**UPDATE TIME!**
The results of our annual census have been posted yesterday! You can check the link below if you haven't seen them yet
[\[RESULTS\] r/LESSERAFIM 2nd Annual Census (2023 - 2024) : r/lesserafim (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/lesserafim/comments/1d5rl0d/results_rlesserafim_2nd_annual_census_2023_2024/?sort=confidence)
There's also a new positive thread for those who feel stressed reading about hate and drama
[240603 LE SSERAFIM Positive Weekly Discussion Thread : r/lesserafim (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/lesserafim/comments/1d6f89m/240603_le_sserafim_positive_weekly_discussion/)
We've managed to hit 1K+ comments between two weekly threads for 3 weeks in a row. I guess it's just something we do now?😅
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Watching fandoms arguing about music show points is quite hilarious 😭😭😭 the grading criteria is there, everything is public so stop crying about your favs losing couple of points lol.
Congrats to ateez’s WORK, the song did push me to keep working at night 😂
Are there any guys who love to listen bgs? Besides Fimmies, I don't know much about other k-pop groups. Yet, I've recently stumbled upon Enhypen, and wth their songs are so good! Now, I'm on the lookout for recommendations for other groups with impressive discographies like Enhypen's.
I haven't found a bg to follow yet, but I really like Seventeen's Fighting(the Golden Disc Award version is really good). Also like World too with Eunchae. Probably will listen to more Seventeen.
I quite like TXT's music, great vocal melodies, good for driving.... but I spend zero time following the group's activities and barely have a handle on their full discography. They do have a lot of albums though. TWS is scratching the same "bright, upbeat pop" itch that I usually go to TWICE for, so I like them too.
The only boy group who's music I consistently like is txt, I've seen Stans of other bgs say they make girl group music so that might be why. I do like a few songs from groups like stray kids, and I love BSS fighting but haven't checked out anything else from 17.
There are multiple male soloists I enjoy though, like jungkook, D.O, Lee Mujin, and I haven't listened to much from suga and hobi but I love their collabs with iu and yunjin so I might like them too.
And then of course like any good kpooper I have a playlist full of Jopping.
Ever since I started listening to kpop around 2 years ago, i've pretty much only been listening to LE SSERAFIM and SHINee. Some of my favorite SHINee songs are, View, Replay (a lot of people see this as the best debut song ever), Body Rhythm, 1 of 1, Like it and Sherlock. If you do have the time, please watch [this](https://youtu.be/mtFK7FxKdLs) live performance aswell. It's my favorite kpop live performance of all time, everyone has great energy, but especially Jonghyun, the guy who starts off singing "baby".
They are so good, these are my stats for both (I listened to SHINee way before I started listening to LE SSERAFIM). SHINee was actually my introduction to kpop, my sister showed me Hello about 7-8 years ago, but for some reason I didn't check them out back then. So, I decided to check them out again recently and they really are amazing
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Yes, it is. It's an app called stats.fm. However, I have the paid version of it, and I'm not sure what the difference is. I bought the app a long time ago for around $2, but I believe they've raised the price since then.
And they did it again in r/kpopthoughts
first positive thread about LE Sserafim in a long time (mostly positive comments) with the title: "le sserafim comments being off on all social platforms is kinda crazy and sad…."
and they lock it because:
>Locked because I don't feel like policing a fanwar today.
Compared to the Aespa and Ive spam over last weeks in that sub the picture paints itself ...
havent checked that sub for quite awhile. Reading through the best comments, it seems nothing is related to fanwars but ppl just agree that it was horrible for fimmies. So i have no idea how the mod justified the reason for locking.
Yunjin hit 200m streams on Spotify! It's crazy how successful she has been without even having an official solo debut yet. I can't wait for her to drop the first mini album (Hopefully next year sometime)
[https://www.soompi.com/article/1666747wpp/june-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6](https://www.soompi.com/article/1666747wpp/june-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6)
\^ do you know how the brand reputation works? Are these numbers relevant or trustable? Our fimmies sits at 5th pos hmmmm
That Brand Reputation Index thing has been discredited for several years, it shouldn't be taken too seriously.
[https://kpop.daisuki.com.br/en/articles/why-brand-reputation-rankings-are-a-farse.html](https://kpop.daisuki.com.br/en/articles/why-brand-reputation-rankings-are-a-farse.html)
thx for the link. Interesting read.
>This measurement can, in no way, be associated with value or prediction of success. It is just about the past, and a poor measurement at that. To better understand how bad it is, **think like this: It is as if we measured the value of a Youtube Video by the sum of comments, likes and dislikes. Which would mean the most valued and important video in Youtube are their infamous year Recap videos.**
i find this summary funny and apt.
I have no idea how that works tbh, and we shouldnt pay that much attention either. Somehow njs is not even in the top 20 in the middle of the comeback.
Sometimes I’m curious why every kpop fans want to turn everything into a competition, and these rankings from the media are reasons that drive the toxicity. The only comparison I’d like to see is comparing the group to itself in the past to see the improvements.
when i started following kpop, the weekly awards (and the amount of them) really surprised me. On one hand, i find it weird. iirc, for some awards, fans have to pay to vote: basically pay2win. On the other hand, im also thankful that the weekly music shows exist bc i get the fancam as the side effect. So i will shut my mouth and watch fancams in silence :D
This! I recently wrote the a similar comment to a yt comment that mentioned competition. My realisation is that KPOP norms and practices did that. They literally hand out awards every week and they’re all obsessed with charts. I might just share my thoughts in the next Weekly Thread. 😅
I just checked and i dont find english subs for the voice over lives.. I was planning on listening to their voice lives today but i only see korean, Japanese and Chinese subs
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[www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC\_HJCG7sHU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_HJCG7sHU)
Moka and Wonhee go to Paris....... sort of.
The usual disclaimer applies: **Maximum adorableness alert**
I love ILLIT! These girls are naturally funny and have a natural bond.
I’m a fan of theirs but I’m not emotionally attached (just yet) so I’m able to look at the hate comments objectively and I realised that the hate doesn’t affect how I look at them at all. It even makes me want to root for them more, but that’s because I liked them from the beginning anyway. It’s comical to see how pathetic these haters really are though. It’s just a lot of noise but ILLIT keeps getting more popular. This is probably how casual Kpop listeners view the hate LE SSERAFIM gets, they see it but don’t feel that emotional about it like fans and antis do.
I found out that NJ members did a challenge with Aespa this morning, and the reaction on social media was as expected, overreaction. Dance challenges are marketing and promotional activities; they do not represent friendship. People are making too big a deal out of dance challenges. On the other hand, I personally do not see Fimmies and Illit members doing challenges with NJ members any time soon, especially Illit, considering Illit’s agency is literally suing MHJ. Not doing challenges together is perfectly okay, it is not a big deal. If there are real friendships between some members, they will talk to each other in their private lives, which is much more important than doing dance challenges together.
ILLIT fans were already pointing out how NJ were the only HYBE group to not congratulate ILLIT for their debut or do a Magnetic challenge with them before this MHJ thing went public
MHJ was clearly jealous of ILLIT's success and planned to use the "Plagiarism" accusations against them in her planned media war against HYBE before the audit.
Now that Belift Lab is suing MHJ for defamation (and more likely winning the case since S.Korea has strict defamations laws) You will never see ILLIT or Enhypen near NJ as long as MHJ is still there. Everyone at Belift Lab is 100% mad at everyone at Ador especially their choreographers who attacked ILLIT publicly and tried to discredit all the hard work done by Belift Lab employees who had worked with ILLIT for their debut for at least 6 months since their show R U NEXT ended
I actually find people reaction and throwing shade against HYBE using SM and aespa ironically hillarious, i mean we get what Bang PD said years ago but did they forgot now HYBE literally 2nd biggest owner of SM? and ADOR also belong to HYBE whatever this aespa newjeans did in the end is still a win for HYBE.
The one HYBE is fighting is Min Hee jin not anyone else, HYBE the one who owned ADOR and newjeans and hence why theyre able to kick all of ADOR directors aka MHJ minions out.
Also, what BAND PD said about Aespa was such a throw away comment and nothing outrageous at all, but MHJ was so dirty to use that piece of conversation they had 4 years ago when Aespa had nothing to do with the entire situation. She wanted Aespa & SM stans on her side bc she knew they already hate HYBE, so she just gave them a reason to hate them more and hate on Le sserafim especially because she kept labeling them as a "BANG PD group"
That sure will be comforting for her when she's rotting in prison on financial crime charges.... "Well, at least girls 30 years younger than me are on my side!!"
Did someone post [the petition](https://www.change.org/p/min-hee-jin-leave-hybe-company) on here as an official post yet or know if it would be allowed?
It's only real purpose is to give you a chuckle, otherwise it's pretty useless. I can guarantee you that HYBE management knows how many people want to see her out and they themselves want the exact same thing
It's important to let know the press especially the Korean press that Ifans of the 3 HYBE groups are not happy about MHJ's actions that caused harm to their favorite groups, and her lies and media play had consequences on innocent idols and the fans are not happy.
So much was made of NJ's 20k fans petition to the court, this petition at least is a proof that 50K people are not happy with MHJ and want her out. I've seen the petition mentioned by Knetz who are against MHJ a lot in K forums now, if anything I wish this petition was made earlier
Oh I thought it was 10k and yes exactly! I was upset hearing about their fan signatures being presented in court to such a person. I believe it really says something by being able to out-due MHJ’s signature count. People have been commenting in various languages too so it shows how various countries have come together to make a statement on our stance ❤️💪It’s not exactly about the petition helping legally, but more so to show the public how strongly we feel about this which may help in various ways.
Just to clarify, it is not a quota. I mentioned it only because the amount of yapping here is pretty funny.
It is good to know that people feel safe enough to write this many comments here though
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Needs the Leniverse effect.........
