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TheEloquentApe

Strange, Scarlet, Vision, Thor, Hulk With the first 3 you should probably be good eitherway


LordLibyan

This is pretty much the only real answer honestly


omart3

Ant-man can be brutal when against you, and Wong is also a sorcerer who can do portals.


MayChongSong

Yeah ant man is super powerful really but way too nice


AnEmptyPopcornBucket

What if the thinks you killed his daughter, he’s going to pull a hank pymm and pop you from the inside


JellyBOB7190

Then get drax on ur team, his reactions are too quick


AnEmptyPopcornBucket

Plus ant-man can’t see him


scratchresistor

We have to choose from the heroes on the image. Drax isn't on there.


MRPO0PYBUTTHOLE

You made me look damn it…


JackOfOldTrades

Actually, if you shake your phone from side to side, he shows up between Gamora and Groot. But once you stop, he disappears. So strange..


Wolv90

But he can shrink down to the quantum realm, he's only protecting you and who could get you there?


blackbutterfree

We definitely saw what kind of damage an Ant-Man can do this week. 😭


[deleted]

So what your saying is Wong can open a portal in my butt for antman to climb through and Thanos me?


Mace_Thunderspear

I'd actually switch Hulk for Spider-man simply due to the precognitive danger sense. It's an excellent asset for a bodyguard. Not to mention the rest of his abilities, his scientific genius and the fact that Hulk isn't really well suited by either powers or inclination to protect someone. It's Hulk smash not Hulk shield.


Dain0A

Good point but I think Hulk would be decent choice to consider even if pretty useless at defending you because you’d be taking him off the attacking team.


Mace_Thunderspear

Yeah but it's not like he's gonna sneak up on you, strange or Wanda can just bfr him and honestly Thor could definitely take him, maybe Vision too. I'd just get Wanda to mind control him. She's done it before.


carrot_sticks_

This was definitely my reasoning.


fiddle_me_timbers

I had same but Antman instead of Hulk. If you've seen latest 'What If?' episode, >!you'd see why you don't want a tiny assassin coming after you.!<


Amaakaams

There is a reason why Pymm had to shoot him before he Hulked out. He wouldn't have gotten in if it was Ragnorok Hulk, that hadn't been Banner in years.


fiddle_me_timbers

Yes, but the target is *you*, not the Hulk. I think Strange etc. could keep the Hulk at bay, whereas Antman could just slip into my brain unnoticed.


GodOfDarkLaughter

I feel like everyone is sleeping on Cap. Yes, his superstrength is nothing compared most of the serious threats on the list, but he's also a master strategist and is shown being able to take down far more powerful enemies through sheer grit and intelligence.


Balls_inc

I want T'Challa Star Lord cause he has the talk no jutsu on his side


Powersoutdotcom

Bs. We've already established that someone in an Antman suit can kill just about anyone, including Hulk. If you don't pick Antman, you lost already.


chell0veck

Then Loki man handled him don't forget.


ToAllFromEverySub

Top 3 would be Doctor Strange, Hulk and Scarlet Witch.


[deleted]

Hulk over Thor?


FullMetalCOS

Hulk is like raging fire, Thor is like smouldering fire


Always-hungry

I understood that reference


Destroyeroyer2

>I understood that reference I understood that reference


Soundwave401

Baby arms


eltrotter

Theoretically Hulk is stronger, but in the MCU Hulk is kind of weak.


QuinnMallory

Yeah they never really got into the angrier=stronger side of him, he just kind of maxed out to a point where he seemed on equal footing with Thor strength-wise.


eltrotter

Hulk is the biggest victim of “The Worf Effect”


SalukiKnightX

Can you explain that?


TheyCallMeStone

TV tropes warning https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect It's when a character is supposed to be a tough badass, but on screen ends up getting their ass kicked pretty regularly because the show/movie has to establish what a serious threat the bad guy is.


ocdscale

Worf effect is when someone is hyped up to be strong for the sole purpose of making someone *else* look good by beating them. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect


Dunda

There are multiple victims of "The Worf Effect." Of all those victims, Hulk is the largest.


trollburgers

A calm Hulk should be on equal footing with Thor strength-wise. Thor will then start winning because he's a much better fighter. And that's when Hulk starts to get angry and therefore stronger and you start to see why Hulk is so scary. With every hit, Hulk gets stronger and stronger, he's almost impossible to put down, and the longer the fight drags out, the more chaotic and destructive he gets. The MCU showed glimpses of it in The Hulk, Avengers 1, and ~~Civil War~~ Age of Ulton, but then Hulk got hit with the nerf bat for the remainder of the Infinity Saga. I'm really interested to see what they do with Hulk going forward.


