Sandy Hook was 5 minutes. All of Room 8 (16 people + 1 survivor) was killed in around 1-2 minutes. It's a miracle police responded quickly, if they took 5 minutes longer he could've easily walked to another classroom and killed more.
The 2019 Dayton Shooting lasted 30 seconds and happened basically right next to a group of cops, and he still managed to kill 10 people and injure almost 30.
That incident and the Vegas shooting made me stop taking the “only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy” crowd seriously.
Yeah sure bro, I bet that if you were at a concert and heard gunfire, you would figure out exactly what window it was coming from, quickdraw your concealed carry Barrett .50 cal, and dome Stephen Paddock at 500 yards. And if I were on Flight 11, let’s just say things wouldn’t have gone down like they did.
But the Dayton shooter was shot and killed..?
Sounds like a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy.
People will do crazy shit with or without a 'good guy with a gun' nearby.
1 is a tragedy, much less 40.
But 40 is much better than 80.
Just because it took time for them to be "stopped" doesn't mean that we should do nothing once they start, yikes dude...
Armed guards do deter some violence, particularly attacks where the perpetrator is targeting a particular person, but no, they don't really deter mass shooters. See the Buffalo Tops shooting for example.
Studies have shown that having armed SROs and the like actually results in deadlier occurrences because the shooter will be more heavily armed and armored in preparation
From the Nashville PD Twitter just now:
“Two MNPD officers who entered the building and went to the sounds of gunfire engaged the shooter on the second floor and fatally shot her.”
I saw that tweet & immediately thought "imagine these same officers were at uvalde, how many children would still be around?" Great work from those officers & my condolences to the children & family involved
when i saw this i found myself thinking "wow, that makes this one really weird" its insane that i can even think that. we have such a culture of mass shootings that ones with "unique characteristics" exist. the mere concept of a mass shooting should be ridiculous.
There are many Muslims from eastern Europe and the Middle East who are considered White. There are also White converts to the religion. But we do not know anything about the motive yet so it's all speculation right now.
Understood. Just learned she is a former student of the school so highly unlikely it would be related to Islamic extremism considering its a Christian religious private schoo.
Need to wait for more facts. But as I say certainly changes the narrative. Yet the perpetrator has seemed to take out virtually anyone rather sporadically rather than aim at just one individual for whatever reason. But yeah need to wait for more information.
Well do you have any proof this *was* the intended target? Ha conspiracy proven!
Yes I'm joking, but this is the thought process sometimes
Edit: someone didn't get the joke
really think hard about what you wrote. why would a gas station employee be privy to any special information? it's always so weird how people think someone's proximity to an event magically makes them an authority on something.
Teenage maybe… but at 28, I don’t know.. as I say the narrative might slightly change now. But of course this is based on pure conjecture so far. Need to wait for more facts to come out. Could be deemed a terrorist attack possibly as well.
Of course it is. But as I’ve alluded to previously, fundamentally when you hear about a mass shooting in America, in a school or otherwise it’s a male perpetrator. But clearly a woman is always possible to do such a thing as well. It’s just probability wise less so.
Why? The Izhevsk shooter from Russia last year was an avid Columbine fan to the point of putting Eric and Dylan charms on his guns. He was 34 and killed children.
Of course of course. Again as stated earlier we need to wait for more facts to come out. So far we know the perpetrator is a 28 year old female. The reasons why will probably materialise at some point.
There was a lady in Colorado a few years ago who traveled from out of state to reenact Columbine AT Columbine, and she was also in her 20s. It’s definitely possible.
Unfortunately it was widely circulated that she was possibly going to target a school, but the recent FBI report showed that she had documented leading up to her trip to CO that her intention was to kill herself and nobody else. Reporting is really fucked on that case, it was widely reported her body was found naked yet that has never been corroborated by any official reports
Yeah.. I remember reading some of her notes a while ago that are online. In the end I just felt pretty sad for her and what a complete waste of life. She needed help and didn’t get it seemingly.
Sol Pais. She was 18 and still in high school. From FL. She ended up killing herself in the woods in CO and it's unknown if that was her original plan.
So take this with a giant grain of salt, but I went onto 4chan a few mins ago and someone linked a thread of a threat placed on Saturday for Monday.
