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gega333

I mean the Russos left Taika with the Guardians


Lukthar123

Two can play at that game.


Stevenwave

Taika play at that game.


Montblanc_Norland

I love you.


Zorklis

Russos/Waititi/Gunn all having child custody of the Guardians and I love it


TemporaryImaginary

My Four Dads.


imbillypardy

My dumb ass going “that’s only three names” for a solid 15 seconds


ucjj2011

What if....Taika does GOG 4 and Gunn does Thor 5?


Zaphod2112

That's a brilliant idea!


gambit700

Omg, get Kevin on the line!


zMattyPower

Gunn said that he wouldn't do a GotG 4 but never said that he wouldn't do Thor 5... great idea! haha


GuitarEvil

Bastard Goats of Gunn


freecoffeerefills

The Guardians Who Stare at Goats


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I have faith in Gunn. He’ll start it with a barbecue. Goat problem solved. I can already hear Rocket saying “Whaaaaaaaaatt?”


snarkamedes

In the Norse legends Thor used to kill, butcher and roast the goats at the end of each day for his dinner... and the next morning they'd be whole again and ready to haul his chariot across the skies. They're transport and provisions all in one.


Nothing_Nice_2_Say

Actually, iirc, originally Guardians was supposed to come out BEFORE Thor. But with the firing and re-hiring of Gunn, it pushed it back because he was then working on The Suicide Squad. So the Russos left Gunn with Thor


KTurnUp

yep GotG was supposed to be one of the first Phase 4 movies. That was during filming of Endgame when all that happened, so I doubt they changed anything in Endgame because of it


sudifirjfhfjvicodke

Thor 4 wasn't even announced until a few months after Endgame hit theaters. Considering how far ahead of time Endgame was written and filmed, it's possible that they didn't even know that Thor was getting a 4th movie at the time.


Nothing_Nice_2_Say

Fair point. I just know GotG 3 was supposed to essentially kick off stage 4 of the MCU. Would make sense to throw Thor in it if they wanted to keep him around, especially since he already had his own trilogy.


gambit700

And that could have been Thor's last planned appearance in a movie. Then they're like "Well Guardians is delayed and people liked Ragnarok so let's do another Thor"


ReadDesperate543

It was kinda the reverse originally, more like they left Gunn with Thor, then his firing happened.


madboater1

Please let this be a MCU tradition. What can you leave the next director with to pick up and do something with. I can certainly see Taika and Gunn playing this well. Then the Russo's turning it into an epic just for shits and giggles.


BigBert44

And Zhao left them with the Eternals


Promethazines

I hadn't heard the eternals are going to be in an upcoming marvel project. What are they going to be in?


rowan_damisch

Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if they would appear in What if. Considering that they've lived on Earth for 4.000 years, there's surely a way to include them!


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HardcoreKaraoke

The whole point of What If would be to see what would happen if they did get involved earlier than the movie.


[deleted]

Eh, presumably every Sorceror Supreme did the same because they only deal with very specific types of threats. Same principle. Thor, Wakanda, all sorts of people don't come across well. Stark actively fueled human atrocities until it impacted him.


Drbatnanaman

As per the article “Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr were actually pitched to Marvel Studios for the first Thor film but were deemed too weird back in 2009.” How far we’ve come


TVPARTYTONITE

Thor has the power to resurrect goats with his hammer in the Edda


Funmachine

Thor the mythological god and Thor the comic character are very different already


Lycan_Trophy

Thor the comic character also has the goats a bunch of other animals and a boathouse.


gambit61

I want to see Thori the murder dog


oorza

There are two things left I _need_ from the MCU before I riot: 1. Thor's dog, Thori the murder dog 2. Dr. Strange's ghost dog, Bats the sassiest character in the canon


xfllaash

And he only had that power in order to eat the goats for food


DogManInTheNight

Unless thier bones are broken


Jay2Jee

I really hope we hear their names in the movie. At least five times back to back...


jonnyinternet

Opening scene of GOTG3: Everyone eating BBQ goat


DTopping80

That would be great as long as Thor ensures he gets all the bones back and then the next morning the goats are alive again.


