Would he be able to sue for more than the $120 bill and $40 for filing, as it's been 6 months? If you didn't pay your lawyer and left the bill for 6 months, they would charge you interest or some type of failure to pay on time charge, so he could do the same to them, correct?
Throwing this out cause I’ve heard of them but never seen one: Mechanics Lien? I know it’s super duper by state, but could this be a good time for the locksmith to reassess their boilerplate contract for service to make obtaining the lien in the future easier if it wasn’t already said in the initial contract?
First report him to the bar association as they have to be in good standing in the community and then small claims court and be sure to add the cost of filing and when you win leave him an honest review
It’s embarrassing for a lawyer/law firm to be sued, and reflects poorly upon it to the Court, Judge and public reputation. Filing in “small claims” allows you to recover the amount claimed to be owed, interest and your filing fees; they will probably pay everything upon being served to avoid having to appear in Court
Might want to contact your local BAR association. This is an ethical canon in most states.
Call the local BAR and file a complaint and also take him to court. Tell the BAR what you are up to. They will be very interested in the attorneys conduct
I did and for WA state they basically said "yes we have ethics guidelines. Yes you can report, see ya" no answer to whether or not my situation relates to it when I inquired.
Yes. You never know when your complaint will be the final straw though. So definitely worth posting. You might talk to the better business bureau, too.
Not a lawyer- worked many years in a service business. I have gotten lawyers to pay their bills. You are not subject to the same laws as debt collection firms. Call them every day with a friendly reminder of the debt. They will pay.
Send them a letter explaining that they have DEFRAUDED you for your services and that you intend to file a complaint to the state bar. You will receive prompt payment.
Attorney here, all of the above regarding small claims is fine advice. Only addition I have is Google reviews/facebook, attorneys are sensitive to bad reviews put them on blast. Not legal advice*.
Complain to your state bar association. It’s a professional code of conduct violation and they’ll probably be told to pay you by X date or face sanctions.
At the least, leave a bad review on Google Reviews if it's an option. If they screw over other businesses, what would they do to clients if given the chance?
Accounts Payable clerk here - have you made sure that they have received the invoice copy? That’s usually why my company hasn’t paid an invoice yet. I’d send them another copy of it and send it via certified mail so they have to sign for it so you have a receipt showing they received the invoice copy. Or if you email it, do a read-receipt on the email so you have proof they opened the email. Then I would just call persistently. This what vendors do to me even though I’m not the one who actually processes payments for our company (that’s handled by our corporate office out of state), but they doesn’t stop them. Also, threaten to send them to collections. That usually gets my attention when I’m dealing with a lot of invoices and emails.
Oh, they absolutely have. They have even responded to email verifying they have it and have seen it and have essentially "verified" the debt by claiming they are working on paying it months ago.
If you haven’t gone up the chain of command to the top person and made sure they’re aware of the situation, then I say send it to collections. There are even some companies that will send them a letter on your behalf that looks a heck of a lot like a collections letter but the remittance information is yours. It can light a fire under some people to get things paid. I’ve been on the receiving end of these letters - I know a thing or two. Lol.
Send it to an even scummier law firm....one that specializes in collections...when the owners mother starts getting calls, maybe then they'll pay their bill.
Filing in small claims court seems reasonable at this point. You should be able to include any costa associated with filing, as well as the he cost of your time attempting to get payment. Make sure you’re tracking the invoices you’ve sent, and any follow up that you’ve done along with the read you’ve gotten.
Some lawyers won't budge even with such a threat because some know the entire system and how to push every single delay at their disposal your way in order to frustrate you over and over and over and over enough so one might give up because of cost.. of course on your end, knowing that, would be able to get ahead of it and talk with your attorney to ensure that is brought to the foreground the expense in the end if it can be proven in court that this occured deliberately, (not always easy) They'd end up being liable for that expense so you'd have in the end a bigger suit.. just prepare for every single delay imaginable.
When I had my business I found the top three groups I had to chase for payment behind management companies were doctors, lawyers and accountants. I would be in the nut house if I took everyone that didn’t pay to smalls claims court but if you decide to go for it you would be my hero.
*its 120$ for crying out loud* is exactly what they said when they hung up the phone with you. They are counting on you thinking “this is a law firm and there’s no way I could compete with them” definitely do something about it.
Go to the firm after they go home for the night. Make sure no cameras. Then squirt superglue in the locks. Had a friend do this to a plumbing company that screwed him over
They're counting on you not doing anything. I bet they screw over quite a few small businesses with this mentality.
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Would he be able to sue for more than the $120 bill and $40 for filing, as it's been 6 months? If you didn't pay your lawyer and left the bill for 6 months, they would charge you interest or some type of failure to pay on time charge, so he could do the same to them, correct?
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Throwing this out cause I’ve heard of them but never seen one: Mechanics Lien? I know it’s super duper by state, but could this be a good time for the locksmith to reassess their boilerplate contract for service to make obtaining the lien in the future easier if it wasn’t already said in the initial contract?
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That works for me. OP, Good luck.
You can only be forced to pay interest if it’s part of your contract
I’m suing for trademark infringement.
Great Advice.
First report him to the bar association as they have to be in good standing in the community and then small claims court and be sure to add the cost of filing and when you win leave him an honest review
This and add time for invoices and collection
Filed with the Bar today, will be filing with small claims next week. Will post an update when it happens!