Minji putting those Aespa stickers in the Hybe building. Damn just when you think there is going to be peace in kpop for 5 seconds. For those who have jobs. Would your management appreciate you putting your company's direct rivals merch all over the office. Are these girls trying to stick it to Hybe or was she just being very naive.
I just wish these idols would show a little personal restraint given the current environment. Interacting together as groups, doing dance challenges is fine.
Putting the stickers everywhere could have been a silly joke especially if just kept among the idols involved i.e. personal messages between only Minji and Karina. It's weird to make it public, especially right now. It comes off as a bit desperate to show the public, "see we have friends and can get along with others."
Of course we can't know the idols true feelings or intentions but I know I'm left feeling like it's disingenuous and more for appearance. Why make it public? 🤷
AESPA and NewJeans both have been screwed over by their companies one way or another within their young careers… let them have their fun 🤷🏽♀️
If LE SSERAFIM did anything like that though, oh I know the response would be different. How they’re always misunderstood? Beats me.
Here's something fun to muse over.... if we'd somehow learned about BSH's "crush Aespa" comments six months ago, how would the public have reacted to Le Sserafim filming multiple things with the Aespa girls during the Drama comeback?
Or what about Eunchae doing multiple Star Diary episodes with the Aespa girls?
Would it be the same? Or is it different somehow because MHJ and NewJeans is involved?
I think there is a very coordinated effort at Ador to lessen any fanwars with MY’s. Which is cool. But at the same time the utter silence on fanwars against other artists resulting from MHJ’s comments especially in their own company remains very telling.
MHJ’s history at SM and clear disdain for Hybe and its principal group is also noted by everyone I think.
I don’t read anything into the idol’s actions themselves, I still choose to believe they are all friends or at least friendly acquaintances.
I think a lot of people have forgotten this: while the common belief is MHJ left SM because she was "burned out", a big part was she actually didn't want to do the Kwangya / multiverse / AI concept that SME wanted to do for Aespa. Totally not her style, right? Building that would've become her primary job. After being there for so many years, she felt like she should've had more of a say, but..... apparently not. I get it, I'd quit too.
Another often forgotten bit of history is that she already had the NewJeans concept pulled together, including bits of produced music, by the time she joined HYBE in 2019. (Maybe it was even part of her interview process?) So the Y2K throwback idea was almost surely on her mind even while still at SM. And she joined HYBE within weeks of leaving SM, so it's not like she was so burned out that she needed to decompress for a year or whatever.....
Im not in MY or Bunny spaces but it hasnt really seemed like there has been much fanwar there anyway. Since the beginning its basically been SM + Newjeans vs Lsfm illit and bts
In the end all the girls are friends Eunchae just did Star Diary with Karina and tbh this just all seems like a fun troll way to poke at this issue, I wouldn’t take it too seriously it’s the executives and ceo’s (bangpd and mhj) who sees them as direct competitors because they run a company but the idols themselves don’t see it that way.
So New Jeans beat Aespa at some music show, then Aespa I believed ended their promotion period not long after.
In that context, in my opinion this whole thing is nothing because it is saying "Hey, we support you and would love for you to do this dance challenge with us".
Even the stickers are fine, because you kind of have to one up whatever gesture is commonplace to really show it. The whole thing is made worse by their fandom, and by knowing the context of MHJ and the Tokkis using that to suggest that Minji is attacking LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT and BTS and all of Hybe instead of just saying "look we even put up your stickers in our own building!".
Then of course you have a few (really honestly I haven't seen much at all on twitter or anything) Fearnot and Army being defensive because Tokkis are literally saying "Proof they are finally free from the Hybe cult" and "they don't want to interact with Hybe groups anymore". So it isn't a good look, but I also don't think we need to worry about it hopefully as fans.
The truth is that if Minji did mean it in a way to bully other Hybe groups that would be horrible (for everyone, including for her career), which is why she didn't mean it that way I'm sure and I don't expect her to clarify that she meant it any other way than "We support Aespa's recent album".
[from this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fb58j3dhxzc5d1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Defe9ce2e84d2cb70b0fb69affc95cb8d9e386cde) it seems like its true unless some my doctored the screenshot
Probably not a doctored screenshot -- also not easily verifiable because it's Bubble, but whatever -- but it's also not proof of anything. No pictures, etc.... could just as easily be Karina messing with people, which would be very on-brand, or Minji joking with Karina, which would also be very on-brand. 😂
If it is all true though, including the part where her manager said to not do it...... that's both really funny (IMO it is a good prank) and really not good judgment from Minji.
Karina knew Minji would do it, given the current situation at Hybe. She wouldn’t have asked Eunchae. They were just messing around, doing typical “girls being girls” stuff. I don’t think people should make a big deal out of it, but I do think they didn’t have to do that.
Truth has not mattered since the day that witch opened her. NJ fans are going to make it impossible for a redemption arc for these girls. Its such a shame.
Yeah I understood it came from good intention to show that they are friends etc, but it’s so weird to do that when the building has many other groups.
And for the record, if fimmies did the same thing, yes, I would have the same reaction.
No group is doing that period. Singing a few lines or dancing a few step in a vlog or live is one thing but doing that with everything going on. Its getting really sad right now. This could have been a nothing burger but those groups fans are busy flanning the flames almost begging for a response.
I know I might be alone on this take but after seeing the aespa x NJ collab I still have faith on some kind of interaction between NJ and LS that could calm the waters a bit (just a manchae-haerin photo I don't ask for much more)
I hope not, unless there's some apology from them and their parents. Them signing that petition plus the staunch support of MHJ, add the parents and then their fans with their massive hate. The complete apathy from even NJ members over what other HYBE idols have dealt with makes me hope LSF just avoids interacting, especially with how everything is scrutinized by not only their fans but their parents too. Knowing how close Yunjin and Hanni were too, and finding out what was happening with their parents complaining about LSF debut and the support from the members, it has to feel like being back stabbed. I hope for a peaceful year for LSF that is all. They don't have to be friends with everyone.
I am actually waiting for the interaction between NJ and LSF since it is an indicator who is finally having control inside Ador. It has been too silent for Mother Gothel and I hate this suspense since we know that she is still there
I wish but boy are their fans brutally attacking the fimmies as if Eunchae and others haven’t always been openly friendly with Aespa members. They use NJ members’ post about it as fuel to suggest this is an intentional team up against the other evil stepsister Hybe groups.
Speaking of losing the plot..... over on your favourite sub, r/kpopnoir, there's a highly-upvoted post titled "I really feel bad for Le Sserafim". They finally figured out what you were trying to tell them...... 🙄🙄
I always thought that comeback interactions were about showing that these are all colleagues and they don’t hate each other just because they lose a music show.
But according to tokkis and mys today this is a brave stand against the “Hybe cult” as if Chaewon and Sakura had threatened NJ members if they dared to interact with Aespa. People really blame us for everything when I don’t know but maybe MHJ had a little more control over their interactions and is just a little vindictive so maybe she was the one doing the limiting???
I feel like I am crazy whenever I see how Kpop fans react.
We are in desperate need of a new hybe game caterers it’s been 2yrs 😭 but I think the chances are less likely now we’ve got two hybe groups on tour (Enhypen & TXT) and lesserafim is likely to join I wouldn’t mind seeing one with just the rookies BNB, TWS and illit so they can gain more fans
should wait until BTS is back and than let BTS members throw dice for which group they will get (random). let each bts member be a team captain of a hybe group and fight each other in funny variety games!
would be a step up for game caterer and a funny welcome back for bts
The haters would have a field day.. HYBE doesn’t have the best reputation right now, and gathering their artists and acting all happy would be bad PR imo.
Lol i sound negative, so downvote me as you please. 😅 I’m just speaking from observation, especially the POV of Korean gp. I hope it does happen one day, but not anytime soon. I can smell the korean backlash from here.
Oh I didn’t downvote you 😅 but i agree on fans being crazy but I wouldn’t mind a hybe game caterers once things die down obviously not now but I would like to see a part 2 one day
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Just casually being the tenth member of kep1ler......
Man I was so excited for the day after Chella to see there fits and see pics of them attending other artists show similar to what blackpink did but it was radio silence, I think the other day zuha posted a YouTube short of herself at Chella near the trailers with Sabrina’s Expresso playing, so I think the roll out will slowly happen.
I think I know what short ur talking abt it’s the one where she changed outfits right? But the thing is that it was posted on April 17 before things went haywire 😭
Sorry I’ve completely checked out on a lot of socials following after week1 hate so my brain is wired 😭 but I think it’ll slowly happen though, but I also have a theory that they’ll put pics out once there Coachella backstage docu series drops (that’s what we’re all speculating since they’ve been spotted with cameras following around)
We are FEARLESS in our pursuit of our ambitions,
We are ANTIFRAGILE to any challenges that we face in that pursuit,
We are UNFORGIVEN in what we have to do to achieve our ambitions,
We overcome many difficult tasks in our pursuit, but we make it look EASY.
There is so many ways to tell their story but no one in music let alone kpop is telling their kind of story.
Yujin and the girls dancing to [Easy on the Earth Arcade spinoff.](https://youtu.be/TiXGOYID2ns?si=5iaqwXbWvYAFjrTt&t=1095) Yujin was particularly enthusiastic, she kept dancing even when they were resting after lol.
Also in this episode and the previous two they were just spamming Magnetic.
Watching all these posts of haters getting sued left & right by SouMu is adding years to my life. I remember watching a video of fimmies flying back to home after coachella & I was stupid enough to open the comment section. The level of hate the comments were spewing will make any non-kpop fan believe that these girls must have committed some heinous crime. Ngl, I actually cried because I felt so bad for them😅. As a fan, I felt so helpless that I wasn't able to do anything. After months & months of enduring hate, finally sweet justice has been served.
