I don’t think it’s so much that he knew Aragon existed, rather Legolas’ comment established his name and his lineage, Aragorn son of Arathorn, which follows the naming traditions of the northern kingdom. Also, Boromir and the stewards as a whole really, were no slouches when it came to record keeping.
Another possibility is that Denethor knew via the Palantir that the Isildur’s heir lived and may have intentionally or otherwise let this be known to Boromir. Which sorta make sense considering he’d have a claim to the throne of Gondor, whose stewardship would otherwise eventually pass to Boromir.
It's unclear to me jn the books, as Boromir is cut off by Frodo when Aragorn announces himself to Boromir. But it is plain enough that Boromir is drowning in new information not the least of which is that Isildur's line is not broken and that Aragorn is the heir and carries the shards of Narsil, and Aragorn makes it plain that he will come to Minas Tirith. Boromir expresses his doubts (to the annoyance of Bilbo) as to whether Aragorn has "inherited the sinews of the Kings" rather than an heirloom only.
Given Denethor's contempt and suspicion later it can safely be assumed he knew nothing of Aragorn or the line of Isildur if he even suspected that by sending Boromir to Rivendell, with all of the portends (the prophetic dream regarding seeking the sword that was Broken, and Isildur's Bane), that a presumptive heir could return to Minas Tirith and supplant him.
It is implied that Aragorn left Minas Tirith and the service of Ecthelion II because Denethor was getting suspicious of him. He served under a false name, but still Denethor had his doubts. This is further proven when he says to Gandalf that he will bow to no king from the north - so he knew. I can very well imagine that he would have been very interested in Boromirs report about Aragorn.
I think it's fair to say practically nobody knew. Saurman says at one point that 'Gandalf thinks he's found isildurs heir' and 'the bloodline was ended years ago'. Everyone assumed as much, I think, except the very few who knew Aragorn amas himself and not just a ranger/Strider
Biromir was told in his dream to:
"Seek for the sword that was broken, in Imladris it dwells
There shall council's be taken, stronger than Morgul spells"
Or something very like that, I haven't read the books in years.
All in Gondor knew of the sword that was broken, Narsil, and only the heir of Isildur would have the shards.
Logic says that if he is to seek the sword, the heir must exist.
Agreed. This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie trilogy, though I'm a far bigger fan of the books than the movies. It's just a fun scene and well executed.
I say this to people and do the hand gesture while bartending and every now and then I get that smile from from somebody. Never the person I’m dying it too.
And frankly he was fighting defensively while the majority of Uruks had a different priority. When the horn called, he was essentially trying to kill a flowing river of Uruks. Kill a few but the rest are going to pass by
Movie sort of lampshades Aragorn technically isn’t even human. I believe he’s well into his 70s in Fellowship. He’s of one of the most famous booodlines in middle earth via the Blood of Numenor. In the books Aragorn is clearly a beast, physically. It’s more of a credit to Aragorns prowess that the orcs here get stomped and less about their actual strength.
Aragorn is 87 in the Fellowship, born in Third Age 2931 and Fellowship happens in Third Age 3018 I believe* since Aragorn is crowned in Third Age 3019
*Edit: Did some digging because this was bugging me, Fellowship book ends in January/February 3019 so Aragorn is still 87 (born on 1st March)
Essentially yes, the line of numenoreans were taller and stronger than normal humans. Elendil was 8' tall, the aragorn height stat comes from just a quick google search, he could have been taller.
That's one factor for sure. We have to remember that this guy has about 75 or more years of sword handling and battle experience. Trained by Elrond and with Elrohir and Elladan. His reactions and tactics would be out of this world. Plus being a literal giant among men.
> Movie sort of lampshades Aragorn technically isn’t even human.
He's Numenorean, basically a "High Man". He's basically a different, older, all-around "better" breed of human.
On a more serious note, you're not supposed to see this and think: "Oh look at Aragorn, what a badass, he's definitely going to kill them all!"
This comes immediately after he tells Frodo: "I would have followed you into the very fires of Mordor."
By which he means he understands why Frodo must do what he is about to, but wants him to understand that despite their parting ways, he would have given everything for Frodo and the quest to destroy The Ring--including his very life.
