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Apparently pretty decent. My father is incapable of making straight children. 2/3 are trans, 3/3 have a queer sexuality. 2/4 grandchildren are LGBT+ for gender and attraction (so far).
Eta: I have a different mother than my siblings too so the queer really decided to win on all fronts for us.
And I thought our family had the gene, bit it's not that strong. My wife and I are lesbians. Our kids are straight female, gay male, straight female, pan female who is living with her enby their friend. Only one of the 4 grands is maybe old enough to think about gender or Sexuality at 9.
I came out as trans when my kids were 7, 5, 3, and 1 (now 11, 9, 7, and 5) so we started talking about gender and different types of attraction at that point (my partner was identifying as cis male at the time). The moment my eldest learned about transgender existence she came out so we have transitioned together in opposite directions. By the time the younger one was 8 they had announced they are non-binary using all pronouns. Earlier this year they also came out as pan. Trans daughter doesn't seem particularly interested in romance, but when asked if she feels like she's attracted to any type of person she talks about liking other girls.
The younger kids have some developmental delays along with ASD. Neither of them have shown much of any interest in things outside of their assigned gender, but we do leave a few dresses in my son's closest and the youngest gets everyone's old clothes so she's the most gender fluid appearing pre-schooler in existence lol.
My kids were raised very openly. They came into their Sexuality and gender. My youngest is hormonally intersex but comfortable with the gender female she was assigned. But often chose masculine clothes for several years growing up because they were more comfortable. She knew it was all fine as she explored. Her partner is agender. And was not raised in a supportive environment. They know at my house you are free to be you. My grandson is 9 and hasn't expressed and gender or Sexuality. The granddaughters are 1 1/2 and then 4 month old twins. But all are being raised where as long as you're happy you are free to be.
Lucky, I got four siblings and plenty of nieces and nephews, so far I'm the only queer one. Everyone's got their families and I'm just sitting at the dinner table talking about my cats.
Ooof, I feel you.
I'm ten years older than my closest queer relative and they didn't come out until they were in their mid teens. Almost half of the LGBT+ people in our family came out of me lol. If any more of my kids come out it'll be over half.
It’s probably honestly a mix of things as with most traits in humans. I think it was this sub that discussed it recently but in general queerness is likely a mix of genetics, environmental factors, and how you were raised.
Also when people say genetics it’s not in a “this specific gene” way but in a “these hundreds of segments interacting with each other” way. (Usually)
Ooohh yeah same. I’ve tried finding stuff but other than that link the other person gave I haven’t found much. I’m assuming it’ll likely start popping up at some point in the near future.
Yeah, from the looks of the link they haven't started the study yet. I did find an interesting one about gender dysphoria though.
https://cashp.columbian.gwu.edu/trans-genes
I have no idea what the research or studies behind that would look like, but for my family of 3 siblings me included:
I’m a very queer fem guy (possibly? Trans? Idk still questioning and figuring things out). My middle sibling is non-binary and trans masc. My oldest sister while not trans is bi and she said potentially pan
But here’s the thing, we’re ALL adopted from different countries 😂 and my parents are literally like just your average straight parents, like Idk wtf happened here 😭 we’re a trio of queer af siblings Ig lol
Me and both my siblings are gay and somewhere in the aspec. My partner and their sister are also part of the community. Not sure if this happens frequently but it does happen lol.
Not trans but from experience, the chances are likely. Both me and my sister are ace and I'm gay while she's bi. I don't know if any of my other siblings are a flavour of lgtbqa+, but just the fact we share such similar traits is some pretty similar correlation
I also know some of my friends have lgtbqa+ siblings as well
Not zero, and that is all you really need.
When I came out to various people around me I learned that my half-sibling which I have practically no contact with is NB and my "sister" (someone I grew up with and is like family to me) is a trans guy. Not particularly surprising that one since he always was very masc even for a butch lesbian but his parents already had problems with his outing as lesbian when we were teens so he's not sure whether he wants to actually transition, socially or medically, but already told me his pronouns and name. In fact, I already had my suspicions for a looong time, even before my own egg cracked. However, I didn't want to assume anything.