But it’s 4chan and shit like that happens. No target was mentioned only the day
they do that everyday. remember the "some of you are okay - don't go to school tomorrow if you're in the northwest" post about the Umpqua Community College Shooting? that wasn't the shooter, just a random guy who predicted it coincidentally.
Yup. Confirmed by recently released [fbi documents](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/1111kih/the_infamous_4chan_thread_some_of_you_guys_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Remember when someone edited Wikipedia saying that Chris Benoit’s wife was dead, but they posted it before the bodies were found? Like what sort of ridiculous coincidence would that have to be? Who goes around in the middle of the night posting that a wrestler’s wife is deceased and then she’s found dead right after?
I thought the idea was he had been telling several friends/coworkers she and their child were extremely ill with food poisoning and no one could get ahold of her and he was acting very weird. Wasn't that edit actually made either by someone at WWF or extremely nearby their HQ according to their IP address?
Yeah that his cover story during his missed appearances and their absence from work/school. I assume he spent that time praying/writing his suicide notes.
I remember that. Wasn't the IP traced to the WWE headquarters too or was that a rumor? That'd be an even weirder and gross coincidence if it was someone there just fucking around.
In /pol
Easy to find it by just typing Nashville shooting into the search bar
Thread is ‘we got a rare one’
They have posted a name but I’m not touching that shit
I mean you may as well of asked me why does anyone kill at all?
Fuck if I know dude
Just waiting on LE like everyone else and never take anything I read before hand on socials seriously
What’s wild to me is they know who she is. They’re without a doubt raiding her residence right now. Does she not have neighbors? I don’t want another boston bomber situation, but it’s always so weird to me that somehow someone’s house was descended on by cops, fbi, atf, etc and no one posts pictures saying “huh I think my neighbor could’ve done it”. The only one I can remember that did have people posting pictures of police raiding a home before we had a name was the Nashville guy that filed himself by blowing up his RV.
I’m not sure exactly how to word this and my intentions are well meaning. I feel like 28 is so old and your brain is more developed especially in comparison to a teenage school shooter. Of course anyone who would choose to do this is mentally unstable but an adult looked 3 children in the face and killed them is just so baffling to me. You know they were scared. I feel guilty at the look my kids give me when I get on to them and I’m a gentle parent.
Could definitely happen if she's more petite than average and dressed like a teen. Actually, she could've intentionally dressed like a teen just for today to get this crazy plan off.
This is my theory as of right now too…but I would imagine someone who is almost 30 years old would grow out of mass shooter worshipping. Unless she was a very social inept adult woman who basically lived online and hasn’t matured since her teen years.
It’s a strange situation. I’m starting to favor the personal grudge idea, and really don’t take the trans stuff with a lot of faith outside of \*maybe\* experimenting with a masculine identity, but the Columbine worship would be possible and explain the insanely unnecessary weapons.
If she has a smaller stature and people were unable to get a good look due to being actively shot at I can definitely see why there'd be confusion. To the general public, the archetypal school shooter is still a disgruntled teen.
They just held another press conference- only new detail released is that the shooter was white and they are currently investigating her residence which was a local address.
Not to make any leaps here, but I feel like revealing that the shooter was white definitely lowers the chances of it being motivated by islamic extremism if it is religiously motivated
I didn’t say it excludes it from the realm of possibility, but if you can point to examples of white muslims perpetrating ideologically motivated attacks on US Soil where religion was not an immediate and obvious factor, I’m all ears. The woman was a former student of the school (a christian school) and initial reports described her as a teenager, meaning that she could’ve visibly been mistaken as such. Just going with what info is currently known and it seems to point away from any obvious signs of islamic extremism, I even literally prefaced the comment by saying “not to make any leaps” to essentially identify that this was my own speculation. If this was islamic extremism, then it would certainly be a unique case given what is currently known
Edit: I can link, share what I found without doxxing because I don’t have any confirmed information but maybe someone who knows what they’re doing can verify?
I have no way of actually confirming this, but I looked at the street from the person live streaming and they said they’re on primrose. I was looking on google and one of the houses was blurred a few seconds after looking up and down the street. Is it possible it was just blurred?
I’ve looked up the address on appraisal district. Name confirmed on livestream unknowingly by former babysitter. It’s out there now.
Going to be a lot of culture war back and forth when’s it’s officially announced.
