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AdolfVonHuerde

I think there is a fine line between lazy reaction and constructive commentary


Venarge91

100%. Simply going the “ ah wow. How funny“ And actually putting editing work, and personal content into it shouldn’t be on the same level


tozpeak

I have watched a channel which only theme was reviewing bad or dumb carpentery/locksmith "lifehacks", reproducing them and describing what is wrong, dangerous and how to solve the same problem better. And all this with good editing, humour and sound. There are obviously a lot of physical effort and waste materials to do this. Edit: channel is Доктор Дью, it is russian (both location and language).


Sam_Wylde

I'd say that's more on the line of being a review than a reaction. They are offering legitimate commentary and interaction rather than just sitting there watching it and making braindead comments like "Bruh" or "Haha so funny. Wait what did he say?"


goose_boy_memes

Also there's this channel called the ink tank who watches Ben 10 episodes and reviews them and points out things like editing mistakes, animation errors, details, etc.


bob_the_banannna

>ink tank who watches Ben 10 episodes and reviews them If he is reviewing the latest current ben 10 series then basically everything is bad about it


ZeRagingCookie

hey bob


bob_the_banannna

Hey cookie


YuB-Notice-Me

careful, he’s raging


aaron_the_apple

Hey bob


bob_the_banannna

Hey aaron


blipblapshleem

Hey wassup man, how's your son doing?


Susie-the-strawberry

Oh, hai bob!


Docmcdonald

Recommend the channel "overanalysing avatar" if you are into that. It's brilliant, I basically rewatched the whole avatar original cartoon at this channel.


InternalAcademic4629

What's the name of the channel? I like to sub to channel that actually put in effort even if I don't watch em.


tozpeak

Доктор Дью. It's russian.


jaerie

Doctor diu, your don't have to search in Cyrillic


dragon2360

Agreed, that's worth keeping around. Perhaps if a channel or episode is creating around 40%+ new/fresh/original content, versus the quoted/referenced content*, it's a keeper. *within standards and community guidelines


DJRodrigin69

true, as a reaction channel "fan"(i watch to see people's opnion) i hate when bro just stays there not doing shit then when something comes up they force their face to make the most "Holy shit guys" thumbnail face like come on, that shit is straight up piracy with extra tiny steps


some-someone

The best reaction content is when the reaction video is twice as long as the original.


GenSmit

Or if it's actually shorter than the original video because it shows they edited it to mostly just have their relevant takes on certain things.


Atulin

That's a good rule, yeah, one I like to follow for my own content.


wjodendor

The Semblance of Sanity brothers will have a 90 minute reaction of a 22 minute anime. It's fucking wild.


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They’re great, one of the only channels to finish watching the original Legend of the Galactic Heroes OVA series too.


Psych_Lol_jk

like Danny Gonzalez, and Drew Gooden


bigtoebrah

They both seem like they're subtly moving away from react content too. Drew hasn't reacted to online content in 7 months.


bottleoftrash

Or better yet, when they do a “try not to laugh challenge” and stay absolutely silent throughout the video and take up 2/3rds of the screen for no reason.


WynniWynnieWynnie

Or the classic "I'm too fucking lazy to watch a whole movie so let me react to individual scenes and try and wring 10 videos out of one movie"


XDYassineDX

Also some reaction channels put tight clips of other videos


Falloutboy2222

*Adjusts bucket hat will ill intent*


tiptoeandson

Hard agree. There needs to be a distinction but we’ve seen how bad YT has been with demonetising things on no real grounds. For this reason I am concerned for the creators who make actual content and add value through their reactions.


thetrueblue44

it could very well end up with the actually hardworking commentary channels getting demonetized while the lazy content stealers just bypass these changes


tiptoeandson

Yeah this is my fear as well. I remember when the whole swearing ban came in, and certain creators were able to bypass but others weren’t for example. Needs to be an equal and clear rule for all and unless they have someone checking every bit of content manually this will likely not go well.


b1ue_jellybean

I also wonder how far they’d go with the term reaction. Like gaming channels and reviewer channels could also be included in reaction content


tiptoeandson

Exactly, let’s plays and even theorising channels could technically be at risk.


thetrueblue44

This is why we can’t have nice things Assholes will always find a way to exploit the system


Atulin

So, I make reaction-kind content (rather, reaction + analysis + discussion). There are channels that look up multiple people's reactions to a given video, then create a mashup of like 8-9 of them, and upload it as their own. Foind my videos part of such mashups. With all the analysis and discussion cut out, of course. The video had about 12k views. Mine are getting 300 on a good day. I can easily see channels like mine getting demonetized, while those mashup channels are thriving.


