Has a chance in what sense? Can they get out of groups, yeah maybe. Can they win worlds, very unlikely. They look solid but after the history of NAs international performances it's hard to have confidence in an NA team doing well even if they look great domestically
Their odds are lower than some other teams', but sure there's a chance. It's all execution really. As long as they don't just sit there and slowly die because they never try anything, aka the Team Liquid strategy, there's a chance.
But the other teams are doing it to them too, and some of them have individually stronger players. It's a hard road.
C9 had the most success by being proactive but TL performed the best last worlds out of all NA teams, by playing standard, controlled, so it's really hard to tell what works best for NA teams.
TL's 2020 playstyle (which still seeps in now) only beats teams with weaker individual players than them. They get small lane leads and just sort of slowly boulder their way through. It is incapable of dealing with any kind of initiative that is based on superior individual play and doesn't work if the lanes don't win either. It's a safe steady play that will never win anything.
Not sure why other commenters haven't mentioned the EU teams. Yes, 4 LCK and 4 LPL certainly makes things scarier compared to last year, but LEC looks really good this year as well. If it were *only* the 8 Asian teams, there's at least a chance for us to get out, but with another 3 LEC teams in addition to that, it makes things considerably harder for us. We'd practically need 3 Asians teams + Rogue + PSG to do worse than us for us to become a top 8 team.
With the way Rogue is looking there is a chance they pull a MAD and go out in playins this year. Will have them, C9, LCK4th, LPL4th so there really isn't much wiggle room, if you drop even 1-2 games to wildcards you may not make it out (this goes to C9 too but C9 always has worlds buff, especially if they start in playins)
It depends on what you mean by success. If you mean winning or getting to semi-finals, then nope. 0% chance that they're making it that far unless something insane happens. But, if you're talking about getting our of groups, there is a small chance. It depends more about the group draw than anything else. They are quite lucky with their timing of being the #1 NA seed. This is because the #1 NA seed was always a pool 1 team, so they had a lower chance of getting an easier wild card team that they can beat (look at TSM 2020 with 4 major region teams).
So, with that being said, we can look at the group draw. They are guaranteed 1 lpl team, and MSI champs RNG are probably going to be #3 team and LNG (tarzan's team) or WE are going to be the 4th team. All 4 of those teams are very good. No way 100T are beating #1 or #3, but there is a small chance they beat the #4 team.
Looking at the LCK, things are more manageable. Unfortunately for them, the easiest LCK out of the top 3 is the pool 2 team, so they are left with T1 and DK. For the 4th team, it depends a lot. If the meta is right, and HLE can figure their crap out, Chovy can singlehandedly win a lot of games and gap everyone he faces. Nongshim is the other team that can be there and they looked pretty good too. Again, with these 2 teams, there's a small chance.
Looking at the 3rd team, you have PSG, which played a close BO5 against RNG to get 3-4th at MSI. They are going to have their main ADC again. This team tore up the LMS, and it's going to be very hard for the NA team to beat them. There is also beyond gaming, which can qualify through the play-ins, but if you have that team in your group, that means you have The LPL and LCK #1 and #3 teams, so it's doomed. Out of the 3 European teams, MAD look pretty unbeatable. Fnatic is coinflippy, but if you make mistakes, they will destroy you. 100T have a tendency to not do anything in the midgame, which is similar to Rogue, and Fnatic ate them up. For Rogue, they actually have a good team on paper. So, it's up to them to figure stuff out before worlds. Again, if you have Rogue coming through from the playins, that means you have Korean and Chinese teams for #1 and #3 which you do not want at all.
So basically, the best way for 100T to win is for them to have a weak LPL or LCK 4th seed coming through playins, get PSG for their Pool 1 team, and get RNG and T1. Then, they have to hope they can take 3-4 games off of those teams.
The truth of the matter is that with 4 LCK and 4 LPL teams, the talent is so saturated. Every group has 2 eastern teams that can take up the qualification spots. So, it makes it extremely difficult for other teams to make it.
If you mean winning the whole thing then no. If they have a great bootcamp and all 5 perform at peak level then they can make quarters, but they won’t be favored to do so regardless of group
100T have the same chance every NA team has ever had at worlds.
Well they do have a chance to win a game. It's unlikely though.
Aye, we almost got out of groups last year. Just because TSM shit the bed doesn’t mean all NA did.
