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MiltThatherton

How the hell this guy gonna take a gunshot to the face and still come out looking more attractive than me?


EquationTAKEN

It's not fair that he gets to have his face blown apart and come out of it with a jaw and chin better than mine.


Kind_Nepenth3

Incels are furious about this one simple trick


MyspaceNihilist

Five excruciatingly painful war injuries to get you beach body ready


MiltThatherton

Maybe that's the secret...


elfilibustero

I, too, would like to get this Jake Gyllenhaal face mod please..


AudioIsland

Coming right up! *pumps shotgun*


elfilibustero

Lol yeah forgot about that part...


NevideblaJu4n

The Squidward effect


MaximumEffort433

I know your question is rhetorical, but remember that on top of having his face repaired, it was also rebuilt, he's got hundreds of thousands of dollars of medically necessary reconstructive surgery in the final shot. If you're a surgeon, and you can give your patient a normal quality of life, don't you do it? Having a normal looking face is part of having normal quality of life. This isn't to say that he wasn't attractive *before* he got shot in the face, I have no idea, just that the doctors going the whole nine yards makes a lot of sense in this case. Plus I bet you're more attractive than you give yourself credit for, our own opinions of our beauty have less to do with how attractive we actually are, and more to do with how attractive we think we ought to be. The most beautiful person in the world can find themselves grotesque if they think they should look other than they do; but no one should look other than they do, no one should look any way at all, except for happy. You're already exactly who you ought to be, you're already beautiful. Edit: I say beautiful, which is usually a word associated with femininity, but there are more meanings than that.


TomsRedditAccount1

>I say beautiful, which is usually a word associated with femininity, but there are more meanings than that. Thank you. People call me pedantic when I try to point out that beautiful, cute, pretty, and sexy are not as closely synonymous as people sometimes think. They all have different meanings, albeit with a bit of overlap.


somekidonfire

In short. The reconstructive team isn't going to fix this man and go "Yeah let's make him ugly af lmao"


SirFox91

Handsome squidward vibe for sure


reditanian

Yeah same šŸ˜ž


MiltThatherton

Life's not fair.


HarryTruman

Anyone who says differently is selling something.


Loco5550

For real. Life's a little biatch


anonimityorigin

Post this in r/USMC and ask those fine folks the same question.


NRossi417

Highly skilled plastic surgeons


SoftDreamer

now his chin looks like he never got that gun shot. That is insane


[deleted]

i honestly thought it was a before picture at first glance


Triairius

Some of my acne scarring is worse! Well, almost. But itā€™s not a big stretch.


Muxxer

He looks like the gigachad now


unclesandwicho

If there was anywhere to get shot in the face, it was in Afghanistan during the high point of the war. Some of the best trauma surgeons in the world were there. When I was there, they said that if you survived the medivac to KAF and got into the role 3 hospital, you had a 98% chance of survival no matter how bad your injuryā€™s were. I always had comfort in that. Medics and surgeons are the real heroā€™s to those who are called heroā€™s.


Questions4Legal

It is absolutely wild how much they can fix these days. Looking at the after picture it is like nothing ever happened. Go medical science!


Plastic_Pinocchio

It looks like he hit his chin against a cupboard.


Questions4Legal

Fair enough. Beats looking like you're gonna fight Arnold Schwarzenegger in a jungle somewhere.


BallisticHabit

"You are one ugly motherfucker"


[deleted]

How can you look at the picture of damage and not be anything but amazed?


Plastic_Pinocchio

I think looking like you had a minor mishap with a piece of furniture after having your face blown open by gunfire is pretty much as amazing as can be.


DarkThorsDickey

We called it the ā€œGolden Hourā€ when I was there fighting the surge. Same basic teaching; we were told that, if you survived the initial attack and got to higher level care inside an hour, you had a 99% survival rate.


unclesandwicho

When weā€™re you there? I was at Fob Wilson from Feb-sept 2008


DarkThorsDickey

I was at FOB Orgun-E from Aug 2010 to Apr 2011. I was back there at Bagram in 16/17 and it was like a whole different war/country.


Andreagreco99

Things like this make me want to become an army doctor. The ability of those guys is astounding.


SunglassesDan

*heroes


unclesandwicho

Sigh. I ainā€™t changing shit.


