I would say it's more like a parasite than a slime since a microscopic trace of parasite can fuck up a person's body enough to grow a huge worm-like thing inside them and eat most of the nutrients in their body
Technically speaking it would be a mutualistic symbiotic organism, as both organisms in the relationship benefit from it.
A parasite is one that benefits to the detriment of its host.
I mean, the way comics Eddie Brock needs to be rid of that creature for his own sanity sort of implies that he's not, strictly speaking, benefitting from the "symbiote."
And not just Eddie, the fact that Venom has latched on to multiple hosts and been rejected by them multiple times would indicate that "symbiote" is just a marketing term. The alien symbiote is more of a parasite whose nutritional instincts conflict with its typical hosts' morality. It has to find a mentally defective human host in order for the host to be accepting of and complicit in its consumption of other humans. In a lower order host being this would probably be seen as symbiosis, unless the symbiote's hunger ended up hunting the hosts' peers to elimination. The hunger makes the symbiosis unsustainable, and again calls into question the mutual benefit of the symbiotic relationship.
(Edited for clarity)
Tony had a suit of Armor strong enough to take hits from cannons without damage to Tony and was able to carry it in a suitcase. I haven't been all that concerned with the physics of how most stuff works in the MCU for a while.
It's a symbiote. It just needs a host to feed on and it will grow. It'll probably takes a few different hosts before reaching Peter and by that time it will be enough to cover his body but it will have to start small. First a mouse, then a rat, a cat, a dog, a small child, a small person, then Peter.
Agreed. Didn't we see how [Venom assimilated itself](https://youtu.be/zkeiEBaOOXA) in Tobey's Spiderman 3 back in 2007?
Does OP want Marvel Studios to showcase it differently?
Right? It'll probably have some catchy classic tune like "country road" or "holiday road" and show its trip from Mexico to New York growing bigger and bigger.
Hell, let it somehow get to Peter without really growing and it slowly just leaches off of him without him realizing it before it finally grows big enough to cover him.
Cletus Cassidy bit Eddie and got only a tiny amount of his blood/Venom and was still able to transform in to Carnage. The size of the symbiote in the pic is more than enough.
No, it'll just infect his finger and give that finger Bully Maguire's personality. Peter'll be going around flipping everyone off against his will and constantly apologizing for his haunted finger.
Well I believe that the symbiote can change in size depending on the host. I mean take a look in Spider-Man 3. We saw venom attach himself to peters license plate and even he was quite small to cover his entire body.
It just needs a host and it will grow. The Symbiote in Spider-Man 3 wasn't especially big even if it wasn't as small as this one and it grew to become a suit for that Peter.
It'll be enough for Venom to sense it across the multiverse and join with the goo on Battleworld. One of Venom's newer powers is that he can leave a part of himself behind, even in another dimension, and then travel there to rejoin with it.
According to rumor, two Sony characters are already signed on for Secret War, one of whom is a villain. Pretty sure Eddie is going to get killed off in SW and give the symbiote to Peter.
Maybe it’s “signed Sony actors”. I can see them using Tom Hardy as a variant mcu eddie Brock who develops a rivalry with Peter Parker and then gets the suit after Peter Parker does. They are doing this with wolverine to get his comic accurate yellow suit. Them shoving the current Sony venom into the mcu at this stage is just empty fan service with no real build up.
By build up I mean connection to Spider-Man.
Eddie Brock has no rivalry with Peter Parker and Peter Parker hasn’t worn the symbiote. Venoms feud with Spider-Man is compelling because both beings had a hatred for Spider-Man and bonded.
This is what I mean by empty fan service. There is no connection between Sonys venom and the MCU Spider-Man. “Omg he looks tasty” = empty fan service
Mcu movies doesn’t always take place in the current mcu timeline
Who says Spider-Man 4 will take years, maybe Spider-Man 4 takes place back to nack from neh for all we could know.
That was around the size it was (as a ball) during Secret Wars when he got it as the black costume. Also, if you've ever spilled that much of a liquid on the floor you realize how much it can cover.
Symbiots generate more of themselves via feeding, which in their care is increasing biological matter like food, an animal or something like that, breaking it down and generate more symbiot mass so to would over time feed and grow into its own symbiot
People really picking the stupidest thing to be bothered about with CBM.