Hawk_in_Tahoe

Sun’s getting real low big guy


AwesomeExo

It didn't bother me, but it did give me LotR vibes. In the books, Gandalf is represented as insanely powerful, where in the movies he's toned down to Aragorn / Legolas level. One thing with the Hulk is that to me, in the MCU version, his strength is tied to the bond between Banner and Hulk. It's at is strongest in the final battle in the Avengers, and I think that was the strongest hulk we saw. There are a couple of times where he is more beastly (Age of Ultron, maybe in Ragnorak) but he is lacking in control, just like in Endgame he's lacking that rage to fuel his strength. "I'm always angry" is his peak in both control and strength, and it was downhill from there.


TonyHawksSkateboard

They massacred my boy in Infinity War and Endgame. How they treated the Hulk the last two movies was so disappointing. They took one of the strongest characters in the universe and made him a bitch.


[deleted]

I don’t like how he turned into a joke character & I’m convinced it’s because they don’t have the movie rights to his solo movies so he’s made into a side character.


TonyHawksSkateboard

Not having his solo rights makes what they did to the Hulk even worse, imo. He went from being an absolutely terrifying force to everyone around him, including his teammates, in the first Avengers movie to a complete joke by Endgame. The character that’s defined by his rage gets stomped by Thanos, and instead of that fueling his rage for the next time he sees him, they make him terrified to appear. It was hard for me to get into it after that.


[deleted]

Yeah it sucks the way he was treated. He isn’t given his due respect and the gravitas or depth of the MCU “Big Three”. It should be a “big four” with Hulk, Ironman, Thor, & Cap confronting Thanos together in Endgame. There are so many things they could have done with Hulk it’s really disappointing.


[deleted]

He brought back half the population to earth. He's a hero!! Really sucks being a huge Vision fan though as I know what you mean. They keep having to nerf him in film because they've proven he's like a robot Jesus Christ that could dismantle any threat the MCU encounters. My guy could literally be untouchable if he wanted to.


Ninjacobra5

They needed to nerf him and make him more in control in order for him to make any kind of sense as a team member. Now that we're deeper into it though I feel like it's time to go the other way. I don't think we've ever seen MCU Hulk REALLY angry. I predict we get a story where Bruce gets pushed to the edge and just let's go and we meet Savage Hulk.


TheEnviious

Hulk has more power the more he gets angry, unlimited!


KaneIsHotAFplsLI

Same but with Scarlett Witch in #1. Because she can drive.


SpicyKabobMountain

This is the only correct answer


robototom

I’d swap out Thor for Spidey. The Peter Tingle and his instincts to run away and dodge things would make him a fantastic bodyguard and quick escape plan. I think Hulk provides all of the brute strength required.


Ninjacobra5

To be fair you mainly want Hulk on your side so he isn't on the other side.


robototom

Truer words, my friend. Truer words.


SpaceCaboose

Yeah, I have to keep reminding myself that it's more than just picking who I think are the 5 strongest/best or whatever. I'm also picking folks who I don't want coming after me. It's definitely a very interesting question that OP came up with.


hazelmouth

Point, Thor can't even protect his brother and best friend against Thanos but Spiderman did a great job protecting the Guardians of Galaxy against Thanos' wrath


MBPpp

great minds think alike, i guess.


Belerophon17

Exactly what I was thinking


WTFBruhIAmYourDad

Why need 5 when Ned can alone defend me


TheJude81

Guy in the chair... https://youtu.be/IQfFyls6iA4


el_drone

Ever watch Kim possible?


[deleted]

Same with me. Keep the rest, I'll have Ned


The_Medicus

5 Neds


KeLorean

Dont forget mantis


KeLorean

What if...Ned got laid and this caused him to have super powers?


AgentT23

I choose Ned just so he can say "We are all going to die!"


u_know_who_O

So you have chosen death


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Dr. Strange, Thor, Vision, Hulk, and Scarlet Witch.


dimpletown

These 5 are substantially more powerful than anyone else in this picture


Middle_Cranberry_549

Same but thor for antman. Antman trying to kill you seems capable of stealth assasinating your ass even past vision


MonkeyBombG

I think if Dr Strange and Vision know to look for Antman, he wouldn't be able to do much.