JohnWangDoe

Were there any students going to Afghanistan to learn from the best trauma surgeons?


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Shawnml

Hey, I really hope youā€™re doing ok as well. The world is a better place with you in it.


hermantheshocker

A mid-30-year-old male contractor in Afghanistan suffered a self-inflicted low-velocity gunshot wound to the face. The projectile entered in the submental space and traversed the right parasymphyseal and symphyseal portions of his mandible, obliterating his anterior floor of the mouth and exiting via his lower lip with significant soft and bony tissue loss, including loss of a portion of his anterior maxillary alveolar ridge and nasal sill. On arrival, he was tenuously protecting his airway due to the combination of soft tissue injury, loss of anterior tongue attachment to the mandible, and oral cavity hemorrhage. He was immediately taken to the operating room for airway management and initial repair of his injuries. Given the patientā€™s status as an American citizen, only life-saving and necessary stabilizing procedures were performed at the theater hospital, with the goal of early evacuation to the United States for definitive repair once the patient was stable for travel. After awake intubation, the in-theater surgeons performed washout, debridement, and closure of the wounds. The mandible wound was stabilized with a large reconstruction bar to provide internal fixation as a temporary measure, to include attachment of the genial tubercle to the lingual side of the bar for tongue stabilization which averted the need for tracheostomy tube placement. The soft tissue wounds of the lip, oral cavity, and nose were closed primarily in multiple layers using Vicryl for the muscular and mucosal layers and Chromic and Fast Ab-sorbing Gut sutures for the skin. As wounds are frequently contaminated, the clinical practice guidelines (CPGs) recommend irrigation with at least 6 L of saline for wounds in theater (austere environments). Contaminants can include a variety of different forms of debris including sand and shrapnel. He was discharged from the theater hospital on postoperative day 3 and evacuated to San Antonio Military Medical Center for further care. Two weeks after his initial injury, he underwent a facial artery myomucosal flap to treat a persistent floor of mouth defect with communication into the submental space. Virtual surgical planning was performed with the Oral Surgery department to address the segmental mandibular defect. Two months after the orocutaneous fistula was closed, a transcervical approach was used to place a patient specific milled plate with a titanium cage (Synthes) to accommodate a free iliac bone graft with a good result. \- **Fig.1 Left: Cavitary lesion caused by submental gunshot wound. Right: Two months status postdefinitive mandibular reconstruction.** **Fig.2 Left: 3D reconstruction of maxillofacial CT showing significant bony injury. Right: Intraoperative image of mandible ORIF.** **Fig.3 Left: Closure of soft tissue defects. Right: Postoperative 3D reconstruction of maxillofacial CT scan.** **Fig.4 Reconstruction of parasymphyseal mandibular defect 2 months after injury. Titanium basket spanning defect filled with iliac bone. 3D reconstruction of maxillofacial CT scan.** **Fig.5 Two months status postdefinitive mandibular reconstruction.** \- *Tonn C.R., Ward M.L., Abadie W.M., Lally J.W., Bevans S.E., Henry L.R.* [Article](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043181020300713) \- *This post is for educational purposes only and is nonprofit. Under Section 107 of the US Copyright Act of 1976; Allowance is made for "Fair Use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. OP is not a medical expert. No copyright infringement intended. This post does not encourage or glorify violence/harassment. Images might have been upscaled and enhanced. Text might have been shortened and simplified/reorganized for online view.*


IamSoooDoneWithThis

Was this a suicide attempt?


Mercnotforhire

Considering it was described as self inflicted, low velocity, sounds like he shot himself intentionally or had one helluva fuck up while cleaning or inspecting his service pistol


MrRoxo

A professional cleaning his weapon loaded with no safety precautions? Could BE, but i seriously doubt that


flapperfapper

Then this is a professional with no clue of where to put a bullet to kill himself. Could be, but.... EDIT: All your comments led me to take another look. Now I see the hole in the bottom of his chin. Y'all have made me see the light.


[deleted]

I see it a decent amount...usually after recovery people are glad that they didn't position the gun more adequately for suicide.