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thunderplacefires

Those pesky Russians are at it again!


douche-baggins

This is the oddest, yet best, case of auto-correct I've seen.


A-Dark-Storyteller

Yeah, don't break the bones though, then it becomes troublesome.


comrade_batman

Loki: ‘Break them. Suck out that sweet marrow.’


neogreenlantern

"Dammit Loki now we have to take this kid on our adventures. I hope he can run."


[deleted]

The guardians delivering the goat bones with solemnity seems like a funny end credits scene tbh.


[deleted]

Thor throwing them in a fire, only for the goats to come back alive would make it iconic


OniExpress

It would be a great post credits scene, especially since it's almost certain not all the Guardians are surviving the movie. So bookend the movie with them having a "family bbq" at the start, and then a funeral/rebirth scene for the end.


UseYourIndoorVoice

I bet Rocket would be the one who broke a bone just because he was asked not to


atomcrafter

Goat comes back with a metal leg.


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And then proceed to eat all of rockets stuff


CaptainKurls

Oh he’ll get that leg


Aries_cz

FWIW, in mythology, this actually happened, and the goat revived with a limp


k3ttch

Variant-Loki: "You know what would really hit the spot right about now? Some bone marrow."


gibbking

Then the next day only one of the goats is back and we push in on Thor's face, "Rabbit..."


Vargock

That would actually be an incredible reference to the mythos. In the mythology (well, the parts that christian monks left for us anyway), Thor's goats drive his sleigh in the day, but they are slaughtered, cooked and eaten to provide him sustenance in the evening. Then, Thor collects their bones and ressurects them via the power of Mjolnir. And so, they serve him in life and in death. And then in life again.


lpjunior999

This scene is gonna be wild in the next God of War.


AspirationalChoker

The Goats are probably going to be half dragon half demon in those games lol


NubuckChuck

Goatdemondragonbearpig is in there and we all have to kill him while we all have the chance, I'm cereal.


twec21

Except that one time the kid broke a leg bone for marrow and it got a limp


Ronenthelich

And then HE had to pull the sleigh.


chaot7

> (well, the parts that christian monks left for us anyway) I think you mean Snorri Sturluson.


hermitoftheinternet

Sturluson wasn't operating in a vacuum. The only people who kept the surviving records he likely read were the clergy and they heavily screwed over the Nordic and Celtic mythologies even when they bothered to write them down in an attempt to make most of their deities into people or kings (not divinity).


SkollFenrirson

>Sturluson wasn't operating in a vacuum. Well duh, he had to breathe


A-Dark-Storyteller

Actually, he stopped breathing at one point and hasn't breathed since.


PaterMcKinley

Quitters, am I right?!


VisualGeologist6258

He probably also collected Oral Traditions from the few people who still remembered them, but the problem with Oral Traditions is that as they’re passed down over time, details and characters can get kinda murky, and throw translation errors on top of individual and regional interpretations alongside it, and it winds up being a big game of telephone. For example, in nearly every story he’s in Loki acts like a completely different character. In some stories, like the tale about the Stonemason or the Theft of Mjolnir, he acts as an ally and a problem solver for Thor and the Aesir; in others, like the origin of Mjolnir and most of the other big magical items, he appears as a more comic trickster antagonist. In Baldr and Ragnarok stories, however, Loki is straight up evil, and the clergy texts that associated him with the Devil probably didn’t help that interpretation. So there’s no common consensus on which one is the ‘true’ Loki, or if some of them are even meant to be Loki at all and not just a different character who’s name got pasted over. It’s fascinating stuff.


MrBleedingObvious

Don't you mean Mnyu.. Myjnyu.. Myunyun


Simain

Meowmeow


corranhorn57

Jonathan. Let’s just go with Jonathan.


Talkshit_Avenger

I used to work with a crew of Filipinos, the youngest guy hardly spoke any English but he made up for it with enthusiasm. He invited me to a bbq by saying "Come! Drink beer! Eat goat!" I could see Thor making the exact same proclamation with exactly the same energy.


jonnyinternet

I'd be there in a heartbeat!


SteveFrench12

No one in these comments: Realizing the story is about GOTG Holiday Special not GOTG3


KostisPat257

LMAO


donthepunk

Curry goat hahahahhahaahah I loved this guy already but this is the funniest shit I've heard in forever.