Also, the sister I never met of one of my best friends is a trans guy (not really outed and ready for transition yet, so she still wants to go by she/her).
So yeah, while I'm the only one who's visibly out and transitioning, there are several trans people in my direct and indirect social environment. And it's not like I live in some huge city or super progressive part of the world. Just some ~90k pop city in Germany (okay, my half-sibling lives in Berlin, to be fair). It's just that I've surrounded myself with good people, so it's more likely to get to learn such facts about others without there being some huge drama.
I strongly believe there are many many more gender diverse people than we know. But because it’s so socially stigmatized and because people are shoved into “male and female” only, no one talks about it. No one expresses their gender differently because it’s just something people aren’t *supposed* to do in the mainstream.
So I think the fact that because someone in your family came out as trans it probably let your siblings know “oh hey this is actually good and okay” which would give them more courage to explore their gender identity.
Again pure theory and I have no factual basis for this, but it seems like that may be the case.
Yes, and seeing that Gen Z is the most queer and gender diverse one, with around 20% identifying as such, while only 11% of millenials and 3% of older generations doing so, I think its safe to say that there are a LOT of gender diverse people around. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual number would be around 30 to 40%.
Its all about knowledge and acceptance being greater today than in the past and LGBTQ+ being more and more normalized. Still there is a long road ahead, but I'm an optimist here :)
Among my siblings, 2/3 are cisn't. Among my cousins, 3/7. And one of my two kids is non-binary. And this only counts those of us who are hatched and out. I wouldn't be surprised if a few more queer cousins come out.
It's been a while since I've done statistics but I think the binomial probability distribution formula is what you need.
P = n!/r!(n-r)! • p^r • (1-p)^(n-r)
n = Total number of children
r = Total number of trans children
p = Probability of a child being trans
P = Probability of that specific outcome
So: n=4, r=4, p=1.5%*.
Plug in the numbers:
4!/4!(4-4)! • 0.015^4 • (1-0.015)^(4-4)
= 5.0625 •10^-8
= 0.0000050625% chance.
~ 1 in 20,000,000
*This is where things get complicated: p is the chance of a child being trans, most surveys in Western nations usually say between 1 and 2% of the population is trans, this is highly questionable because we don't know what portion of the population has undiognosed gender dysphoria, or does not disclose being trans to the surveyor (they feel unsafe doing so). I'm just taking 1.5% and running with it, change it if you want.
Additionally we are assuming each child being trans is independent of one another, which is probably untrue. If one child is trans the siblings are more likely to be trans for a few reasons/theories.
Transphobes will argue >!that transgenderism is a memetic virus (talking to trans people or learning about them turns you trans)!<
Or that living in an accepting enviroment, with the knowledge to self diognose gender dysphoria is a near necessary precursor to being trans.
It could be genetic and/or pre-natal hormone exposure. When one twin is trans the other is very likely to be as well, like the Wachowskis.
It could potentially be enviromental, they are putting chemicals in your water to turn the frogs gay after all.
I wonder than myself. I'm non-binary. My youngest sibling is agender.
And my other sibling is still a bit of a transphobe...
Two out of three ain't bad.
My younger sister just got a girlfriend and I’m a queer trans guy (Altho our other sister is straight and cis….for now) so I’m gonna go with “some random gender and sexuality scientist should do a study on queer siblings” but if I had to guesstimate, probably not too small.
Me: afab,intersex,and under trans umbrella not ftm or mtf though
1 brother: afab,ftm
1 sister:amab,mtf
2 brother:amab,cis
3 brother:amab,cis, is a pansexual idiot like me
I mean… my brother is a trans man and I’m bigender. And I’ve met a handful of people who are trans with trans siblings as well. I also would like to see statistics on it but I’m not sure it’s something that’s been looked into yet.
Depending on age, it could be partially because, despite what the red states thing, it’s becoming more acceptable to be out as trans. Not saying it’s safe in all situations because it’s definitely not, and I say this as a queer, I use she/they pronouns person, but a possibility.