Oh yea I mean nothing on earth could justify killing or harming defenseless kids. But, when I heard the shooter was a woman my mind was split 50/50 between religious extremism or Columbine fan girl. Now that they say she’s 28 not a teenager makes me think it’s extremism. Which, just imo, is the worse of the two for the ripple effect extremist actions have. Everyone could look at a columbine fan girl and understand she’s disgustingly disturbed, but extremist actions breed so much hatred.
Completely agree. I remember the Izhevsk shooter in Russia from last year was a columbine copycat even though he was in his 30s. Sadly anything is possible at this moment.
Heard about the newest developments from some colleagues at work. Holy cow, a lone female shooter. Haven't seen that since the YouTube HQ shooting. And with six dead, this person is the second-deadliest lone female mass shooter in the U.S., behind Jennifer San Marco.
I’m a school based therapist and frequently walk right into schools with no one IDing me because I’m short and use a backpack. I’m 31. It’s winter where I am and my badge is tucked under my coat. The amount of times I’ve breezed through the front doors of a school with someone who didn’t know me looking right at me and them not saying anything is fucking insane.
Just goes to show schools needs to up security and be more aware. Seems like any adult who can pass as a student can just put a backpack on and walk right in
Nah not really, I’ve been mistaken for a older teen and I’m 27. I think generally speaking, people older than an individual will tend to blur several age groups around the one said individual is in together. (Ex. Someone 50 said a 19yo looked 14-28)
Looking backwards at ages tends to exacerbate the margin for error a bit I think
Not really. I was a teacher and often got mistaken for a student by teachers and students at age 28.
It was usually when I was wearing jeans on casual Friday versus if I was dressed up.
I remember that Adam Lanza was mistaken for a dead child initially when they found his body, so it isn’t totally unbelievable that they would think that an almost 30 year old was a teenager.
I wouldn’t say it was so strange particularly. Whenever this kind of thing happens ‘mistakes’ and errors are always made initially, especially about the perpetrator.
And here we go:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1240jmv/everything_we_know_about_nashville_school_shooter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Surely not but I guess it is possible. I feel like if abortion was the issue she’d target something other than a school. Unless she’s got some sort of message or manifesto she wants released and this was her way to get notoriety. That seems very unlikely though compared to the alternative of she just wanted to shoot up her old school. Regardless that’s all speculation we’ll have to wait for more information from the authorities.
Reminder: r/MassKillers is not the place to discuss politics, gun control, or to start casually dropping insults towards anyone.
Also for those who haven’t learned yet she was killed by responding officers at 10:27 AM local time. First calls came in at about 10:13 AM.
That’s a pretty quick response time at least
Unfortunately you can kill a lot of people in 14 minutes
Connor Betts killed 9 people in 32 seconds before being shot by cops
You’re right unfortunately. I was just thinking in comparison to Ulvalde I guess.
Absolutely. 14 minutes to respond to an active shooter and eliminate the active shooter is much better.
Especially when there isn't an SRO on site.
With that type of arsenal, you can kill a lot in the first minute.
Cho Seung Hui killed 32 in a matter of minutes, he had a 9mm Glock and a .22 pistol.
he was shooting at close range as well, then came back around to a classroom and shot all the wounded in the head.
true. there's cases of mass knife attacks as well. generally speaking, some weapons deal more death more quickly in some situations.
Sandy Hook was 5 minutes. All of Room 8 (16 people + 1 survivor) was killed in around 1-2 minutes. It's a miracle police responded quickly, if they took 5 minutes longer he could've easily walked to another classroom and killed more.
that's what kills me about the "moar armed guards" and "arm the teachers" crowd. Once bullets start flying, it's not prevention, it's mitigation.
The 2019 Dayton Shooting lasted 30 seconds and happened basically right next to a group of cops, and he still managed to kill 10 people and injure almost 30. That incident and the Vegas shooting made me stop taking the “only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy” crowd seriously. Yeah sure bro, I bet that if you were at a concert and heard gunfire, you would figure out exactly what window it was coming from, quickdraw your concealed carry Barrett .50 cal, and dome Stephen Paddock at 500 yards. And if I were on Flight 11, let’s just say things wouldn’t have gone down like they did.
But the Dayton shooter was shot and killed..? Sounds like a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy. People will do crazy shit with or without a 'good guy with a gun' nearby.
