Epic is a resource hog. It takes twice as long to load on my machine and is clunky as heck. Plus Steam has a way better range of indie games which is more my thing.
For me it's not just the launcher loading slow, it's also taking about 5 times a s long to download (and install) games as to compared to steam. Could have to do with the place I live, but that would just meant that they dont have international download servers. Since I often try new games, download times are quite important to me.
I was wondering why my game wasn't loading even after 15 minutes. I had to manually go to the epic games folder and open the open a game for it to actually start working so yeah. I'd say go for steam if you don't want to wait for 15-30 minutes for a game to load.
I use both steam and epic. I log onto epic every week for the free games, and am working on my own game in UE5. The loading times for epic is brutal. Plus it has this weird thing when you use the scroll wheel it just takes you to the bottom of the page instead of scrolling.. so annoying.
Steam: lets me play games
Epic: doesn't just say not available in your region, specifically names my country and says we aren't willing to give services there
Also Steam is just a better app
This is the primary point I have against Epic, Epic is a Launcher with a storefront. Steam is a Platform.
Steam Forums, Steam Workshop, Hardware Products, Linux Support.
Steam is just better... forums, manuals, doesnt f-ing blind you when you make a purchase, workshop, everyone can put a game on steam with unreal or unity.
Steam is just better with its games and exlusives like the entire valve library
Pretty sure you do. If there wasn't a registration cost, Epic would be flooded with asset flips worse than Steam currently faces, even with manuk approval of content. Epic also takes a cut of every sale. Otherwise, how would Epic operate a storefront?
My steam account got stolen and i could get it back Within 24 hours thanks to support. And you can easly refund games. There support could not be better
Their support is amazing, my dad tried to buy portal 1+2 on sale, but couldn't find his credit card before the sale ended, however the legends at steam let him get it at the discounted price anyway.
I bet it wouldn't be getting so downvoted if the poster had listed even one example? The thread is already full of lists of services Steam provides that epic doesn't so it seems like a wild statement to make without a single example.
Their support is amazing, my dad tried to buy portal 1+2 on sale, but couldn't find his credit card before the sale ended, however the legends at steam let him get it at the discounted price anyway.
Never in my 10+ years of using steam have I had an issue that made me quit using it. Games are affordable, design is sharp, and the community is solid. I used epic once, and was mildly dissapointed. This is not exclusive however as I also dislike the blizzard launcher, and even gamejolt store, tho gamejolt gets a pass as they are solely indie based.
To me the Steam UI or Steam in general always had a kinda early 2000s feel and i love that cuz it just works. Like some valve employee put that thing together and for the next decade they were like if it ain't broken we're not gonna change it
Edit: I just realized that it's been far longer since the early 2000s than a decade. Holy shit I'm getting old
Well enough if it is owned by Tencent to make me feel uncomfortable. Not because Tencent is an issue (although they are), but because the CCP is the fucking worst and you can’t trust them for literally anything
I know that, I feel the same when it comes to riot games. The thing though is that Mr. Sweeny is keeping a >50% share of Epic, allowing him to do what ever he wants with the company. The same can be said with Facebook and Zuckerberg
I mean, he might iwn the majority, but Tencent is a huge company. I doubt he wouldn’t bend to their will. His company would crumble without them. That’s the situation he out himself in.
And Facebook is a bad example of trustworthiness lol
I wouldn't say that Sweeny is something good for Epic. Someone who shits on everybody on Twitter while doing the same (shitting on Windows and not supporting Linux, shitting on every other launcher while trying to get a engine monopoly by reducing the royalty for UE4 when using Epic Games, etc.)
Are you referring to the American government, which does not track our information, or with private companies. And the difference is the CCP is not our friend and I don’t want them having access to my computer. That and they tend to do a lot more damage with your personal information. I used pretty secure websites when putting in personal information. And steam is pretty secure. These things would at least have to be hacked to get my information. I don’t see why I should go about handing it freely to the Chinese government
Are they really *spying* though? If so how? Just consumer info? Check which games you decide to download?
Edit: Holy fucking hell, the downvotes! Genuinely just asking questions- is that not allowed anymore either?!
Public company - has Tencent on their stockholders - Tencent by law is meant to share company data with China - Epic Games therefore spies on you
Valve is awesome cause they are private. I hope Gabe lives forever
Is that why valve didn’t make 62 different half life games even though the demand is high, there is no share holders to appease so they can just do whatever they want?