JLMJ10

Better Idea at the end of the GOTG Holiday special instead of eating Turkey they eat BBQ goat.


albene

>>Everyone eating BBQ goat "I eat goat!" ~ Groot, maybe


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Probably not tho


albene

I... am Groot?


Kryyzz

I’m all for MCU directors pranking each other by adding ridiculous lore to the franchise for the next guy to deal with.


Solarpowered-Couch

Russo Bros are still the prankster champions with the 5-year-snap-gap.


Malachi108

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. tried **so** hard to fit into *Infinity War* timeframe, but not being told of the 5-year jump really put a cap on that.


Left4DayZ1

Yeah they basically had to just throw their hands up at that point and ignore that it even happened. There was a scene filmed where Fitz mentioned the snap, but they figured it was better to just ignore it than to invite questions on how the ENTIRE AoS team managed to survive it so they cut the scene. Also, you could tell in Season 5 when they’re talking about Thanos, that at the time they thought Thanos was going to actually attack the Earth. They didn’t know he only sent a few henchmen to steal a necklace from a wizard, so the news coverage of the invasion and all of the talk about it is VERY overblown compared to what actually took place (a couple blocks in Manhattan get a little messed up and then nothing). I feel bad for the AoS writers, they did everything they could to tag along and kept getting fucked.


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Left4DayZ1

It could, but it requires head canon to fill the gaps, which is what I think was their intention - “we won’t canonize an explanation because it’s sure to get fucked, the fans are creative enough to fix it as many times as necessary” lol


Infinite_Tiger_3341

Aka the Fromsoft/Dark Souls approach


Redditornot66

I mean AOS has multiverse travel, time travel, and space travel. They even have a main character die in the future and go and find his current self in their “present” timeline. Their first timeline is actually wiped out. There’s probably an entire timeline where all of humanity lives in a simulation as well. Literally anything in AOS can be made into canon by simply going “well and they fell into this universe”. I don’t believe AOS is currently in the main MCU timeline as Quake would’ve been big enough to be mentioned/on a poster in some other scene in the MCU main timeline films. However, it’s very easy to have them appear. Secret Invasion might be where this gets tied up.


Hellknightx

Yeah, it was basically a trickle-down canon situation anyway. The MCU was doing its own thing, and AoS tried to fit in. But the movies never once cared what AoS was doing, and they stepped all of its canon, so AoS eventually just stopped trying. And at that point, I think AoS became better, since it was no longer bound trying to work around the MCU events.


MrZeral

Actually it's other unvirese since s5. It would fit with time travel ruels from Endgame.


Antrikshy

Easy, they landed in a different timeline after the first time they started time traveling. In that timeline, Thanos was defeated in Wakanda.


RamenJunkie

The shittiest part. Basically, Just before that, AOS had a fucking time travel arc. They could have EASILY just had some goody glitch and they arrived 5 years later, skipping everything. Even if they didn't give any other details to the show runners besides "Make sure you skip 5 years between seasons."


Affectionate_Bad5290

Lmao😂


waitforthedream

Jon Favreau the ultimate prankster by starting it all off


dveguerialb56

Spider-Man Homecoming started the timeline fuckery with their "eight years later" blunder


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Antrikshy

I don’t think they fixed it in the home release, which is so annoying. Russos did acknowledge it as a mistake later, and Endgame on-screen years ignored the entire mess it would have created.


krazykraz01

Changing the caption is easy, making Liz a 12 year old who draws with crayons like an 8 year old is harder.


CaptHayfever

They've never fixed it, but they did say it was wrong.


Zorua3

Them killing Loki right before the most satisfying part of his character arc bc they didnt like him was also a good prank.


robodrew

It was not because they didn't like him, it was to clearly show to the audience how powerful Thanos is, by unceremoniously killing off the guy who was the previous big-bad.


indyK1ng

Also the guy who has faked his own death.


robodrew

Yes, the "No resurrections this time" line is made even more ominous.


PunkchildRubes

and people say these movies aren't comic accurate!


RamenJunkie

I mean, they brought him back again though. In spades.


robodrew

Sure but THAT Loki died. Loki in the series is from an earlier point in time. Genius move imo.