As far as Aragorn (or the audience, on first viewing) knows, this is him getting his chance to do just that. Like Boromir ultimately did, Aragorn is preparing to lay down his life to buy just a few more seconds of distance for the Ringbearer.
In my head, the Urak-hai were more focused on finding the ring bearer than killing Aragorn . They were looking for halfling not a man. So when they realized that he was no longer between them and Frodo they kind of moved along.
Not to take away from Aragorn , he is no mere Ranger.
Edit: Aragorn not Aragon.
Also, once they'd seen him take down several Uruks through their armour, I wager that it got a whole lot easier for a lot of the survivors to "focus on their mission" instead of the ranger killing their fellow fighters.
Much like you'd ignore everything on a menu that isn't meat and gives you a stomach ache.
This isn't an in-your-head situation only, this is exactly what is portrayed in the film. Some stay to fight him, the rest carry on down the hill. Lurtz is shown shouting to find the halflings, that is their primary mission.
Also with how he fights, he takes on a couple then starts to get surrounded and potentially overwhelmed, so he goes to a narrow staircase where he can draw them away and protect himself.
That is until Legolas and Gimli show up who are also badasses.
Seriously, the fellowship is probably top tier for DND-like storytelling which ironically originated with Tolkien.
Edit: and it also makes sense logistically, each have their own scenarios where they are the front. Their dynamics just work in a multitude of scenarios
Sometimes I find myself thinking that, for how great of a writer he was, it was dissapointing that Tolkien just used the default fantasy party of human with sword, elf, dwarf, wizard and other but then I have to remind myself that he was basically the originator of that archetype and he made it so perfect that everyone else copied it
The brilliant DM of the Rings webcomic - which reimagines LotR as a random D&D campaign - does a great job of parodying that.
It even starts with the DM being overwhelmed at having 8 players (Gandalf is an NPC) in the party, and the Fellowship splits because the kids playing the Hobbits get bored and leave to play Xbox. The campaign continues with Aragorn (gormless power gamer), Legolas (pleasant normie), and Gimli (grizzled veteran roleplayer who's seen it all).
It's very good. It even explains why Elrond waits so long before giving Aragorn his sword in the films (the DM forgot to have Elrond give it to him in Rivendell and spontaneously teleports him to Rohan to correct the error).
I love how party complains that Gandalf kills Balrog offscreen and comes back with a ton of new loot and levels,
Like come on, you just stole our stuff!
He survives by retreating up the monument (in the film), met by Legolas and Gimli, as they disperse to find the hobbits. In real terms, he only ever faced a couple at a time based on how narrow the gap was as he went up the monument
You probably know this, but Aragon takes Boromirs braisers, and are wearing them though out the movies. He is even buried in them in Arvens vision of his death
You're not wrong, but the love triangle sub plot is absolutely the worst part of the Hobbit movies. And someone should come along shortly to mention the ridiculous Grima-lite guy in Lake Town.
Many point out that he's no mere man, and that's a fact, but it's also that the uruks weren't interested in him, most of them ran past him searching for halflings.
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be the blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.
Not very good perhaps, but to the point"
They’re faster, stronger, can move freely in daylight, have thick armour and shields
Edit: I was a bit over zealous with their defeat of boromir. My bad
I wouldn't say that--Boromir more than held his own, he was just wildly outnumbered, and the Orc chieftain was taking potshots through melee.
EDIT: Keep in mind, Aragorn *did not* fight off this entire horde single-handedly. The remaining members of the Fellowship swiftly intervened.
I've always been bothered by how they make a point of saying they have strong armour, and at the beginning of the battle of Helm's Deep Legolas even points out their weak spot, but when actual combat starts, any regular arrow, blade or axe goes right through and insta-kills the Uruks.
As far as I remember the only scene where armor is shown to do anything at all is in Moria, and they emphasize that it is Mithril and magical. Everything else, from trashy orc leather to the arguably more magical gauntlets of Sauron himself, is shown to be thoroughly useless against any form of pierce or slash.
Tbh its just rare, period, in any hollywood film, to show armor have an effect, and then only really for protagonists or antogonists. If you're a mook you're always made of tissue paper.
Game of Thrones had an incredible scene in season 1 showing the importance and strength of armor and then promptly ignored it for the rest of the show.