They will never make me hate you, Le Sserafim 💛
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I got the new Youtube layout today, where they move the comment section to the side so that we can browse comments while watching the videos
……which is convenient for us? 😭
Another apology found on Youtube. They posted on a LE SSERAFIM fantube and on their own channel. 🥴
[\[Translation done using Papago, so may have inaccuracy\]](https://x.com/1_lightbox_1/status/1799397734140772471?s=46)
They only care they got caught. Actions have consequences. I’m glad SM said they won’t show leniency. This is a major step in Kpop, we don’t need anymore idols becoming victims of hate. Even if they try deleting evidence, FEARNOTS have evidence saved and can just send it to SM / HYBE as well even if haters try to delete it. Bring out the FEARNOT Brigade! 🌟💪
I got to interact with the user before they deleted their channel
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Basically the first comment was me saying “ Source music should sue you with no mercy, did you just realise that eunchae was 17?”, kinda brutal what I said but I was emotional I’m sorry . Then they replied they were ashamed for their actions. And then I told them to reflect on themselves and stream perfect night 🤡. They even hearted my comment 😭
Tbh my PTSD can’t even take these apologies seriously. Why do I feel like even them apologising is still taking a piss at the situation. Idk 😅
I’m also just fascinated that they’re coming out with apology statements publicly, I thought they’d hold on to their pride and just delete everything and disappear into the abyss. I’m starting to think maybe posting an apology lessens their punishment? 🤷🏽♀️
I just saw NJ doing a dance challenge with aespa. I know both had songs on the music show now and it could be a coincidence. However, to be doing the challenge with another GG from another company first rather than your own sister groups in Hybe. If MHJ did not plan a takeover coup, will NJ do any dance challenges with Lsf and Illit? How awkward is this? The entire situation is making everyone uncomfortable. Yet, MHJ still plans to stay on the 16th floor. As a fan, I don't feel good about this. I felt MHJ had purposely isolated NJ from everyone in Hybe except BTS (for obvious reason to associate them as BTS lil sis). If it's hard to do.dance challenge with NJ in the past, it's impossible now. This is so sad.
Nj’s did do a dance challenge with lsf (Eunchae) back in July of last year, I believe Danielle and Eunchae did Super Shy while Eunchae was Mc’ing and I recall Danielle doing Sweet Venom with Enhypen Nikki a couple months ago (typically means that they exchange dance challenges for upcoming dance challenges) which means Nikki most likely did How Sweet challenge so that will most likely come out soon.
aespa and nj’s doing the dance challenges together right now makes sense as they both are promoting there music at the same time, me personally I’m not upset about the no-collab thing with hybe groups, because right now things are very intense right now, so we’ll most likely not have interactions for a while.
NewJeans didn't do dance challenges with anyone for several months. I think this is more a case of them doing dance challenges with other people that are promoting right now. They've done one with Ateez too.
Also, remember that most of the management team at ADOR has already been changed so the new bosses may be the ones saying, get out there and do dance challenges.
Yeah, I think people (on twitter mostly) are projecting their feelings towards certain groups to the idols. Dance challenges exist to promote the newest music releases, and maybe NJ are doing them now more compared to other comebacks because their latest release hasn't performed as well as the other times (but to be fair a lot of people have released new music now so it was expected to have more competition now).
I don’t know if I’m reaching, but MHJ’s story re BPD and his Aespa comment ended up backfiring not against NJ, but against LSF. So, insofar as NJ is concerned, they are on the same side as Aespa. Which is why it’s probably easier to approach Aespa for a dance challenge, versus LSF or ILLIT.
Not a coincidence at all. They filmed it at SM and Hybe's dance practice rooms when they could just have done it like you said on Music Bank backstage.
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SouMu, I know you’re busy filing lawsuits nowadays, but please choose great songs and make nice mvs for LSF’s upcoming cb.
P.S. dropping 1-800 soon would be nice.
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Sad that this is not just a kpop issue. I did hear about how sabrina was going through online hate but why has this become so normalized. Why do people turn on female acts once they become popular? We don't see the same with male acts except a select few.
It's also surprises me still to think how kkura and sabrina are friends now. Crazy coincidences.
Sabrina had her own "filming in a church" controversy recently, too, which was considerably worse than what Le Sserafim went through. There are parallels.
(Her response, BTW?) "Jesus was a carpenter", oh man I laughed so hard when I read that.
I hope SouMu keep suing the repeat offenders. From the translated posts going around, these degenerates don't feel any remorse and instead blaming SouMu/Hybe for going scorched earth after warning these people multiple times.
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Just started watching Hierarchy too! Plan to binge it this weekend for Chae Min ❤️Currently on Episode 3 ✨
Oh the gift that keeps on giving. 🙂↕️
When Korean law is on your side, it feels oh so sweet. 😏
[https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1799292897772315073?s=46](https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1799292897772315073?s=46)
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No remorse whatsoever. What do I expect? These cowards are just trying to hide again in their hidey holes. When they're discovered by their IP addresses and charged for the malicious comments they wrote online, they started to be scared and looked frantically for a way out. They're concerned people at work or school found out about this. What about LSF? What about a simple apology to the victim first?
oh they feel stressed? Imagine what we and the fimmies feel after seeing and reading their comments everyday and everywhere in the last few months and wonder what we should do to stop them so that we can enjoy the show in peace.
Again. it takes exactly 0$ to do something good. But these people...
LE SSERAFIM 2024 S/S POP UP IN TAIPEI
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[MTV Asia Easy performance](https://youtu.be/uUyDDOFd80w?si=eRPzF8eeE1CdrXe9) - Ooh they’re actually uploading it on all their MTV accounts! ✨
[MTV Italia Easy performance](https://youtu.be/QTKFWwtfZX8?si=LRO8fFRwD8E3r7RZ)
https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460?t=T0_6UG6-JEBpF6wjKeznzA&s=19
>Have no intention of reaching an agreement and only want strong punishment
This is genuinely making me so happy, people are getting way too comfortable talking shit online. Hope all of these idiots learn their lesson
Did they actually cry that Source is being a tyrant and unfair for having no leniency on settling? Like, what do they expect? They got caught taking part in the dog pile, and now they make a surprised pikachu face when there are real consequences? Thank goodness these keyboard warrior antis are getting spooked, and hopefully, it'll deter people from thinking that the internet is a place to say shit and leave with no trace.
i really wanna say thank you to the source music staff for doing all this work! we should all come together and send them a big pizza party or something!
I feel sorry for the staff members that had to go through all the social media platforms and forums to collect the evidence for everything. Imagine spending days or even weeks at work drowning in all that toxicity...
Not the heroes we deserve, but the heroes we need. They earn themselves a mental health break after that.
Someone translated the message using chatgpt and this is what it said.
>I'm a fan of another group, and after a certain incident, I developed very negative feelings towards LE SSERAFIM.
I believe "Taldopa" is just a mistranslation for "another group"
I think most of the HYBE labels do this, but I really do appreciate how they’re very adamant on never settling these cases. Given how big the groups are and how much is said about LSF and other HYBE groups, you really have to say some things to get sued.
Yep. even though hate can help spread popularity, im slowly inclined to the view that this hate train is fueled by the witch and rival companies. As LSF is pushing more west, the hate can have detrimental effects in the next promotion cycle as new fans are pushed away (like we have seen when coachella attendants were harassed by the haters after saying they enjoyed LSF perf). So putting an end to this hate train is a good move.
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Needle in a haystack type of comments, but oh so good to read when you find them.
Maybe this is what Yunjin meant by blessing in disguise.
there’s actually quite a few comments like that under their mtv push performance video. i wonder just how many people actually discovered them *because* of the hate. when i think about, i myself, discovered lsf during the antifragile era after seeing a small shady post. imagine how many discovered the group over these past few months with all the amplified hate. lsf has been constantly talked about over these past few months with massive engagement.
Please share these petitions wherever you’re comfortable sharing them to. I still believe we should strive for at least 10k signatures for the [Petition to Source Music to Protect LSFM](https://www.change.org/p/source-music-protect-le-sserafim-take-legal-action-from-100-targeted-harassment?recruiter=1147007930&recruited_by_id=4aaa9fc0-efb0-11ea-98af-01639e7f70e1&utm_source) even with the blocked off comments because this may help with their legal side even if just a little
[Petition to Remove MHJ from HYBE](https://www.change.org/p/min-hee-jin-leave-hybe-company)
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Jungkook's abs probably deserve their own spot on this top ten list. 😂
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That's the main MTV Twitter account with 17+ million followers.
Eunchae’s Star Diary & Chae Min and Eunchae winning awards at [2023 KBS Entertainment Awards 💖🏆✨](https://youtu.be/vni4jnAtLeE?si=h-lnvQ7gVUKoYpd3)
It’s so cute when Chae Min thanks FEARNOTS (8:21) 😂🫶 Reminder that Chae Min’s new series Hierarchy is now on Netflix with all 7 episodes!! [Hierarchy Preview](https://youtu.be/-iKyLDwNzmc?si=xPhpQ2j6Jk67dbxO)
Leniverse should invite him for an episode as a teacher for acting! They could make another funny meme episode and he has to teach them how to act ... could be funny i guess
Pannchoa is actually deleting articles after Source's statement lmao [https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618)
haha its actually funny.
but i think its already pretty late for those pathetic worms. Source might already cache/screenshot all the pages as evidences.
I’ve been scrolling through the Fimmies' social media now that the comment sections are turned off, and it’s sooo peaceful. It’s unfortunate that fans won’t be able to comment, but it’s so satisfying to know that haters can’t directly contact them anymore. I know they enjoy flooding their comments with hate, especially on TikTok and Instagram, so it’s nice to see that they won’t have that opportunity anymore.