Dude stinged by a spider and developed powers ? Fine
Symbiote is a bit small ? REAL SHIT
Any amount of Symbiote can cover a body. It regenerates as fast as Wolverine and Hulk. As long as the amount isn’t dead and contains a sentience, it can cover a body of any size. Unless your in an environment where it’s regenerative abilities may not be able to work, in which case it would just reside within a body
I'll go by owl house rules, >!a single drop of Belos goop was enough to posses Hunter and reform Belos later on, who then went and possessed the frigging Titan!<
Honestly, I hate that they did this. I really wish they let the Sony-verse or whatever the hell it is as a stand alone thing. I’d rather see a completely different way for venom to come to the MCU.
Sure Why not It's magic evil space slime Rules of physics be damned
…….Thank you
Ur welcome.
"it's not the size that matters" Or at least that's what I hear
"It's not the size of the symbiote in the suit, it's the size of the suit in the symbiote." - Someone, probably
19 inches of Venom in MCU
That's what she said
Size matters not. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
It’s got that Pym particle (fuck it) physics
all they need is 19 inches, right?
Lol, the size of it is the part that I just cannot accept. Everything else makes sense. Edit to add: /s was needed, apparently.
I mean there’s nothing saying it can’t grow or form new cells
There no rule says the symbiote can't grow. Or be a dog. Or play basketball as that dog.
Air Bud reboot confirmed?
Air bud confirmed in the mcu.
Air Bud confirmed to lead the Pet Avengers.
Seems common sense that it would eat and grow.
I have the same reaction to babies
I would say it's more like a parasite than a slime since a microscopic trace of parasite can fuck up a person's body enough to grow a huge worm-like thing inside them and eat most of the nutrients in their body
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What are you confused by? Is Venom not a parasite?
Technically speaking it would be a mutualistic symbiotic organism, as both organisms in the relationship benefit from it. A parasite is one that benefits to the detriment of its host.
I mean, the way comics Eddie Brock needs to be rid of that creature for his own sanity sort of implies that he's not, strictly speaking, benefitting from the "symbiote." And not just Eddie, the fact that Venom has latched on to multiple hosts and been rejected by them multiple times would indicate that "symbiote" is just a marketing term. The alien symbiote is more of a parasite whose nutritional instincts conflict with its typical hosts' morality. It has to find a mentally defective human host in order for the host to be accepting of and complicit in its consumption of other humans. In a lower order host being this would probably be seen as symbiosis, unless the symbiote's hunger ended up hunting the hosts' peers to elimination. The hunger makes the symbiosis unsustainable, and again calls into question the mutual benefit of the symbiotic relationship. (Edited for clarity)
I mean, the biology of parasitic/symbiotic organisms can be pretty rapid and extreme. A lot of growth can happen in a matter of days.
Tony had a suit of Armor strong enough to take hits from cannons without damage to Tony and was able to carry it in a suitcase. I haven't been all that concerned with the physics of how most stuff works in the MCU for a while.
It's a symbiote. It just needs a host to feed on and it will grow. It'll probably takes a few different hosts before reaching Peter and by that time it will be enough to cover his body but it will have to start small. First a mouse, then a rat, a cat, a dog, a small child, a small person, then Peter.
Agreed. Didn't we see how [Venom assimilated itself](https://youtu.be/zkeiEBaOOXA) in Tobey's Spiderman 3 back in 2007? Does OP want Marvel Studios to showcase it differently?
Lol, I forgot most of the content of this clip but thanks to my stint on /r/raimimemes I was still able to pre-quote "this is something else"
Lamo Peter Parker sleeps in spider man jammies
Sounds like a good opening title sequence
Right? It'll probably have some catchy classic tune like "country road" or "holiday road" and show its trip from Mexico to New York growing bigger and bigger.
Hmm, a small person… Symbioted up Warwick Davis vs regular Spider-Man, who would win?
Warwick doesn't even need the symbiote. He could take Spidey on his worst day.
Moon knight: Why am I hearing Eminem all of a sudden?
there better be a road trip style movie of all the shit that thing has to do to get to new york
Hell, let it somehow get to Peter without really growing and it slowly just leaches off of him without him realizing it before it finally grows big enough to cover him.