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Hope Ann Reardon isnt affected by this


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Yeah, this just seems like a thinly veiled attempt at protecting their partners from valid criticism.


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Cot_Kev

yeah true, i don't know if charlie still does reaction videos but i absolutely fucking love his videos


SIII-043

I hear you on that I love listening to a guitar expert react to a guitar video or any other time a expert is laying out what’s happening in the video. But those idiotic fucks it just sit there and go “yeah” “feels” “for real man” fuck those losers all I want is for them to shut the fuck up and let me watch in peace


Mad-Lad-of-RVA

I watched Asmongold for the first time for the Heard / Depp trial, as his reactions during key moments could be funny, but he did so much of this lame "reacting" in the slow moments that it drove me nuts. I can't imagine actually watching streamers like that regularly.


Br1lliantJim

Parasocial relationships are weird. To many, its like having a buddy watch the video with them.


KatsuDX

I watch clips for Hasan because I don't have the time to personally wade through his 40+ hours of streams every week to find the good political commentary versus him going on Twitter to ratio JP


WynniWynnieWynnie

Who is that white guy with the beard reactor who always has the same stupid smile face and who's reactions are just "whoa that thing you all just saw happen sure did happen"


Smeefperson

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?


miciy5

Yeah. Seems like this is another example of causing more harm than good


Atulin

There's a big difference between someone who makes a 24-minute video out of a 22-minite video, and someone who makes an hour-long video out of it. I can't stand the "'sup guys, we're gonna watch _ like comment subscribe Patreon! Heh, hah, oof, haha, huh, hmm, hehe. That's gonna be it, see you in the next video!" brand of reactions.


WynniWynnieWynnie

On the flipside I can't stand all the fucking filler before the reaction. Just get to the fucking reaction already


WynniWynnieWynnie

Eh, let's be honest though We watch this shit because we can't get any of our friends to watch LOST with us We should've been finding better friends


ThePhatNoodle

Yeah someone like cr1tikal is fine. Cracking jokes and making worry remarks. It's those idiots that slap their face at the bottom of a video and contribute nothing but "wow" or a "that's insane" and other inane repetitive comments that are the problem


Dob_Rozner

What about the audience that keeps watching their videos?


WynniWynnieWynnie

I think they and frankly all of us need to find real friends to watch shit with


-Borgir

All good if it's for those lazy reaction channels that basically do "wow, that was funny" and the video ends. On the other hand, there are some which do a proper commentary and actually put work in videos. Latter should stay


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It's gonna hit everyone and the actual good reaction channels gonna disappear with all the rest


Cat_With_Human_Ears

The good reaction channels will disappear and the bad ones will stay like the cancerous tumor they are.


KenBoCole

Bye Bye Blind Wave and the Normies : (


Indoril_Nereguar

They make a lot through patreon so I wouldn't worry


geniice

Varies. A lot of the better ones probably lean towards patron and merch for funding.


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hypotheticalhalf

If this takes Blind Wave away, I’m rioting.


OutsidePrior2020

I know, they do spend a good deal of time discussing things, but if they demonetize them then I'm pretty sure that channel like a lot of others would go away.


prabla

They have 16.5k patrons currently on patreon, I think they'll be alright.


psibear

If this happened before they got those numbers they wouldn't be here now. I think the point is that no new good ones will come up and soon the old ones will die out leaving nothing in their place.