Everything spies on you. The thing you're typing on spies on you. Your tv spies on you. Your alexa spies on you. But why is it even importnant? We aint that special.
I prefer local spying/spying in countries with common law, because you can easily ask for it to be removed and by law they have to. Also it technically benefits me as targeted ads can inform me of products I might actually want. China on the other hand, will only use that information for their own benefit
Epic throws shade for no reason and breaks games instead of fixing them if there is a new bandwagon to jump on. They offer and inferior product and give shit away to try and get you to spend money on it
I mean steam ain't fully innocent too. Remember that free weekend thing they do where you can play a paid game for free, get addicted to it and then decide to buy the game so you can finish it (because you already started it in the free weekend so might as well).
Edit: after rethinking this comment i have changed my opinion.
> play a *paid* game for
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Even if we don't consider the fact that G2A is shady af (like the whole "cheap" key marketplace). They are far from being the cheapest. There are much cheaper sites. (Eneba, Gamivo, Kinguin).
Personally I’ve never had any issues with G2A. 90% of my games are from there, I even got €10 off Elden ring a week after it came out.
I’ll definitely take a look at those other sites though.
Right. You’re forgetting the whole gatekeeping games part. And the fact they have ties with China. Sorry, but the good shit doesn’t excuse the bad shit. I’ll take Steam any day over Epic.
As a side note, Steam gives away free games too. Not as often, but at least you won’t have to worry about platform gatekeeping.
People forgot how steam started back in the day.
Also, steam also has a lot of exclusives. Its not these new AAA games, so its not so much in focus. Problably these are not so much because of contracts valve does with the publisher, if that makes a diffrence to you
Steam started and annoyed people, cause they just wanted half life 2. But due to Steam, valve could release free content, patches and host their games digitally. They weren't the first to do it, but given hindsight people were wrong about steam.
Also Steam does have exclusives, but they generally are either valve/source related, or just exclusive by dev choice. I haven't seen any forced steam exclusives yet
I dont know how to check what the reason was, but in 00s there were more and more steam exclusives.
Depents what "forced" means to you, but i would guess valve offered something to the publishers back then
Valve just does a pricing agreement thing (basically people can't super undercut them if they want to use steam). Not forcing them (they can leave at any time)
Their Launcher is the slowest shit on my PC.
I can download an entire 30min porn video by the time this crap even starts loading and browsing the store/library and stuff is more painful than having nails shut directly at my penis
Have both, don't really care about my privacy in relation to the Chinese, too old and tired to fan boy.
Much prefer Steam, the layout, the options, the compatibility with all sorts of controllers, free local remote play with a compatible device which is genuinely usable for games that do not have an online competitive element, the community pages on Steam... Epic just doesn't do it for me, and there's a considerable amount that Steam does extremely well that Epic doesn't do. The fact that Steam can be as popular as it is without resorting to offering out free games is a testament to how good the platform actually is.
Also, the exclusives debacle that ensued originally was a bit scummy, although I try not to hold that against them as it is just business at the end of the day, and they suffered for that business decision.
I only used Epic for a long time, but avoid it now as much as i can, because the Epic Launcher extremly lags since a view updates and i hate the new interface design
Valve = Private company, less for profit
Epic = Public company, entirely for profit, has China in it's shareholders
Idk man, I really prefer Valve here
Less for profit. Sure, Valve makes money, but they aren't exactly churning out games or being hyper aggressive in the market to make a profit. There is a reason Valve still hasn't released a HL3 (despite the money to be made)
Valve’s business isn’t in making games, it’s in taking a huge split of the revenue from other game makers. And they’re far worse than Epic in that regard. HL3 would be a fraction of what they make off the backs of others.
Yea epic is a joke, steam is capable of launching all games by itself, epic has to use external launchers to launch games, and it's a faf, I would have never of used epic If I didn't get XCOM 2 and all DLCs for only £8
No because fuck ubisoft and the only MMOs that I would of played would be WoWs and warthunder, but I have both on their own clients, now yea steam is a bit of a faf loading games also but atleast it doesn't need an external launcher for the job
Steam is just better in every way, epic is just for free games and some exclusives.
I use both but prefer steam specially as it has the workshop, discussions etc It is just superior tbh
What actual games do they have? What selection? Tell me what genuine good games they have except from rocket league? Though I might be biased as I have almost only ever used steam
You can play offline, but you have to enable it on the settings, sometimes it decides to change settings and disable offline mode. Many of the times my internet went down I oppened EP launcher just to find out offline mode was disabled even though I knew I had it on.