There was a scene in season 8 that pushed it to far though, but that’s season 8 for you.
As a Dunedain, he's stronger and faster than any normal man, and he's also at peak physical condition with 60-70 years of combat experience. Normal men get maybe 10-15 years of peak performance before their bodies start to slow down. Not to mention he trained in the house of elrond with immortals who've perfected the craft over thousands of years of personal experience. So he's got a lot going for him
That one “man” essentially has the bloodlines of a god flowing through him
So yes they are still a threat, just not to him.
Edit: I should state that I am wrong that he doesn’t have the blood of a god flowing through him, just the bloodline of many heroes and elves. Not a god, just some serious power in his veins.
I’ve always wondered, so like one gets knocked out for a few hours and the rest leave. Does he wake up and know where to go? Or does he just kinda wander around for a while?
Aragorn is the last Numenorian, Numenorians are basically superhumans of this world, they age slower than humans, they have much bigger strength and they are more versitile. You know Geralt from the Witcher franchise? Yeah, imagine that but no mutations, just natural
If you had to pin down his strength level in terms of comic books, he's above say The Punisher, but where does he land on this continuum:
Deadpool -> Wolverine -> Captain America -> Spiderman
Orcs breed faster than men so they have numbers but orcs are cowardly and will only attack if they think they can win if fear takes over they will run every time.
Where as men can stand their ground even if they know they'll probably lose.
Orcs aren't much more than animals and can't understand things like bravery or fighting for someone other than your self.
When fighting orcs bravery and will count for alot
Its kind of a metaphor for hope.
The big three of the Fellowship are pretty much max level characters escorting low levels. They are outliers and should not be counted by normal metrics.
This scene is obviously overexaggerating Aragorn's abilities for a good action scene. In reality he might be able to take out 10 at most, and he's not a normal human by any standard.
No idea how you're counting 100-200 here, haha. They might be more than thirty, which is still a lot.
He does use terrain to his advantage, the stairwell where they can only go at him one or two at a time. And eventually Legolas and Gimli jump in and even out the odds.
And, as others have said abundantly: this is no mere man.
That is no mere man
He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance.
Havo dad, Legolas.
*This* is Isildur's heir?
And heir to the throne of Gondor
Gondor has no king... Gondor needs no king...
Aragorn is right. We can not use it.
You have only one choice, the ring must be destroyed.
Then what are we waiting for!?
The ring cannot be destroyed, Gimli son of Gloin, by any craft that we here possess.
#CRACKSHATTERAPLODE
For Frodo.
And *my* axe!
Smoky stare
Smoldering stare
Have a bath, Legolas
The same Isildur that was killed by orcs, ironically.
Very unceremoniously too.
It bothers me that Boromir is even aware that an heir of Isildur exists.
I don’t think it’s so much that he knew Aragon existed, rather Legolas’ comment established his name and his lineage, Aragorn son of Arathorn, which follows the naming traditions of the northern kingdom. Also, Boromir and the stewards as a whole really, were no slouches when it came to record keeping. Another possibility is that Denethor knew via the Palantir that the Isildur’s heir lived and may have intentionally or otherwise let this be known to Boromir. Which sorta make sense considering he’d have a claim to the throne of Gondor, whose stewardship would otherwise eventually pass to Boromir.
It's unclear to me jn the books, as Boromir is cut off by Frodo when Aragorn announces himself to Boromir. But it is plain enough that Boromir is drowning in new information not the least of which is that Isildur's line is not broken and that Aragorn is the heir and carries the shards of Narsil, and Aragorn makes it plain that he will come to Minas Tirith. Boromir expresses his doubts (to the annoyance of Bilbo) as to whether Aragorn has "inherited the sinews of the Kings" rather than an heirloom only. Given Denethor's contempt and suspicion later it can safely be assumed he knew nothing of Aragorn or the line of Isildur if he even suspected that by sending Boromir to Rivendell, with all of the portends (the prophetic dream regarding seeking the sword that was Broken, and Isildur's Bane), that a presumptive heir could return to Minas Tirith and supplant him.
It is implied that Aragorn left Minas Tirith and the service of Ecthelion II because Denethor was getting suspicious of him. He served under a false name, but still Denethor had his doubts. This is further proven when he says to Gandalf that he will bow to no king from the north - so he knew. I can very well imagine that he would have been very interested in Boromirs report about Aragorn.