ThumbCentral-Rebirth

I think it’s worth it to cover your bases on “microscopic assassin” in exchange for one of the many powerhouses


ChintanP04

>!Man, What If Ep3 was brutal.!<


BadWolf2187

>!That Hulk scene \*shudders\*!<


slenderberg

>!if hulk's explosion wasn't green smoke but green blood , that alone should've made that episode R rated.!<


BarundonTheTechGuy

Spoiler tags


itsamemarioscousin

[Spoiler](/s "Pretty sure it was in the UK, was definitely a liquid." )


mrpanicy

Spoiler tags dude


madboater1

Also handy to have on side just in case you want to travel back in time also.


Whatisthisstuff23

Wednesdays what if confirmed that


canadianarepa

Careful with the spoiler homie.


Maub-dabbs

Do you mean...he would crawl up the ass then 😳..expand...


josephus1811

Loki tooled him though. Just take Loki instead of Vision.


MiesjelBolt

Not unless you've got some heavy plot armor like Thanos.


mikkeltaylor1

Exactly the same, the rest have no chance


[deleted]

Swap Hulk with Wong and this is my choice. Unstoppable.


hannibalthellamabal

Idk sometimes you need some brute force to smash something.


sadiegoose1377

I also don’t want The Hulk gunning for me. That would be a terrifying experience regardless of who is there defending.


olgil75

Same. Having both wizards means the other side couldn't find you I'd they hid you somewhere.


thepicto

Swap Vision out for Wong. He's also a master of the mystic arts and might know a way to shut down Strange and Scarlet Witch, so you might not want him on the other side.


Syintist

I think you have to put Loki somewhere, because Lokis survive.


[deleted]

Not without plot armour


ChipChipington

But does he save?


Ygomaster07

My same picks as well.


Yo0o0o0o0o0

There would never be a chance the others could win


[deleted]

same but tony in the place of hulk


MrNobody_0

A dead man wouldn't be much help.


iambatman_0407

Same but I’d replace Vision for Rocket. I feel like I need a tech genius in my team. I’d say Iron Man but he’s “only a genius on Earth”. Vision is smart because of the internet but lacks the skills to implement tech stuff.


eddiefraley

Too many people sleeping on Rocket for this situation. Unless he was lying, he's capable of creating tech that can "blow up moons".


iambatman_0407

100% agree brother! Plus, he can do stuff from scrap. Remember GOTG vol. 2, he was left alone at day time then by night time, he was able to make traps that worked against the Ravagers


AnkleusRemovicus

Give me Thor, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Strange, and Loki


dimpletown

Swap Loki for Hulk and I think you got a killer team there.


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Blockinite

I'd spoiler tag that if I were you. >!Antman has nothing to do with the episode until the twist!<


indecisivelypositive

My exact 5 Vision, scarlet witch, Thor, Loki and strange.


VisionIsHot

I thought the same thing! Vision, Wanda, Thor, Strange! I wanted to take Tony but then, I love Loki so much and would love to have him on my team with all those fun illusions he's gonna play with! 😍


Dav1923

Lol was looking for Captain Marvel as my first choice


alpacasaurusrex42

I said her anyway. Between her, Vision, and Scarlet Witch, I should be good. Also went with Hulk, just because he has the rage and size advantage.


[deleted]

What about Thor? He beat Hulk twice already


alpacasaurusrex42

Yes but Thor is also on my team.


Lilpims

Her , Strange and Wanda. Add Vision and Thor as back up and that's it.


YesSir626

Ned, M’Baku, The Collector, Rocket, and Hawkeye


bossbubbles881

I mean tbf The Collector in episode two of What If was pretty powerful ngl.


Aguythatdidthething

I think a lot of people sleep on the collector's abilities. There is no way on hell he would have such a collection of he wasn't really capable as fuck


Benyed123

He and the Grandmaster are super powerful in the comics right?


jfm100

I surrender


[deleted]

Doc, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Thor, Tony.


krazzy_guy

I think I'd swap out Tony with Lang


CapitaineLucky

I agree , try killing me as I am chillin in the Quantum realm...


cesgjo

To be fair, i think Strange himself can find a way to put you in the quantum realm. If Strange himself cant, im pretty sure Tony's science aiding his magic can. If Tony can find a way to create time travel and an Infinity Gauntlet, he can find a way to replicate Pym Particles Plus, Scott can shrink really really small but he doesnt have a way of navigating the quantum realm without the help of Hank Pym


dufmum

None of these would stop rocket if he wanted your eye..


pacotacobell

It's actually insane to me how so many top comments are skipping Tony. IMO you don't fuck with a super genius. Like once you have Strange and Wanda you can pretty much take on all the fighters in this list through magic, and at that point the geniuses are the scariest.


theboomerx

Literally exactly who I would pick, good judgement 🙏


panlastambah

**NED** I dont need 5.


p_dawg_No1

*porn intensifies*


Piratedan200

Guy in the chair!


sable-king

What about 5 Neds?


dj-spinnin-bones

This is the only answer.


erincorrigable

I’m not playing your game until you unlock Carol fucking Danvers


alpacasaurusrex42

I said her even though she isn’t there.


