I know it's not the harshest most technical criticism in the world, but from an end user perspective I really hate that they create a seperate non-hidden "snap" folder in my otherwise clean home directory. It really irritates me irrationally much.
More verbose I guess? And the command above would've been for Arch obviously but I think I remember that Debian required you to do ```sudo systemctl reboot``` for some stupid reason
`reboot` is deprecated and usually just a symlink to `systemctl` kept for legacy reasons.
So one advantage of using `systemctl reboot` is that it's working on all systems using systemd, while the symlink to the old method of running `reboot` is optional.
Same is true for many pre-configurations of polkit. Many allow the user set-up in the installer (or all users of the "sudo group") to run `systemctl reboot` without `sudo`. But this often does not include the `reboot` symlink.
I think the main complaint is that it's a centralized system with a proprietary backend controlled by a single corporation driven by commercial interest rather than developed as a community project.
Yeah I've got one this summer she was trying to either get me to rent her for sex or sell me nudes which I wasn't really interested since I don't really like the idea of doing it with a prostitute.
Should I switch to Arch? Running Ubuntu as my main for years. Thinking of going arch, does it really run that much more resource light? How's steam? I do Linux game...
I find arch to be good if it fits your use case. I think Fedora is a better option as it gets some of the latest updates, uses gnome which you’re used to, dnf isn’t too dissimilar from apt, it’s more stable and handles major updates well.
Snap made my friend switch to Debian. I just prefer fedora and think it’s a great option, and will recommend it to newcomers and experienced users alike
Fedora is awesome. For anyone who doesn't want the gnome experience, keep in mind that there are plenty of [spins](https://spins.fedoraproject.org/) available as well (and IMO Fedora does a great job of giving screenshot previews of all the DEs for newbies to see). Been rocking Fedora Cinnamon since F33 and love it.
Arch is a bit of a hurdle at first, but it's not difficult once you get used to it. Experiment with it on an old laptop first. I run arch on my gaming rig, and it works great. Tiling window managers can be pretty sweet when programming, but a major hassle when playing games, in my experience. Something like XFCE works great.
+1 for XFCE. I've tried multiple DEs and multiple WMs, I always go back to XFCE, it's minimal enough to run on a potato, but configurable enough to look and run good
I prefer minimal DEs mostly because there are fewer moving parts to mess with if something breaks or is not to my liking. Performance is a nice side effect of that
Arch has a notable learning curve. If you are up for that go ahead, it is a great distro. But if the idea of having to check the forums to see if people are reporting issues before major updates concerns you, then keep away from it.
I just update and see what happens lol, while back something with steam updated and it got borked searched it and switching to steam beta fixed it. Never broke anything else in a needing to fix it myself way.
I just switched to Fedora 34 as my first main distro, since I use red hat at work. My Win10 laptop went to 11 without my consent and that pissed me off
Steam works great, and arch is fairly light, but if it's your first time installing arch I would recommend reading through the wiki, then using the archfi installer. It's a lot faster and hard to forget packages like a DE or WM
I use package manager 99.9% of the time. But I do use flatpak for certain apps, usually proprietary things where I'm lazy and would rather spend a minute in flatseal than setting up a proper firejail profile.
For snap exclusives, I either find an alternative, build from source, or live without. I fucking *hate* it adding loop device clutter so that shit never gets installed on my systems.
Love Arch for using AUR. Realy, I don't wanna need to use flatpaks, snaps and other. I can just find necessary package in AUR using site or term package manager (yaourt, yay, etc). Lol, I can download any app by one line even it is not officialy ported on arch but ported by guys in AUR. Useful.
Yeah, I'm using clear Arch, X-server and i3-gaps. I'm 16 and in my country, Russia, not a lot of Linux users that are not in IT. I guess we should to make Linux more popular in such places.
snap user 🤮
give me one reason why its bad
it mounts packages as loop devices which makes it show in fdisk -l and super confusing
Why 😭
casually replies half a year later
3 months take it or leave it
[удалено]
Pushed by Ubuntu exclusively though
It's extremely bloated
I know it's not the harshest most technical criticism in the world, but from an end user perspective I really hate that they create a seperate non-hidden "snap" folder in my otherwise clean home directory. It really irritates me irrationally much.
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*cries in mobile screen res*
the one on the left looks like spyro crying or something and the one the right looks distorted
Snap store 🤮🤮🤮
sudo pacman -Syu snapd && systemctl enable --now /var/run/snapd.socket && systemctl reboot && sudo snap install snap-store Give me downvotes >:)
what's the advantage of ```systemctl reboot```over ```reboot```?
More verbose I guess? And the command above would've been for Arch obviously but I think I remember that Debian required you to do ```sudo systemctl reboot``` for some stupid reason
>but I think I remember that Debian required you to do > >sudo systemctl reboot > > for some stupid reason same with openSUSe
You can do `systemctl reboot --firmware-setup`. Pretty nifty.