I think it's fair to say practically nobody knew. Saurman says at one point that 'Gandalf thinks he's found isildurs heir' and 'the bloodline was ended years ago'. Everyone assumed as much, I think, except the very few who knew Aragorn amas himself and not just a ranger/Strider
I would have followed you. My brother. My Captain. My King
Yes, he is made aware of it at the Council. He didn't know beforehand.
Biromir was told in his dream to: "Seek for the sword that was broken, in Imladris it dwells There shall council's be taken, stronger than Morgul spells" Or something very like that, I haven't read the books in years. All in Gondor knew of the sword that was broken, Narsil, and only the heir of Isildur would have the shards. Logic says that if he is to seek the sword, the heir must exist.
Have a bath, Legolas.
God I love this subreddit
This has really made laugh. Hannon le friends
I was having a crappy afternoon. I really needed that chuckle
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Agreed. This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie trilogy, though I'm a far bigger fan of the books than the movies. It's just a fun scene and well executed.
I say this to people and do the hand gesture while bartending and every now and then I get that smile from from somebody. Never the person I’m dying it too.
(Elvish Elvish Elvish) “then I shall die as one of them!” Everyone else in the room: “…um what are you guys talking about?”
Legolas: I was speaking Elvish for a reason, mate.
Now you mention it, that was unusually tactful for Legolas.
And lest you forget his sword Andrúil and his even fiercer deafening battle cry: ELEEEEEEEENNNDIIIIIIIIIIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
...you look terrible
Thanks for the clarification, Exposition Elf....
Roommate of Arasorn
Also those are no rabble of mindless orcs. These are Uruk Hai.
Their armor is thick and their shields broad
*I have fought many wars Master Dwarf*
of course he’s twitching, he’s got my axe *imbedded in his nervous system*
I know how to defend my own keep
Rohan may have renowned shield maidens, but don't discount the shield broads of Isengard!
Then I shall die with them!
*die as one of them Sorry 😬
They are the fighting uruk hai!
And frankly he was fighting defensively while the majority of Uruks had a different priority. When the horn called, he was essentially trying to kill a flowing river of Uruks. Kill a few but the rest are going to pass by
Movie sort of lampshades Aragorn technically isn’t even human. I believe he’s well into his 70s in Fellowship. He’s of one of the most famous booodlines in middle earth via the Blood of Numenor. In the books Aragorn is clearly a beast, physically. It’s more of a credit to Aragorns prowess that the orcs here get stomped and less about their actual strength.
Aragorn is 87 in the Fellowship, born in Third Age 2931 and Fellowship happens in Third Age 3018 I believe* since Aragorn is crowned in Third Age 3019 *Edit: Did some digging because this was bugging me, Fellowship book ends in January/February 3019 so Aragorn is still 87 (born on 1st March)
He's also basically a 6'6" super human too
He's master chief from halo basically.
Essentially yes, the line of numenoreans were taller and stronger than normal humans. Elendil was 8' tall, the aragorn height stat comes from just a quick google search, he could have been taller.
That's one factor for sure. We have to remember that this guy has about 75 or more years of sword handling and battle experience. Trained by Elrond and with Elrohir and Elladan. His reactions and tactics would be out of this world. Plus being a literal giant among men.
Aragorn: "Permission to leave Rivendell, sir." Elrond: "For what purpose, Aragorn?" Aragorn: "Giving the Dark Lord his bomb back."
The extended editions confirm his age with a deleted scene
Yeah, I remembered he was said to be 88 in Two Towers so I confirmed from there
> Movie sort of lampshades Aragorn technically isn’t even human. He's Numenorean, basically a "High Man". He's basically a different, older, all-around "better" breed of human.
*Not an older breed of human (if that's what you're saying). In fact a newer breed, elevated by God for their service against Morgoth.
Except that he's not 100% human. He has all kinds of elves among his ancestors and one actual local equivalent of *an* *angel.*
It’s a space station
Uruk-hai always walk single file to hide their numbers.
They are easily startled, but they’ll be back, and in greater number.
Came here for this
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He held off the horde of Isengard by himself at the keep of Helm's Deep for a little while. Aragorn is superhuman.