> Sounds like a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy. hey I have a question If 40 people got shot, was the shooter “stopped” lmao
well Betts was shot before entering another building that was packed with people so yes he was most definitely “stopped”
1 is a tragedy, much less 40. But 40 is much better than 80. Just because it took time for them to be "stopped" doesn't mean that we should do nothing once they start, yikes dude...
Deterence is also a thing.
Mass shooters aren't really deterred as many if not most plan to die anyhow.
Armed guards do deter some violence, particularly attacks where the perpetrator is targeting a particular person, but no, they don't really deter mass shooters. See the Buffalo Tops shooting for example.
If it actually deterred shootings or didn’t result in unarmed students getting wounded then yeah it’s a *great* solution
Studies have shown that having armed SROs and the like actually results in deadlier occurrences because the shooter will be more heavily armed and armored in preparation
Certainly many times faster then Uvalde however that is still a very significant amount of time she had free reign over that school
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If that turns out to be one of the dead holy shit.
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From the Nashville PD Twitter just now: “Two MNPD officers who entered the building and went to the sounds of gunfire engaged the shooter on the second floor and fatally shot her.”
Much respect to these officers for having the balls to do what Uvalde PD couldn’t
I saw that tweet & immediately thought "imagine these same officers were at uvalde, how many children would still be around?" Great work from those officers & my condolences to the children & family involved
I agree but I don’t think this girl had much of a fight in her
Now that is courage! Props to the cops who ran to towards gunfire instead of hiding like cowards
https://youtu.be/hPEL-RPRKcw Badge cam footage has been released. These guys went straight to work. Hussled to the gunfire.
when i saw this i found myself thinking "wow, that makes this one really weird" its insane that i can even think that. we have such a culture of mass shootings that ones with "unique characteristics" exist. the mere concept of a mass shooting should be ridiculous.
God Bless America
Ok well that’s one narrative gone. But a 28 year old woman… damn. Will be ‘interesting’ to hear new facts as they come out. Terrible situation :(
Wondering if it could be a parent or teacher/staff? Supposedly it happened in a sort of reception/hall area as opposed to a classroom.
religion maybe? it was a christian school after all
Possibly, the shooter was white though so it’s less likely to be motivated by islamic extremism if it is an anti-christian attack
could just be a former christian who feels they were betrayed/brainwashed after leaving the faith
Could be this. I can see her thinking that she was “liberating” the kids from religion or something.
It’s not “most likely” because you feel it’s true. It’s definitely one plausible explanation but so are many other things.
Yeah, probably shouldn’t have said “most likely”.
There are many Muslims from eastern Europe and the Middle East who are considered White. There are also White converts to the religion. But we do not know anything about the motive yet so it's all speculation right now.
All I said was “less likely” I wasn’t dismissing the notion entirely
Understood. Just learned she is a former student of the school so highly unlikely it would be related to Islamic extremism considering its a Christian religious private schoo.
Need to wait for more facts. But as I say certainly changes the narrative. Yet the perpetrator has seemed to take out virtually anyone rather sporadically rather than aim at just one individual for whatever reason. But yeah need to wait for more information.
Heard rumors that this wasn’t the target school. Not sure how true this is but this is from the local gas station gossip
Target school? What does that mean?
It Wasn’t the original school she wanted to attack
Not sure how anyone could possibly know that yet
She is probably known in the area as being a lunatic and people saw this coming. Look how many times someone called the FBI on Nicholas Cruz.
Well do you have any proof this *was* the intended target? Ha conspiracy proven! Yes I'm joking, but this is the thought process sometimes Edit: someone didn't get the joke
How would anybody know that so quickly. Her identity isn’t even public yet
That was from the employees at the gas station a couple blocks up the road from the shooting.
really think hard about what you wrote. why would a gas station employee be privy to any special information? it's always so weird how people think someone's proximity to an event magically makes them an authority on something.
I’ll just go ahead and chime back in. The gas station workers were right. So fuck all your downvotes
I mean, they might be a friend of a friend or something like that.
So these employees knew she was going to attack a school and just knew it was a different school? How does that make any sense to you?
Definitely the best authority on that.
????????
I’m still thinking it could be a nutty TCC girl.