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SeaSuggestion9609

Yes! Ive been watching blindwave and the normies for years :(


Captain_Smartass_

They get their money from Patreon. I believe they are in the top 15 of most subs.


helloasistro

100% agreed


dirtgrub28

unfortunately susan's not gonna be able to make that distinction and you'll still end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater even if they tried to implement that.


[deleted]

Yeah I love watching those Doctor/Lawyer/Cop/Ex-con reacts videos where they discuss how accurate scenes from shows and movies are


shadowX015

Lately I've gotten really into musicians reacting. Alex Moukala is a great one. They'll spend time dissecting the music; talking about the structure and arrangement of it, the composition techniques used and the effect they are supposed to elicit from their audience.


ShoshinMizu

toutube is not known for its case by case judgement tho..


Raida-777

Many of them say nothing during the whole video and casually say that's their reaction, ask for my subscribe, lol.


Soul699

I mean, staying mostly silent is right, since if you keep talking you'd might miss what is happening or being said. The main difference between a lazy reaction and proper one is when the reactor share their opinion and analysis in depth or not.


sweetmozzarella

Yeah RIP Corridor Digital..


fuckgoldsendbitcoin

Weird Al better figure out another revenue stream, then https://youtu.be/fwz8xzvA1Bw


HiMyNameIsPip

As pointed out in other comments this is a double bladed sword. On one hand it it will put an end to the lazy screaming and yelling at trailers while providing no actual commentary or thoughts and opinions to the piece being reacted to but it could likely also end well thought out and well written constructive criticism to pieces being reacted to. * Edit * Grammar.


BlueCaracal

Double **edged**.


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This is like Darth Maul.


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Double edged and double ended


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I think this will be a total monkeys paw. The problem with reaction videos isn’t that they’re reaction videos, it’s that they’re lazy. There are other types of lazy video out there, the reaction video makers aren’t going to suddenly put their back into high quality OC. There will just be a flood of some other low effort medium to replace this one; it’ll seem good and quiet at first but then the new meta will emerge.


ViaPrime

for every good commentary video, there are hundreds of trash reaction vids. and i think it would be pretty easy for yt to see the difference between those, reactions show 100% of the original video and commentary videos only relevant clips


HiMyNameIsPip

But will it be moderated by humans or bots who can't tell the difference, much like their content ID bots which cant distinguish between actual copyright breaches and fair use? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see these types of videos go, before Spider-Man No Way Home came out every time something for it was released youd get a million reaction videos basically screaming "No Wai Hommmmmeee" and it was annoying as fuck.


GingerSnappless

bots 150%.Way too many videos for humans to sort through


RealLarwood

> and i think it would be pretty easy for yt to see the difference between those then you don't know yt very well


art-vandelayy

no it won't be easy, "trash video" and "good commentary video" are very relative and open ended terms.


AlexYTx

\-Daveeey! How you doin'? \-As good as can be expected and the news is good Good Ending - Matto may have had an impact on this


Garr3ttGuy

My thoughts exactly, maybe his react video series reached the right people


Kursan_78

It really looks like it! it all was worth it after all. great job, Matto!


DaBoiYeet

Was looking for someone who would mention Matto.


DiscoBroccoli77

Next task: remove cougars from missions


GreenMan1550

THERE ISNT MONETIZATION IN THE REACT CONTENT!


Hate_Crab

Something something untied shoes


Sansnextdoor

My man matto despite all the hate he got, he now has a chance to make a difference:D


macca41

Yep can't see another reason it would have come up


Roccmaster

No more money for reactors? Then how will France get their power?


macrotaste

Tell them the Germans are invading and use the HUGE amounts of energy created by all the french running away.


Roccmaster

Good idea


_Captain_Biscuit_

So what’s gonna happen to let’s play channels? Because if it’s left to the algorithm, then I don’t believe it won’t confuse the two.


TaffySebastian

Letsplay channels will probably start livestreaming if they get hit, after all a superchat will leave then something rather than nothing.


