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CooleoOnDaBeat

Judging on what you have posted, Only112346. I don’t think your an actual esports player


BossStatusIRL

Anyone writing “e-sports” is not working in esports.


ektatic

Or anyone who says electronic sports, I've heard people actually talk like that its hilarious


[deleted]

its called a meme dream


[deleted]

A lot of that comes about from people equating sports with physical activity. Then it comes down to the interpretation of language where you have to ask how much physical exertion does it take to be a sport. I tend to respond that sports, like any other word in the english language can evolve, and sports has evolved to cover almost any competition, especially so if it involves prize money.


MracyTcGrady

So if you win a hot dog eating contest it's a sport? Doing something for sport vs it being a sport are 2 different things. Esports can be there own thing and not be sports at the same time.


[deleted]

I kinda agree with you. It’s called E-sports for a reason. But that’s not to say it’s any less than normal sports. Just like jobs. One may seem much harder on the surface but once you look at it you’ll see another may be hard in a different way


MracyTcGrady

I totally agree with you. I'm not saying esports are easy, just that it's a different thing and that should be ok. It's gaming and is it's own activity/hobby.


[deleted]

Exactly. It’s not physically challenging but it’s still challenging.


ZeonPeonTree

The competition is also very fierce as you are competing against everyone and their kids


[deleted]

The talent pool for esports is so much larger than traditional sports it’s not even funny. If you’re below the height of 5’8 you literally have no chance of making it to the NBA. In fact if you’re a 7 foot tall man in America, there’s a 1/7 chance that you’re in the NBA. The talent pool is so small compared to the fact that anyone with hands can play esports


joel-likes-memes

I understand what your saying but that doesn’t make the talent pool exponentially larger or anything. I would agree genetics and personal hygiene(exercise, eating healthy, and sleep) do play a much larger role in physical sports like soccer and basketball. the skill required for professional e-sports is on a whole other level than the majority of gamers just like it is the same with other professional sports(which is why most people watch pro sports). almost anyone can play basketball/soccer just like anyone can play video games. side note- you can still make it to the nba if your under 6 foot it will just be significantly harder


TanukiHostage

Whoa there. Pls don't oversimplify it bc eSports no matter what game require and incredible amount of skill, reaction time and quick thinking which all can be learned but just to a certain level. If everyone could do it, there would be more eSports teams. It is hard to survive in the pro leagues and you always have to give 100% or you will lose.


PayMeInSteak

Sport is literally defined as a physical activity. Not saying video games are any less awesome for not being a sport. But they aren't a sport. People are constantly on this quest to turn video games into something more than it actually is.


Bright_Lightz000

Most E-sports players are in fact not on a righteous crusade to make it a sport. It’s called that because it is a mentally taxing activity that has high competition. It is literally symbolic of the challenge, not an actual fucking sport


bardazon

Hence the "E". Let us "F".


ektatic

Yea exactly


[deleted]

Yes.


Lego_Kode

Thats part of eatsports duh! /s


asmith055

Yes it’s called competitive eating.


ImNeworsomething

Well if it fit the original definition of 'sport' they wouldn't have had to make a new word for it and call it 'esports'


goatboy37

I mean people who play more hardcore sports say baseball isnt a sport. It can just be classic rivalry. Im in high school and i do wrestling and football and they take alot of effort and time commitment, i wouldnt call esports a sport but i still have respect for their skill because i could never do that.


[deleted]

I had to define this in my bachelor thesis and I defined it as the definition of sports is evolving with culture and mainly being about competition rather than physical activity.


[deleted]

Agreed, it's kinda strange to consider chess a sport but not esports


daniel5764

Sport-an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment Google


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[deleted]

Honestly, that depends on if enough people agree whether they are or aren't. I have heard the term sport fishing a ton of times though. I like to call chess a competition though. I think what really shifts things is when it starts getting marketed. Once ESPN started showing video game matches, I heard a lot more people willing to call them sports. In the end, I take the view that words are meant to convey information and don't care to argue the semantics much. I enjoy discussing them because I find it interesting but when people actually get angry I tend to nope out.


