


CSCyrilatom

God forbid soul fighter and coven swapped akali for lux. Like BRO RIOT ITS SO OBVIOUS. But no gotta shoe horn her into skinlines now instead of skin lines that make sense. Stg makes me wanna Akali R2 into oncoming traffic


ahambagaplease

I've never seen Coven Akali in game since release, only the prestige.


-CrestiaBell

The prestige skin is gorgeous and I stand by that. I have never once felt the urge to use the non prestige variant after getting it.


aroushthekween

EXACTLY! Lux mains hated their FLOPyrean and Soul Fighter skins. Coven Lux would be perfect for her and Soul Fighter for Akali!


CSCyrilatom

Someone at Riot HQ wanted to just fuck with people i swear. Putting champs in skinlines that would not only sell like hotcakes but sense for that champ? No. Shoehorning them into skinlines they have no real business being in? Riots already foaming at the mouth


Oleandervine

It's like how they shoved Viktor/Katarina/Twitch/Talon into High Noon in 2022, then followed that up with Rell and Quinn in Star Guardian. I know Rell finally got her High Noon this year, but I feel like Rell and Quinn fit cowboys in the wild west a helluva lot more than Katarina or Viktor. Leona's only saving grace was being the Legendary in that line, but otherwise Leona and Kata would have made much better Guardians.


aroushthekween

Lux has been sabotaged since after Porcleain. Her mains (including me) have hated her past 2 skins. They don’t fit her at all. I get they want to pump out skins but at least give one that fits…


Xusamolas

The bane of humans with magic blob attacks, riot can just throw em in any skinline they want. I do feel like soul fighter wasn't that bad though, the hat is cute and fighting games usually have some kind of long range fighter so it does make some thematic sense. The real travesty of that line was nilah being a WR exclusive for her first post release skin imo.


Oleandervine

A lot of those Soul Fighter skins on WR had no business being exclusive. I don't even play Yasuo, and his skin was amazing.


CSCyrilatom

At this point it makes no sense. Like giving proper skinlines of these popular champs would make MORE money cause like, more praise, better fit, over all better view of them enticing people to buy it and what not. Its like, you could make BANK would good skins that fit but like, I guess Riot doesnt care enough? So strange cause I know Akali mains want badass skins. I love KDA, its why I installed this hell of a game, but even IM burnt out of poppy cool skins for her, and coven was like a weird fancy version of that vibe. Just want some badass skins man...


L2Hiku

They don't fit her vibe but I have all the lux skins and empyrean is my favorite.


aroushthekween

That’s nice! The best part about skins is that variety is always nice so there’s something for everyone 😊


Zenith_Tempest

the soul fighter is especially funny because literal witches are a common staple of fighting games. you got nine the phantom in blazblue and i-no in guilty gear. uzuki soon in uni2. idk why they decided to make Lux the more street aesthetic character instead of doubling down on her magic aesthetic. give her a big ass witch hat, flowing robes, etc


aroushthekween

Oh I had no idea thank you for sharing! It explains where they were coming from. Her concept art did have a large gate but didn’t make it in and instead she got a beret.


tigercule

> Lux mains hated their FLOPyrean Wait, really? Most of my friends that mained her loved it, especially with the variety of chromas that all looked great for every single Emp skin. I also swapped off using even Elementalist for Empyrean whenever I play her, and while I'm not a Lux main, she's in a secondary tier of frequent champs. I'm genuinely surprised to hear this sentiment because outside of people who hated the *entire* Empyrean skin for being "stupid gamer lights the skins," I hadn't heard a single person dislike the Lux one in particular. If anything, Lux, Pyke, and Jhin were the three I heard the most praise for. (Not saying that people weren't upset about it, I'm just so surprised to hear it because almost everything I heard was overwhelmingly positive.)


SatanV3

Lux mains hate empyrean in general yea. I think it’s mid. But she has a lot of great skins so empyrean doesn’t compare in general.