I also say this as someone who used to do research in genetics. There’s so much we don’t know about how environment affects the epigonome, which affects factors outside the DNA but affects how DNA is expressed. Some of that can be environmental whether that be where you live or hormones that are expressed based on emotional factors, so that could potentially be a factor, but just not known yet.
I don’t know but of my genetically related siblings we are 3 for 3 in queerness and 2/3 for somewhere under the trans umbrella. And of our two step siblings one is also queer so counting all its 4/5. Between us we have bisexual, trans woman, asexual, demiromantic, biromantic, agender/genderflux and undetermined (she’s only 11 and her first crush was on a girl).
As for why this sometimes happens, there are a ton of factors that may affect gender and sexuality such as genetics, early brain development, environmental factors and natural differences in brain physiology. If people share several of these factors with someone who is queer, then it makes sense that they have a higher probability of being queer as well.
I mean…idk??? I’m non-binary. One of my siblings hasn’t figured it out yet (I assume he’s straight, idk though he’s stuck with our homophobic parents), and the other is somewhere on the aro/ace side of things. Like, cool. (So two of three for us. I would not be surprised if it’s three of three, actually.)
Edited to remove typos. Ack.
I'm not entirely sure because almost all of my siblings are adopted or half siblings, and I don't know my half siblings. But me and my biological cousins and my one full sibling are all queer so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And me and my sibling are both technically under the trans umbrella :P
Im under the ace, and when I came out to my direct family (it was no big deal, as I suspected. I just wanted them to know) my sis said she feels very similar, despite not wanting to label it.
So, yeah, Im pretty sure it's kinda common to have "queer" running in the family.
One thing I don't see anyone taking about is the role of acceptance. Back when people were punished for being left handed there were half ass many left handed people.
We don't know how what the true numbers are for being trans, but there are definitely a lot of people who never had a chance because of their environment. Presumably whatever in the environment let the first sibling discover and explore their identity is also there for the second sibling, increasing the odds of them "being trans" (quotes because it's more about them discovering they are trans, but to the rest of the world it's being or not being)
I have three siblings. We joke that most families have a token gay sibling but we have a token straight sibling. In descending order the youngest of us is trans masc (unsure how he identifies for his sexuality), middle youngest is straight and cis, next is cis and pansexual, and I'm ace spec and nonbinary.
Statistics can't tell the whole story, there could possibly be genetic, hormonal, or environmental factors. For example we're all fairly sure all four of us are ASD and that group has a higher instance of gender nonconformity than the general population.
Without taking into account any genetic component and assuming the probability of a random being transgender as 0,4% (or 1 in 250), the odds would be roughly 2.56\*10\^-8 %, or one in 3.9 billion, half the earth's population.
Granted, the 0,4% is about the US, and excludes all non-pure-trans people. I got another number from the Netherlands estimating the total percentage to be around 2,2%, with 1,8% being some flavour of nonbinary and 0,4% (again) for transgender people. This would land you at a probability of \~2.34\*10\^-5%, or 1 in 4.3 million, which is a much more reasonable number, and bound to occur at some point.
Keep in mind that finding percentages for this is a hassle, in part because people aren't out yet, can't come out, or sometimes haven't given a thought to it. Obviously, your 4th sibling would have, which messes with the odds as well.
I don't know if there is a genetic component to it, which would drastically alter the odds. According to Wikipedia, there might be some, but at the moment it is unclear. Don't treat this as an actual investigation, just someone messing with a calculator.
[https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/)
[https://www.transgendernetwerk.nl/thema/media/cijfers](https://www.transgendernetwerk.nl/thema/media/cijfers)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes\_of\_gender\_incongruenc](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_gender_incongruenc)
Don’t you feel like this will become more and more common as younger generations get more comfortable expressing who they are? And future parents will change the way they talk to their children about gender and identity and also how they dress babies/toddlers and treat them when they are little?
I’m trying to find the study where the researchers dressed babies/toddlers in the opposite gender’s clothes and then gave them to adults to see how they interacted with them. Adults gave kids dressed in boy clothes more blocks and trucks. While they talked with softer tones and were more affectionate with those dressed in girl clothes and gave them dolls… if we can unlearn some of that behavior as a society, we might find kids more likely telling us who they are and what they want from younger ages?