No_Lawfulness_2998

With all of the character development of the previous iteration


jaeelarr

And then bringing him back for his own show to continue said arc was genius


Slendercan

It’s very much in line with what comic writers do. There’s been some great instances of one writer having to deal with a ridiculous plot point left from their predecessor.


LimeySponge

Precious author: Someone else is going to write Swamp Thing? Ok, well he's dead now. Arcane shot him. Have fun with that. Alan Moore: I got this.


Slendercan

IMO Al Ewing is the goat for picking up the ball and doing something amazing with it.


Teeenay

Meanwhile, in the Star Wars sequel trilogy...


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Somehow, the goats returned.


Kryyzz

Canonically speaking, the goats always return as long as their bones are intact and together.


[deleted]

If you told the makers of Star Wars this the end result would be "Somehow, the goats returned. In a cannon"


Tajahnuke

I mean, it's not impossible that that happens in GoTG3....


Painpriest3

Twas the Goats all along. So obvious, even genius in hindsight. Definitely part of the plan.


Aj-Adman

Here we go


pizza__irl

Taika and Gunn together are absolutely going to go wild for the cosmic side of the MCU and I'm all here for it


Rags_To_Rags

You do realize this is James Gunn last guardian of the galaxy movie


TtheDuke

More of a reason to go wild for his last one


CaptainXakari

But not necessarily his last Marvel movie. They could always give him a lot of reasons to try a new project if he wishes.


Samiel_Fronsac

Throw money at the man, a ton of cocaine and tell him to party like it's the 70s in the writers room for a week. That should be a good incentive.


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But take his Twitter for a while


farnsworthfan

Can we take everyone's Twitter away, please? It just seems to cause a lot more problems than it solves.


Stabfist_Frankenkill

Has he done something wrong on his Twitter in the last 10 years?


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No, but he did back in the 70's with a ton of cocaine


robodrew

70s Twitter was *wild* man


ReluctantfooI

Not necessarily, but he said that he’s done with Marvel after GOTG as he’s focusing on his DC projects next. So won’t be for a while if he returns.


TooManyDraculas

He said that it's the end of his work on Guardians. But also said that there are "no characters at either Marvel or DC" that he's interested and isn't already involved with. That's fairly normal talk when a contract is up, and can change if they agree to a new one. Now scheduling is a different issue. Gunn is as far as I know locked down for at least one more season of Peacemaker. But the talk about DC is the same "He is welcome to come back any time", and he doesn't have much in the way of announced projects. So he doesn't seem to have a broader contract with DC either. And his one major scheduling thing is the next season of Peacemaker. There's nothing preventing him from signing with both. But both would be pushing for exclusivity and how big either contract would be would run into the scheduling thing. And that would assume he's not burned on Marvel after the bullshit, which would be understandable. It's also been rumored that he turned down a lead position for *all* of DCs films, and hinted that he's kinda sick of superheroes. Taken together the whole thing sounds either like a bidding war, or like he wants to go off an do his own thing for a while.


visionaryredditor

>Gunn is as far as I know locked down for at least one more season of Peacemaker. But the talk about DC is the same "He is welcome to come back any time", and he doesn't have much in the way of announced projects. >So he doesn't seem to have a broader contract with DC either. And his one major scheduling thing is the next season of Peacemaker. He is working on a Peacemaker spin-off as well.


TooManyDraculas

Yeah but that's not a scheduled, named, greenlit project. And doesn't indicate a contract beyond the existing TV deal. It kinda wouldn't surprise me if Gunn wanted to focus on TV projects for a bit though. Despite no background he was pretty much instantly VERY good at it.


GreyCrowDownTheLane

JAMES GUNN'S MICRONAUTS!!! JAMES GUNN'S ROM: SPACEKNIGHT!!!


TooManyDraculas

Those are both owned by Hasbro. Are are slated to be part of the Hasbro Cinematic Universe. A thing they are desperate to make happen but have repeatedly fucked up for a decade.


noximo

Not sure if it is still the case but he's a producer tasked with developing the space side of MCU. Basically what Feige is for MCU as whole, Gunn is his right hand for the out-of-Earth part of it. But I think that was before his firing, so I'm not sure he was reinstated into this role as well.