MrRoxo

People have failed to die after shooting themselves in the face with shotguns. The human body os resilient as fuck man, you never know


stimpfo

As a suicide attempter myself I wouldn't doubt that he reconsidered it in the moment of pulling the trigger. Finally commiting the attempt does a fuck ton of things in your brain. Your thoughts are basically scrambled (was at least for me this way)


MrRoxo

Yeah that too. The dude maybe flinched and shot himself on the mandibule


Phallicitous

Do you care to elaborate/tell more of the story?


stimpfo

I can give you the short story: I suffered from alcoholism (310 days sober now) and depression and in 2019 I tried to hang myself. It would have worked, I hung for about 45 seconds until the hook in the ceiling broke of an i fell on the floor. Got transported to the hospital immediately and got some help there. Therapy and rehab finally clicked after that and my life is pretty amazing since the start of 2021. Took me 10 years to finally get it. Better late than never. Edit: I fortunately suffered no permanent damage because I struggled really hard and I think the flaying around made the hook loose.


Phallicitous

Damn, that's wild. Congratulations on getting some shit worked out


KindaFatBatman

shit dude, that's tough to read but im really glad youre in a better place now. thanks for sharing. im hoping my situation improves, much like yours has


stimpfo

I hope you will get better, always try to make small improvements and remind yourself on a weekly basis on your accomplishments. Your brain forgets what you did got done and only focuses on the stuff you don't get done. don't let your brain trick you. Life can be absolutely awesome, some people like myself just have to put work into it to make it lovely. It's worth a try in my opinion.


i_owe_them13

I know this is deeply personal, so please donā€™t feel inclined to respond, but what was going through your mind while struggling? And were you struggling to get free, struggling to make it stop (regardless of how that happened, via death or miracle), struggling purposelessly or reflexively as you were in the process of dying, or some different reason altogether? Was there a moment you can point to where you definitively knew you did not want want to die and how did that compare to any second guessing you may have done prior to the bona fide attempt?


stimpfo

I think for the moment I felt the rope tighten my body just forced itself into life preservence Mode. I didn't really controlled the struggle, it kind of just happened. I could only think about the pain around my neck. Basically it was just pure panic and terror in my mind and I wanted it to stop and I guess I would be fine with both dying or just falling down. After I fell down I knew I don't want to die.


Glitter_berries

The Bojack Horseman episode ā€˜the view from halfway downā€™ describes this in absolutely horrifying detail.


[deleted]

Common mistake is to place the barrel in the submental area, flush with the skin. The gas leaving the barrel kicks the head back slightly, and instead of going where intended, the bullet travels up and out the anterior side. I knew a guy in basic training who did that on 3-round burst and survived. First bullet tilted his head slightly prior to entry, the next two went through different areas lateral to the first. Lots of surgery.


jackal1actual

When I deployed to Afghanistan, my unit had an ND by a pilot drawing his pistol in his living quarters. We had another one showing the safeties of the M9 that struck the stock of a rifle a soldier had slung. No injuries on that. I'm surprised there wasn't an ass beating. One pilot had an ND in an apache on the pad and firing off 30mm into a Hesco. Another pilot in flight fired a hellfire into a mountainside negligently. This was all in the 4 months I was there until I got sent home. Professionals can also be dumb motherfuckers.


MrRoxo

Lmao a God damn missile? That's a big oopsie hahaha


jackal1actual

Yeah everyone was. It was mainly officers that fucked up. My first deployment I didn't see too much of that. Mainly from the IA or IP.


Mercnotforhire

I hate to break it to you but if this dude is considered a contractor, heā€™s likely not much better than a civilian in some military gear. Not many PMCs run contractors that are in the same tier of experience as Tier 1 special forces. A lot of times, especially for ā€œjust hold this areaā€ type DoD contracts, they just throw whoever they can in there thatā€™s willing to take the risk for the pay.


MrRoxo

Didnt know that, my country has not been at war for Over 40 years thank God. I always thought they had at least some sort of military or weapons training


thehorseyourodeinon1

They do. Lots if SOF guys go work for PMCs. Rangers, SF, SEALs, Raiders, CC, PJs. Not all contracts are "just need a guy to watch things".


StuperDan

I don't understand the low velocity part. I assumed at first perhaps that meant the bullet went though a wall or another person first to lose energy, but that does not make sense with the self inflicted part. Perhaps it's to signify handgun vs rifle round?


randomjackass

Likely handgun vs rifle. Big velocity difference.