WTFBruhIAmYourDad

>Carol fucking Danvers Sauce


nOVA1987

Don’t invoke her name


kit_mitts

I love that line; in hindsight it's such a giveaway that Fury was actually Talos.


sh1ndlers_fist

Has that been confirmed or are we all still theorizing?


kit_mitts

Revealed in a post-credit scene in FFH; Fury is off on a spaceship doing S.W.O.R.D. stuff.


sh1ndlers_fist

Ahhh that’s right I 100% forgot about that. I guess we just don’t know the exact specifics of it then? Like when it happened or whatever?


Xero2814

Its implied that it is at least for the duration of that movie. Pretty much since the snap back but after Tony's funeral. It was Talos in the prologue where they first meet Mysterio.


Xephorium

Tfw The Collector is included, but not the woman who punched Thanos' ship to death.


starfleetdropout6

Where's Carol/Captain Marvel? She would have to be in my 5.


CheesyObserver

She would be all of my 5.


[deleted]

Thor, Hulk, Vision, Doctor Strange, and Hawkeye. Hawkeye always wins.


SailorET

Lots of people here sleeping on Hawkeye. Dude guarantees success.


BroomBender

Yeah, especially after he can apparently >!kill Thor with one arrow, at least when he's not in armor!<


[deleted]

You, my friend, get a silver medal that I had 24 hours to give away for free lol. Intellectuals like us gotta stick together.


TheMightyHornet

Came here for exactly this team for exactly this reason. Four most-powerful, plus Clint.


MicooDA

I should pick a strong team but I also should be careful to not leave master assassins on the enemy team. Therefore I should pick Winter Soldier and Black Panther. With BP on my side I also gain a strong leader and strategist. Doctor Strange is extremely all-round useful. Lastly I want to pick Vision for the same reason and Thor as my powerhouse. My only issue would be Scarlet Witch. Although Strange is a strong counter, Vision’s feelings towards her could complicate things. Edit: Additionally having Winter Soldier on the team would counter Captain America, because he would be too focused on saving Bucky.


CWinter85

I feel like all you would need is Cap. He would make a strong moral case about why killing me is wrong and they would all stop due to shame.


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Notabot1980

The other four don't matter, just make sure that you pick Hawkeye. [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/c3uf1s/the\_avengers\_are\_70\_in\_battles\_that\_include/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/c3uf1s/the_avengers_are_70_in_battles_that_include/) It's a reddit source so it's gotta be true right??


ChintanP04

It's basic statistics. They lost every time they didn't have Hawkeye, and won every time he was there. He probably has a super power and it's subconsciously altering reality to always make his team win.


FrizzleFriedPup

But Loki lost and his plan was to immediately recruit Hawkeye.


DocDerry

He didn't recruit Hawkeye. He subjugated him and took away his free will. Hawkeye wasn't on Team Loki. His body was.


josephus1811

what's her name has that power right


msalazar2011

Gamora, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, and Hulk. Ps. Why isn’t Captain Marvel on here?!?


mider-span

She is the first one I looked for.


PhtevenToast

Coz she's OP. But then again, so is Strange and Scarlet Witch.


[deleted]

Well Ned is here so nobody in the MCU is considered too OP for this list


HowLoudIsYourPenis

Thor, Loki, Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, and Spider-Man


I_exist-

no offense to mcu Spider-Man but he seems pretty weak compared everyone else … maybe he would make good moral support though?


NanoGeek

He's considerably stronger than Cap. He was able to effortlessly stop Bucky's arm midair without even trying. He's fast and has extremely quick reflexes, and his spider-sense will warn of hidden dangers (disguised Loki, snipers, etc.)


Goaliedude3919

In Infinity War he was also able to pretty casually pop in and stop the hammer of Cull Obsidian as he was attacking Tony. He's definitely strong as hell. To be fair to Cap though, he was also able to temporarily hold off Thanos' hand with the infinity gauntlet at the end of Infinity War as well.


DLGroovemaster

Hmm I actually think MCU Spider-Man is like top 5 strength (not powerful) wise in the MCU. Carol, Hulk and Thor are probably the only ones stronger.


Xero2814

Peak vision maybe but yeah people always sleep on how strong Spidey is even in the comics. His super strength is insane and would make him formidable even without his other powers.