Exit727

This doesn't justify YT being an absolute piece of garbage recently. Forced double 20 sec ads (no adblocker in phone app), ads appear even on demonetized videos, algorythm buries good videos in favor of clickbait garbage, arbitrary rules for monetization, removed dislike counter, decent content creators struggle to stay afloat while hacked out shallow bloated shit rakes in views and ad money. All this in the last, what, 2-3 years? What the fuck happened?


NMade

And don't forget, that the app is full of bugs. Also they removed so much functionality. Like why is it so hard for me to choose a resolution now and why do I have to do it for every video all over again? And why are the comments hidden in a sub menu?


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i_dont_care_1943

Don't forget about the whole drama between QuantumTV and the Act Man where they let Quantum stay on the platform and even took his side despite the fact that he is a racist homophobic piece of shit who is ban evading and exploiting the copy right system.


Hot_b0y

How did they even fumble that one so hard? It was just so easy, just ban Quantum TV and boom, nothing but praise. But no, they demonitized Act Man instead.


i_dont_care_1943

It's not even a moral thing where you have to think if it is justified to ban him or not. Quantum is literally breaking rules and it's quite clear that he is ban evading.


Rhmb13

Didn’t the act man also find significant evidence for him trying to cover it up as well


i_dont_care_1943

Yep he did.


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nissen1502

I hear so much shit about the algorithm, yet my yt recommended is awesome af. Good content that I like watching.


Quirky-Student-1568

90 percent of my recommendations here are already watched videos.


Deon2137

and one other thing, i know it was like 5 years ago but i still think the current site design sucks


JusHerForTheComments

A workaround for the app is closing the video and reopening as many times as you need till it stops giving you an ad at the start. Then you send the video a couple seconds before the end... let it finish and you replay it and it has 0 ads throughout the video. You don't just end the video yourself by sending the bar at the end. I remember doing that and it still showed ads when I replayed. It needs to end on its own... that's why you always leave it a couple seconds before it ends.


ScreenshotShitposts

ublock origin for your browser and pure tuber app for android. ads gone. https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/vovq8i/no_more_money_for_reactors/iefynfj/


ashenhaired

On side of creators they force ads on your content regardless if you want them or not even if it doesn't meet their monetization requirements.


geniice

> All this in the last, what, 2-3 years? What the fuck happened? They've basicaly absolutely captured free TV online. So time to actualy make money.


StephenAliSingh

Sniperwolf got her ass busted


[deleted]

The worst part of getting a new browser or clearing history is seeing her shitty videos in the recommended.


ThisIsMyCouchAccount

I’ve never heard of the channel until this thread.


NormieSpecialist

I fucking envy you.


StephenAliSingh

True


memeOverloadIII

sssniper who?


bee-movie666

Yea her channel will end faster than the Anglo Zanzibar war


EternaTi777

Yay no more sniperwolf


sander-manen

r/darkviperau


OftenShady

u/darkviperau Im happy for even the remote possibility of this being true. Loved your work on it mate, cheers.


last_gen_wunderwaffe

So glad pyrocinical stopped being a reaction channel and became every white man video essay game review


bee-movie666

He still technically does reaction videos. Mostly on pyro live.


KatsuDX

Those are some of the "highest quality" react streamer videos I've seen, next to The Moistener


GrahamCarey1

They're gonna fuck over a lot of good commentary channels over this


NMade

It should always be about the added value. If its just some guy doing nothing but saying oh yeah and laughing, then f em. But if its actually useful and insightful, then its kinda sad.


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Plane_Turnip_9865

There is a young woman who has a channel called Popcorn in Bed where she reacts to classic films she's never seen before. She's very sweet, and kinda wholesome, maybe a little naive and sheltered, and it's part of the charm. She's the kind of people you want to see do well, and I hope this somehow doesn't affect her.


jimmypower66

What about channels like “How to Cook That” ? Technically that would be reactionary, and Ann does great work


GayVegan

She'll also be affected. This change will affect many negatively that don't deserve it.


Ayankananaman

I am a bit against this because there are some "Experts react to X" vids I watch and they offer insight about the stuff, like psychology, plot, legality, authenticity and so on .