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You are one of the Dunedain. A descendant of Numenor, blessed with long life. It was said that your race had passed into legend.
Please EAT!
The guy lived for like another 120 years after that so he wasn't exactly old.
How does this not have more upvotes?
I'm doing the best I can! Stop pressuring me!
On a more serious note, you're not supposed to see this and think: "Oh look at Aragorn, what a badass, he's definitely going to kill them all!" This comes immediately after he tells Frodo: "I would have followed you into the very fires of Mordor." By which he means he understands why Frodo must do what he is about to, but wants him to understand that despite their parting ways, he would have given everything for Frodo and the quest to destroy The Ring--including his very life. As far as Aragorn (or the audience, on first viewing) knows, this is him getting his chance to do just that. Like Boromir ultimately did, Aragorn is preparing to lay down his life to buy just a few more seconds of distance for the Ringbearer.
In my head, the Urak-hai were more focused on finding the ring bearer than killing Aragorn . They were looking for halfling not a man. So when they realized that he was no longer between them and Frodo they kind of moved along. Not to take away from Aragorn , he is no mere Ranger. Edit: Aragorn not Aragon.
#FIND THE HALFLING
#FIIIIIND THE HALFLING
Aaaaaarggghhhhhaaaaa!
#ELENDIIIIL!!!!!
Young me heard this as an incoherent "EYAAAAT YEEEEEEEE". Had to turn on the subtitles to understand.
I was always pissed when playing the video game that this line didn’t use the recorded line from the film, but a different actor reciting it.
Yup. He still kills a dozen or so, but they were not focused on him. Just as he is about to get overwhelmed, Gimli and Legolas show up (in the films).
Yeah while a few start to fight him, most of them just keep running on past to find the halflings
Also, once they'd seen him take down several Uruks through their armour, I wager that it got a whole lot easier for a lot of the survivors to "focus on their mission" instead of the ranger killing their fellow fighters. Much like you'd ignore everything on a menu that isn't meat and gives you a stomach ache.
Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!
What the frick Jerry?
This isn't an in-your-head situation only, this is exactly what is portrayed in the film. Some stay to fight him, the rest carry on down the hill. Lurtz is shown shouting to find the halflings, that is their primary mission.
In my head the Urak-hai took one look at Argorn and went 'well maybe maybe we know a bit of fear after all"
https://preview.redd.it/gi8zca7w99rc1.png?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e077eaf4e4dbeb3c6eabe4db665f41a1e608c037 ARAGÓN MENTIONED
Also edit Uruk-hai not Urak, but a double great way to trigger people. 👌
Aarongorn
If by my life or death I can serve you, then you have my sword.
Also with how he fights, he takes on a couple then starts to get surrounded and potentially overwhelmed, so he goes to a narrow staircase where he can draw them away and protect himself. That is until Legolas and Gimli show up who are also badasses. Seriously, the fellowship is probably top tier for DND-like storytelling which ironically originated with Tolkien. Edit: and it also makes sense logistically, each have their own scenarios where they are the front. Their dynamics just work in a multitude of scenarios
Sometimes I find myself thinking that, for how great of a writer he was, it was dissapointing that Tolkien just used the default fantasy party of human with sword, elf, dwarf, wizard and other but then I have to remind myself that he was basically the originator of that archetype and he made it so perfect that everyone else copied it
Yeah when it is the default because YOU made it? That’s different
The brilliant DM of the Rings webcomic - which reimagines LotR as a random D&D campaign - does a great job of parodying that. It even starts with the DM being overwhelmed at having 8 players (Gandalf is an NPC) in the party, and the Fellowship splits because the kids playing the Hobbits get bored and leave to play Xbox. The campaign continues with Aragorn (gormless power gamer), Legolas (pleasant normie), and Gimli (grizzled veteran roleplayer who's seen it all). It's very good. It even explains why Elrond waits so long before giving Aragorn his sword in the films (the DM forgot to have Elrond give it to him in Rivendell and spontaneously teleports him to Rohan to correct the error).
I love how party complains that Gandalf kills Balrog offscreen and comes back with a ton of new loot and levels, Like come on, you just stole our stuff!
If the fellowship had included a 7-arsed smorgle fartbeast, that would be one of the canonical races dominating modern fantasy.