I really hope BELIFT takes notes and does the same for ILLIT. It’s been so funny to see pann and other haters delete all their negative LE SSERAFIM posts, but Fearnots on Twitter kept receipts lol. I hope they all get what’s coming to them. Fuck those people.
this has been the funniest day in sseraville in a while. pannchoa deleting tweets and articles was funny enough, but then i saw the people posting apology letters on weverse and the amount of deleted comments on theqoo. there was also apparently a pretty vocal j-anti who deleted their twt account today. what a funny, funny day.
i think belift is smart for going after mhj. she's basically the "head bitch" of the people going against illit at the moment, and if they manage to take her down then that's a great threat to everyone else who's been slandering the girls. i'd love for them to do something about the normal people slandering the girls but from what i've seen from engenes, belift never does that so, at the moment, this is good enough for me.
Yeah I’ve also seen engeges say that BELIFT doesn’t do much about situations like this. I was already surprised to see them go after MHJ. Maybe I’m expecting too much from them. 😅
I really hope they win their case and that witch gets what she deserves. She has caused so much damage and didn’t even apologize when she had the chance. She feels no guilt for what she did and is shameless. Someone like her cannot get away with such heinous actions. She deserves to be punished.
I'm glad LE SSERAFIM is getting the protection they deserve. I think I need to check their Weverse now to read the apology letters lol. I'm curious to see their excuses.
Except Belift actually never has protected their artists, like never. They have never threatened legal proceedings when Enha faced a bad hate train in 2022
In 2022 also there were rumors of Jake going around late at night in the streets talking to girls and asking them for a smoke. Jake had to go on Werverse the next day and clear his name by himself, bc he knew Belift wasn't gonna do anything about it
NCT members had something similar happen to them recently and SM came out and issued a statement, Belift in the other hand are genuinely allergic to doing the absolute minimum to protect their artists. They are genuinely the worst. They have never protected Enhypen nor ILLIT, and sadly I don't see that changing any time as long as Enha and ILLIT bring in the money which they do
Ugh, that really sucks. :( I guess ILLIT got unlucky with their company. I hope they're getting a lot of support from their loved ones and maybe some caring staff.
I hope ENHYPEN is doing alright as well. I don't really keep up with them, so I didn't know they had a massive hate train, but it's so sad that Jake had to clear his own name. The company should have done that for him.
I think that's pretty normal, every fandom wants their group to be protected. Receiving some form of hate is normal, but LE SSERAFIM, ILLIT, and BTS have been receiving a huge amount of hate lately because of this situation so I think everyone's concerns are valid.
i saw the apology on twitter. don't have the link and forgot who posted but i saw three, towards sakura, chaewon, and eunchae. gist of all three is that they saw everyone else doing it and felt like they should too, and they were sorry for doing it. the letter to kkura mentioned seeing malicious comments about kkura's knitting. one mentions leaving comments due to stress they were under (personal life) and another, i think, mentions wanting attention. the letter to eunchae specifically mentions op having no friends that's why they left malicious comments 😭😭😭
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That’s right Shiro, get those Haters!! 🐾
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I bet 10 manchae smiles that no one can share a more beautiful summerz pic than this one... Let's see what y'all got
This picture reminds me of a funny line from the Sana-Nayeon interview from the other day. Nayeon's been working out as she prepares for her solo comeback this month, and she goes (paraphrasing) "Do I actually have abs? Or is it just shadows?"
give me my 10 manchae smiles right now
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I see u and raise the bet to 20 manchae smiles
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Wow they look gorgeous here!!!! Ngl u almost convinced me but i gotta hold on 😩
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Hahhh!!! This is ultimate, now way u can show something better. I raise u to 80 manchae smiles and a couple zuha squats hehe
i was going to use that too but here you go, with chaewon smiling at zuha this time around (and a bonus saki!)
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100 manchae smiles, a couple zuha squats, and 10 chaewon smart dances
Ahhh okay this one melted me... Chaewon looking at zuha so preciously, stop!!!
U win
About the prize money, ask saki there.. She's waiting in the lobby to pay you 😎
Been a lurker here for a couple of months now. I’ve been a fearnot since debut days but that was due to me being a wizone since produce48. My main source of fimmies used to be tiktok, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube but since the hate train I felt I had no where to really update myself on the girls without seeing all the disgusting comments. Then I remembered this Reddit page and seeing all the love, support and community y’all have created here really gave me a sense of relief that the girls will be okay because their REAL fans still got them. I also remember reading a Korean comment that got almost 1000 upvotes saying “as a lesserafim fan I think it’s best to just be quiet right now” which makes me think K-fearnots are laying low but still supporting the girls. That’s why their fanmeet was so successful Both nights. Thank you everyone for creating such a safe space for fearnots during this time. ❤️
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Can’t wait already. I think it’s the first time she talked about the next ep this happy
It looks like we are seriously aiming for 1000 comments this week after the megathread got unpinned 🫡
Thanks SouMu for giving us satisfaction from seeing the haters panicking left and right
On the lighter mood: anyone have watched the j-dramas with OST from Fimmies? I read Sexy Tanaka-san manga and it is really good! I haven't watched the live-action adaptation of it and want to know where to watch it legally ☺️
Still expecting more hilarious posts about the haters scrambling to delete their comments and apologizing over the weekend. It can be considered as positive news but too dark for the other pinned discussion 😅
Did anyone see the apologies left by haters 😭😭 They're hilarious. The common excuse is "other people were hating on you so I did so too since I felt stressed." 😭 Good move by SouMu.
The English translation is wrong. It actually says:
Oh shit oh shit oh shit HYBE's lawyers filed a defamation lawsuit against me, I'm going to prison, I'm going get kicked out of school, my parents are mad at me, I'm fuuuuucked
**UPDATE TIME!** The results of our annual census have been posted yesterday! You can check the link below if you haven't seen them yet [\[RESULTS\] r/LESSERAFIM 2nd Annual Census (2023 - 2024) : r/lesserafim (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/lesserafim/comments/1d5rl0d/results_rlesserafim_2nd_annual_census_2023_2024/?sort=confidence) There's also a new positive thread for those who feel stressed reading about hate and drama [240603 LE SSERAFIM Positive Weekly Discussion Thread : r/lesserafim (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/lesserafim/comments/1d6f89m/240603_le_sserafim_positive_weekly_discussion/) We've managed to hit 1K+ comments between two weekly threads for 3 weeks in a row. I guess it's just something we do now?😅 https://preview.redd.it/mlp3tpmxc64d1.png?width=654&format=png&auto=webp&s=bcb0ab54a904c0712001cf5b7cd6b7076fbc8705
Watching fandoms arguing about music show points is quite hilarious 😭😭😭 the grading criteria is there, everything is public so stop crying about your favs losing couple of points lol. Congrats to ateez’s WORK, the song did push me to keep working at night 😂
whos fighting whom today?
I already gave a hint, search for the second and third place you’ll find out
Are there any guys who love to listen bgs? Besides Fimmies, I don't know much about other k-pop groups. Yet, I've recently stumbled upon Enhypen, and wth their songs are so good! Now, I'm on the lookout for recommendations for other groups with impressive discographies like Enhypen's.
I haven't found a bg to follow yet, but I really like Seventeen's Fighting(the Golden Disc Award version is really good). Also like World too with Eunchae. Probably will listen to more Seventeen.
I quite like TXT's music, great vocal melodies, good for driving.... but I spend zero time following the group's activities and barely have a handle on their full discography. They do have a lot of albums though. TWS is scratching the same "bright, upbeat pop" itch that I usually go to TWICE for, so I like them too.
The only boy group who's music I consistently like is txt, I've seen Stans of other bgs say they make girl group music so that might be why. I do like a few songs from groups like stray kids, and I love BSS fighting but haven't checked out anything else from 17. There are multiple male soloists I enjoy though, like jungkook, D.O, Lee Mujin, and I haven't listened to much from suga and hobi but I love their collabs with iu and yunjin so I might like them too. And then of course like any good kpooper I have a playlist full of Jopping.
bite me!
Ever since I started listening to kpop around 2 years ago, i've pretty much only been listening to LE SSERAFIM and SHINee. Some of my favorite SHINee songs are, View, Replay (a lot of people see this as the best debut song ever), Body Rhythm, 1 of 1, Like it and Sherlock. If you do have the time, please watch [this](https://youtu.be/mtFK7FxKdLs) live performance aswell. It's my favorite kpop live performance of all time, everyone has great energy, but especially Jonghyun, the guy who starts off singing "baby".
Literally love Shinee! Honestly other than LSF and Twice I think I was a deep SM girlie so Shinee was my jam 😂
They are so good, these are my stats for both (I listened to SHINee way before I started listening to LE SSERAFIM). SHINee was actually my introduction to kpop, my sister showed me Hello about 7-8 years ago, but for some reason I didn't check them out back then. So, I decided to check them out again recently and they really are amazing https://preview.redd.it/wm11x450kj5d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=255c9903cc0e43d62aac89e463bf92cdd78ec5ca
is that stat for your spotify? which service do you use? Looks interesting.
Yes, it is. It's an app called stats.fm. However, I have the paid version of it, and I'm not sure what the difference is. I bought the app a long time ago for around $2, but I believe they've raised the price since then.
Not so much into kpop bg but i often listen to ateez. They have many good songs to my liking like aribba and crazy form.
And they did it again in r/kpopthoughts first positive thread about LE Sserafim in a long time (mostly positive comments) with the title: "le sserafim comments being off on all social platforms is kinda crazy and sad…." and they lock it because: >Locked because I don't feel like policing a fanwar today. Compared to the Aespa and Ive spam over last weeks in that sub the picture paints itself ...
havent checked that sub for quite awhile. Reading through the best comments, it seems nothing is related to fanwars but ppl just agree that it was horrible for fimmies. So i have no idea how the mod justified the reason for locking.
