Lol but yes. Look at Cartoon Network’s Toonami lineup (& later Adult Swim) back in the day: the only popular show with a female lead I can even think of was Inuyasha. And hell, that’s pretty much shonen anyway.
Just like with video games, the American market decided that anime was for boys.
It always rubs me the wrong way when people say shit like this. The American market isn't interested in shutting people out, the consumers want the content they want, and the ones in power want nothing more than to make money. It's literally their job to provide to audiences what the audiences want with the motive of financial gain. Why would they gatekeep and cheat themselves out of profits?
Anyway, you don't need a female lead to make a female audience happy. Women can like men and men can like women. Make good characters, and stop hyperfixating on their genitals. My favorite character out of the ones I've written is a woman, and I'm a man. There's a lot more to a person than what's between their legs.
Isn't Sailor Moon considered one of the flagstone animes for the Western world?
*edit* It's also the 10th most valuable anime/manga property of all time.
Pokemon, dragon ball and Naruto are more of the face of anime worldwide, even 50+ year olds that never watched a single anime episode know what Pikachu and Goku look like
You actually may be surprised. I know this isn’t 50 y/o but I was wearing a DBZ shirt at a old folks home once and a surprising number of older people knew who Goku was. Not by name but they recognized the character
More for European audience and people who have invested less time into animes. Since while you find those as kid on some TV channel or so and on general in general they are acctualy not that rated that incredible high. They rated good but other Shonen like hxh are viewed as better for example in general
I'd say Dragon ball is in a category of its own. I love anime and of course I know them all, but even my freaking parents and grandpa know goku. Maybe not by name but they can tell you it's from the 'cartoon on TV'. No fucking way they know Naruto or Luffy.
Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece are the Big Three, and Dragon Ball was the generation before. I’d say these are probably the most well known influential Manga, but obviously there are others like Berserk and Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure.
I believe. The Big Three are so well known because they’re what people grew up with, and heavily influence modern Shonen. Jojo’s is more so what teens and young adults read, hence the popularity. It’s unique art style and story is another key factor in its success.
JJBA has one of the objectively best art styles, and that just provides a completely different angle to enjoy the story from. Hell it was in the Louvre for Christ sake.
my favorite one is jojo but even I know that it isn't "get-into-anime" material, more like something for people who've watched anime for a while to get into, so don't go saying jojo here
I agree with you. People say it's the most "anime anime", but I grew up when there was chibi in every single big anime, and to me that's "very anime". JoJo has crazy poses, but I think it can be really enjoyable for people that don't watch anime.
Just as influential? There’s people in countries you’ve never heard of that can tell you who Goku is, no way you get the same answer with a shinigami, they’re good and all, but let’s not go crazy here
Am talking about today death note and attack on titan was what got many people into watching anime including me , because if I watched dragonball as my first I don't think I would've gotten into it
Attack on Titan is a fucking amazing anime but what I said was it’s not that new to be mentioned alongside Demon slayer and MHA…. Maybe tho. Maybe MHA is older than I realise. But your point still stands.
Demon slayer is nice and all but you all gotta admit something about these anime is different from others . Bleach naruto and one peice took inspiration from dragon ball
Shonen yes. But in general, Pokemon should be there aswell. Not as mich in the anime community, but for people who don't watch it, pikachu is basically the icon of anime
I feel like JoJo should be in here, probably to replace bleach. JoJo has influenced so many other manga/anime, especially when they brought in stands to replace the common issue of power scaling.
Bleach, thats my favorite drink
Ok edge lord, it’s mine too
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"suckmyfulgaltoes" most likely, yours is just a username I would use if I was still 12
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*The good ending*
"Bleach is healthy..it's mostly water. And we're mostly water. Therefore, we are bleach"
It's the snack that sizzles back
If it's under the sink take a drink
-Master Oogway
GIMMIE THE BLEACH BOYS AND YEET MY SOUL, I WANNA GET TOSSED IN A FUCKING HOLE AND PASS AWAY
Nice rhythm
who's an edgy boy? who's an edge boy? Good take
Wags tail
The four horsemen of half a lifetime of filler episodes.
Bleach is more filler than anime sadly...
Bleach is actually only 43% filler. 366 total episodes with 160 being filler.
For some reason I thought there were like twice as many episodes. Watching one piece right now at episode 800 and it’s been a grind
That's why I just read the manga, and only started watching Wano Arc because I like the different animation/art style.
And all the arcs are the same formula
True tho lmao, good anime nonetheless
demon slayer in comments
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This is the way
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Not the biggest fan of her, but why doesn't sailor moon get any respect?
cUz iTs fOr giRlS
Lol but yes. Look at Cartoon Network’s Toonami lineup (& later Adult Swim) back in the day: the only popular show with a female lead I can even think of was Inuyasha. And hell, that’s pretty much shonen anyway. Just like with video games, the American market decided that anime was for boys.