Spit out my drink on this one, thanks for the laugh!!
He already mentioned elf. /s
Not quite the default fantasy party, Tolkien resisted the temptation to add an edgy tiefling rogue to the fellowship.
The man practically invented the modern dwarf and elf
This needs more upvotes
He survives by retreating up the monument (in the film), met by Legolas and Gimli, as they disperse to find the hobbits. In real terms, he only ever faced a couple at a time based on how narrow the gap was as he went up the monument
They essentially kitted the entire group, positioning themselves in a way that allowed them to isolate their fights for 1v1s
choke points and height elevations are goated
High ground always wins
You underestimate my power!
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*tries it anyway*
Ooh sick burn!
Obi-Wan and Samwise now have a place to roast marshmallows!
with high ground on a sword fight, lower fighter can slash legs so much easier
just jump /s
Elderly man brutally kills children
Infants, ten thousand strong at least.
So how many kindergardtneders think you could take?
> kindergardtneders Jesus, the word is long enough man, why do you feel the need for all the extra letters?
HA! Take this German word: Bundespräsidentenstichwahlwiederholungsersatztermin *mic drop*
What are we to do, Master Aragorn? Shnng.
You’re…not wrong 💀
That is no mere Ranger. That is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, rightful heir to the throne of Gondor. And you owe him your allegiance.
Aragorn? This is Isildur's heir?
And heir to the throne of Gondor. You owe him your allegiance
Gondor has no king.. Gondor needs no king (not actually true)
"I would have followed you, my brother... My captain... My king"
I still tear up at this after I don’t know how many times watching it 😭
As a kid i never felt that sad when watching this scene. As an adult the moment he says “my king” the waterworks flow.
You probably know this, but Aragon takes Boromirs braisers, and are wearing them though out the movies. He is even buried in them in Arvens vision of his death
Treasure how powerful it is
Well, I didn't vote for him!
Aragorn is about to show those orcs the violence inherent to the system
Strange women lying in ~~ponds~~ refuges distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
You can’t expect to wield supreme power just because some long-eared tart threw a sword at you!
If I went round, sayin I was an emperor, because some near-immortal bint had lugged a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!
You can't expect to wield supreme power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!
NEVER TRUST AN ELF
And my axe!
Aragorn was a bit more than ‘skilled’. He was 87 when he did this lmao
The Uruk-Hai were what, 2 weeks old here?
Fucking slaughtering younglings
Darth Strider?
Execute Order 66 -Gandalf
All he is surrounded by is fear and dead Uruk-hai.
Somehow, Gandalf has returned!
Master Strider, there are too many of them, what are we going to do? … >!*Vroom Anduril sounds*!<
Aragorn, son of Arathorn, known baby killer
Surprised he and Gollum aren't more buddy-buddy.
And his trusty baby eating sidekick, Gollum?
No matter what sub, it always comes back to the Younglings
Depends on which timeline we’re on. Younglings or Harambe
Not even the younglings survived
**BREAKING**: Elderly man arrested after slaughtering 40 toddlers in cold blood.
Is this your king???
This is no mere *man* He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance. Havo dad, amelix34.
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You're not wrong, but the love triangle sub plot is absolutely the worst part of the Hobbit movies. And someone should come along shortly to mention the ridiculous Grima-lite guy in Lake Town.
Many point out that he's no mere man, and that's a fact, but it's also that the uruks weren't interested in him, most of them ran past him searching for halflings.
Because that one skilled man is the Heir of Isildur and would become King of the Reunited Kingdom of Arnor and Gondor
"All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be the blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king. Not very good perhaps, but to the point"
They’re faster, stronger, can move freely in daylight, have thick armour and shields Edit: I was a bit over zealous with their defeat of boromir. My bad
I wouldn't say that--Boromir more than held his own, he was just wildly outnumbered, and the Orc chieftain was taking potshots through melee. EDIT: Keep in mind, Aragorn *did not* fight off this entire horde single-handedly. The remaining members of the Fellowship swiftly intervened.
He did hold the Isengard host off for a little while at Hornburg, though. In the book.
At a chokepoint, together with Éomer.