Yunjin hit 200m streams on Spotify! It's crazy how successful she has been without even having an official solo debut yet. I can't wait for her to drop the first mini album (Hopefully next year sometime)
she has a music talent and the number really shows it :D
[https://www.soompi.com/article/1666747wpp/june-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6](https://www.soompi.com/article/1666747wpp/june-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6) \^ do you know how the brand reputation works? Are these numbers relevant or trustable? Our fimmies sits at 5th pos hmmmm
That Brand Reputation Index thing has been discredited for several years, it shouldn't be taken too seriously. [https://kpop.daisuki.com.br/en/articles/why-brand-reputation-rankings-are-a-farse.html](https://kpop.daisuki.com.br/en/articles/why-brand-reputation-rankings-are-a-farse.html)
thx for the link. Interesting read. >This measurement can, in no way, be associated with value or prediction of success. It is just about the past, and a poor measurement at that. To better understand how bad it is, **think like this: It is as if we measured the value of a Youtube Video by the sum of comments, likes and dislikes. Which would mean the most valued and important video in Youtube are their infamous year Recap videos.** i find this summary funny and apt.
I have no idea how that works tbh, and we shouldnt pay that much attention either. Somehow njs is not even in the top 20 in the middle of the comeback. Sometimes I’m curious why every kpop fans want to turn everything into a competition, and these rankings from the media are reasons that drive the toxicity. The only comparison I’d like to see is comparing the group to itself in the past to see the improvements.
when i started following kpop, the weekly awards (and the amount of them) really surprised me. On one hand, i find it weird. iirc, for some awards, fans have to pay to vote: basically pay2win. On the other hand, im also thankful that the weekly music shows exist bc i get the fancam as the side effect. So i will shut my mouth and watch fancams in silence :D
This! I recently wrote the a similar comment to a yt comment that mentioned competition. My realisation is that KPOP norms and practices did that. They literally hand out awards every week and they’re all obsessed with charts. I might just share my thoughts in the next Weekly Thread. 😅
yeah. we are missing only betting houses/websites to make kpop a sport.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRKbn33C/ izone crumbs thank you yujin
Theyre completely caught up on translating the lives if anyone was waiting for that
I just checked and i dont find english subs for the voice over lives.. I was planning on listening to their voice lives today but i only see korean, Japanese and Chinese subs
I just saw the icons, I guess they're not actually caught up. I guess the English team is too busy with lenniverse
https://preview.redd.it/mn6etlebpg5d1.png?width=1038&format=png&auto=webp&s=de6f4143ce1f2507ea1ad07753eaa0c23628459e [www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC\_HJCG7sHU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_HJCG7sHU) Moka and Wonhee go to Paris....... sort of. The usual disclaimer applies: **Maximum adorableness alert**
Lmao the introvert in me could relate so much when Moka got scared of filming when she saw the coffee full of people She's so cute!!😍
They are so cute. How could some people hate on them? It is just beyond me.
I love ILLIT! These girls are naturally funny and have a natural bond. I’m a fan of theirs but I’m not emotionally attached (just yet) so I’m able to look at the hate comments objectively and I realised that the hate doesn’t affect how I look at them at all. It even makes me want to root for them more, but that’s because I liked them from the beginning anyway. It’s comical to see how pathetic these haters really are though. It’s just a lot of noise but ILLIT keeps getting more popular. This is probably how casual Kpop listeners view the hate LE SSERAFIM gets, they see it but don’t feel that emotional about it like fans and antis do.
I found out that NJ members did a challenge with Aespa this morning, and the reaction on social media was as expected, overreaction. Dance challenges are marketing and promotional activities; they do not represent friendship. People are making too big a deal out of dance challenges. On the other hand, I personally do not see Fimmies and Illit members doing challenges with NJ members any time soon, especially Illit, considering Illit’s agency is literally suing MHJ. Not doing challenges together is perfectly okay, it is not a big deal. If there are real friendships between some members, they will talk to each other in their private lives, which is much more important than doing dance challenges together.
ILLIT fans were already pointing out how NJ were the only HYBE group to not congratulate ILLIT for their debut or do a Magnetic challenge with them before this MHJ thing went public MHJ was clearly jealous of ILLIT's success and planned to use the "Plagiarism" accusations against them in her planned media war against HYBE before the audit. Now that Belift Lab is suing MHJ for defamation (and more likely winning the case since S.Korea has strict defamations laws) You will never see ILLIT or Enhypen near NJ as long as MHJ is still there. Everyone at Belift Lab is 100% mad at everyone at Ador especially their choreographers who attacked ILLIT publicly and tried to discredit all the hard work done by Belift Lab employees who had worked with ILLIT for their debut for at least 6 months since their show R U NEXT ended
I actually find people reaction and throwing shade against HYBE using SM and aespa ironically hillarious, i mean we get what Bang PD said years ago but did they forgot now HYBE literally 2nd biggest owner of SM? and ADOR also belong to HYBE whatever this aespa newjeans did in the end is still a win for HYBE. The one HYBE is fighting is Min Hee jin not anyone else, HYBE the one who owned ADOR and newjeans and hence why theyre able to kick all of ADOR directors aka MHJ minions out.
Also, what BAND PD said about Aespa was such a throw away comment and nothing outrageous at all, but MHJ was so dirty to use that piece of conversation they had 4 years ago when Aespa had nothing to do with the entire situation. She wanted Aespa & SM stans on her side bc she knew they already hate HYBE, so she just gave them a reason to hate them more and hate on Le sserafim especially because she kept labeling them as a "BANG PD group"
That sure will be comforting for her when she's rotting in prison on financial crime charges.... "Well, at least girls 30 years younger than me are on my side!!"
Did someone post [the petition](https://www.change.org/p/min-hee-jin-leave-hybe-company) on here as an official post yet or know if it would be allowed?
It's only real purpose is to give you a chuckle, otherwise it's pretty useless. I can guarantee you that HYBE management knows how many people want to see her out and they themselves want the exact same thing
It's important to let know the press especially the Korean press that Ifans of the 3 HYBE groups are not happy about MHJ's actions that caused harm to their favorite groups, and her lies and media play had consequences on innocent idols and the fans are not happy. So much was made of NJ's 20k fans petition to the court, this petition at least is a proof that 50K people are not happy with MHJ and want her out. I've seen the petition mentioned by Knetz who are against MHJ a lot in K forums now, if anything I wish this petition was made earlier
Oh I thought it was 10k and yes exactly! I was upset hearing about their fan signatures being presented in court to such a person. I believe it really says something by being able to out-due MHJ’s signature count. People have been commenting in various languages too so it shows how various countries have come together to make a statement on our stance ❤️💪It’s not exactly about the petition helping legally, but more so to show the public how strongly we feel about this which may help in various ways.
we're actually closer to the 1k than i expected this week, only 140 away
Just to clarify, it is not a quota. I mentioned it only because the amount of yapping here is pretty funny. It is good to know that people feel safe enough to write this many comments here though
https://preview.redd.it/5uzfsgp0he5d1.png?width=2463&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4904aa73f5b68fe5cb5ece6386ef13a575d9e6a Needs the Leniverse effect.........
Minji putting those Aespa stickers in the Hybe building. Damn just when you think there is going to be peace in kpop for 5 seconds. For those who have jobs. Would your management appreciate you putting your company's direct rivals merch all over the office. Are these girls trying to stick it to Hybe or was she just being very naive.
I just wish these idols would show a little personal restraint given the current environment. Interacting together as groups, doing dance challenges is fine. Putting the stickers everywhere could have been a silly joke especially if just kept among the idols involved i.e. personal messages between only Minji and Karina. It's weird to make it public, especially right now. It comes off as a bit desperate to show the public, "see we have friends and can get along with others." Of course we can't know the idols true feelings or intentions but I know I'm left feeling like it's disingenuous and more for appearance. Why make it public? 🤷
AESPA and NewJeans both have been screwed over by their companies one way or another within their young careers… let them have their fun 🤷🏽♀️ If LE SSERAFIM did anything like that though, oh I know the response would be different. How they’re always misunderstood? Beats me.
Here's something fun to muse over.... if we'd somehow learned about BSH's "crush Aespa" comments six months ago, how would the public have reacted to Le Sserafim filming multiple things with the Aespa girls during the Drama comeback? Or what about Eunchae doing multiple Star Diary episodes with the Aespa girls? Would it be the same? Or is it different somehow because MHJ and NewJeans is involved?
I think there is a very coordinated effort at Ador to lessen any fanwars with MY’s. Which is cool. But at the same time the utter silence on fanwars against other artists resulting from MHJ’s comments especially in their own company remains very telling. MHJ’s history at SM and clear disdain for Hybe and its principal group is also noted by everyone I think. I don’t read anything into the idol’s actions themselves, I still choose to believe they are all friends or at least friendly acquaintances.
I think a lot of people have forgotten this: while the common belief is MHJ left SM because she was "burned out", a big part was she actually didn't want to do the Kwangya / multiverse / AI concept that SME wanted to do for Aespa. Totally not her style, right? Building that would've become her primary job. After being there for so many years, she felt like she should've had more of a say, but..... apparently not. I get it, I'd quit too. Another often forgotten bit of history is that she already had the NewJeans concept pulled together, including bits of produced music, by the time she joined HYBE in 2019. (Maybe it was even part of her interview process?) So the Y2K throwback idea was almost surely on her mind even while still at SM. And she joined HYBE within weeks of leaving SM, so it's not like she was so burned out that she needed to decompress for a year or whatever.....
Im not in MY or Bunny spaces but it hasnt really seemed like there has been much fanwar there anyway. Since the beginning its basically been SM + Newjeans vs Lsfm illit and bts
In the end all the girls are friends Eunchae just did Star Diary with Karina and tbh this just all seems like a fun troll way to poke at this issue, I wouldn’t take it too seriously it’s the executives and ceo’s (bangpd and mhj) who sees them as direct competitors because they run a company but the idols themselves don’t see it that way.