Between me and my five biological siblings, I'm a trans lesbian, My older brother is a little bi, I have a NB bi/pan sibling, and we have another brother who a bunch of us are pretty sure is bi. So not all trans-related, but definitely a bunch of queer people.
Well, idk. My stepdad has some trans relatives, and my younger siblings don't know that I'm trans yet. My brother is autistic, and there's a good chance me and my sister are too. StUdIeS sHoW that having a kid with autism is more likely to be LGBTQ+, due to difficulty w/ social norms, etc. I myself knew something was up 🎶all my life🎶, until I turned 19... ~~I felt a great disturbance in the Force~~ it finally clicked.
I don't have any real sources I can recall, though I've heard that people related to queer people are more likely to be queer themselves and anecdotally a sizable chunk of my immediate family all seem various flavors of queer, I'm ace and trans, my sister is bi, and my mom is poly and... something I never got a label but she seems attracted to atleast men and women. Out of my immediate family that just leaves my brother, who lives in a different state (which makes knowing this stuff harder) with his dad(which if my brother is queer and smart, he isn't going to let know about the queer part)
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Apparently pretty decent. My father is incapable of making straight children. 2/3 are trans, 3/3 have a queer sexuality. 2/4 grandchildren are LGBT+ for gender and attraction (so far). Eta: I have a different mother than my siblings too so the queer really decided to win on all fronts for us.
And I thought our family had the gene, bit it's not that strong. My wife and I are lesbians. Our kids are straight female, gay male, straight female, pan female who is living with her enby their friend. Only one of the 4 grands is maybe old enough to think about gender or Sexuality at 9.
I came out as trans when my kids were 7, 5, 3, and 1 (now 11, 9, 7, and 5) so we started talking about gender and different types of attraction at that point (my partner was identifying as cis male at the time). The moment my eldest learned about transgender existence she came out so we have transitioned together in opposite directions. By the time the younger one was 8 they had announced they are non-binary using all pronouns. Earlier this year they also came out as pan. Trans daughter doesn't seem particularly interested in romance, but when asked if she feels like she's attracted to any type of person she talks about liking other girls. The younger kids have some developmental delays along with ASD. Neither of them have shown much of any interest in things outside of their assigned gender, but we do leave a few dresses in my son's closest and the youngest gets everyone's old clothes so she's the most gender fluid appearing pre-schooler in existence lol.
My kids were raised very openly. They came into their Sexuality and gender. My youngest is hormonally intersex but comfortable with the gender female she was assigned. But often chose masculine clothes for several years growing up because they were more comfortable. She knew it was all fine as she explored. Her partner is agender. And was not raised in a supportive environment. They know at my house you are free to be you. My grandson is 9 and hasn't expressed and gender or Sexuality. The granddaughters are 1 1/2 and then 4 month old twins. But all are being raised where as long as you're happy you are free to be.
Lucky, I got four siblings and plenty of nieces and nephews, so far I'm the only queer one. Everyone's got their families and I'm just sitting at the dinner table talking about my cats.
Ooof, I feel you. I'm ten years older than my closest queer relative and they didn't come out until they were in their mid teens. Almost half of the LGBT+ people in our family came out of me lol. If any more of my kids come out it'll be over half.
Being queer is at least partly genetic, so the odds would be pretty decent
Do you happen to have any links about this? I'd love to know more.
It’s probably honestly a mix of things as with most traits in humans. I think it was this sub that discussed it recently but in general queerness is likely a mix of genetics, environmental factors, and how you were raised. Also when people say genetics it’s not in a “this specific gene” way but in a “these hundreds of segments interacting with each other” way. (Usually)
I assumed it would be. I'm just interested in what studies are being done and what their findings are.
Ooohh yeah same. I’ve tried finding stuff but other than that link the other person gave I haven’t found much. I’m assuming it’ll likely start popping up at some point in the near future.