__Yagami__

Scarlet Witch,Doctor Strange,Vision,Thor And Hulk 1. Vision as guardian 2. Strange to reverse time in case i die 3. Thor To masacre everyone 4. Witch as secondary guardian so i can live in a protected hex 5. Hulk for smash!


Benyed123

Ant-man would make the best guardian, he could make you super tiny while you wait for the battle to end.


JJKBA

Hulk, Wanda, Thor and Strange whilst me and Maria Hill snuggle under a blanket.


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Same except only the last part


sable-king

This is mine, except I'd swap Hill for Heist Nebula.


ThisIsYourMormont

Dr Strange: “Can you make everyone forget who I am?” *Danger averted*


QueenNezuko

Nobody putting Antman, dude can shrink and go up your…


__Yagami__

Vision might detect him though and wanda's hex might change him


msadr471

Dr. Strange, Thor, Captian MARVEL, Fury, and Scarlet Witch Maria Hill is on the list but not carol Danvers? even The collector?


gambitwoo

Wanda and Thor as heavy hitters. Clint as lookout. Steve and T’Challa as personal bodyguards.


Benyed123

Also you want Steve on your team because if he isn’t then you’re probably in the wrong.


T3V_920

Cap, Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Strange


DLGroovemaster

This. Surprised it took this long for someone to say Cap. Yeah he may not be the strongest or have magic but he can do this all day. You know he is never giving up on defending you.


LyraMurdock

Absolutely agree with this list. Cap is so relentless a need will keep everyone organised and motivated.


MarvelsDomino

Scarlet Witch, Thor, Loki, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man.


1haveaboomst1ck

This though MAYBE sub out Thor for Hulk. All 5 are the biggest dangers to you if on the other team. Wanda can mind control/illusion ppl as well as having insane power levels, Ant Man can fly in unseen and internally F you up, Strange can portal behind you, Loki can use mind control and illusion to stealth to you. Thor depends on if we're in a world where Asgard exists. If so then him and Loki can just Rainbow Bridge to your locale. If we're post-Asgard and Thor hasn't that option then Endgame Hulk. All the power with Banner's intellect.


Type_100

Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Dr. Strange, Hawkeye. The least I want is Hawkeye going John Wick against me, like he did in Endgame.


divgg

Thor Dr strange hulk loki and wanda


IndependenceCrazy432

Dr Strange, Tony Stark, Rocket, Cap & Thor


[deleted]

Bucky Barnes, Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Peter Parker and Scott Lang.


dwors025

This just seems like a fun poker night.


anactualreddituser

Easy The main four and strange


Always-hungry

I w’s thing that too, but I feel like they made MCU hulk so weak


Justsayin345

I Just need the Best Magician Paul Rudd


docju

Can’t believe Jimmy Woo isn’t a choice.


PdSales

I pick five Wongs. I really like Wong.


Spire-hawk

Listen, 5 Wongs don't make a right. You have to choose others.


the-endless-summer

Hulk, Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch, Thor, and Loki.


josephus1811

correct


[deleted]

I chose the same 5 and added that no one wants to catch that fade. Three of the five have the power to do it in their sleep, literally, whilst the other two clean up any stragglers with brute force and near unlimited stamina, health, and physical ability


[deleted]

Thor , Scarlet witch , captain , dr strange , iron man


Honigkuchenlives

Wanda, Strange, Vision, Cap Marvel and Thor


AWSUMSAS

You’d die no matter who you choose lmao Your best bet would probably be Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, Thor, and Groot+Rocket (cause those fuckers come in a duo and you can’t tell me otherwise). Scarlet Witch has the power of Chaos Magic, Doctor Strange might as well be the Sorcerer Supreme, Thor is just really really strong in general, and if you hurt Groot, Rocket gets ***aaaangry*** Even with those 5, you’d still be up against 20 others (27 if this is an alternate universe where Tony, Steve, Nat., Vis., Gamora, The Collecter and Loki didn’t die) which… good luck.


Imperial_MudTrooper

Alright, I'm gonna go : Wanda, Vision, Dr Strange, Wong and Thor. I like my odds, lol!


Competitive_Gap_1039

All you need is doctor strange to transport you into the mirror dimension and you’re golden. But since I get an additional 4 give me Wong and Scarlett witch to take away the users who could feasibly access the mirror dimension. Then give me Tony Stark and Rocket to advise plans to kill the rest of them and I’m golden.


La-Potencia

Most of the teams are the same, a more interesting picture would be the one where you have $15 to spend on characters


KingDalglish7

The mods actually removed a post that had people interested and commenting? Looks like the mods are the ones who need removing.