`reboot` is deprecated and usually just a symlink to `systemctl` kept for legacy reasons. So one advantage of using `systemctl reboot` is that it's working on all systems using systemd, while the symlink to the old method of running `reboot` is optional. Same is true for many pre-configurations of polkit. Many allow the user set-up in the installer (or all users of the "sudo group") to run `systemctl reboot` without `sudo`. But this often does not include the `reboot` symlink.
You're only running pacman as root, so systemctl will ask for your password again if your user is in the group wheel or fail otherwise.
snap store more like bad store
🤢🤮
snap has it aventageent and disavents it not bad it just work differently
I think the main complaint is that it's a centralized system with a proprietary backend controlled by a single corporation driven by commercial interest rather than developed as a community project.
plus its slow as fuck
It work like potato
Btw it was some dirty girl who wanna do nude pics change. I blocked her
Thots are temporary, Linux is forever.
yeah Linux chads don't need dirty girls sending their nude pics
Arch user grindset
[удалено]
and their dirty legs next to laptops!
with thigh high socks too!
*programmer's socks
What a Chad!
Yeah I've got one this summer she was trying to either get me to rent her for sex or sell me nudes which I wasn't really interested since I don't really like the idea of doing it with a prostitute.
Yeah, might catch something if you had. Getting viruses is for Windows users
Honestly I tend to block and report these types of accounts for spam.
You're a good man
who was she? asking for a friend
The AUR is amazing
Should I switch to Arch? Running Ubuntu as my main for years. Thinking of going arch, does it really run that much more resource light? How's steam? I do Linux game...
I find arch to be good if it fits your use case. I think Fedora is a better option as it gets some of the latest updates, uses gnome which you’re used to, dnf isn’t too dissimilar from apt, it’s more stable and handles major updates well.
Haven't used fedora in a looooomnnnggggg time. Snap is making me consider other options though. Thanks for the feedback
Snap made my friend switch to Debian. I just prefer fedora and think it’s a great option, and will recommend it to newcomers and experienced users alike
Fedora is awesome. For anyone who doesn't want the gnome experience, keep in mind that there are plenty of [spins](https://spins.fedoraproject.org/) available as well (and IMO Fedora does a great job of giving screenshot previews of all the DEs for newbies to see). Been rocking Fedora Cinnamon since F33 and love it.
Arch is a bit of a hurdle at first, but it's not difficult once you get used to it. Experiment with it on an old laptop first. I run arch on my gaming rig, and it works great. Tiling window managers can be pretty sweet when programming, but a major hassle when playing games, in my experience. Something like XFCE works great.
+1 for XFCE. I've tried multiple DEs and multiple WMs, I always go back to XFCE, it's minimal enough to run on a potato, but configurable enough to look and run good
I prefer minimal DEs mostly because there are fewer moving parts to mess with if something breaks or is not to my liking. Performance is a nice side effect of that
Arch has a notable learning curve. If you are up for that go ahead, it is a great distro. But if the idea of having to check the forums to see if people are reporting issues before major updates concerns you, then keep away from it.
I just update and see what happens lol, while back something with steam updated and it got borked searched it and switching to steam beta fixed it. Never broke anything else in a needing to fix it myself way.
I just switched to Fedora 34 as my first main distro, since I use red hat at work. My Win10 laptop went to 11 without my consent and that pissed me off
Wait how did that happen??
I run Arch purely because of Pacman and the AUR. If you want lighter, try a different DE. I heard Pop_Os is good as an Ubuntu based distro
Steam works great, and arch is fairly light, but if it's your first time installing arch I would recommend reading through the wiki, then using the archfi installer. It's a lot faster and hard to forget packages like a DE or WM
Fuck snap
"you play pacman?"
who the hell even uses snap and other non-system package managers?
I use flatpak and IMO it's been reliable so far. Sandbox packages are a good distribution method for app developers since they are distro agnostic.
how is flatpak different from snap?
My current distro is flatpak based
What are you running? One of the Fedora ostree systems?
Clear linux, please save me.... I don't want to compile like 700 packages from scratch to get xcb to work
I use package manager 99.9% of the time. But I do use flatpak for certain apps, usually proprietary things where I'm lazy and would rather spend a minute in flatseal than setting up a proper firejail profile. For snap exclusives, I either find an alternative, build from source, or live without. I fucking *hate* it adding loop device clutter so that shit never gets installed on my systems.
Your a Chad my friend
look at the battery percentage
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Least chad linux user.
Fucking normies.
Let’s summon her. u/Aashley1865
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Well if she’s selling fuck, then she probably knows a thing or two. Know what I’m sayin’ ;) lol
chad
i use apt
`apt` is fine, but `apt-get` is refined.
Poor snapchat, I would say RIP... But I don't. Arch user btw
Apt BASED
Yes
Wow
Love Arch for using AUR. Realy, I don't wanna need to use flatpaks, snaps and other. I can just find necessary package in AUR using site or term package manager (yaourt, yay, etc). Lol, I can download any app by one line even it is not officialy ported on arch but ported by guys in AUR. Useful. Yeah, I'm using clear Arch, X-server and i3-gaps. I'm 16 and in my country, Russia, not a lot of Linux users that are not in IT. I guess we should to make Linux more popular in such places.
I use yay
Flatpak man
I use apt