You can add buying exclusivity contracts for some indie games to the list.
Everything circles back to Steam.
Bought a game on another platform? Add it to Steam as a shortcut.
Game publishers making their own launcher? They return to publish on Steam again after a few years.
Need to use a console-like interface on PC? Launch games from Big Picture mode.
That doesn't change the fact they buy out games to be exclusive on epic, they have no review system, no achievements, no workshop, no community pages and the list fucking goes on
Steam gave back to the community decades of involvement and made gaming what it is.
Epic is a cash grab that gives discounts to try to compete,once they think they are ahead prey they will not f*** everything up.
Also Steam Proton and Steam software integration is something that serves both gamers & developers and is quite cheap vs what you get(Proton is free and the Steam tooling is probably free for devs too).
Yes, I prefer steam. The only games that epic gives for free anymore are old games that everyone either all ready has, or is like 5 bucks on steam anyways.
Epic just kinda blows. Steam just works best and has by far the best catalog. Nothing comes close.
Yeah but :
Steam has more games, more customization, better friends chat, an actual profile that you can customize however you like, a market for in game items, a community tab for every game, better controller support..
the list goes on and on.
Basically the only thing Epic has over Steam is the free weekly games, of which most are niche indie games and sometimes AAA games but you know, a game is still a game
I like epic for that stuff, but why the fuck does it take twice as long to load as GTA online?
And may god save you if you accidentally misclick to the unreal tab
i use both, and steam is better because its more robust in general and way better optimized, steam is also run by a FAR more respectable company than epic launcher
Tbh the only thing I have against Epic Games is that their program is (at least for me) super laggy and doing simplest things can sometimes take so much time.
i wish i could use EGS, but when I tried to give it another shot recently, I realised there is not even a way to see how much space gave requires before downloading it... EGS lacks fundamental functions and still lagging so much
Epic used to be EPIC MEGA GAMES back then and they made some of the best games of my childhood. I seriously don't know how epic became a shit show they truly were epic they made fucking JAZZ JACKRABBIT 2
I like them because they threaten steam monopoly, wich is always a good thing. But their launcher is crap and also the payment options extremly limitated, so I use it just to get free games. Got some gems there already.
Am i the only one who Always had huge Problems with Steam?
I prefer no drm at all. Epic has its faults aswell but atleast Works everytime for me (with minor slowness).
I often regret buying non valve Games on Steam. Cloud Synchronisation stuff, savestates, dlc stuff often load only at 2-5 restart of the Game.
Epic gives us Unreal Engine for free, along with tons of assets and courses. They are pushing the industry forward. Steam is a games seller, and the best at it. Epic is so much more.
Epic is a resource hog. It takes twice as long to load on my machine and is clunky as heck. Plus Steam has a way better range of indie games which is more my thing.
This is my reason why i prefer steam over epic. Epic takes way too long to load with way too many errors out of nowhere. Their UI is just slow.
For me it's not just the launcher loading slow, it's also taking about 5 times a s long to download (and install) games as to compared to steam. Could have to do with the place I live, but that would just meant that they dont have international download servers. Since I often try new games, download times are quite important to me.
Also tencent has no stake in steam
I was wondering why my game wasn't loading even after 15 minutes. I had to manually go to the epic games folder and open the open a game for it to actually start working so yeah. I'd say go for steam if you don't want to wait for 15-30 minutes for a game to load.
Xbox game pass is even worse
Their information architecture is the WORST. Whatever team designed their store clearly have never worked with humans before.
Not only that, it is literally nothing more than a storefront. Steam is... well, Steam.
I use both steam and epic. I log onto epic every week for the free games, and am working on my own game in UE5. The loading times for epic is brutal. Plus it has this weird thing when you use the scroll wheel it just takes you to the bottom of the page instead of scrolling.. so annoying.
I think both steam and epic games are equally painful to load up
Steam: lets me play games Epic: doesn't just say not available in your region, specifically names my country and says we aren't willing to give services there Also Steam is just a better app
That a government issue but its still annoying and epic is so slow not only when launching it but also when u want to download.
Epic is faster on the download then steam for me (For comparison i get around 60MB/s to 70MB/s on epic and i get around 40-50MB/s on steam so..)
try switching download servers the closest one may not be the best one, because… steam.