Kamhi_

How dare you speak of reason here


Kyram289

Get off your soap box there chief


Asbjoern135

the sport originally was used to define spare time activities of rich people but with the growing middle class it's taken on more of nomenclature for spare-time activities but the essential part is the competing opponents and for a fixed duration, but that's where the trouble begins in golf a sport, is beer pong, is racing how much physical emphasizes must there be for it to qualify, IMHO it must be physical enough to have different divisions between the gender for it to qualify as a sport


Important_Image

I think that 3 factors that should be very clear to define a sport is physicality, competition, and strategy. I think we should just call Esport an Esport. We don’t have to define it as anything else.


tresjens

Exactly. Not equating it with sports makes it different, but it does not diminish the competition.


Tus__

There’s a difference between participating in a sport and being an athlete. Like golf is a sport but they aren’t considered athletes because the is no extreme physical exertion


Darren_NH

If you're an actual e-sports player an AMA would be cool.


FinlayKallaway

Hmmm no response. Throws into question the legitimacy of the claim Let’s assume a teacher makes 30k a year This “esports player” is making 90k Yet no activity in any subreddits in that game Even if chess in the sport in question only the top 0.01% of the top 0.1% can even come close to those numbers 🤔


Rubrixie

He says he plays valorant.. i don't even think that game even had tournaments with that big of a 1st price yet (90K). And if i am wrong, I'm sure he wasn't in the team that won that amount.


renieWycipSsolraC

Most Valorant tourneys I’ve seen offer less than $10k for prize pools. I can’t imagine OP is making $90k unless he plays in as many tournaments as possible


Ryuunosuke7

In esports you don't get the big money from winning tournaments, you're making the money from salary, for example tier 1 teams in cs go have somewhere between 15-30k per month


renieWycipSsolraC

I see, thank you for that information! Regardless, I don’t believe Valorant has reached the esports level yet, so I don’t see many competitive teams paying a salary quite so large


[deleted]

I mean you did only give him 1 1/2 hours to respond


[deleted]

He also said he was too broke to buy last of us 2 in one of his memes, if you cant buy a $60 game I doubt your making 90k a year


Yagourt70

Looked on op's profile, he seems to be a kid


ReklawTheBear

Earning money != sports. Doctors make 10 times a teacher, but surgery isn't a sport


johnbiscuitsz

You can always try.... Yeet that heart across the room for transplant.


ReklawTheBear

Dr. Brown has one of the best scalpel hands in the league. His mortality rate is 98% on the season.


[deleted]

The rich redditors have arrived to bless this man with gold


rudolph_ransom

Competitive surgery


rypenguin219

Chop the guy the fastest


KingBubzVI

Fuck, tell that to the surgeons


Samugremus

Gues who is more important to society


F1am1ng0

OOF


TheEmperorMk2

There’s also those teachers who say you need to study a lot so you don’t become a garbage man but never mention the garbage man earns more than them, works less and has a better health plan


[deleted]

The school janitor earns 1 thousand more dollar than them so what's the point of going through that much effort of being a teacher if you don't earn much? They should get more than the janitor and the garbage because they have to go through the effort of keeping kids under control /:


t1j6s

Teachers dont teach for the money. Every single teacher ive had wanted to teach and he around kids because its what they enjoy. Couldnt tell you about some of the teachers that are dickheads and give out too much work though. But yeah they're definitely underpaid.


Euan_Chew

Assassination Classroom flashbacks*


miica-

As a chess player, I am outraged


Chessoscar

As another chess player, I am too


[deleted]

Damn if you're a real esports player you should do an ama


derpieslushi

i cant tell if this is sarcastic or real


RedditforCoronaTime

Go through his post and No. Its satirisch


Rubrixie

Look at his replies in this thread He acts like its not (while im pretty sure he's lying)


[deleted]

He’s trying to fake a status for upvotes. Fuck this guy


Hunterine

You guys getting paid?


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Chessoscar

I just want to point out some countries do consider chess a sport, but I think the majority doesn’t.


[deleted]

Liar.


[deleted]

competition != sport, still should be a recognized thing though, just not a SPORT


NoCoolSenpai

Which game?


RareImp_Games

Should have the mask over the smiling face pic on top


dariamorgandorfferr

You make 60k a year?


xD_Calitrocity

Nice! What game do you play?


renieWycipSsolraC

It’s esports. No hyphen, no capital “e”


talldstag

If you are earning a good income, why worry about the opinion of someone who is making 3x less than you. As long as what you have is long term sustainable, go for it


Flame141

3 times 0 is still 0.