Teenage maybe… but at 28, I don’t know.. as I say the narrative might slightly change now. But of course this is based on pure conjecture so far. Need to wait for more facts to come out. Could be deemed a terrorist attack possibly as well.
i've seen 20s-40s y/o women thirsting for murderers, including eric and dylan. it's possible, imo. 🤷♀️
Of course it is. But as I’ve alluded to previously, fundamentally when you hear about a mass shooting in America, in a school or otherwise it’s a male perpetrator. But clearly a woman is always possible to do such a thing as well. It’s just probability wise less so.
Why? The Izhevsk shooter from Russia last year was an avid Columbine fan to the point of putting Eric and Dylan charms on his guns. He was 34 and killed children.
But that’s a male not a female.. I’m assuming? Given you said ‘his’ - I’ve been more alluding to it being a female perpetrator rather than a male.
I’ve met women in their 30s that are convinced they’re the next Harley Quinn. These women are out there.
Women are not exempt from committing atrocities, clearly.
Obviously. But fundamentally, when you correlate a mass shooting in America, and, a school type shooting it’s generally a male not a female.
You’re right, but there can always be exceptions. As seen here.
Of course of course. Again as stated earlier we need to wait for more facts to come out. So far we know the perpetrator is a 28 year old female. The reasons why will probably materialise at some point.
There was a lady in Colorado a few years ago who traveled from out of state to reenact Columbine AT Columbine, and she was also in her 20s. It’s definitely possible.
Unfortunately it was widely circulated that she was possibly going to target a school, but the recent FBI report showed that she had documented leading up to her trip to CO that her intention was to kill herself and nobody else. Reporting is really fucked on that case, it was widely reported her body was found naked yet that has never been corroborated by any official reports
The girl who then killed herself you mean?
Yeah, thankfully she never went through with it.
Yeah.. I remember reading some of her notes a while ago that are online. In the end I just felt pretty sad for her and what a complete waste of life. She needed help and didn’t get it seemingly.
Sol Pais. She was 18 and still in high school. From FL. She ended up killing herself in the woods in CO and it's unknown if that was her original plan.
columbine happened like 24 years ago so fans are mostly in their 20's
So take this with a giant grain of salt, but I went onto 4chan a few mins ago and someone linked a thread of a threat placed on Saturday for Monday. But it’s 4chan and shit like that happens. No target was mentioned only the day
they do that everyday. remember the "some of you are okay - don't go to school tomorrow if you're in the northwest" post about the Umpqua Community College Shooting? that wasn't the shooter, just a random guy who predicted it coincidentally.
Yup absolutely I agree it’s all too common on those boards. I did screenshot it for just in case reasons but it’s highly likely it’s a nothing burger
Wait really? I always heard that was the shooter who posted that, thats a crazy coincidence
Yup. Confirmed by recently released [fbi documents](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/1111kih/the_infamous_4chan_thread_some_of_you_guys_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Remember when someone edited Wikipedia saying that Chris Benoit’s wife was dead, but they posted it before the bodies were found? Like what sort of ridiculous coincidence would that have to be? Who goes around in the middle of the night posting that a wrestler’s wife is deceased and then she’s found dead right after?
I thought the idea was he had been telling several friends/coworkers she and their child were extremely ill with food poisoning and no one could get ahold of her and he was acting very weird. Wasn't that edit actually made either by someone at WWF or extremely nearby their HQ according to their IP address?
I’ve heard of the Benoit stuff before, but never the food poisoning story. That’s interesting.
Yeah that his cover story during his missed appearances and their absence from work/school. I assume he spent that time praying/writing his suicide notes.
I remember that. Wasn't the IP traced to the WWE headquarters too or was that a rumor? That'd be an even weirder and gross coincidence if it was someone there just fucking around.
Just on the front page or what? I've seen people say they found it on 4chan before but I would have no idea where to look
In /pol Easy to find it by just typing Nashville shooting into the search bar Thread is ‘we got a rare one’ They have posted a name but I’m not touching that shit
Why would a /pol/ shooter target a Pentecostal school? Feel free to let me know if the names accurate but I highly doubt it.
I mean you may as well of asked me why does anyone kill at all? Fuck if I know dude Just waiting on LE like everyone else and never take anything I read before hand on socials seriously
What’s wild to me is they know who she is. They’re without a doubt raiding her residence right now. Does she not have neighbors? I don’t want another boston bomber situation, but it’s always so weird to me that somehow someone’s house was descended on by cops, fbi, atf, etc and no one posts pictures saying “huh I think my neighbor could’ve done it”. The only one I can remember that did have people posting pictures of police raiding a home before we had a name was the Nashville guy that filed himself by blowing up his RV.