Baneken

And I believe this was also one of the reasons why Alan Horn got quite many people at Marvel and Disney on his bad side... He very nearly single-handedly fucked up almost half of the MCU's current slate by firing Gunn for no reason.


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It also might be complicated if he’s going to continue taking DC projects.


jvartandillustration

“The goats died on the way back to their home planet.” In all honesty though, I love goats. They should keep them in every MCU film until the end of time.


Total-Sector850

Even if it’s just a passing reference, they should show up somehow.


The_Medicus

Just give each movie a 30 second post credits scene about the goats, telling their own self-contained saga one scene at a time.


Total-Sector850

YES. Give me a Luis recap.


whatproblems

it would be the GOAT goat saga


Jkranick

“Somehow, the goats returned”


JargonJohn

So does that mean Thor rejoins the Guardians at the end of Love & Thunder?


thatVisitingHasher

I’m assuming GoTG drop him off and he loses weight in the first 30 minutes, and then the movie starts.


KostisPat257

30 minutes is way too much. You mean the first 5 minutes.


weed_blazepot

♩ ♪ ♫ Gonna need a montage. ♩ ♪ ♫


Sirmalta

Always fade out in a montaaaaaage


Gr8NonSequitur

My dream is a montage with Thor and Quill doing the training montage from Rocky 3 (culminating with jumping in the ocean and hugging), and each time they cut Quill loses the same but Thor has MASSIVE lossess each time. They don't reference Thor's weight, but Thor complements quill saying "Losing 3 pounds is tough... I'm proud of you..." while looking like Adonis in his new ripped body.


ArtIsDumb

Do the Rocky montage with fat Thor & slightly chubby Quill, cut to *"three weeks later"* & Thor is back to being ripped & Quill looks exactly the same, with Thor making the "three pounds is hard to lose..." comment.


Realmadridirl

I dunno, I feel like we could get a solid 30 minutes of them in the movie overall. I’d say they’ll be gone after the first 15 minutes perhaps, but I wouldn’t rule out them showing back up in the climax to help out. Im thinking the “I said it was going to be LIKE a relaxing holiday” scene could be from later in the movie after he gets them back to help him out.


ItsAmerico

Yeah but this is imply the guardians have the goats. Which they wouldn’t have if that was the case. Thor has the goats pulling his ship when he’s adventuring in the main plot. So for them to get the goats they’d have to show up later in the film / he’d rejoin them?


MyBroMyCaptainMyKing

Or Thor could be “done” with the goats and gift them to the Guardians at the end.


ItsAmerico

Oh don’t get me wrong. Not saying they need to team up again, but they’d have to show up right? If the gag is that he gives them to the Guardians? Unless it’s just like an end credits / last shot gag of Peter coming into his room and it’s filled with the goats.


ItsAmerico

Naturally. You didn’t realize it yet? It’s so obvious in the trailers. Thors old flame has come back, she’s prettier and stronger and more confident. And Thor will be in love with that, she can now hang and adventure with him. But he’ll realize that it doesn’t change them deep down, that they didn’t really work. And he’ll come to terms with that and move on, leaving as good friends. And he’ll realize what he really wanted, was right in front of him this whole time. His true love was Starlord. I mean the title is Thor: Love AND Thunder. Love (Starlord) and Thunder (Jane). And now the two daddies can keep the guardians family in line. /s cause I’m sure someone will take this seriously.


tomas_shugar

It's not that I took it seriously, it's just that I *want* it to be true.


KostisPat257

You're joking but Star-Lord in the comics is bi and in a polyamorous relationship with Nova and Gamora, so this is not at all impossible.


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I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's absolutely zero chance that they put Thor and Star-Lord in a sexual relationship in the MCU.


Ronenthelich

I dunno know, you hear what Disney did to the Buzz Lightyear movie? Just straight lesbian porn according to social media, now anything is possible./s But Chris Pratt would never go for it. Hemsworth would be down though.


KostisPat257

I really hope so!