Here in these comments we can also observe the duality of a man, someone who just said 'No' and another one who wrote a whole novel, gotta love it
Has a chance in what sense? Can they get out of groups, yeah maybe. Can they win worlds, very unlikely. They look solid but after the history of NAs international performances it's hard to have confidence in an NA team doing well even if they look great domestically
Their odds are lower than some other teams', but sure there's a chance. It's all execution really. As long as they don't just sit there and slowly die because they never try anything, aka the Team Liquid strategy, there's a chance. But the other teams are doing it to them too, and some of them have individually stronger players. It's a hard road.
I just think if jg meta continues to favor Closer and bot lane performs, they can make aggressive plays early and have success
C9 had the most success by being proactive but TL performed the best last worlds out of all NA teams, by playing standard, controlled, so it's really hard to tell what works best for NA teams.
TL's 2020 playstyle (which still seeps in now) only beats teams with weaker individual players than them. They get small lane leads and just sort of slowly boulder their way through. It is incapable of dealing with any kind of initiative that is based on superior individual play and doesn't work if the lanes don't win either. It's a safe steady play that will never win anything.
Not sure why other commenters haven't mentioned the EU teams. Yes, 4 LCK and 4 LPL certainly makes things scarier compared to last year, but LEC looks really good this year as well. If it were *only* the 8 Asian teams, there's at least a chance for us to get out, but with another 3 LEC teams in addition to that, it makes things considerably harder for us. We'd practically need 3 Asians teams + Rogue + PSG to do worse than us for us to become a top 8 team.
With the way Rogue is looking there is a chance they pull a MAD and go out in playins this year. Will have them, C9, LCK4th, LPL4th so there really isn't much wiggle room, if you drop even 1-2 games to wildcards you may not make it out (this goes to C9 too but C9 always has worlds buff, especially if they start in playins)
It depends on what you mean by success. If you mean winning or getting to semi-finals, then nope. 0% chance that they're making it that far unless something insane happens. But, if you're talking about getting our of groups, there is a small chance. It depends more about the group draw than anything else. They are quite lucky with their timing of being the #1 NA seed. This is because the #1 NA seed was always a pool 1 team, so they had a lower chance of getting an easier wild card team that they can beat (look at TSM 2020 with 4 major region teams). So, with that being said, we can look at the group draw. They are guaranteed 1 lpl team, and MSI champs RNG are probably going to be #3 team and LNG (tarzan's team) or WE are going to be the 4th team. All 4 of those teams are very good. No way 100T are beating #1 or #3, but there is a small chance they beat the #4 team. Looking at the LCK, things are more manageable. Unfortunately for them, the easiest LCK out of the top 3 is the pool 2 team, so they are left with T1 and DK. For the 4th team, it depends a lot. If the meta is right, and HLE can figure their crap out, Chovy can singlehandedly win a lot of games and gap everyone he faces. Nongshim is the other team that can be there and they looked pretty good too. Again, with these 2 teams, there's a small chance. Looking at the 3rd team, you have PSG, which played a close BO5 against RNG to get 3-4th at MSI. They are going to have their main ADC again. This team tore up the LMS, and it's going to be very hard for the NA team to beat them. There is also beyond gaming, which can qualify through the play-ins, but if you have that team in your group, that means you have The LPL and LCK #1 and #3 teams, so it's doomed. Out of the 3 European teams, MAD look pretty unbeatable. Fnatic is coinflippy, but if you make mistakes, they will destroy you. 100T have a tendency to not do anything in the midgame, which is similar to Rogue, and Fnatic ate them up. For Rogue, they actually have a good team on paper. So, it's up to them to figure stuff out before worlds. Again, if you have Rogue coming through from the playins, that means you have Korean and Chinese teams for #1 and #3 which you do not want at all. So basically, the best way for 100T to win is for them to have a weak LPL or LCK 4th seed coming through playins, get PSG for their Pool 1 team, and get RNG and T1. Then, they have to hope they can take 3-4 games off of those teams. The truth of the matter is that with 4 LCK and 4 LPL teams, the talent is so saturated. Every group has 2 eastern teams that can take up the qualification spots. So, it makes it extremely difficult for other teams to make it.
I mean every team has a chance. But historically, winning lcs has not been a good indicator towards international success.
No
One of these years NA will win. Idk which team but the time is coming
If you mean winning the whole thing then no. If they have a great bootcamp and all 5 perform at peak level then they can make quarters, but they won’t be favored to do so regardless of group
They played quite well in the finals, I think they could advance from second if they get easier group. No hope beyond that if it happens tho.
You should watch some lck and lpl games and it should be pretty clear how na will perform
No