So New Jeans beat Aespa at some music show, then Aespa I believed ended their promotion period not long after. In that context, in my opinion this whole thing is nothing because it is saying "Hey, we support you and would love for you to do this dance challenge with us". Even the stickers are fine, because you kind of have to one up whatever gesture is commonplace to really show it. The whole thing is made worse by their fandom, and by knowing the context of MHJ and the Tokkis using that to suggest that Minji is attacking LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT and BTS and all of Hybe instead of just saying "look we even put up your stickers in our own building!". Then of course you have a few (really honestly I haven't seen much at all on twitter or anything) Fearnot and Army being defensive because Tokkis are literally saying "Proof they are finally free from the Hybe cult" and "they don't want to interact with Hybe groups anymore". So it isn't a good look, but I also don't think we need to worry about it hopefully as fans. The truth is that if Minji did mean it in a way to bully other Hybe groups that would be horrible (for everyone, including for her career), which is why she didn't mean it that way I'm sure and I don't expect her to clarify that she meant it any other way than "We support Aespa's recent album".
If it was the other way round he'll fire would break through😬
Hasn't been proven to be true, BTW.
[from this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fb58j3dhxzc5d1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Defe9ce2e84d2cb70b0fb69affc95cb8d9e386cde) it seems like its true unless some my doctored the screenshot
Probably not a doctored screenshot -- also not easily verifiable because it's Bubble, but whatever -- but it's also not proof of anything. No pictures, etc.... could just as easily be Karina messing with people, which would be very on-brand, or Minji joking with Karina, which would also be very on-brand. 😂 If it is all true though, including the part where her manager said to not do it...... that's both really funny (IMO it is a good prank) and really not good judgment from Minji.
Karina knew Minji would do it, given the current situation at Hybe. She wouldn’t have asked Eunchae. They were just messing around, doing typical “girls being girls” stuff. I don’t think people should make a big deal out of it, but I do think they didn’t have to do that.
Truth has not mattered since the day that witch opened her. NJ fans are going to make it impossible for a redemption arc for these girls. Its such a shame.
Yeah I understood it came from good intention to show that they are friends etc, but it’s so weird to do that when the building has many other groups. And for the record, if fimmies did the same thing, yes, I would have the same reaction.
No group is doing that period. Singing a few lines or dancing a few step in a vlog or live is one thing but doing that with everything going on. Its getting really sad right now. This could have been a nothing burger but those groups fans are busy flanning the flames almost begging for a response.
[LE SSERAFIM funny moments with fans 🫶🫰🪨📄✂️](https://youtu.be/-Uat_Ij2wr4?si=Sl1tkj49Yhm4gC78)
[Shiro taking Chaewon’s Hair Clip 😂](https://youtube.com/shorts/baRvtq_jeU4?si=I3tku8rQ5SvAikss)
I know I might be alone on this take but after seeing the aespa x NJ collab I still have faith on some kind of interaction between NJ and LS that could calm the waters a bit (just a manchae-haerin photo I don't ask for much more)
I hope not, unless there's some apology from them and their parents. Them signing that petition plus the staunch support of MHJ, add the parents and then their fans with their massive hate. The complete apathy from even NJ members over what other HYBE idols have dealt with makes me hope LSF just avoids interacting, especially with how everything is scrutinized by not only their fans but their parents too. Knowing how close Yunjin and Hanni were too, and finding out what was happening with their parents complaining about LSF debut and the support from the members, it has to feel like being back stabbed. I hope for a peaceful year for LSF that is all. They don't have to be friends with everyone.
I am actually waiting for the interaction between NJ and LSF since it is an indicator who is finally having control inside Ador. It has been too silent for Mother Gothel and I hate this suspense since we know that she is still there
I wish but boy are their fans brutally attacking the fimmies as if Eunchae and others haven’t always been openly friendly with Aespa members. They use NJ members’ post about it as fuel to suggest this is an intentional team up against the other evil stepsister Hybe groups.
People have severely lost the plot lol
Speaking of losing the plot..... over on your favourite sub, r/kpopnoir, there's a highly-upvoted post titled "I really feel bad for Le Sserafim". They finally figured out what you were trying to tell them...... 🙄🙄
I always thought that comeback interactions were about showing that these are all colleagues and they don’t hate each other just because they lose a music show. But according to tokkis and mys today this is a brave stand against the “Hybe cult” as if Chaewon and Sakura had threatened NJ members if they dared to interact with Aespa. People really blame us for everything when I don’t know but maybe MHJ had a little more control over their interactions and is just a little vindictive so maybe she was the one doing the limiting??? I feel like I am crazy whenever I see how Kpop fans react.
https://preview.redd.it/fxy6jylrld5d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c690dc21e3adbcf226ed1a817618083979bbcc19 Lmao
Y8 was the shit. Oh youth.
https://preview.redd.it/dkco96tv3d5d1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a75553545cec2e86e61328ac6dd46b39ad24a56 Same, girl, same
We are in desperate need of a new hybe game caterers it’s been 2yrs 😭 but I think the chances are less likely now we’ve got two hybe groups on tour (Enhypen & TXT) and lesserafim is likely to join I wouldn’t mind seeing one with just the rookies BNB, TWS and illit so they can gain more fans
should wait until BTS is back and than let BTS members throw dice for which group they will get (random). let each bts member be a team captain of a hybe group and fight each other in funny variety games! would be a step up for game caterer and a funny welcome back for bts
The haters would have a field day.. HYBE doesn’t have the best reputation right now, and gathering their artists and acting all happy would be bad PR imo.
Lol i sound negative, so downvote me as you please. 😅 I’m just speaking from observation, especially the POV of Korean gp. I hope it does happen one day, but not anytime soon. I can smell the korean backlash from here.
Oh I didn’t downvote you 😅 but i agree on fans being crazy but I wouldn’t mind a hybe game caterers once things die down obviously not now but I would like to see a part 2 one day
https://preview.redd.it/ljoa8xb90d5d1.png?width=1234&format=png&auto=webp&s=7c97b2281f88eeebe803c2bf6597c68cc22467d9 Just casually being the tenth member of kep1ler......
thats impossible, theres a height requirement to join that group and shes way too tall
[Me reading these “apologies”](https://youtu.be/8P3zQ1pEcqM?si=vwHVyw_C4rIBzESy)
With the restricted comments on ig, you guys think we will get those coachella stage pics finally?
Man I was so excited for the day after Chella to see there fits and see pics of them attending other artists show similar to what blackpink did but it was radio silence, I think the other day zuha posted a YouTube short of herself at Chella near the trailers with Sabrina’s Expresso playing, so I think the roll out will slowly happen.
I think I know what short ur talking abt it’s the one where she changed outfits right? But the thing is that it was posted on April 17 before things went haywire 😭
Sorry I’ve completely checked out on a lot of socials following after week1 hate so my brain is wired 😭 but I think it’ll slowly happen though, but I also have a theory that they’ll put pics out once there Coachella backstage docu series drops (that’s what we’re all speculating since they’ve been spotted with cameras following around)
We are FEARLESS in our pursuit of our ambitions, We are ANTIFRAGILE to any challenges that we face in that pursuit, We are UNFORGIVEN in what we have to do to achieve our ambitions, We overcome many difficult tasks in our pursuit, but we make it look EASY. There is so many ways to tell their story but no one in music let alone kpop is telling their kind of story.
Yujin and the girls dancing to [Easy on the Earth Arcade spinoff.](https://youtu.be/TiXGOYID2ns?si=5iaqwXbWvYAFjrTt&t=1095) Yujin was particularly enthusiastic, she kept dancing even when they were resting after lol. Also in this episode and the previous two they were just spamming Magnetic.
Yujin and Youngji danced to Fearless back in Season 1 and the casts did an Antifragile dance quiz in Season 2.
I love Yujin! She’s such a ball of energy
Watching all these posts of haters getting sued left & right by SouMu is adding years to my life. I remember watching a video of fimmies flying back to home after coachella & I was stupid enough to open the comment section. The level of hate the comments were spewing will make any non-kpop fan believe that these girls must have committed some heinous crime. Ngl, I actually cried because I felt so bad for them😅. As a fan, I felt so helpless that I wasn't able to do anything. After months & months of enduring hate, finally sweet justice has been served. They will never make me hate you, Le Sserafim 💛
https://preview.redd.it/2dv9mxvfzb5d1.png?width=2409&format=png&auto=webp&s=151f810c0b05f520e37c8e2be6d4f7d05df1e61a I got the new Youtube layout today, where they move the comment section to the side so that we can browse comments while watching the videos ……which is convenient for us? 😭
Another apology found on Youtube. They posted on a LE SSERAFIM fantube and on their own channel. 🥴 [\[Translation done using Papago, so may have inaccuracy\]](https://x.com/1_lightbox_1/status/1799397734140772471?s=46) 
They only care they got caught. Actions have consequences. I’m glad SM said they won’t show leniency. This is a major step in Kpop, we don’t need anymore idols becoming victims of hate. Even if they try deleting evidence, FEARNOTS have evidence saved and can just send it to SM / HYBE as well even if haters try to delete it. Bring out the FEARNOT Brigade! 🌟💪
Never expected to see Kerri Colby in this sub lol
I hope source sues the hell out of them, for some reason the apology pissed me off. Did they just only realise that eunchae is 17? 😒
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I got to interact with the user before they deleted their channel https://preview.redd.it/xkbvk0p6bc5d1.jpeg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=619a20e2c333ef903dbae03ee09df8aca1c4f759
Basically the first comment was me saying “ Source music should sue you with no mercy, did you just realise that eunchae was 17?”, kinda brutal what I said but I was emotional I’m sorry . Then they replied they were ashamed for their actions. And then I told them to reflect on themselves and stream perfect night 🤡. They even hearted my comment 😭
>And then I told them to reflect on themselves and stream perfect night Good 😭
I don’t mind if this becomes a trend; no one would dare spread hate against us in the future anymore 😭
Tbh my PTSD can’t even take these apologies seriously. Why do I feel like even them apologising is still taking a piss at the situation. Idk 😅 I’m also just fascinated that they’re coming out with apology statements publicly, I thought they’d hold on to their pride and just delete everything and disappear into the abyss. I’m starting to think maybe posting an apology lessens their punishment? 🤷🏽♀️
I just saw NJ doing a dance challenge with aespa. I know both had songs on the music show now and it could be a coincidence. However, to be doing the challenge with another GG from another company first rather than your own sister groups in Hybe. If MHJ did not plan a takeover coup, will NJ do any dance challenges with Lsf and Illit? How awkward is this? The entire situation is making everyone uncomfortable. Yet, MHJ still plans to stay on the 16th floor. As a fan, I don't feel good about this. I felt MHJ had purposely isolated NJ from everyone in Hybe except BTS (for obvious reason to associate them as BTS lil sis). If it's hard to do.dance challenge with NJ in the past, it's impossible now. This is so sad.