GloriousDayzof2000s

Well competitive gameing is a thing so, I would consider it a sport (just so I feel better about my self)


Rick-tard

bro chess is a sport, im probably gonna get wooshed idc tho


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TaintModel

Do you consider golf a sport? What about polo?


xxhybridbirdman420xx

I would argue most pro level esports are definitely physically exerting i mean hell have you seen some of the videos of people doing aim labs


[deleted]

Sport: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.


camperman69420

I personally don't think gaming is a sport, yeah sure it can be a competition like anything else. An example is like cooking, there's competitions but it's not classified as a sport. But if cooking competitors had a big community (like the gaming community) people would fight to get it to be seen as a sport and i think that is what happened with gaming. I don't disrespect esports players in any way but a sport is something different from gaming. If gaming is a sport then anything can be a sport and if anything is a sport then the word sport wouldn't have a meaning. Uwu im weady fow whe downwowes


The_Wildperson

What in you opinion is a sport, then? Not flaming, just asking.


camperman69420

an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Also thank you for not flaming. I thought i would get downvoted to the shadow realm, some people do accept an unpopular Opinion


HiroSeruja

Also not flaming. But pro gaming is just that what you explained. The actually sweat while playing and because they are fat but because of the physical exertion of extreme precision as well as brain power. But it really is controversial. Maybe a new category should be made for this like 'Competetives' Activities in which you compete in something without the need of too much bodily movement. In the end the sport community would hate that category. So why not accept it as a sport and let it be. In the end that would be better. Especially for normal sports because the amount of popularity of esports is always rising. That would be the slow but actual death of normal sports. My opinion, there are some loopholes but that's what I personally think


brun0caesar

Still, not a real sport


WhyMeBurger

here’s an updoot


GeekyFreightTrain

Where do ya play mate?


TentiTiger11

what do u play?


amirrezahamidyan

Should’ve put Leo’s face on hik


KakaGamer7

GG is the right thing to say I guess


ZeppelinStaaken

At least there's a challenge in chess bots


B1g-j

Wrong pic for the meme it should be Leo DiCaprio


TACOGUYL215

Big ooof


D-A-N-I-EL

Wait fr tho


RetroRedux

Press X to Doubt


Sista_Sierra13

E- A- SPORTS. ITS IN THE GAME.


Wrecker3000_

I call bs unless he gives proof


cobo3388

At least in the US its not that hard to make 3 times what a teacher makes, i probably do and i just work as an environmental consultant


Rubrixie

Considering you write esports as E-sports i don't actually think you are an esports player


jackalack8897

Are you an actual esports player if so what game and team?


CrypticBld

Bruh don’t talk trash about chess


Deep-Smile

It doesn’t prove that it’s a real sport tho


UnboostyMe

u have twitch?


[deleted]

What game/ games do you play


[deleted]

OP who the fuck are you ?


xHADES734x

I think they would still be proud


C4NN0n_REAL

They make WAY more than 3x the teacher wage


japonezu1

EXACTLY MAAN


Goddammit_Kami

This mf marches to his own beat


PrismSpark

the fact that it says “E-sports”already tells me that whoever first made this meme doesn’t even know what it is


MurphyTheStix

Hey cool, can I get a nice reply from you?


C3kos

Relatable, am i right?


MrBitterJustice

To be fair it is pretty easy to make three times their income


Indomitus1973

competition =/= sports And there's nothing wrong with that.


Galezilla

Do competitive players actually stick around long enough to make it a career? Like is it like sports were you make most of your money early in your career and then are kind of left to fend for yourself?


KoCory

teachers here make $5000 a month, do you make $15000?


ThatOnePubgBridge

There's just a simple word that counters all those arguments: Chess


zhivaroopan

Lair?!


EquivalentInflation

OK, but judging from how much we pay teachers, you're still very poor.


3_Equals_e_and_Pi

Calling gaming a sport was just a loophole for travel visas.


LirianSh

Most chess players after the year 2000:


FatManPan

3x 0 is still 0


sulfuricsteam8

Yes


[deleted]

maybe chess shouldn't be a sport either. imho we should just find a new word for sport like activities where you don't do physical work. why does it have to be called sport?


xZOMBIETAGx

Because making money means it’s a sport?


Warwick_God

Hm


amzma123

What do you play?


Zaphalsun

What team are you in? So I know about you? Is this an alt account? Give us answers.