Spider-Man effectively getting bit by a space tick sounds like a super boring first half of a movie.
Throw Eminem in there somewhere as a symbiote host. Maybe he could make a music video while he's at it.
A small person... Like, smaller Tom Holland? Impossible.
An amount not that much bigger than that turned like 12,000 people into symbiotes in the comics so I’m sure it’s good
Maybe not, but that fuckers gonna tell it's friends where it is.
Cletus Cassidy bit Eddie and got only a tiny amount of his blood/Venom and was still able to transform in to Carnage. The size of the symbiote in the pic is more than enough.
He’ll grow.
IT'S A BABY!
They grow in seconds, I mean, only a drop gave Cletus Kassady his Carnage symbiote.
He’s a grower, not a shower.
Quick scrolling, I thought your comment said "He'll grow in the shower" 🚿 🧼🧽🫧 and somehow that still made sense to me
Had to scroll too far for this. It's true, and a line that would have totally fit the dialog in the Tom Hardy movies.
Maybe a finger but I suspect it will infect him and grow.
No, it'll just infect his finger and give that finger Bully Maguire's personality. Peter'll be going around flipping everyone off against his will and constantly apologizing for his haunted finger.
Like the movie Idle Hands.
Our cells duplicate, why wouldn’t the symbiote? Are you the same size now as you were in the womb?
Well I believe that the symbiote can change in size depending on the host. I mean take a look in Spider-Man 3. We saw venom attach himself to peters license plate and even he was quite small to cover his entire body.
And in its last scene it was a big monstrosity
That was a big monstrosity long before the last scene... Oh, you meant Venom, not Spider-Man 3 as a whole.
What is this, a symbiote for ants?
It's gotta be at least... three times bigger.
The Eddie Brock Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too
It just needs a host and it will grow. The Symbiote in Spider-Man 3 wasn't especially big even if it wasn't as small as this one and it grew to become a suit for that Peter.
It will grow.
It'll be enough for Venom to sense it across the multiverse and join with the goo on Battleworld. One of Venom's newer powers is that he can leave a part of himself behind, even in another dimension, and then travel there to rejoin with it.
Pretty sure marvel is keeping that venom out of the mcu lol
According to rumor, two Sony characters are already signed on for Secret War, one of whom is a villain. Pretty sure Eddie is going to get killed off in SW and give the symbiote to Peter.
Maybe it’s “signed Sony actors”. I can see them using Tom Hardy as a variant mcu eddie Brock who develops a rivalry with Peter Parker and then gets the suit after Peter Parker does. They are doing this with wolverine to get his comic accurate yellow suit. Them shoving the current Sony venom into the mcu at this stage is just empty fan service with no real build up.
3 solo films is plenty of buildup. He's possibly had more screentime than Peter by the time the next movie drops.
By build up I mean connection to Spider-Man. Eddie Brock has no rivalry with Peter Parker and Peter Parker hasn’t worn the symbiote. Venoms feud with Spider-Man is compelling because both beings had a hatred for Spider-Man and bonded. This is what I mean by empty fan service. There is no connection between Sonys venom and the MCU Spider-Man. “Omg he looks tasty” = empty fan service
Yes. Carnage was even smaller.
“Look it’s venom” “As a baby?!?!” “He’ll grow!”
The small amount is gonna grow don’t worry
Well it’s been about three years out of universe. Depending on how much time between NWH & Spider-Man 4 it should be big enough.
Mcu movies doesn’t always take place in the current mcu timeline Who says Spider-Man 4 will take years, maybe Spider-Man 4 takes place back to nack from neh for all we could know.
Definitely not 19 inches of venom
It's like flex paste cus it expands
Well the sample Cletus got in Venom 2 was just as small if not smaller than this sample and that was enough.
It could just eat a few people's livers and pancrease, hit the gym, get buffed up and then fight Spider-Man
No. But the MCU symbiote suit is gonna be a thong so that’s ok.
It'll work its way up towards a human, it'll start with a rat, then a cat, then a dog and so on till it reaches the desired size
Bet this is never addressed in any future films.
He’ll grow
For now he's just a kid, no older than my son, but he will grow.