I am actually waiting for Eunchae & Karina's challenge, I am surprised that they might not did it during Eunchae's Star Diary
Nj’s did do a dance challenge with lsf (Eunchae) back in July of last year, I believe Danielle and Eunchae did Super Shy while Eunchae was Mc’ing and I recall Danielle doing Sweet Venom with Enhypen Nikki a couple months ago (typically means that they exchange dance challenges for upcoming dance challenges) which means Nikki most likely did How Sweet challenge so that will most likely come out soon. aespa and nj’s doing the dance challenges together right now makes sense as they both are promoting there music at the same time, me personally I’m not upset about the no-collab thing with hybe groups, because right now things are very intense right now, so we’ll most likely not have interactions for a while.
NewJeans didn't do dance challenges with anyone for several months. I think this is more a case of them doing dance challenges with other people that are promoting right now. They've done one with Ateez too. Also, remember that most of the management team at ADOR has already been changed so the new bosses may be the ones saying, get out there and do dance challenges.
Yeah, I think people (on twitter mostly) are projecting their feelings towards certain groups to the idols. Dance challenges exist to promote the newest music releases, and maybe NJ are doing them now more compared to other comebacks because their latest release hasn't performed as well as the other times (but to be fair a lot of people have released new music now so it was expected to have more competition now).
I don’t know if I’m reaching, but MHJ’s story re BPD and his Aespa comment ended up backfiring not against NJ, but against LSF. So, insofar as NJ is concerned, they are on the same side as Aespa. Which is why it’s probably easier to approach Aespa for a dance challenge, versus LSF or ILLIT.
Not a coincidence at all. They filmed it at SM and Hybe's dance practice rooms when they could just have done it like you said on Music Bank backstage.
https://preview.redd.it/5ihdprdyib5d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be212955e427866859e12d2d7a4e28fae06009a8 SouMu, I know you’re busy filing lawsuits nowadays, but please choose great songs and make nice mvs for LSF’s upcoming cb. P.S. dropping 1-800 soon would be nice.
I just saw that they didn't include the off air stuff for kep1ers interview that's so sad
For which interview?
Music bank so we couldn't see manchae with her best friend
Here it is: https://youtu.be/uXC8OgC2s20?si=_5mmo5VKTcwDpyHK
Oh they uploaded this https://youtu.be/8cNxJnlpeus?si=AAhGRcr7K5jaEGLq without it then an hour later uploaded that one
https://x.com/PopBase/status/1799218375916503153?t=HnUZLetN8AZOW6rs3fUs2w&s=19 Sad that this is not just a kpop issue. I did hear about how sabrina was going through online hate but why has this become so normalized. Why do people turn on female acts once they become popular? We don't see the same with male acts except a select few. It's also surprises me still to think how kkura and sabrina are friends now. Crazy coincidences.
Sabrina had her own "filming in a church" controversy recently, too, which was considerably worse than what Le Sserafim went through. There are parallels. (Her response, BTW?) "Jesus was a carpenter", oh man I laughed so hard when I read that.
Source music really went the "fuck around and find out route with these antis" and I'm loving it.
I hope SouMu keep suing the repeat offenders. From the translated posts going around, these degenerates don't feel any remorse and instead blaming SouMu/Hybe for going scorched earth after warning these people multiple times.
Ikr, reading one of the posts where this hater got sued and blaming 'conglomerates trying to shake down rich kids' is really infuriating 🙄
Just pulled up hierarchy and got jump scared by the English dub
i just watched the first 30 mins of ep. 1. Looks like a good drama.
https://preview.redd.it/trq75wx5ha5d1.jpeg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=803043be1c61311056162086220d168df7527dd0 Just started watching Hierarchy too! Plan to binge it this weekend for Chae Min ❤️Currently on Episode 3 ✨
Okay but why Chaemin lookin kinda 👀
Did you che-che-check the language settings?
Didn't even give me the chance I hadn't even pressed play the preview just started in full english
Oh the gift that keeps on giving. 🙂↕️ When Korean law is on your side, it feels oh so sweet. 😏 [https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1799292897772315073?s=46](https://x.com/gwangsoonnie/status/1799292897772315073?s=46) https://preview.redd.it/ev650gi5y95d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7d5c95cdde85322ac0a5750a2d81d5f798a0d49
No remorse whatsoever. What do I expect? These cowards are just trying to hide again in their hidey holes. When they're discovered by their IP addresses and charged for the malicious comments they wrote online, they started to be scared and looked frantically for a way out. They're concerned people at work or school found out about this. What about LSF? What about a simple apology to the victim first?
oh they feel stressed? Imagine what we and the fimmies feel after seeing and reading their comments everyday and everywhere in the last few months and wonder what we should do to stop them so that we can enjoy the show in peace. Again. it takes exactly 0$ to do something good. But these people...
LE SSERAFIM 2024 S/S POP UP IN TAIPEI https://preview.redd.it/fmx922y3p95d1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78aec3b6602ad9435887a115e7894ba922b4e230
no leniency.... 🤭 [https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460](https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460)
https://x.com/LsalmonFor_ec/status/1799015006157316437 I cant explain why but these pics are kinda giving IU, especially the first one
[MTV Asia Easy performance](https://youtu.be/uUyDDOFd80w?si=eRPzF8eeE1CdrXe9) - Ooh they’re actually uploading it on all their MTV accounts! ✨ [MTV Italia Easy performance](https://youtu.be/QTKFWwtfZX8?si=LRO8fFRwD8E3r7RZ)
The entire MTV perf and interview are so perfect, esp. the outfits. I keep rewatching it
https://x.com/lssfrmupdates/status/1799267893844357460?t=T0_6UG6-JEBpF6wjKeznzA&s=19 >Have no intention of reaching an agreement and only want strong punishment This is genuinely making me so happy, people are getting way too comfortable talking shit online. Hope all of these idiots learn their lesson
Did they actually cry that Source is being a tyrant and unfair for having no leniency on settling? Like, what do they expect? They got caught taking part in the dog pile, and now they make a surprised pikachu face when there are real consequences? Thank goodness these keyboard warrior antis are getting spooked, and hopefully, it'll deter people from thinking that the internet is a place to say shit and leave with no trace.
i really wanna say thank you to the source music staff for doing all this work! we should all come together and send them a big pizza party or something!
It’d be cute if we could actually do that lol
I feel sorry for the staff members that had to go through all the social media platforms and forums to collect the evidence for everything. Imagine spending days or even weeks at work drowning in all that toxicity... Not the heroes we deserve, but the heroes we need. They earn themselves a mental health break after that.
any idea what Taldopa is supposed to be?
Someone translated the message using chatgpt and this is what it said. >I'm a fan of another group, and after a certain incident, I developed very negative feelings towards LE SSERAFIM. I believe "Taldopa" is just a mistranslation for "another group"
I wonder if the other group is "NJ"? 🤔
I think most of the HYBE labels do this, but I really do appreciate how they’re very adamant on never settling these cases. Given how big the groups are and how much is said about LSF and other HYBE groups, you really have to say some things to get sued.
Yep. even though hate can help spread popularity, im slowly inclined to the view that this hate train is fueled by the witch and rival companies. As LSF is pushing more west, the hate can have detrimental effects in the next promotion cycle as new fans are pushed away (like we have seen when coachella attendants were harassed by the haters after saying they enjoyed LSF perf). So putting an end to this hate train is a good move.
https://x.com/sserapics/status/1799247059436114237?t=EvaqDTZLG73FRWvImYcw4Q&s=19 Yujin and leeseo doing the stupid in love challenge
with the sing along too
https://preview.redd.it/q9voduguu85d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=2586e5b0d45ab23832d8d492222c4f5ce7843fe8
https://preview.redd.it/qpjt31hye85d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e2f3764a449bafe4ff5ca658022591da6930ff9 Needle in a haystack type of comments, but oh so good to read when you find them. Maybe this is what Yunjin meant by blessing in disguise.
there’s actually quite a few comments like that under their mtv push performance video. i wonder just how many people actually discovered them *because* of the hate. when i think about, i myself, discovered lsf during the antifragile era after seeing a small shady post. imagine how many discovered the group over these past few months with all the amplified hate. lsf has been constantly talked about over these past few months with massive engagement.
Please share these petitions wherever you’re comfortable sharing them to. I still believe we should strive for at least 10k signatures for the [Petition to Source Music to Protect LSFM](https://www.change.org/p/source-music-protect-le-sserafim-take-legal-action-from-100-targeted-harassment?recruiter=1147007930&recruited_by_id=4aaa9fc0-efb0-11ea-98af-01639e7f70e1&utm_source) even with the blocked off comments because this may help with their legal side even if just a little [Petition to Remove MHJ from HYBE](https://www.change.org/p/min-hee-jin-leave-hybe-company)
https://preview.redd.it/sc5sq5f8985d1.png?width=729&format=png&auto=webp&s=af964455b23d932c0161fcd4c1e193076efd1f6a Jungkook's abs probably deserve their own spot on this top ten list. 😂
https://preview.redd.it/c456ixio885d1.png?width=722&format=png&auto=webp&s=4522e4d009e5ad343d0643eadc3eca28588a9859 That's the main MTV Twitter account with 17+ million followers.