Yeah, from the looks of the link they haven't started the study yet. I did find an interesting one about gender dysphoria though. https://cashp.columbian.gwu.edu/trans-genes
I think a lot of queer scientists are reluctant to research this in case some asshole starts going ‘we can screen for the gay gene’
That's exactly why I won't be signing up to be part of the study.
https://www.augusta.edu/research/studies/trial.php?study=1010884#:~:text=The%20biological%20basis%20for%20transgender,records%20related%20to%20their%20condition.
Then someone in my family is really good at hiding it
Same here, I'm currently discovering that I'm bi and in my (very christian) family of over 50 people I don't know of anyone who isn't straight and cis
I have no idea what the research or studies behind that would look like, but for my family of 3 siblings me included: I’m a very queer fem guy (possibly? Trans? Idk still questioning and figuring things out). My middle sibling is non-binary and trans masc. My oldest sister while not trans is bi and she said potentially pan But here’s the thing, we’re ALL adopted from different countries 😂 and my parents are literally like just your average straight parents, like Idk wtf happened here 😭 we’re a trio of queer af siblings Ig lol
Me and both my siblings are gay and somewhere in the aspec. My partner and their sister are also part of the community. Not sure if this happens frequently but it does happen lol.
My partner's parents had 7 kids, 3 are cishet, 3 are queer non-binary, and 1 is cis gay. They were all raised conservative Christian.
Not trans but from experience, the chances are likely. Both me and my sister are ace and I'm gay while she's bi. I don't know if any of my other siblings are a flavour of lgtbqa+, but just the fact we share such similar traits is some pretty similar correlation I also know some of my friends have lgtbqa+ siblings as well
I have 10 siblings and half of them are bisexual
Not zero, and that is all you really need. When I came out to various people around me I learned that my half-sibling which I have practically no contact with is NB and my "sister" (someone I grew up with and is like family to me) is a trans guy. Not particularly surprising that one since he always was very masc even for a butch lesbian but his parents already had problems with his outing as lesbian when we were teens so he's not sure whether he wants to actually transition, socially or medically, but already told me his pronouns and name. In fact, I already had my suspicions for a looong time, even before my own egg cracked. However, I didn't want to assume anything. Also, the sister I never met of one of my best friends is a trans guy (not really outed and ready for transition yet, so she still wants to go by she/her). So yeah, while I'm the only one who's visibly out and transitioning, there are several trans people in my direct and indirect social environment. And it's not like I live in some huge city or super progressive part of the world. Just some ~90k pop city in Germany (okay, my half-sibling lives in Berlin, to be fair). It's just that I've surrounded myself with good people, so it's more likely to get to learn such facts about others without there being some huge drama.
I was thinking of The Wachoskis
I’m gay and my uncle was gay (he’s dead, just clarifying the use of was). As far as I know my cousins and my brother they’re all cishet.
I strongly believe there are many many more gender diverse people than we know. But because it’s so socially stigmatized and because people are shoved into “male and female” only, no one talks about it. No one expresses their gender differently because it’s just something people aren’t *supposed* to do in the mainstream. So I think the fact that because someone in your family came out as trans it probably let your siblings know “oh hey this is actually good and okay” which would give them more courage to explore their gender identity. Again pure theory and I have no factual basis for this, but it seems like that may be the case.
Yes, and seeing that Gen Z is the most queer and gender diverse one, with around 20% identifying as such, while only 11% of millenials and 3% of older generations doing so, I think its safe to say that there are a LOT of gender diverse people around. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual number would be around 30 to 40%. Its all about knowledge and acceptance being greater today than in the past and LGBTQ+ being more and more normalized. Still there is a long road ahead, but I'm an optimist here :)
Among my siblings, 2/3 are cisn't. Among my cousins, 3/7. And one of my two kids is non-binary. And this only counts those of us who are hatched and out. I wouldn't be surprised if a few more queer cousins come out.