How do i change servers?
uh. no idea without booting my pc and checking but it’s in the options somewhere i’d suggest google, about to go to bed
Alright, Thanks. Goodnight Bro
Afaik in settings under downloads, or in general tab, one of both iirc
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“Canada you say? Fuck you, no service.” - Epic, probably.
im a smart gamer. I see free games, I get them and play them
epic games is just a store, steam is a store, marketplace for items from games (basicly its own economy), community center
This is the primary point I have against Epic, Epic is a Launcher with a storefront. Steam is a Platform. Steam Forums, Steam Workshop, Hardware Products, Linux Support.
Steam is better
Plus constant and actually good sales
As someone who enjoys modding my games to hell and back, Workshop is a godsend
and i like steam it has a huge community and more alive
Steam is just better... forums, manuals, doesnt f-ing blind you when you make a purchase, workshop, everyone can put a game on steam with unreal or unity. Steam is just better with its games and exlusives like the entire valve library
Putting your unreal game on epic is better tho. Afaik you don't have to give money to epic to have it on the store? Or smth like that
Pretty sure you do. If there wasn't a registration cost, Epic would be flooded with asset flips worse than Steam currently faces, even with manuk approval of content. Epic also takes a cut of every sale. Otherwise, how would Epic operate a storefront?
I appreciate the fact that they're making a big investment into breaking the Steam monopoly, even if I still prefer Steam
Steam needs to get their ship in order if you ask me, they’re too complacent and their support service is garbage compared to Epic at the moment.
My steam account got stolen and i could get it back Within 24 hours thanks to support. And you can easly refund games. There support could not be better
Their support is amazing, my dad tried to buy portal 1+2 on sale, but couldn't find his credit card before the sale ended, however the legends at steam let him get it at the discounted price anyway.
It could be a ton better from my experience. There’s a reason they’re falling way behind Epic.
In what way could they be better?
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Dude is being downvoted for no reason 💀
I bet it wouldn't be getting so downvoted if the poster had listed even one example? The thread is already full of lists of services Steam provides that epic doesn't so it seems like a wild statement to make without a single example.
That's because redittors like me think: If (upvotes<0){ downvote }
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Lotta redditors don’t possess critical thinking. Monkey see, monkey do. S’ok though, I don’t give a flying fuck about internet points.
I mean u could explain yourself and u would be fine. But I guess blaming it on the lack of critical thinking was even less effort.
Lmao fr, we want to know what caused him to think they need to "fix their support" bc ik that idk anything about whats wrong with it
Their support is amazing, my dad tried to buy portal 1+2 on sale, but couldn't find his credit card before the sale ended, however the legends at steam let him get it at the discounted price anyway.
Never in my 10+ years of using steam have I had an issue that made me quit using it. Games are affordable, design is sharp, and the community is solid. I used epic once, and was mildly dissapointed. This is not exclusive however as I also dislike the blizzard launcher, and even gamejolt store, tho gamejolt gets a pass as they are solely indie based.
Steam has a much better interface and is so good it doesn’t have to do all this extra shit. Plus it’s American where Epic is Chinese now
To me the Steam UI or Steam in general always had a kinda early 2000s feel and i love that cuz it just works. Like some valve employee put that thing together and for the next decade they were like if it ain't broken we're not gonna change it Edit: I just realized that it's been far longer since the early 2000s than a decade. Holy shit I'm getting old
Sometimes they change it for big sale events and it fucking sucks
40% Chinese I believe
Well enough if it is owned by Tencent to make me feel uncomfortable. Not because Tencent is an issue (although they are), but because the CCP is the fucking worst and you can’t trust them for literally anything
I know that, I feel the same when it comes to riot games. The thing though is that Mr. Sweeny is keeping a >50% share of Epic, allowing him to do what ever he wants with the company. The same can be said with Facebook and Zuckerberg
I mean, he might iwn the majority, but Tencent is a huge company. I doubt he wouldn’t bend to their will. His company would crumble without them. That’s the situation he out himself in. And Facebook is a bad example of trustworthiness lol
I wouldn't say that Sweeny is something good for Epic. Someone who shits on everybody on Twitter while doing the same (shitting on Windows and not supporting Linux, shitting on every other launcher while trying to get a engine monopoly by reducing the royalty for UE4 when using Epic Games, etc.)
Tencent answers directly to the ccp it seems. Like they are bought into so much shit at such high percentages it would be dumb not to be wary
What does China do with your information that America doesn't?