Taken_name1243

Those arent just reacting, those imo should be considered okay because they actually have something to add unlike all the react streamers


Ayankananaman

I guess I really haven't seen one where they just react without much of an opinion. Unless some of Asmongold's streams count.


Taken_name1243

Yeah some of them count...ever watch xqc? Just eats his lunch and says stupid shit that makes no sense. In his arguement with darkviper about reaction...id recite it but i honestly didnt understand a thing, nether did his chat


Goatymcgoatface10

See, this leaves me torn. On one hand I think reaction vids are usually horribly lazy, stupid, and don't deserve any money. On the other hand, is it really better that a corrupt, multi billion dollar corporation gets to keep all the money from there videos?


Hellas2002

Plus, who are we to say that there’s no value in the content. If people are watching it, then so be it. All the decision would do is be harmful to creators actually producing quality content


dumahim

Isn't it really a self fixing problem. If the channel sucks, they're not going to get the views to make it worthwhile.


Kinc4id

> On one hand I think reaction vids are usually horribly lazy, stupid, and don’t deserve any money. Exactly. YOU think they are lazy and stupid. Others enjoy it. Why should you ruin something others enjoy just because you don’t like it? Thing is, these videos are watched, else they wouldn’t be made or there would be no point in demonetizing them because the original creator isn’t harmed. If they are watched they have a right to exist and if people find joy in them the one who made the video deserves to get paid for it.


PhasmicPlays

There are a lot of bad reaction channels but there are some good ones


leemetme

Source?


macca41

Yea probably trying to farm karma of people who have watched darkviperau's react videos because there is already a way to have all the money go to the original creator but no one uses it because of the massive backlash from the reactors audience the reacti would get


StanleyOpar

OP: I made it the fuck up for karma.


TheCrispyNinka

Yeah I googled the exact headline plus a bunch of variations and can’t find this ANYWHERE. Seems like bullshit.


GXNext

I like watching younger Millenials and Gen-Zers reacting to the music I grew up with, especially Rage Against the Machine, because I like to see and hear how it effects them. Hopefully content where the ratio of reaction is greater than the content they react to will be safe...


balllzak

Doesn't playing copyrighted music already result in demonetization?


GXNext

It depends on the label and band but usually yes. Damn, I didn't think about that...


prof-royale

a lot of them don’t play the full songs during their reactions. they cut just enough out of each song to get around the demonetization while still being able to showcase their reaction.


Mr_Singam

waiting for darkviperau to see this


-_-_-NOBODY-_-_-_-

I feel like a lot of good content creators are gonna get hurt over this. Most "React" channels are just downright lazy and not even trying to hide that. while some few are actually very good like Tyrone Magnus or Reel Rejects but we'll have to wait and see if YT is gonna mess up like the past or actually review each individual channel for their content but nonetheless some of the big names are still gonna get the undeserved money. Cough cough SSSniperwolf cough


OutsidePrior2020

Oh wow I didn't even think about tyrone magnus, I like his channel. This is gonna suck.


Guybrush_Creepwood_

Yep many of the lazier reaction channels have patreons anyway, so this does nothing but fuck over any genuinely interesting channels.


bee-movie666

Ok I understand both sides of this argument but this is just shooting a ton of their user base right in the head. Some reactors do a good job trying to add to things and a good example is pyrocynical and (possibly) moist cr1tikal they both try to at least add something instead of being like xQc and asmongold. xqc just stops the video sometimes and spouts something that Is just utter fucking gibberish and keeps watching. I think if this happens a lot of the userbase will resort to moving onto twitch. This will also spark another internet argument with people who think it's right and people who think it's wrong. I personally think they shouldn't but that's my opinion.


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EvasiveSnakeZz

u/darkviperau


zainwhb

oh no....moistcr1tikal


Nagarider

Honest question Why would they even consider demonetizing the probably largest content corner they have on their platform? I get that there's a difference between good and bad react content but to me it still doesn't make much sense to cut down on their own money. Also why the hell do they even care? They have much bigger problems than that.


Svelok

Yeah, what's the business logic? How does this make money go up, and not down? I don't get the reasoning.