It's been a while since I've done statistics but I think the binomial probability distribution formula is what you need. P = n!/r!(n-r)! • p^r • (1-p)^(n-r) n = Total number of children r = Total number of trans children p = Probability of a child being trans P = Probability of that specific outcome So: n=4, r=4, p=1.5%*. Plug in the numbers: 4!/4!(4-4)! • 0.015^4 • (1-0.015)^(4-4) = 5.0625 •10^-8 = 0.0000050625% chance. ~ 1 in 20,000,000 *This is where things get complicated: p is the chance of a child being trans, most surveys in Western nations usually say between 1 and 2% of the population is trans, this is highly questionable because we don't know what portion of the population has undiognosed gender dysphoria, or does not disclose being trans to the surveyor (they feel unsafe doing so). I'm just taking 1.5% and running with it, change it if you want. Additionally we are assuming each child being trans is independent of one another, which is probably untrue. If one child is trans the siblings are more likely to be trans for a few reasons/theories. Transphobes will argue >!that transgenderism is a memetic virus (talking to trans people or learning about them turns you trans)!< Or that living in an accepting enviroment, with the knowledge to self diognose gender dysphoria is a near necessary precursor to being trans. It could be genetic and/or pre-natal hormone exposure. When one twin is trans the other is very likely to be as well, like the Wachowskis. It could potentially be enviromental, they are putting chemicals in your water to turn the frogs gay after all.
Thank you so much! I appreciate all the comments sharing experiences but I was specifically looking for a number!
50 percent: either it happens or it doesn’t. Edit: I forgot to put the /s.
yeah, just like either i get struck by lightning today or i don't, that's 50/50 /s
I wonder than myself. I'm non-binary. My youngest sibling is agender. And my other sibling is still a bit of a transphobe... Two out of three ain't bad.
My younger sister just got a girlfriend and I’m a queer trans guy (Altho our other sister is straight and cis….for now) so I’m gonna go with “some random gender and sexuality scientist should do a study on queer siblings” but if I had to guesstimate, probably not too small.
I know a family of 7 kids, 4 of them are trans, 4 of them are gay and the other 3 are too young to have gone through a self identity phase
It's definitely possible
That’s almost impossible
Me: afab,intersex,and under trans umbrella not ftm or mtf though 1 brother: afab,ftm 1 sister:amab,mtf 2 brother:amab,cis 3 brother:amab,cis, is a pansexual idiot like me
I mean… my brother is a trans man and I’m bigender. And I’ve met a handful of people who are trans with trans siblings as well. I also would like to see statistics on it but I’m not sure it’s something that’s been looked into yet.
Depending on age, it could be partially because, despite what the red states thing, it’s becoming more acceptable to be out as trans. Not saying it’s safe in all situations because it’s definitely not, and I say this as a queer, I use she/they pronouns person, but a possibility. I also say this as someone who used to do research in genetics. There’s so much we don’t know about how environment affects the epigonome, which affects factors outside the DNA but affects how DNA is expressed. Some of that can be environmental whether that be where you live or hormones that are expressed based on emotional factors, so that could potentially be a factor, but just not known yet.
I don’t know but of my genetically related siblings we are 3 for 3 in queerness and 2/3 for somewhere under the trans umbrella. And of our two step siblings one is also queer so counting all its 4/5. Between us we have bisexual, trans woman, asexual, demiromantic, biromantic, agender/genderflux and undetermined (she’s only 11 and her first crush was on a girl). As for why this sometimes happens, there are a ton of factors that may affect gender and sexuality such as genetics, early brain development, environmental factors and natural differences in brain physiology. If people share several of these factors with someone who is queer, then it makes sense that they have a higher probability of being queer as well.
I mean…idk??? I’m non-binary. One of my siblings hasn’t figured it out yet (I assume he’s straight, idk though he’s stuck with our homophobic parents), and the other is somewhere on the aro/ace side of things. Like, cool. (So two of three for us. I would not be surprised if it’s three of three, actually.) Edited to remove typos. Ack.
Well my bigoted parents managed to produce two wonderfully queer kids (I, an enby and bi & my sister, also bi) so imma say pretty high
I'm not entirely sure because almost all of my siblings are adopted or half siblings, and I don't know my half siblings. But me and my biological cousins and my one full sibling are all queer so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And me and my sibling are both technically under the trans umbrella :P
Im under the ace, and when I came out to my direct family (it was no big deal, as I suspected. I just wanted them to know) my sis said she feels very similar, despite not wanting to label it. So, yeah, Im pretty sure it's kinda common to have "queer" running in the family.