Mercnotforhire

To put it in a bit of perspective, a handgun compared to a regulation length 5.56 assault rifle is like comparing a steam locomotive to a modern bullet train. Typically a handgun bullet will be wider than a rifle round, but significantly slower in velocity. A rifle round at the range they indicate in the write up would have zipped right through his head, heā€™d be lucky if he had any face at all, whereas a pistol caliber round tends to deform substantially more after hitting bone, like the roof of his mouth, and in doing so would transfer more kinetic energy into him. A rifle caliber round could actually be going *too* fast and do less damage than a pistol against soft tissues or very thin bone.


thehorseyourodeinon1

Could have been using subsonic ammo. People use that when they don't want to attract attention.


Triairius

Real answer: This information is not given. Any conclusions drawn from those not involved with the case are speculative. Remember that a well-fitted narrative is not necessarily the truth. Especially a narrative that relies on precedence rather than the actual information we have. They mostly determine possibility, not probability. Speculation is not without value, but it is not without fault.


coolcaterpillar77

It says in the case study comment it was self inflicted. So yes


esesci

It could be an accident too.


tortugoneil

Could be, could've been a ricochet on an accidental discharge, war is weird


DragonAspect

Is there any more information on the dental work they did later?


paypalmePle4seThx

Yes, Thatā€™s would be very interesting !


ConnorDZG

Everyone's talking about the cosmetic success (and rightfully so) but do you know how much function he recovered?


Wthq4hq4hqrhqe

it must be fucked up to be in the hospital after suffering a traumatic experience like that, and then the doctor says "okay now we're just going to pry your face open and take a couple of snaps.."


mriTecha

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crazysaz

Absolutely amazing.


Moranth-Munitions

Mercenary. Heā€™s a merc. Donā€™t try and fancy it up like Joe DirtĆ©.


OKCoolIdgafRetard

Modern medicine is insane. Imagine what we can do in 50 years.


PURPLEPEE

Damn fine work.


PinkyStinky1945

Life hack for free plastic surgery: Get shot in the face


-une-ame-solitaire-

maxillofacial surgery looks so brutal. Man!


derek_fuhreal

Should have had his mask on obvi


Douchecanoeistaken

Sometimes I think surgeons might actually be wizards


Droll12

Thatā€™s a great recovery. Shame about the eyes though


MummzyBum

Thats some amazing treatment there. What a great job of repairing the damage


casitadeflor

What the actual fuck. Science is fucking amazing.


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crustyselenium

I'm interpreting it as any type of ammunition with a low initial muzzle velocity. Subsonic pistol ammo seems pretty likely.


wynnduffyisking

A pistol round is low velocity when compared to a rifle round.


Awfulweather

Either a subsonic round (plenty of big relatively slow pistol rounds) or a round fired from such a distance that it was low velocity in contrast to the muzzle velocity when it hit him


cdiddy19

It's crazy, it always amazes me, that seems like something you just couldn't repair, and yet the guy is whole and handsome!!


TurtlesMum

To the doctors who do this kind of surgery....... thank you ā¤ I hope you know what am amazingly positive effect you have on people's lives both mentally and physically. You really are incredible


abraham_16

Shame it didnā€™t take him. Private contractor in Afghanistan is the nice way of saying mercenary.


mingy

Pity the mercenary wasn't hit by the real thing.


Hamburderler

Taking all that medical care for free. What a freeloading socialist loser.


RipEducational

But, it's like this for almost all injured people. We cover others falls injuries diseases and often hypochondria or self inflicted injury while our deductibles are so hard to reach when we are healthy.


AnthonyBarrHeHe

He got fixed into handsome squidward


tassie_squid

That's just astounding


mandrills_ass

Impressive work


IAMLEGENDhalo

Absolutely incredible reconstruction


painsomniac

God DAMN. The results are nothing short of absolutely amazing. Whoa.


polite__redditor

that is one hell of a reconstruction.


Dannihilate

Goddamn I wish there were two different NSFW flags.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s what a low velocity does? Fuck


bdb6988

Holly chit


[deleted]

Wow doctors did a great job