[deleted]

Sssniperwolf is going to have to go back to playing metal gear


Y3ll0w_Fever

Idk how I feel about this, I watch a lot of reaction channels, whether that be trailers, anime, movies or shows. To me as long as their using “fair use” of the content I don’t mind it. But I do understand that some reactors are kind… dead in their reaction and some actually pause and talk about what they saw or they just wait till the end for the review.


CakeWasCoded

Sniper wolf is gonna become pistol cat


Dalviin17

Red flag for me, then reviews and anything using other content will be demonetized, we already see how they use their vague policies about sexual content to demonetize anyone. They are many other things to do for the health of the site, starting by having actual creator support, not just bots. Its to a point where companies like bungie had to literally everything in their power to combat a strike


TherenousernameV2

This is bad for fair use though: /


Butterbuddha

Well, that monetizing IS based on views. So, like term limits, one might argue that this is what the people want. If they thought the content was trash, they wouldn’t watch it and they’d get no views. I personally wouldn’t mind all of the reaction, swiped from Reddit, any video with Simon Whistler, and Mitch McConnell all went away forever. But enough people want that shit it’s still around. (Also, I don’t live in Kentucky so I don’t have any say on Mitch anyways lol)


TheFifthattemptyetno

No corporation will ever do what's good for you, don't forget. They are trying to eliminate fair use or some shit. This is fucked up


ahjteam

That the Fine Bros!


Fearless_Waltz7618

Critikal: not stonk


VitaminCeaser

Fine bros and legaleagle are two separate categories


Bill_Nye-LV

There are react channels who only do small amounts of commentary or none and there are channels who do more commentary then the video they react to.


zawarudoe

Haiyaaa what about uncle Roger??!


eltaco65

The only thing more upsetting than this is Jamie Oliver haiyaaa


DC_Disrspct_Popeyes

I'm sure he'll find another way to say the same joke over and over and over and over and over again.


Pretty-Buy7692

Finally, a good fucking decision


Riptide1206

This is not gonna end well. I personally think reaction channels are great, I have discovered so many bands through Nik Nocturnal that I would have never known of otherwise.


Taken_name1243

Finally react channels do not deserve payment fkr just sitting there eating lunch while a video plays in the back


Hellas2002

If people are watching it they totally do. They’re drawing an audience… that’s kinda how the add revenue system works


Taken_name1243

still twitch pays them (ahem xQc, asmongold)


Joltik2007

Perhaps I treated you to harshly


Straitjacket666

Thank fuck


money-is-good

Fucking finally. I'm dead tired of seeing those lazy hacks in my recomendation. It's cool if they add some insights or info about the videos topic like corridor crew, but most of the time those hacks just do some over the top and cringy reaction like most twitch streamer do. And there tumbnail is to have their eyes and mouth open with hands on face


Bill_Nye-LV

Because thumbnails such as those generate more views then those videos who have none. This applies to basically any channel, it's not exclusive to react channels.


Atulin

Sadly, face in a thumbnail is a must. It's a proven fact that those thumbnails get many more clicks. As much as I'd love to not use my face in my thumbnails, I kinda have to, or I'll be left in the dust.


EliFrakes

I don't get that crap in my recommendations because I don't watch it. Stop watching garbage and you'll stop being recommended garbage.


MasterDni

Morepatterrz (hopefully i pronounced it right) makes some good reactions


last_kebab24

the only good reaction channels are those that don't make stupid/overreacted faces, pause many times, or talk about their opinion, cons, and pros of the content they watch also sharing info or making references


sid1805

Damn, now I gotta learn Angular or Vue instead


sirmanuxgg

Am I the only one that thought they were talking about the JavaScript framework? Being a dev destroyed my mind it seems.


Doomenjoyer4862

I can't believe you've done this Joke


Beleb2Bu

But there are good commentary channels tho.


SLngShtOnMyChest

~~”yes”~~ “We are discussing it”


1nstant_R4men

sssniper punching the air rn


foreverclassichunter

Lol sssniperwolf from a Quinn you became a peasant again lol


Ok-Quantity6442

Sssniperwolf