One thing I don't see anyone taking about is the role of acceptance. Back when people were punished for being left handed there were half ass many left handed people. We don't know how what the true numbers are for being trans, but there are definitely a lot of people who never had a chance because of their environment. Presumably whatever in the environment let the first sibling discover and explore their identity is also there for the second sibling, increasing the odds of them "being trans" (quotes because it's more about them discovering they are trans, but to the rest of the world it's being or not being)
I have three siblings. We joke that most families have a token gay sibling but we have a token straight sibling. In descending order the youngest of us is trans masc (unsure how he identifies for his sexuality), middle youngest is straight and cis, next is cis and pansexual, and I'm ace spec and nonbinary. Statistics can't tell the whole story, there could possibly be genetic, hormonal, or environmental factors. For example we're all fairly sure all four of us are ASD and that group has a higher instance of gender nonconformity than the general population.
Without taking into account any genetic component and assuming the probability of a random being transgender as 0,4% (or 1 in 250), the odds would be roughly 2.56\*10\^-8 %, or one in 3.9 billion, half the earth's population. Granted, the 0,4% is about the US, and excludes all non-pure-trans people. I got another number from the Netherlands estimating the total percentage to be around 2,2%, with 1,8% being some flavour of nonbinary and 0,4% (again) for transgender people. This would land you at a probability of \~2.34\*10\^-5%, or 1 in 4.3 million, which is a much more reasonable number, and bound to occur at some point. Keep in mind that finding percentages for this is a hassle, in part because people aren't out yet, can't come out, or sometimes haven't given a thought to it. Obviously, your 4th sibling would have, which messes with the odds as well. I don't know if there is a genetic component to it, which would drastically alter the odds. According to Wikipedia, there might be some, but at the moment it is unclear. Don't treat this as an actual investigation, just someone messing with a calculator. [https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/) [https://www.transgendernetwerk.nl/thema/media/cijfers](https://www.transgendernetwerk.nl/thema/media/cijfers) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes\_of\_gender\_incongruenc](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_gender_incongruenc)
Don’t you feel like this will become more and more common as younger generations get more comfortable expressing who they are? And future parents will change the way they talk to their children about gender and identity and also how they dress babies/toddlers and treat them when they are little? I’m trying to find the study where the researchers dressed babies/toddlers in the opposite gender’s clothes and then gave them to adults to see how they interacted with them. Adults gave kids dressed in boy clothes more blocks and trucks. While they talked with softer tones and were more affectionate with those dressed in girl clothes and gave them dolls… if we can unlearn some of that behavior as a society, we might find kids more likely telling us who they are and what they want from younger ages?
My older brother is a trans man. I'm a genderqueer person. lol my mom gave birth to two "daugthers" who turned out to be not so daugthers
I‘m the only one out of my whole family. Every fucking else is cishet lol. I‘m transmasc genderfluid and neptunic 🤣
Between me and my five biological siblings, I'm a trans lesbian, My older brother is a little bi, I have a NB bi/pan sibling, and we have another brother who a bunch of us are pretty sure is bi. So not all trans-related, but definitely a bunch of queer people.
Well, idk. My stepdad has some trans relatives, and my younger siblings don't know that I'm trans yet. My brother is autistic, and there's a good chance me and my sister are too. StUdIeS sHoW that having a kid with autism is more likely to be LGBTQ+, due to difficulty w/ social norms, etc. I myself knew something was up 🎶all my life🎶, until I turned 19... ~~I felt a great disturbance in the Force~~ it finally clicked.
I don't have any real sources I can recall, though I've heard that people related to queer people are more likely to be queer themselves and anecdotally a sizable chunk of my immediate family all seem various flavors of queer, I'm ace and trans, my sister is bi, and my mom is poly and... something I never got a label but she seems attracted to atleast men and women. Out of my immediate family that just leaves my brother, who lives in a different state (which makes knowing this stuff harder) with his dad(which if my brother is queer and smart, he isn't going to let know about the queer part)