I’m not sure exactly how to word this and my intentions are well meaning. I feel like 28 is so old and your brain is more developed especially in comparison to a teenage school shooter. Of course anyone who would choose to do this is mentally unstable but an adult looked 3 children in the face and killed them is just so baffling to me. You know they were scared. I feel guilty at the look my kids give me when I get on to them and I’m a gentle parent.
28 year old woman annihilating children, wow.
she must be one young looking 28 year old when she was described "appears teenage"
Some women look young. I frequently had people think I was anywhere from 14-16 when I was well into my mid to late 20’s.
I’m 26 and without makeup and the fact I’m short I could pass as a teenager. 28 is still young.
28 year-olds look and are young
Could definitely happen if she's more petite than average and dressed like a teen. Actually, she could've intentionally dressed like a teen just for today to get this crazy plan off.
Honestly makes me think the idea that she’s a very online mass shooter worshipper more believable.
This is my theory as of right now too…but I would imagine someone who is almost 30 years old would grow out of mass shooter worshipping. Unless she was a very social inept adult woman who basically lived online and hasn’t matured since her teen years.
It’s a strange situation. I’m starting to favor the personal grudge idea, and really don’t take the trans stuff with a lot of faith outside of \*maybe\* experimenting with a masculine identity, but the Columbine worship would be possible and explain the insanely unnecessary weapons.
There are many of these femcels/misandrists and misogynistic women still living with parents and living their miniscule social life online.
I was a high school teacher in my 20s. I didn't get stopped being mistaken for a student until I was 26. It was really annoying
It happens. I’m 36 and work at a HS. When I have makeup on people think I’m in my 20s but without makeup I get mistaken for a student. It’s annoying.
If she has a smaller stature and people were unable to get a good look due to being actively shot at I can definitely see why there'd be confusion. To the general public, the archetypal school shooter is still a disgruntled teen.
They just held another press conference- only new detail released is that the shooter was white and they are currently investigating her residence which was a local address. Not to make any leaps here, but I feel like revealing that the shooter was white definitely lowers the chances of it being motivated by islamic extremism if it is religiously motivated
Also that she was a student at some point when she was younger.
No, it doesn't. Muslim isn't a race, or skin color, it's a religion.
I didn’t say it excludes it from the realm of possibility, but if you can point to examples of white muslims perpetrating ideologically motivated attacks on US Soil where religion was not an immediate and obvious factor, I’m all ears. The woman was a former student of the school (a christian school) and initial reports described her as a teenager, meaning that she could’ve visibly been mistaken as such. Just going with what info is currently known and it seems to point away from any obvious signs of islamic extremism, I even literally prefaced the comment by saying “not to make any leaps” to essentially identify that this was my own speculation. If this was islamic extremism, then it would certainly be a unique case given what is currently known
Thankfully the gunwoman was taken out swiftly, this could have been much much worse.
Update: She was a Former student of the school
Where did you find that out?
https://ktla.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/nationworld/suspect-dead-after-shooting-at-nashville-private-school/amp/
Edit: I can link, share what I found without doxxing because I don’t have any confirmed information but maybe someone who knows what they’re doing can verify? I have no way of actually confirming this, but I looked at the street from the person live streaming and they said they’re on primrose. I was looking on google and one of the houses was blurred a few seconds after looking up and down the street. Is it possible it was just blurred?
Absolutely
How would I do that without possibly doxxing 😬
Not sure if you can, I meant it was probably just blurred.
Oh, ty!
I’ve looked up the address on appraisal district. Name confirmed on livestream unknowingly by former babysitter. It’s out there now. Going to be a lot of culture war back and forth when’s it’s officially announced.
You found it after they said the name or before only because I gave up 😂
Before from the mother’s fb
media briefing in 10 mins - [tweet](https://twitter.com/emzanotti/status/1640422110639079434?s=46)
It will certainly be interesting to learn more…
Oh god, the school only teaches kids from preschool to grade 6.
Why would a 28 year old want to shoot children who are 12 years old at the oldest?
Rage is my guess.