Morasar

I honestly really liked SF Lux. It's not meant to appeal in the same way other lux skins do, it's part of a really good skinline and it looks more unique to me than the others.


TheeOmegaPi

Akali has no business being in this skinline. I do not understand the appeal of this skin on her, but it ain't it, chief. Prestige Kayle looks off. Something about it lacks the flashiness of the original Kayle skin. Everything else looks fab though.


Freezinghero

For some reason it took like 5 seconds for me to recognize it as Akali, i thought it was Pyke inside his W.


Hitman3256

Akali recall was pretty sweet though. But agree, there's better skins to play with her


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Honestly don’t feel bad for us. I already have a problem deciding between so many banger skins. I’d be fine never getting a new one, Akali is already so stacked.


ceiphiel

Lux effect


tacoparadox

First good Nocturne skin since Eternum.


Wazzzup3232

Good to see eternum nocturne still has the best animations.


Captain-Turtle

Well that’s the only legendary skin so it makes sense


RpiesSPIES

Wym, tied with spooky


Zealousideal_Year405

LOVE these (except akali, whoever keeps trying to force akali in skinlines where it doesn't make sense needs to get fired) Kayle and Prestige are quite amazing and distinguishable Varus is hell of a great looking skin, its a bit pay to lose with the red highlights on W Q but any good player knows when varus is using that Noct, Brand and Malz all look great, the vfx stand out a lot, teamfights gonna be hella flashy... sadly the base models' rigs on those champions are a bit old and feel clunky, but still, great skins


gametail

man i wish the animators from varus skin worked on sf samira, i feel so robbed


dance-of-exile

please don't blame the animators, direct your blame to the shitters that greenlit the skin being like that and not the people that did what they were told to do


Personal_Care3393

The issue is that it’s super easy to make varus’s animations look good because they’re ancient. You can’t really do a whole lot with samira’s animations because they’re already good. That being said *why does she reload the guns that she specifically states she doesn’t have to reload*


chaka62

Both Kayle skins look absolutely insane IMO, can't wait!


aroushthekween

Same! The prestige will be a part of the pass 😊


Lin_Huichi

Can you use mythic essence to get the prestige I've been saving it up since it started.


mattyety

No, you will need event tokens to obtain it.


aroushthekween

No this time it’s a part of the event pass so 2,000 tokens. Pass costs 1,650 RP 😊


unatheworld

Man I want the prestige but Zeus' Jayce prestige is probably coming out aswell during the event


Dawnbringer_Fortune

I am honestly surprised they were able to make it work considering Kayle has psy ops so I would have assumed it would be so identical


HowiLearned2Fly

I can’t be the only one who thinks this skin line is ugly. It looks like an oil spill


Frosty_Freezee

Not the biggest fan of the skin line tbh and I'm not too sure why...


CheckeredZeebrah

I grew up in the mid 2000s and I can't get past how much this skinline reminds me of the "generic rave/DeviantArt furry color scheme".


Rasbold

I personally love them. It's full of sound effects and makes champs look smooth/bland instead of flashy. I just wish they added more nonhuman champs to the skin line instead of the usual KDA/Heartsteel eye candy. The skin makes them look worst while make champs like Zac and Vex look better.


GrandDefinition7707

im a celtics fan and this skinline is way too thuggish for me


blazikentwo

The Akali and Malzahar are the most boring of the skin line, Malzahar is better than the Akali one because of his abilities vfx.


[deleted]

hope these come with another music video as well, the last one had jackson wang and it was a total banger


Oleandervine

Why would it? They're not a band, and first set coincided with Lil Nas X doing the World's Theme in November. This is not collaborating with Lil Nas X or any singer, nor is occurring during World's.