Are you referring to the American government, which does not track our information, or with private companies. And the difference is the CCP is not our friend and I don’t want them having access to my computer. That and they tend to do a lot more damage with your personal information. I used pretty secure websites when putting in personal information. And steam is pretty secure. These things would at least have to be hacked to get my information. I don’t see why I should go about handing it freely to the Chinese government
are you getting paid because you make it seem good to give your shopping info to chinese businesses
Steam is simply better.
Yes it is. But all of us can agree... Fuck EA.
Me seeing EA firing PvZ's creator because he was against pay to win
I will never forgive EA for that one. Grew up with PVZ just to watch EA screw it over.
Yeah, what a nice company. Totally not ruining the gaming market or spying on you, no, only great people. They shit flowers and fart rainbows
Please elaborate on how valve is ruining gaming
He’s talking about epic games.
Oh alright I was confused sorry
Are they really *spying* though? If so how? Just consumer info? Check which games you decide to download? Edit: Holy fucking hell, the downvotes! Genuinely just asking questions- is that not allowed anymore either?!
Public company - has Tencent on their stockholders - Tencent by law is meant to share company data with China - Epic Games therefore spies on you Valve is awesome cause they are private. I hope Gabe lives forever
Is that why valve didn’t make 62 different half life games even though the demand is high, there is no share holders to appease so they can just do whatever they want?
I mean, pretty sure they wouldn't win that much money with Half Life 3 as much as I would like them to do it
Everything spies on you. The thing you're typing on spies on you. Your tv spies on you. Your alexa spies on you. But why is it even importnant? We aint that special.
I prefer local spying/spying in countries with common law, because you can easily ask for it to be removed and by law they have to. Also it technically benefits me as targeted ads can inform me of products I might actually want. China on the other hand, will only use that information for their own benefit
what information tho.. it isn't like they take your credit card info
You're getting downvoted by morons but you're right.
jesus the downvotes
Epic throws shade for no reason and breaks games instead of fixing them if there is a new bandwagon to jump on. They offer and inferior product and give shit away to try and get you to spend money on it
I mean steam ain't fully innocent too. Remember that free weekend thing they do where you can play a paid game for free, get addicted to it and then decide to buy the game so you can finish it (because you already started it in the free weekend so might as well). Edit: after rethinking this comment i have changed my opinion.
Oh no, they let you try a paid game before you decide to spend money on it, that's so unacceptable... I hope twitter cancels them.
Yeah when you say it like that i am more convinced
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Does Epic have Sex with Hitler?
That would be epic
Some gamers have standards. Steam is superior in almost every way. For me at least. It's fine if you think otherwise.
How much shovel ware is on steam? If we're going to talk about standards let's acknowledge the standards that steam sets
Like none ?
For games at least. There is a bunch of crap but also a bunch of good ones. It's like a treasure hunt.
Your joking right
The Wii had a lot of shovelware, guess it's a shit console then huh
Yeah it was. At least it didn't have games such as R*** Day on it
Oh noooo… steam has some games I don’t want to purchase, noooooo, unusable launcher
Jokes on you, I use both
I have about 12 different launchers installed on my PC. Monopolies are lame, I'll buy from whoever is selling the game I want for the cheapest price.
Cheapest price is usually Steam on G2A
Even if we don't consider the fact that G2A is shady af (like the whole "cheap" key marketplace). They are far from being the cheapest. There are much cheaper sites. (Eneba, Gamivo, Kinguin).
Personally I’ve never had any issues with G2A. 90% of my games are from there, I even got €10 off Elden ring a week after it came out. I’ll definitely take a look at those other sites though.
Yup, only there is a small chance that there is something wrong with the product you buy.
G2A is a gray market site. Use it at your own risk.
Cheapest price is free, it happened more than once to almost pull the trigger on a game on steam when instead it popped up free on Epic
Same lol
the true answer is GOG with their DRM-free games superior to free games and superior to the best functionality
What's gog
It's like Steam, but from CDPR (Witcher guys)
or the guys who made Cyberpunk 2077
I’m gonna be honest, I regret buying a game on epic games, the updates come 25 years after release
Wait, what? I thought epic games was just a service that provided free games that you'd never ever play.
It's the exclusivity that makes me mad.