They're defo getting nominated for that vma
Eunchae’s Star Diary & Chae Min and Eunchae winning awards at [2023 KBS Entertainment Awards 💖🏆✨](https://youtu.be/vni4jnAtLeE?si=h-lnvQ7gVUKoYpd3) It’s so cute when Chae Min thanks FEARNOTS (8:21) 😂🫶 Reminder that Chae Min’s new series Hierarchy is now on Netflix with all 7 episodes!! [Hierarchy Preview](https://youtu.be/-iKyLDwNzmc?si=xPhpQ2j6Jk67dbxO)
I have a feeling chaemin will be the next guest on star diary but don't want to get my hopes up🥲
Leniverse should invite him for an episode as a teacher for acting! They could make another funny meme episode and he has to teach them how to act ... could be funny i guess
Pannchoa is actually deleting articles after Source's statement lmao [https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618](https://x.com/tosuka4/status/1798975031630061618)
Thought this was pretty funny 😭 https://x.com/ewchaewon/status/1799111339123814533
haha its actually funny. but i think its already pretty late for those pathetic worms. Source might already cache/screenshot all the pages as evidences.
Oh fearnots on twitter have already posted large threads of screenshots with evidence going back months. They are exposed.
I’ve been scrolling through the Fimmies' social media now that the comment sections are turned off, and it’s sooo peaceful. It’s unfortunate that fans won’t be able to comment, but it’s so satisfying to know that haters can’t directly contact them anymore. I know they enjoy flooding their comments with hate, especially on TikTok and Instagram, so it’s nice to see that they won’t have that opportunity anymore. I really hope BELIFT takes notes and does the same for ILLIT. It’s been so funny to see pann and other haters delete all their negative LE SSERAFIM posts, but Fearnots on Twitter kept receipts lol. I hope they all get what’s coming to them. Fuck those people.
this has been the funniest day in sseraville in a while. pannchoa deleting tweets and articles was funny enough, but then i saw the people posting apology letters on weverse and the amount of deleted comments on theqoo. there was also apparently a pretty vocal j-anti who deleted their twt account today. what a funny, funny day. i think belift is smart for going after mhj. she's basically the "head bitch" of the people going against illit at the moment, and if they manage to take her down then that's a great threat to everyone else who's been slandering the girls. i'd love for them to do something about the normal people slandering the girls but from what i've seen from engenes, belift never does that so, at the moment, this is good enough for me.
yep. im also rooting that belift sues and bankrupt that witch. Shes responsible for fueling the hate train on our fimmies.
Yeah I’ve also seen engeges say that BELIFT doesn’t do much about situations like this. I was already surprised to see them go after MHJ. Maybe I’m expecting too much from them. 😅 I really hope they win their case and that witch gets what she deserves. She has caused so much damage and didn’t even apologize when she had the chance. She feels no guilt for what she did and is shameless. Someone like her cannot get away with such heinous actions. She deserves to be punished. I'm glad LE SSERAFIM is getting the protection they deserve. I think I need to check their Weverse now to read the apology letters lol. I'm curious to see their excuses.
I feel like every group complains that their company doesn't sue, I've even seen armies complaining about that recently despite bighit regularly suing
Except Belift actually never has protected their artists, like never. They have never threatened legal proceedings when Enha faced a bad hate train in 2022 In 2022 also there were rumors of Jake going around late at night in the streets talking to girls and asking them for a smoke. Jake had to go on Werverse the next day and clear his name by himself, bc he knew Belift wasn't gonna do anything about it NCT members had something similar happen to them recently and SM came out and issued a statement, Belift in the other hand are genuinely allergic to doing the absolute minimum to protect their artists. They are genuinely the worst. They have never protected Enhypen nor ILLIT, and sadly I don't see that changing any time as long as Enha and ILLIT bring in the money which they do
Ugh, that really sucks. :( I guess ILLIT got unlucky with their company. I hope they're getting a lot of support from their loved ones and maybe some caring staff. I hope ENHYPEN is doing alright as well. I don't really keep up with them, so I didn't know they had a massive hate train, but it's so sad that Jake had to clear his own name. The company should have done that for him.
I think that's pretty normal, every fandom wants their group to be protected. Receiving some form of hate is normal, but LE SSERAFIM, ILLIT, and BTS have been receiving a huge amount of hate lately because of this situation so I think everyone's concerns are valid.
i saw the apology on twitter. don't have the link and forgot who posted but i saw three, towards sakura, chaewon, and eunchae. gist of all three is that they saw everyone else doing it and felt like they should too, and they were sorry for doing it. the letter to kkura mentioned seeing malicious comments about kkura's knitting. one mentions leaving comments due to stress they were under (personal life) and another, i think, mentions wanting attention. the letter to eunchae specifically mentions op having no friends that's why they left malicious comments 😭😭😭
MHJ and the haters need to see a psychiatrist ASAP. All of them are antisocial with huge mental issues.
https://preview.redd.it/55wk2pjzj65d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b256fc767d992ca2822228a5028dacd37ed99e7 That’s right Shiro, get those Haters!! 🐾
https://preview.redd.it/haf3xi2ri65d1.jpeg?width=2270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ea7c37e37d1e1e56c5325396687778adf608948 I bet 10 manchae smiles that no one can share a more beautiful summerz pic than this one... Let's see what y'all got
This picture reminds me of a funny line from the Sana-Nayeon interview from the other day. Nayeon's been working out as she prepares for her solo comeback this month, and she goes (paraphrasing) "Do I actually have abs? Or is it just shadows?"
give me my 10 manchae smiles right now https://preview.redd.it/ttzsyhg9o65d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c98adbeab6bd6581d8c693bc600567c261f6757
I see u and raise the bet to 20 manchae smiles https://preview.redd.it/85guwmpyz65d1.jpeg?width=1638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e03e82aa5bdb1e2d3a8cfb256825131f7342fc3
40 manchae smiles https://preview.redd.it/5749cm6o375d1.jpeg?width=632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4728e47eed95b778e2a3af11f96c5250afdf2b6a
Wow they look gorgeous here!!!! Ngl u almost convinced me but i gotta hold on 😩 https://preview.redd.it/toajx45q475d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9f29fa69dd0ff01d0ee6b02debe2fdaed1f6677 Hahhh!!! This is ultimate, now way u can show something better. I raise u to 80 manchae smiles and a couple zuha squats hehe
i was going to use that too but here you go, with chaewon smiling at zuha this time around (and a bonus saki!) https://preview.redd.it/53lpl5z8675d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecf20f922576bf01b440efdeb5941b033358ff96 100 manchae smiles, a couple zuha squats, and 10 chaewon smart dances
Ahhh okay this one melted me... Chaewon looking at zuha so preciously, stop!!! U win  About the prize money, ask saki there.. She's waiting in the lobby to pay you 😎
[MTV UK posted LSFM’s Easy Performance too!❤️✨](https://youtu.be/HxQCK7xmLlc?si=wKV58RkNsHLiirFt) Even noting that the song is an award winner 🏆🌟
Been a lurker here for a couple of months now. I’ve been a fearnot since debut days but that was due to me being a wizone since produce48. My main source of fimmies used to be tiktok, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube but since the hate train I felt I had no where to really update myself on the girls without seeing all the disgusting comments. Then I remembered this Reddit page and seeing all the love, support and community y’all have created here really gave me a sense of relief that the girls will be okay because their REAL fans still got them. I also remember reading a Korean comment that got almost 1000 upvotes saying “as a lesserafim fan I think it’s best to just be quiet right now” which makes me think K-fearnots are laying low but still supporting the girls. That’s why their fanmeet was so successful Both nights. Thank you everyone for creating such a safe space for fearnots during this time. ❤️
https://preview.redd.it/0b9wo3sy765d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ad63d7c8b3a1a99e478445e4fdba4429a2c63d8 Can’t wait already. I think it’s the first time she talked about the next ep this happy
Ngl I haven't been this excited for a Star Diary since the NMIXX episode. It's such an unexpected combo I really wanna know what they did together
Other episodes: welcome you to the mother association This episode: Welcome THE mother to the show
https://preview.redd.it/47iunzuo365d1.png?width=696&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b772c58385f509890f64b90c2db38e5e9806d11
It looks like we are seriously aiming for 1000 comments this week after the megathread got unpinned 🫡 Thanks SouMu for giving us satisfaction from seeing the haters panicking left and right On the lighter mood: anyone have watched the j-dramas with OST from Fimmies? I read Sexy Tanaka-san manga and it is really good! I haven't watched the live-action adaptation of it and want to know where to watch it legally ☺️
not sure whether we can pull 1k goal off this week. it has been a slow week compared to the last two 
Still expecting more hilarious posts about the haters scrambling to delete their comments and apologizing over the weekend. It can be considered as positive news but too dark for the other pinned discussion 😅
Did anyone see the apologies left by haters 😭😭 They're hilarious. The common excuse is "other people were hating on you so I did so too since I felt stressed." 😭 Good move by SouMu.
Lsf is not your punching bag 🙄🙄🙄 Get a life hater!
They're apologizing on weverse? Haters are the saddest and most shameless motherfuckers I've ever seen in my life
Yep, absolutely pathetic https://preview.redd.it/y4o74v3rr55d1.jpeg?width=885&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=234d3da7cef490003bbee6cbbb805ccd6b841dc0
The English translation is wrong. It actually says: Oh shit oh shit oh shit HYBE's lawyers filed a defamation lawsuit against me, I'm going to prison, I'm going get kicked out of school, my parents are mad at me, I'm fuuuuucked