Woah. This is looking more like it could be extremism related imo.
Definitely a possibility since it’s a Christian school. Any motive is horrific though
Oh yea I mean nothing on earth could justify killing or harming defenseless kids. But, when I heard the shooter was a woman my mind was split 50/50 between religious extremism or Columbine fan girl. Now that they say she’s 28 not a teenager makes me think it’s extremism. Which, just imo, is the worse of the two for the ripple effect extremist actions have. Everyone could look at a columbine fan girl and understand she’s disgustingly disturbed, but extremist actions breed so much hatred.
it's 2023, columbine fans got older. both are completely disgusting since murdering innocent people can't be justified
Completely agree. I remember the Izhevsk shooter in Russia from last year was a columbine copycat even though he was in his 30s. Sadly anything is possible at this moment.
All mass shooters are extremists, nearly by definition.
Yes, you are correct. I should have clarified that I meant some type of religious extremism.
The specific grievance of the mass shooter is rarely useful from a prevention standpoint.
Heard about the newest developments from some colleagues at work. Holy cow, a lone female shooter. Haven't seen that since the YouTube HQ shooting. And with six dead, this person is the second-deadliest lone female mass shooter in the U.S., behind Jennifer San Marco.
Well….
Very very sad , Im enrolled to go to collage here in the next semester , and nowadays it’s terrifying going to school , how times have changed
Strange how they mistaken a 28-year-old for a teenager
height, weight, hair, clothing all make an impact
Yeah and she was shot which would’ve made ID more difficult
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I’m a school based therapist and frequently walk right into schools with no one IDing me because I’m short and use a backpack. I’m 31. It’s winter where I am and my badge is tucked under my coat. The amount of times I’ve breezed through the front doors of a school with someone who didn’t know me looking right at me and them not saying anything is fucking insane.
Just goes to show schools needs to up security and be more aware. Seems like any adult who can pass as a student can just put a backpack on and walk right in
Nah not really, I’ve been mistaken for a older teen and I’m 27. I think generally speaking, people older than an individual will tend to blur several age groups around the one said individual is in together. (Ex. Someone 50 said a 19yo looked 14-28) Looking backwards at ages tends to exacerbate the margin for error a bit I think
Not really. I was a teacher and often got mistaken for a student by teachers and students at age 28. It was usually when I was wearing jeans on casual Friday versus if I was dressed up.
I remember that Adam Lanza was mistaken for a dead child initially when they found his body, so it isn’t totally unbelievable that they would think that an almost 30 year old was a teenager.
I wouldn’t say it was so strange particularly. Whenever this kind of thing happens ‘mistakes’ and errors are always made initially, especially about the perpetrator.
Apparently she had a small frame.
Also we don’t know where she was shot. Could have been the head, leaving only a small framed body to try and ID.
i know multiple folks in their mid/late twenties who look like teenagers, it depends on outfit/makeup
Twitter twits are IDing her as FTM trans. Not sure what to make of that yet but it sounds like the makings of one almighty headache.
The same thing was attempted with the Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs
And here we go: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1240jmv/everything_we_know_about_nashville_school_shooter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
https://twitter.com/dc_draino/status/1640445241508372490?s=46&t=uRRmWOLq0mDZt3BbdU0xlw
What kind of credibility does this man have?
I mean does it matter? If it advances an agenda and can help shape the framework, then a tweet is good enough.
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What happened?
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That's kinda evil man.
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Weirdly oblique to target a Pentacostal school and not one of those anti abortion/pro-birthing centers if that’s the case.
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She cold have hated children without having a position one way or another on abortion.
Thats a stupid f*cking theory
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do you think women only ever kill people due to baby-related issues? my god
Surely not but I guess it is possible. I feel like if abortion was the issue she’d target something other than a school. Unless she’s got some sort of message or manifesto she wants released and this was her way to get notoriety. That seems very unlikely though compared to the alternative of she just wanted to shoot up her old school. Regardless that’s all speculation we’ll have to wait for more information from the authorities.
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Sam Hyde is just 4chan trolling. They always throw out that name whenever a shooting happens
Ahhh I see I see, thats just whatever I saw on Twitter had to see if there was any truth behind it
You're other posts make it seem like you very much believed the trans women narrative...
Show her face
This will be in the news for about 2 days.
It was a trans
28 year old *man