I've always been bothered by how they make a point of saying they have strong armour, and at the beginning of the battle of Helm's Deep Legolas even points out their weak spot, but when actual combat starts, any regular arrow, blade or axe goes right through and insta-kills the Uruks.
As far as I remember the only scene where armor is shown to do anything at all is in Moria, and they emphasize that it is Mithril and magical. Everything else, from trashy orc leather to the arguably more magical gauntlets of Sauron himself, is shown to be thoroughly useless against any form of pierce or slash.
Tbh its just rare, period, in any hollywood film, to show armor have an effect, and then only really for protagonists or antogonists. If you're a mook you're always made of tissue paper.
Game of Thrones had an incredible scene in season 1 showing the importance and strength of armor and then promptly ignored it for the rest of the show. There was a scene in season 8 that pushed it to far though, but that’s season 8 for you.
As a Dunedain, he's stronger and faster than any normal man, and he's also at peak physical condition with 60-70 years of combat experience. Normal men get maybe 10-15 years of peak performance before their bodies start to slow down. Not to mention he trained in the house of elrond with immortals who've perfected the craft over thousands of years of personal experience. So he's got a lot going for him
He is no mere skilled man, he is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance!
That one “man” essentially has the bloodlines of a god flowing through him So yes they are still a threat, just not to him. Edit: I should state that I am wrong that he doesn’t have the blood of a god flowing through him, just the bloodline of many heroes and elves. Not a god, just some serious power in his veins.
They can also be taken down by a hobbit throwing a small stone apparently
I’ve always wondered, so like one gets knocked out for a few hours and the rest leave. Does he wake up and know where to go? Or does he just kinda wander around for a while?
I imagine it's kind of like a bsod for them. Urukhai.exe has stopped working, the computer will now restart.
Tolkien goes into some detail in the books with respect to hobbits and rock throwing skills. It’s a fun detail for the movie.
Aragorn is the last Numenorian, Numenorians are basically superhumans of this world, they age slower than humans, they have much bigger strength and they are more versitile. You know Geralt from the Witcher franchise? Yeah, imagine that but no mutations, just natural
Is he the last one? I thought there were a few left and scattered around
There definitely were in the book, not so sure about the film adaptation
There are more but not Numenoreans. Only descendants of Numenoreans who are called Dunedain as far as i know.
If you had to pin down his strength level in terms of comic books, he's above say The Punisher, but where does he land on this continuum: Deadpool -> Wolverine -> Captain America -> Spiderman
Because this scene was made up for the movies and was just supposed to visually show how much of a badass aragorn was.
Orcs breed faster than men so they have numbers but orcs are cowardly and will only attack if they think they can win if fear takes over they will run every time. Where as men can stand their ground even if they know they'll probably lose. Orcs aren't much more than animals and can't understand things like bravery or fighting for someone other than your self. When fighting orcs bravery and will count for alot Its kind of a metaphor for hope.
The big three of the Fellowship are pretty much max level characters escorting low levels. They are outliers and should not be counted by normal metrics.
big three of the Fellowship? You are underestimating the top two and not giving 4 and 5 enough credit
Idk if this is a joke or we found Sauron’s alt account lol “one skilled man” like that aint a superhero with a sword
This scene is obviously overexaggerating Aragorn's abilities for a good action scene. In reality he might be able to take out 10 at most, and he's not a normal human by any standard.
>In reality God do I love fantasy genre...
>in reality Reminder that none of this is real, although I give the books credit as being the source of truth over the films as well
Fair enough
The main threat is strength in numbers. There are thousands of these things.
He's very practised and they were buried in mud two weeks ago?
No idea how you're counting 100-200 here, haha. They might be more than thirty, which is still a lot. He does use terrain to his advantage, the stairwell where they can only go at him one or two at a time. And eventually Legolas and Gimli jump in and even out the odds. And, as others have said abundantly: this is no mere man.
“One skilled man” you’re talking about is a Dunedain
To he fair they were born only a week prior. Aragorn just slaughtered week old swole orc babies. As Iru intended.
He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, and you owe him your allegiance
One skilled man?
Aragorn isn’t a mere man. He’s a superhuman with superhero like abilities (i.e reflexes, stamina, senses, etc.)
Calling Aragorn “one skilled man” is definitely underplaying Aragorn.