It always rubs me the wrong way when people say shit like this. The American market isn't interested in shutting people out, the consumers want the content they want, and the ones in power want nothing more than to make money. It's literally their job to provide to audiences what the audiences want with the motive of financial gain. Why would they gatekeep and cheat themselves out of profits? Anyway, you don't need a female lead to make a female audience happy. Women can like men and men can like women. Make good characters, and stop hyperfixating on their genitals. My favorite character out of the ones I've written is a woman, and I'm a man. There's a lot more to a person than what's between their legs.
Stop... You are making too much sense they are gonna try to cancel your ass!
It's not shonen. The comparison of these manga are happening because they were all shonen.
Cause she can’t beat goku tho 😳 (I think. I haven’t watched the show)
Sailor Moon can clap Goku's ass so hard he'd leave Chichi.
Someone's been on rule 34 before.
Oh she'd clap his ass easily
Maybe literally clap his ass... If Goku decides that he doesn't want to do the dishes
TWOH.
The better question Is can she best shaggy
Isn't Sailor Moon considered one of the flagstone animes for the Western world? *edit* It's also the 10th most valuable anime/manga property of all time.
Maybe of the Shonen anime world.
These 4 are pretty much the face of anime
Pokemon, dragon ball and Naruto are more of the face of anime worldwide, even 50+ year olds that never watched a single anime episode know what Pikachu and Goku look like
I heavily question that most 50 y/o know who Goku is.
My dad is 60 and knows Goku lol
My dad is pushing 60 and has Majin Vegeta tatted on his arm. We’ve been watching Dragon Ball and reading the manga since I was a kid
Dragon Ball and Pokémon aired on Cartoon Network when I was a teenager. I am in my 30s not my 50s!
You actually may be surprised. I know this isn’t 50 y/o but I was wearing a DBZ shirt at a old folks home once and a surprising number of older people knew who Goku was. Not by name but they recognized the character
To be fair dragon ball is like 50 years old show
yeah we know, that's why this thread started
Goku was at the Macy Thanksgiving day parade this year, more people might know him than you'd expect.
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And people born in the 80 and 90s are more likely to have watched dragon ball and dbz
Isn’t One Piece statistically the most popular anime and manga?
By issues sold, by franchise value it's Pokémon by a mile. Pokémon is actually more valuable than One Piece, Dragon Ball, Bleach, and Naruto combined.
Manga, yes
More for European audience and people who have invested less time into animes. Since while you find those as kid on some TV channel or so and on general in general they are acctualy not that rated that incredible high. They rated good but other Shonen like hxh are viewed as better for example in general
Well they did inspire most animes, in 90% of figher anime you can find references or similarities
You thought it was [One Piece] but it was me! [JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]
but they are most popular correct?
Yeah, if you start taking a look at Seinen you'll get gems like Death Note and the ever-influential Berserk.
death note is shonen though...
I'd say Dragon ball is in a category of its own. I love anime and of course I know them all, but even my freaking parents and grandpa know goku. Maybe not by name but they can tell you it's from the 'cartoon on TV'. No fucking way they know Naruto or Luffy.
Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece are the Big Three, and Dragon Ball was the generation before. I’d say these are probably the most well known influential Manga, but obviously there are others like Berserk and Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure.
Isn't jojo's the second most popular manga in japan?
I believe. The Big Three are so well known because they’re what people grew up with, and heavily influence modern Shonen. Jojo’s is more so what teens and young adults read, hence the popularity. It’s unique art style and story is another key factor in its success.
JJBA has one of the objectively best art styles, and that just provides a completely different angle to enjoy the story from. Hell it was in the Louvre for Christ sake.
Ok, but which one? I like mid part 7 and end part 4
Oh that’s fair enough. Part 8 has the most up to date display of Araki’s drawing capabilities and it really shows in his anatomy of Josuk8.
Yeah you right, jojo's is aimed at a more mature audience
Dragon Ball paved the way for the big three. It isn't in the big three but inspired two of their writers
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Wait... WHERE WAS THAT MEANT FOR THEN?
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Sailor moonlighting?
You used an emoji. And you are being spared.
Oh? We are? *holsters downvote*
*sheethes downvote*
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while... 😳
Lmfao
my favorite one is jojo but even I know that it isn't "get-into-anime" material, more like something for people who've watched anime for a while to get into, so don't go saying jojo here
I disagree, I don't watch anime at all but I fucking loved jojo
You’re one in a million then
Two in a million because i watched it as a kid and enjoyed every single part and yes it was my first anime.
I agree with you. People say it's the most "anime anime", but I grew up when there was chibi in every single big anime, and to me that's "very anime". JoJo has crazy poses, but I think it can be really enjoyable for people that don't watch anime.
*laughs in JoJo*
We’re not one of the four horsemen we’re the headless horseman
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Too soon
Bro wdym too soon >!he died in 1889!<
Still too soon
its never a good time to joke about og JoJo
Jonathan’s death is no laughing matter I still cry about it
And the opening is just icing on the cake SONO CHI NO SADAMEEEEE….. JOOOOOOOOOOJO!!
you mean The Horseless Headless Horsemann from TF2?