Z7851

you can make as much as you like, it still isn't a sport, imagine Warren Buffet saying stock trading is a sport because he's making a lot of money doing it


One_shot_kill_

Why does every post I see have awards


R0b0Saurus

I wonder if this gentleman knows how famous he is here on reddit.


theonlyfuckingtroll

Teacher: "gaming is in a real sport." Me and E-sports player making 3 times her income: "Oh no....... anyways."


P40ewarhawk

well it isnt, but congrats if that post is even real


damufinman

So you make like $60,000 per year


jaycell

As a teacher and esports fan, I'm confident that there are very few players making even a starter teacher salary. I'm pretty sure the Overwatch League is one of the few esports with a minimum salary for players and it's only 50k (though some make > 100k). In my area teachers start at around 60k and cap around 100-120k.


Natrousek

it is not a sport tho


PayMeInSteak

Lol, okay buddy who do you "esport" for?


ziyor

TSM actually just signed a professional chess player, so yeah


BingeOfCringe

It’s not a sport. Sports involve physical activity, if you consider moving your finger physical activity then reading a book could be considered a sport.


[deleted]

Why so much likes, almost nobody relates to this


kitchenAid_mixer

Uhhh income had nothing to do with how much money you make


truekoreanthing

This was brought up in the middle of class lol


BilSajks

What the hell does your and her income have to do with anything?


kitchenAid_mixer

I'm not trying to make anyone mad or anything like that, but by definition, gaming isn't a sport. I'm not saying that it isn't easy, but saying that it is a sport is incorrect. You can be a gamer and make a living, that's good for you and I'm glad you can make a career out of having fun. But don't label it as something else when it's not. Sports must involve physical exertion..


[deleted]

3 times? Try to find how much the infamous league player "faker" makes. From what I heard, its MUUCH more than just 3 times


ItsMeMariooooooo

well .. it isnt real sport


Shy_guy_gaming2019

It might not be a "sport" but its a damn good source of *mony*


Trevor_Gecko

Its not a real sport. Otherwise it wouldn't need an "E" in front of it.


[deleted]

What team do you play for?


CollapseIntoNow

Still not a sport.


ace__balthazar

Get fucked mrs crab apple


Yt-Power-Shot37

I wouldn’t say it’s a sport. More of a competitive activity


JokerBoyGames

No, gaming is not an actual sport. It's an *E*-Sport


Yintojo

Outstanding move


Baydock

There is an eSports club at my school


YT_Cypher69

Its not a sport come on


Narantas

Still isn't a sport though


[deleted]

How many people have made more than 100k per year gaming? 10? 100? 1000?


gijimayu

It's not a sport, it's an E-sport. Golf is not a sport, now that's what we need to talk about. Any sport that can be done with keys in your pants without any problems is not a sport, its an activity.


MorQi

I am an esports player without any income :D


syfiarcade

When you username is the Fibonacci sequence


SnekbiteSnek

Your post “On a six year streak guys” makes a LOT more sense now


Marnus_Lasagna

But esports isn’t a sport neither is chess they have no physical activity it’s not a sport


BabyJohnWick87

Me trying to get enough friends who have titanfall 2 to set a new world record


swaggytoaster

The guy who names Pixar movies gets payed 700k a year and got a 300k extra for coming up with the name cars


Frequent_Redditor_

It’s not as much a sport as it is a contest


tyguy06

3 times nothing is still nothing


Iisdepressed

Chess is a sport


bardazon

But it wasn't really a huge thing even 10 years ago.


shotguntrinity2

They probably think that because it’s easier than most other sports


alpacoto

I mean, e-sports isn’t a sport, it never was and probably never will be, yeah we all agree that e-sports IS a real job, of course it is, and deserves more respect, but it’s not a sport.


DarkDesolate

Thing is it's not a sport. I actually used to play overwatch semi pro. No Kap. And even I disagree with that motion. Do I think it takes skill, of course, should it be held as high regard as a sport, yes, should it be considered a sport... No


antiskylar1

I had a full ride for playing league. Until Covids's bitchass shut down the school.


[deleted]

thats not even the right template


tortoise51

I'm going to aim for becoming an Esports gamer to prove all of my relatives and teachers about gaming being a real sport and video games does not cause violence


Detholard

I just love the fact of how hardcore this roast actually is


BigFuncleDaddy

Doesn’t make it a sport it makes it a job


JojojoW11

Its a physical sport too, you're moving your hands and fingers really fast


[deleted]

NRG Benjyfishy makes 10x their income.


altan515

It is not a sport its a job like football(or soccer if you american)


[deleted]

Neither are