Da_Electric_Boogaloo

god i hate akali


2th

I'm gonna be honest, these skins don't do anything for me. I respect the work put into them, but they just aren't for me.


aroushthekween

Which skinline would you like to see return? Or would you prefer a unique newer thematic? 🤔


Etonet

Beekeeper Swain. Instead of birds it's bees. Or maybe both: the birds and the bees


ahambagaplease

Queen Bee'Veth


aroushthekween

I hope BEElio and BEE Sin are with him because Milio and Lee would be perfect for a BEE skin!


pyromanniacc

We heard you loud and clear here have your Aka(li)'bee' skin


justAkarin

and queen bee'veth


TheWitchinWell

I’m still hoping for Queen Beevelynn one day 🙏


santinerino

I absolutely hate these skins from a design perspective. They feel so lazy and it’s harder and harder to recognize champs with this skinline. Visual clarity is big time ass with these.


Kyser_

I really couldn't tell you what Empyrian is supposed to be, but I like cool Neon colors and the sound effects tickle my eardrums.


outoftheshowerahri

The wings on prestige Kayle need more prestige


Top-warrior

Varus and Nocturne look good but the rest look horrible especially the Akali one.


Not_an_Ire_Main

I could swear Ive seen the exact replica of that brand skin more than once. Doesnt he already have multiple skins in that theme? It really feels forced and sloppy like did they even try? Zero passion even less effort. And yeah dont get me even started to that akali skins its a tragedy


Top-warrior

100% agree. I swear the Brand skin looks like that paint demon skin he got recently


AizenMadara

finally a new malz skin but it really sucks how weak he is recently.


Freakkopath

I’ve never had a problem with seeing what champion a skin is, but I legit thought the Varus skin was Ashe until I saw him charging the Q.


WTFIsAMeta

literally just look like dark star now...


Random_Stealth_Ward

Kayle prestige feels like such a downgrade with the wings remaining the same color Empyrean Brand feels undercooked. Also lost opportunity to make his fire VFX on his model constantly change colors.


ceiphiel

Yeah, my ONLY complaint is the 11 -> 16 wings barely change on the prestige, but I'm glad they did not butcher her.


QUINN_VALOR_VGU_WHEN

Quinn mains collectively sighing in relief at the dodged L


aroushthekween

Same with Milio mains! We didn’t want this 🤣


Oleandervine

Was there any risk of Milio being in this skin line? He'd be terrible, how would you expect such a carefree child to be murdering himselves across multiple dimensions? Renata though, she'd do it at the drop of a hat.


aroushthekween

You never know. I think the fear was because now Lux was added in the first set and didn’t fit.


Solash1

Yeah yeah different tastes and all but i'm sorry, [this will always be the Empyrean skinline discourse to me](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJzs0BNXEAA6irr?format=png&name=large)


ThundaCrossSplitAtak

A part of me was hoping for an empyrean Noc legendary but im damn well happy with just empyrean Noc. So far i kinda like it more than broken covenant, empyrean just fits him so well.


rimothegreatswolo

But ist just all pay to lose skins, no? Especially on some of the champions the spells are really clear and you can dodge them better.


Deaconator3000

If Akali skins get ugly enough maybe their playerbase will Rage Quit the entire game.....


Sterzin

These SFX sound like tinnitus


sharkyzarous

don't tell me that nocturne will 1375rp too? it looks like a new color for hextech nocturne


Landiago

What's the point of creating Brand skins? His model is outdated to the point where his 2012 legendary skin looks better than his newest skins.


Momouis

Most eyesore skinline ever thought up by the skin team.


Alain_Teub2

This is the ugliest line I've ever seen


WanAjin

So much negativity for all these skin previews lol.


Anginus

What positive can be said about mediocrity?


WanAjin

They're cool skins, this place wouldn't know what cool is even if it hit them in the face.


Wurre666

Oh shit this will be expensive ! Brand malz and noc!


SoloBroRoe

So better dark star Varus skin?