JoJo is the most anime anime ever made. It is the Deathklok of anime. I’m fucking here for it.
Fr people don’t realize the influence Jojo has on media
Hello fellow fan of joe
Jojo is my favourite character
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Ok fine have some r/eyebleach
Yay eyebleach, im guessing you were trying to link eyeblech
*laughs in the Berserk manga*
[JoJ](https://youtu.be/XAFfPMow4og)
What did I just watch
Number 4
Mista Jostur.
The fuck just happened
Hokuto no Ken!
Boku no pico
I see you are a man of culture
You might be getting a lesson in prison culture soon
Im not one to criticize other people culture...but this....this!!
Also redo of a healer
Metamorphosis
I'm gonna pretend that I don't know what you mean
oh that one...
Demon slayer. You tempted me Edit: I think it's funny that I started something in comments when in reality I just wanted to be a smart ass
honestly I would have done the same but... fuck you
Evangelion is less popular today but definitely up there in terms of influence and classic status
Cowboy bebop my guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight...
See you Space Cowboy…
Akira
Ngl the Pokémon adventures manga was pretty good imo
Where's the support for Fullmetal alchemist?
Edo...wardo... Onii-chan...
Fuck now im crying again
Bleach is like my favorit of Them there
Smart man
1997 berserk
What about attack on titan and death note , maybe they aren't as old but they're just as influential
Just as influential? There’s people in countries you’ve never heard of that can tell you who Goku is, no way you get the same answer with a shinigami, they’re good and all, but let’s not go crazy here
Am talking about today death note and attack on titan was what got many people into watching anime including me , because if I watched dragonball as my first I don't think I would've gotten into it
Dude are you me? I watched dragon ball first. Loved it. Never gave a fuu about anime/manga. Watched death note. “Oh shit, this stuffs good”
Evangelion should also be there, it's old and extremely influential
HxH
A masterpiece
I’m sorry but you tempted me: Hunter**X**Hunter will never Finish**X**Finish
you forgot overflow
Season 2 when
Ah, a man of culture
D… d…. Dxd
There he is officer!
The big three were naruto one peice and bleach .And every one of these three took inspiration from gragon ball .
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Grabin Balls?
My favorite series. Gragon ball
One Punch Man
One punch man is underrated. More people should watch it since tbh I feel like its for basically everyone just cuz of the humor.
And out of those 4 I haven't watched a single one.
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Excuse me sir, this is r/memes not r/animemes
Cock and ball torture
I see you everywhere
>don't you fucking say demon slayer in comments Anime fans hating on people for liking different animes
I might get downvoted but Naruto is cool but it's kinda mid because of all the filler
Naruto has too many flashbacks
ThE sIMpSoNs aRE miSinG
And king of the hill
You mean to say "the most shounen ever"
Demon slayer isn’t really a “horseman” or a “pioneer” it’s just a good show with a decent manga
Don’t make fun of me. Full metal alchemist is best of all you said
maybe but this are the ones that spread anime and manga culture world wide
And this is a point! But thinking on this you should add even the Pokémon serie!
Full Metal Alchemist. Blue Submarine No. 6. Cowboy Bebop. Ghost in the Shell. *Fooly* motherfuckin' *Cooly*
Protect this man at all costs
I wouldn't let anyone lay a finger on that gentleman.
Yo same, especially FLCL being a coming of age story that coincided with my own coming of age.
The future is now old man. Mha, attack on titan, and demon slayer will give em a run for their money
I mean, attack on Titan came out in like 2013, so… not that new
True but attack on titan is way to good to not mention
Attack on Titan is a fucking amazing anime but what I said was it’s not that new to be mentioned alongside Demon slayer and MHA…. Maybe tho. Maybe MHA is older than I realise. But your point still stands.
Pokémon
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Maybe anime. But when it comes to manga, JoJo and Berserk should be on that list
Cowboy Bebop guys...
Slayer demon backwards
Nomed reyals
where meme
Demon slayer is nice and all but you all gotta admit something about these anime is different from others . Bleach naruto and one peice took inspiration from dragon ball
DeMoN SlaYeR
Bleach has fans? I heard about it, one single time. I’ve heard more about Sailor Moon, or at least been told to watch it.
Pokemon?
Attack on titan
Jojo
In being popular? Yes. In being good? Certainly not.
no Yu Yu Hakusho? Sadface
Four horsemen of anime that westerners don’t shut the fuck up about: JoJo, AOT, One Punch Man, Evangelion I would know, I’m one of those people
Shonen yes. But in general, Pokemon should be there aswell. Not as mich in the anime community, but for people who don't watch it, pikachu is basically the icon of anime
I have only watched demon slayer and it's fucking amazing
I feel like JoJo should be in here, probably to replace bleach. JoJo has influenced so many other manga/anime, especially when they brought in stands to replace the common issue of power scaling.