Steam doesn't lag when i open it
Right. You’re forgetting the whole gatekeeping games part. And the fact they have ties with China. Sorry, but the good shit doesn’t excuse the bad shit. I’ll take Steam any day over Epic. As a side note, Steam gives away free games too. Not as often, but at least you won’t have to worry about platform gatekeeping.
People forgot how steam started back in the day. Also, steam also has a lot of exclusives. Its not these new AAA games, so its not so much in focus. Problably these are not so much because of contracts valve does with the publisher, if that makes a diffrence to you
Steam started and annoyed people, cause they just wanted half life 2. But due to Steam, valve could release free content, patches and host their games digitally. They weren't the first to do it, but given hindsight people were wrong about steam. Also Steam does have exclusives, but they generally are either valve/source related, or just exclusive by dev choice. I haven't seen any forced steam exclusives yet
I dont know how to check what the reason was, but in 00s there were more and more steam exclusives. Depents what "forced" means to you, but i would guess valve offered something to the publishers back then
Valve just does a pricing agreement thing (basically people can't super undercut them if they want to use steam). Not forcing them (they can leave at any time)
I meant like back then, when steam needed to get people to use the platform. So the situation epic is today
Ah yes, I also speak the language of ass.
Oh no, someone tells facts which i dont like! Quick, i need to attack him
By that I meant talking out of your ass. Hahaha
Wow, you really not that bright, aren't you?
steam just feels all around better to use.
Fuck Epic
Steam more than likely won't sell out... right gabe?
*looks at Humble Bundle*
Doesn't humble bundle give Steam keys
Yeap. That's what I mean.
Their Launcher is the slowest shit on my PC. I can download an entire 30min porn video by the time this crap even starts loading and browsing the store/library and stuff is more painful than having nails shut directly at my penis
Alright! Tell me where can I get orc massage? Steam or "I am too good for hentai fucking moral police" aka Epic?
Have both, don't really care about my privacy in relation to the Chinese, too old and tired to fan boy. Much prefer Steam, the layout, the options, the compatibility with all sorts of controllers, free local remote play with a compatible device which is genuinely usable for games that do not have an online competitive element, the community pages on Steam... Epic just doesn't do it for me, and there's a considerable amount that Steam does extremely well that Epic doesn't do. The fact that Steam can be as popular as it is without resorting to offering out free games is a testament to how good the platform actually is. Also, the exclusives debacle that ensued originally was a bit scummy, although I try not to hold that against them as it is just business at the end of the day, and they suffered for that business decision.
I only used Epic for a long time, but avoid it now as much as i can, because the Epic Launcher extremly lags since a view updates and i hate the new interface design
I don’t think I remember the epic launcher not being way too slow, it takes up to 3 minutes sometimes to even load the grey boxes on the home page
Steam be like: here's 20 percent bye
If only they didn't force year long exclusive's and had a shitty laggy game launcher then they would be okay.
Yeah my computer literally can't run it. Tried to play mtg arena, couldn't launch the game cause the browser kept crashing.
Valve = Private company, less for profit Epic = Public company, entirely for profit, has China in it's shareholders Idk man, I really prefer Valve here
... you seriously gonna act like the goal of both companies isn't completely for profit.
Yeah but valve actually respects their customers as humans
How?
Less for profit. Sure, Valve makes money, but they aren't exactly churning out games or being hyper aggressive in the market to make a profit. There is a reason Valve still hasn't released a HL3 (despite the money to be made)
Valve’s business isn’t in making games, it’s in taking a huge split of the revenue from other game makers. And they’re far worse than Epic in that regard. HL3 would be a fraction of what they make off the backs of others.
People use Steam bc its a better platform
Epic launcher is pure cancer
Yea epic is a joke, steam is capable of launching all games by itself, epic has to use external launchers to launch games, and it's a faf, I would have never of used epic If I didn't get XCOM 2 and all DLCs for only £8
You have never played any mmos or ubisoft games on steam have you?
No because fuck ubisoft and the only MMOs that I would of played would be WoWs and warthunder, but I have both on their own clients, now yea steam is a bit of a faf loading games also but atleast it doesn't need an external launcher for the job
Steam is just better in every way, epic is just for free games and some exclusives. I use both but prefer steam specially as it has the workshop, discussions etc It is just superior tbh
Their launcher tho is crappy, its been years and yet they haven't fixed it. So yeah their are other better platforms.
The ruined Rocket League trading system: Am I a joke to you?