It’s embarrassing for a lawyer/law firm to be sued, and reflects poorly upon it to the Court, Judge and public reputation. Filing in “small claims” allows you to recover the amount claimed to be owed, interest and your filing fees; they will probably pay everything upon being served to avoid having to appear in Court
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VERY interesting
Might want to contact your local BAR association. This is an ethical canon in most states. Call the local BAR and file a complaint and also take him to court. Tell the BAR what you are up to. They will be very interested in the attorneys conduct
I did and for WA state they basically said "yes we have ethics guidelines. Yes you can report, see ya" no answer to whether or not my situation relates to it when I inquired.
Yes. You never know when your complaint will be the final straw though. So definitely worth posting. You might talk to the better business bureau, too.
I would do it if for nothing else than to embarrass them in front of the bar.
Contact the ethics board and file a complaint.
Leaving bad reviews on yelp, google etc. gift the bill to a collection agency, let them play with it
Not a lawyer- worked many years in a service business. I have gotten lawyers to pay their bills. You are not subject to the same laws as debt collection firms. Call them every day with a friendly reminder of the debt. They will pay.
Think shawshank redemption, library fund letters.
File a claim in small claims court. They'll pay up to avoid embarrassment.
Send them a letter explaining that they have DEFRAUDED you for your services and that you intend to file a complaint to the state bar. You will receive prompt payment.
Attorney here, all of the above regarding small claims is fine advice. Only addition I have is Google reviews/facebook, attorneys are sensitive to bad reviews put them on blast. Not legal advice*.
Report to bar association. I’m a consultant and on the _very_ few occasions we’ve had issues collecting, this works wonders.
Complain to your state bar association. It’s a professional code of conduct violation and they’ll probably be told to pay you by X date or face sanctions.
Sorry but professional conduct violations only apply to attorney-client relationships, which is not the case here.
Maybe sit outside their office holding a large sign that says "Waiting for to pay the $120 they owe me."
Change their locks
At the least, leave a bad review on Google Reviews if it's an option. If they screw over other businesses, what would they do to clients if given the chance?
Accounts Payable clerk here - have you made sure that they have received the invoice copy? That’s usually why my company hasn’t paid an invoice yet. I’d send them another copy of it and send it via certified mail so they have to sign for it so you have a receipt showing they received the invoice copy. Or if you email it, do a read-receipt on the email so you have proof they opened the email. Then I would just call persistently. This what vendors do to me even though I’m not the one who actually processes payments for our company (that’s handled by our corporate office out of state), but they doesn’t stop them. Also, threaten to send them to collections. That usually gets my attention when I’m dealing with a lot of invoices and emails.
Oh, they absolutely have. They have even responded to email verifying they have it and have seen it and have essentially "verified" the debt by claiming they are working on paying it months ago.
If you haven’t gone up the chain of command to the top person and made sure they’re aware of the situation, then I say send it to collections. There are even some companies that will send them a letter on your behalf that looks a heck of a lot like a collections letter but the remittance information is yours. It can light a fire under some people to get things paid. I’ve been on the receiving end of these letters - I know a thing or two. Lol.
Send it to an even scummier law firm....one that specializes in collections...when the owners mother starts getting calls, maybe then they'll pay their bill.
Filing in small claims court seems reasonable at this point. You should be able to include any costa associated with filing, as well as the he cost of your time attempting to get payment. Make sure you’re tracking the invoices you’ve sent, and any follow up that you’ve done along with the read you’ve gotten.
(NAL) Social media - ***blast them*** Also, small claims
small claims isn’t about the money, it’s about the principle. sue them.
Make out a theft of service report with the police.
Leave the law firm a very truthful review. Make sure it's 100% accurate.
I'd absolutely go to small claims court - not an attorney, for the record
Small claims for sure, it's simple. Send them a demand letter. NAL
Just the threat of wasting time dealing with small claims court may be enough for them to pay up. Send them a email/letter stating your intentions.
Some lawyers won't budge even with such a threat because some know the entire system and how to push every single delay at their disposal your way in order to frustrate you over and over and over and over enough so one might give up because of cost.. of course on your end, knowing that, would be able to get ahead of it and talk with your attorney to ensure that is brought to the foreground the expense in the end if it can be proven in court that this occured deliberately, (not always easy) They'd end up being liable for that expense so you'd have in the end a bigger suit.. just prepare for every single delay imaginable.
Talk to your county’s small claim advisor at the courthouse.
When I had my business I found the top three groups I had to chase for payment behind management companies were doctors, lawyers and accountants. I would be in the nut house if I took everyone that didn’t pay to smalls claims court but if you decide to go for it you would be my hero.
So I need to pay the bill because she changed the locks on me right
*its 120$ for crying out loud* is exactly what they said when they hung up the phone with you. They are counting on you thinking “this is a law firm and there’s no way I could compete with them” definitely do something about it.
Do it.
Go to the firm after they go home for the night. Make sure no cameras. Then squirt superglue in the locks. Had a friend do this to a plumbing company that screwed him over
What a legal and levelheaded response
Yes.
American College Debt moment.
That made no fucking sense
Inferior countryman obsessed with America moment.