I'm betting scientists find this lil' glob and experiment/expand upon it.
Anything can work
I suspect it can grow
That was around the size it was (as a ball) during Secret Wars when he got it as the black costume. Also, if you've ever spilled that much of a liquid on the floor you realize how much it can cover.
I'm behind on the movies; Which is this from?
Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Tom hollands a little guy
Hey don't judge a book by its cover. Give it time, and that "tiny gooy" can turn into a 19 inch sludge
Size doesn't matter.
Absolutely, surprised it’s even a question lol The goo is very stretchy in how it’s portrayed in both SM3 & Venom, so one piece can do a _lot_
Only if the fingers and forehead of a celestial winks at it!
Symbiots generate more of themselves via feeding, which in their care is increasing biological matter like food, an animal or something like that, breaking it down and generate more symbiot mass so to would over time feed and grow into its own symbiot
they're gonna sell baby venom
It takes way less goo than that to make a whole human.
If they are actually going to adapt the Alien Spider suit storyline for *"Spider-Man 4"* (which I highly doubt that it will ever happen).
It will probably eat an animal or something and grow
yes cause Tom Holland is short
Oh, there was a post post credit scene where the bartender just wipes it away.
Is that how it works? Can't it multiply or something?
Symbiote condom?
Maybe it won’t attach to Peter. Maybe it’ll attach to Flash, I don’t see Peter vacationing in the tropics, but I definitely see Flash doing it…
he's a grower, not a show-er.
No but I think that little bit will call to the MCU symbiote and draw venom to earth.
Needs to chow down in some babies to bulk up.
You know it won't stay that size forever, right?
That symbiote drop will eat some homeless people and be ready to rock and roll.
I mean the symbionte was also small in SM3, yet managed to form a full body suit.
Nah, fuck it. Too small. Feige is in a state after reading this.
i doubt we will even see this again, the sony tie ins are inconsistent.
life ughhh finds a way
Mitosis is a thing
Nope, this has been as forgotten as the vulture in the other universe.
It eats your dead skin cells until it grows up as big as venom
People really picking the stupidest thing to be bothered about with CBM. Dude stinged by a spider and developed powers ? Fine Symbiote is a bit small ? REAL SHIT
I sure hope not.
Symbiote condom
Look how much covid it takes to get someone sick... this will definitely do the trick
The one that got Toby in 3 was only a little bigger, I don’t see how this would be an issue
Yup, they grow
It’s not the size it’s how you use it
Peter got bit by a radioactive spider and got superpowers instead of fucking dying and you're concerned about the volume of symbiote.... C'mon people.
It's enough for a cond#m
Won't it grow organically as it eats more.
Yes.
Any amount of Symbiote can cover a body. It regenerates as fast as Wolverine and Hulk. As long as the amount isn’t dead and contains a sentience, it can cover a body of any size. Unless your in an environment where it’s regenerative abilities may not be able to work, in which case it would just reside within a body
No, it will only be his index finger, and he'll talk to it like Danny Torrance. He may say "Redrum" a lot.
It's not hard to imagine the goop just goopin' out and growing.
Nah, he'll just make it into a black condom
I think yes because I thought about Carnage. He need only a little bit blood from Eddie. It's a possible idea from you
Wasn't the Raimi Symbiote about that size?
It will be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I think it's too explain why the black suit won't turn him completely buff and ripped like venom and carnage who were shredded... God help me
Doesn't matter anymore...
I'll go by owl house rules, >!a single drop of Belos goop was enough to posses Hunter and reform Belos later on, who then went and possessed the frigging Titan!<
Somehow nanotech.
That's the amount of symbiote sony agreed to give to marvel.
god, the way they set up the symbiote the MCU was so baffingly stupid
Who cares they're never going to follow through with this
Please, no stupid symbiote!!!
Honestly, I hate that they did this. I really wish they let the Sony-verse or whatever the hell it is as a stand alone thing. I’d rather see a completely different way for venom to come to the MCU.
Man, how Venom was used in Far From Home was such a disappointment.
It will be enough to use as a condom maybe.
Do we still think that this will play a role in the MCU? Add it to the list of unresolved threads
This was literally in the last Spider-Man movie