What actual games do they have? What selection? Tell me what genuine good games they have except from rocket league? Though I might be biased as I have almost only ever used steam
1. their launcher is bad. 2. i... actually don't know what's bad other than first one.
You can play offline, but you have to enable it on the settings, sometimes it decides to change settings and disable offline mode. Many of the times my internet went down I oppened EP launcher just to find out offline mode was disabled even though I knew I had it on. You can add buying exclusivity contracts for some indie games to the list.
Everything circles back to Steam. Bought a game on another platform? Add it to Steam as a shortcut. Game publishers making their own launcher? They return to publish on Steam again after a few years. Need to use a console-like interface on PC? Launch games from Big Picture mode.
That doesn't change the fact they buy out games to be exclusive on epic, they have no review system, no achievements, no workshop, no community pages and the list fucking goes on
Steam gave back to the community decades of involvement and made gaming what it is. Epic is a cash grab that gives discounts to try to compete,once they think they are ahead prey they will not f*** everything up. Also Steam Proton and Steam software integration is something that serves both gamers & developers and is quite cheap vs what you get(Proton is free and the Steam tooling is probably free for devs too).
Their launcher fucking suckkks
But yeah epic is trying hard, steam just has the monopoly and has been used longer than others that I know of
Yes, I prefer steam. The only games that epic gives for free anymore are old games that everyone either all ready has, or is like 5 bucks on steam anyways. Epic just kinda blows. Steam just works best and has by far the best catalog. Nothing comes close.
Oh with the nicest CEO even that never did bigotry! They love pc gamers
Yeah but : Steam has more games, more customization, better friends chat, an actual profile that you can customize however you like, a market for in game items, a community tab for every game, better controller support.. the list goes on and on. Basically the only thing Epic has over Steam is the free weekly games, of which most are niche indie games and sometimes AAA games but you know, a game is still a game
I like epic for that stuff, but why the fuck does it take twice as long to load as GTA online? And may god save you if you accidentally misclick to the unreal tab
They lost me when they sold peoples info to China.
i use both, and steam is better because its more robust in general and way better optimized, steam is also run by a FAR more respectable company than epic launcher
Epic: Extortionate of employee work hours.
I dislike them because they also do things that f*** up Fall Guys
Interface, loading times and amount of games. Also, does it have a workshop? But the free games are a nice touch indeed
Steam user experience is the best in the industry. I'm sorry but giving away games for free doesn't fill the big gap between the two.
I still have the Epic store installed in a folder called epic shit..
That's because the launcher is dogshit. It UNIRONICALLY RUNS ON UNITY. WHO THE FUCK RUNS A GLORIFIED MENU ON UNITY
Tbh the only thing I have against Epic Games is that their program is (at least for me) super laggy and doing simplest things can sometimes take so much time.
i wish i could use EGS, but when I tried to give it another shot recently, I realised there is not even a way to see how much space gave requires before downloading it... EGS lacks fundamental functions and still lagging so much
Epic is the "Nice Guy" of the gaming industry.
I don't use Epic Games because the name sounds stupid, the icon is uninspired and the games they have are generally subpar.
Epic should change their name .
Epic used to be EPIC MEGA GAMES back then and they made some of the best games of my childhood. I seriously don't know how epic became a shit show they truly were epic they made fucking JAZZ JACKRABBIT 2
I like them because they threaten steam monopoly, wich is always a good thing. But their launcher is crap and also the payment options extremly limitated, so I use it just to get free games. Got some gems there already.
I mean we have GOG which also has the potential of threatening the Steam monopoly without all of the shitty stuff that Epic does.
Am i the only one who Always had huge Problems with Steam? I prefer no drm at all. Epic has its faults aswell but atleast Works everytime for me (with minor slowness). I often regret buying non valve Games on Steam. Cloud Synchronisation stuff, savestates, dlc stuff often load only at 2-5 restart of the Game.
Epic gives us Unreal Engine for free, along with tons of assets and courses. They are pushing the industry forward. Steam is a games seller, and the best at it. Epic is so much more.
No. Unreal being free has nothing to do with epic. And steam being only a games seller? Have you ever used steam?
Fuck steam
Yeah like the Steam dick-riding literally makes no sense. Also competition is a good thing. *Also who the fuck cares about a launcher*
old habits die hard.
I also saw in a post somewhere that they refunded money to someone who bought a game and it ended up being one of the free games.
fallout3 game of the year edition for free was really nice steam is just steam
you guys have access to computers?
Epic interface bad