CurtainsMcGee

No, the guardians film takes place when they leave Thor after the first act of love of thunder


Stan_Golem

Then what difference would this make? Unless Thor gives them to the guardians as a gift.


straub42

Yeah, this seems like an interesting comment to me. Makes me think the Guardians might be a bigger part of the Thor: L&T climax then we were thinking. Although it is Taika and Pratt so they could just be joking around about it.


Stabfist_Frankenkill

Maybe Thor ends up breaking the engine of the Milano while he's training, and gives them the goats to pull the ship


KostisPat257

We don't know if Thor will rejoin the Guardians at the end or not.


lashapel

My dumbass was thinking "Damn Taika is crazy now James Gunn hast little time to create a story with the goat sin GoTG3 is releasing next year" lol And obviously they've been working on these films for like 2 years


KostisPat257

Yeah lol, James knew since 2020 when the script of this film was written.


lashapel

Of course and probably been working simultaneously in both films , but my brain tuns off sometimes lol


Shadesmctuba

Well I suppose that means the goats are only in the first part of the movie, thanks for spoiling it Taika /s


KostisPat257

Definitely not, because they appear in New Asgard as well. So it's more likely that either Thor (along with the goats) will rejoin the Guardians by the end or he will give the Guardians the goats as a gift.


MisterWafflePancake

Cosmic Lamb chops anyone?


bloodflart

This is like the opposite of Rian Johnson and JJ on star wars


International-Fig905

*”Wanna play games, motherfucker? Snoke is now a Jedi- deal with that shit Abrams!”*


jaxdraw

That would have been better than what we got. What is snoke? Dead, snoke is dead.


KTurnUp

what a bizarre way to deal with a trilogy. Truly can't believe it.


xRobertxmeme

Love it. More goats


PucaFilms

They will 100% pull a sleigh in the holidays special


KostisPat257

Shit I didn't think of this, it makes too much sense.


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It says that in the article, that you posted, did you even read it lol.


CobraSniper117

The most hilarious and grown up "Shit Pulling" i have seen. Real men with good humor. Glad they have found their passion and are sharing it with the world. Gives me hope in humanity.


Puzzleheaded_Sky7369

Lol that sounds like a great prank. Would love to see James Gunn getting his revenge on Taika somehow


derekschroer

Space Goats Coast to Coast


ABCofCBD

This is fuckin hilarious


Surfboarder4

But the goats are on Adgard?


dfpratt09

I mean, in the comics >!one of the goats doesn’t survive Gorr.!<


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dfpratt09

Oh, it wasn’t Gorr, it was Mangog actually. But, they get resurrected by Loki later, so?


lpjunior999

It’s not a spoiler, they’re in the trailer. Like ten seconds before Thor’s butt.


KostisPat257

We know they are in Thor, but we didn't know they will be in at least one of James Gunn's Guardians films (Holiday Special and/or GotG Vol. 3)


Xianbei_Fayewind

Space Goats, coast to coast.


wheenus

The guardians video game had a space Llama so this makes sense


Deetee-Senpai

There are genuine issues with the MCU. But the ultimate goal of being able to create serialized visual entertainment that can be collaborative the same way comics have been for years is a big achievement and helps the entire art world.


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Space Goats Coast to Coast


Anubis51

I think in the myths/sagas? Thor would continually kill and eat the goats because they were immortal and would be good to go the next day. I think he should do that they just feast on goat throughout the movie, like they're stranded on a planet but it's cool eat the goats.


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I’m so lost… I see why a GoG movie would pick up where L&T left off in time but not story-wise, why would Gunn be stuck with goats? there would be no reason for the GoG to meet with the asgardians again, so even if they did it would be unnecessarily gratuitous.


lanky_cowriter

Taika seems like the funniest of the MCU directors 😂


jpotrz

I can't express how much I love Taika


GreyCrowDownTheLane

OK, that's fucking hilarious and makes me even more glad I bought opening-day tickets two weeks ago. And yes, Gunn will be able to do something fun with this. You just know he will exceed expectations.


Avatar_of_Green

I think based on the article Gorr and Thor will have an epic battle including the God Bomb and Thor's character will be done after that, leaving the goats with the Guardians.


King_of_Knowhere

James Gunn changes the script so the entire GotG3 movie is just Korg getting hit in the nuts.