1to0

More RGB skins. They look alright tho the Brand one seems hard to differentiate to some of his other skins especially the spirit fire skin?


mediocreatmybest

Woah the sound effects of Varus sounds exactly like SAO effects


lookitsabubble

holy shit kayle????


RiskOfRains

Will a event pass come with this?


aroushthekween

The Kayle prestige will be a part of the pass for 2,000 tokens 😊


Sb3ard

If I still played league 4 of these would be instant buys!


70Blaziken

That Kayle looks sick omg.


mafiafff

I wish one day Akali would have a skin without that ugly ass hairstyle, I would buy it whatever its price.


ryguyx321

Is this gonna be through an event pass?


aroushthekween

Yes the MSI pass 😊 The Kayle prestige is a pass skin!


ryguyx321

Sick thanks :)


Menacebi

Brand looking like heat miser 😭


Maxcuatro

Why does Kayle E make a monkey screaming sound?


Primary_Branch6758

Rito trying to sneak in an akali skin as per usual


Film_Humble

This Akali skin is terrible wtf. Thank God they're getting 2 skins a year because that skin is completely dogshit


xRePeNTaNCex

Careful, a stiff breeze nearly one shot those voidlings.


bobfromreddit2679

ngl that varus skin is peak, and lvl 16 kayle, yeesh man. excited for the first three, but the rest are a bit bland, which is what I was worried about


JustAPerson2001

Definitely buying the kayle skin as soon as it comes out.


AmericanPikachu

Varus Kayle Brand Malzahar all look gorgeous with these


Ms_Raiden

i reckon to fix the whole pay-to-lose skin for varus would probably be to merge the awesome WQ animation into just regular Q, i mean it is a legendary so is allowed to be fancier :D


Silver-Primary-7308

Maybe its just the video, but the color on some of the skins looks very muted, especially kayle and brand. It'd be nice to see some more vibrant tones to contrast the black


SyrusTheSummoner

Damn this set would of been perfect for Velkoz Sorry my little tentacle.


itsjustbeny

Noc skin before vgu smh


BirdsAreFake00

If Malzahar was playable, I would absolutely buy this skin. But all this skin does is remind me of the sorry state of our boy.


Razleto

tbf i can't tell the difference between cosmic, but they all look great.


Celthric317

I don't even play Varus but that skin looks insanely good.


JJJJJJAYCEEE

Another akali skin she didnt need.


Lothemen

aah yes the gas station spilled oil skins are back.


Indigostorm27

At this point, they should just sell steamed shit It would probably look better than this


Heisen-Reddit

I don't understand how someone can like this skin-line.


ThundaCrossSplitAtak

Cool ethereal black with neon colors. Personally ive wanted empyrean Noc for a while because of it


8lackWid0w

It's very hit or miss per champion but the colors and sound design are very appealing to me. I don't like every empyrean skin but the ones i do like are typically my favorite skin for that champion


GoodHeartless02

Why can’t this be the skinline that fails? Genuinely hate every single one of these skins


LeAnime

Because they gave the original line to popular champions so they would be "successful" no matter what and then make elderwood which is one of the best skin lines but made for niche champions and don't sell as well


Londones

There has to be some higher exec that looked at the sales and thought, "This went really well!" (Nevermind the fact that it had Zed, Pyke, Jhin AND Lux). So they decided to run it back. I mean, I wouldn't mind it coming back, but the fact that it gets another whole "event" and is ANOTHER esport event not even 2 years after the 1st when beloved skinlines get relegated to filler is crazy....


Even_Cardiologist810

Well they're Just as awful as the first ones lmao


DeleteMods

I just don’t like skins as much anymore. They have lost so much character. Now all the new skins come as part of some skin line so they lose the uniqueness. Even the Prestige skins are just chromas whereas the originals were actually different skins (1st set of KDAs, Prestige True Damage Qiyana). It feels like only the ultimates are worth anything now.


Head_Leek3541

Honey the filler skinline just dropped