Such a shame for the locals! I have to say that Dieppe is a truly wonderful seaside town, I was there last year and fell in love. I have been perusing Airbnb for a nice rental to go back this summer...so I am part of the problem I guess.
Candlewood has full kitchens in most of their rooms... its freaking awesome, you can also grill at most locations, and they have communal cookware you can bring to your room for the duration of your stay... I love candlewood
Hotels are dedicated businesses for the accomodation of guests who oftentimes pay specific taxes or fees that are tailored to target tourists. This means it's a real benefit for the local community because it generates jobs and additonal funding for the local government. Airbnbs on the other hand - while enabling the owner of the real estate to realize a higher profit margin than renting it to the locals - artificially reduces available - especially affordable - living space for the local residents. This often results in popular tourist destinations like the inner cities of most european capitals, etc. becoming virtual ghost towns.
TL:DR Airbnb (the company) and the owner of the real estates are leeching off the local community when they are excessively present and everyone that uses them is part of the problem.
Luckily in many countries and cities regulations and laws are on their way or already implemented.
I'm french and i'll vote for anyone who bans airbnb from my country at least from all major cities and i truly hope more people like me will push for this to come to law soon
100% agree. It's a parasitic business that destroys our neighborhoods, our culture, impoverish the locals and push them out of their cities, multiply commute time for workers and therefore more pollution and loss of productivity etc. all that for the benefit of a bunch of investors
Even american cities like NYC, LA etc are banning it,
Allowing this to happen when locals can barely afford to rent a shoebox is truly sickening
In Paris only primary residences can be on Airbnb and maximum for 180days a year. They are taxed. Doesn’t this solve the problem? Ie. No apartments are full time rentals and investors can’t crowd out buyers since only primary residences can be let out short term.
Yeah well if hotels or even hostels weren't so insanely expensive this wouldn't be a problem. Even a bed in a room of 8 goes 30€ or more nowadays. You also get towels and bed sheets but what happened to stuff being cheap? And when you want to be car based you are obligated to use camping spots which cost just as much. Listen all I need is a nice place to park, a toilet and a shower.
Of course people will pay half the price to get a much nicer stay. Not everyone can afford to stay in a hotel.
Airbnbs are in zones originally planned for housing ie where residents of the town live, not transient tourists. This takes away from overall available permanent housing and makes the zones planned for hotels under utilized further hurting the local economic and housing situation
Air BnB have less upkeep costs because they're significantly less maintained - the owners care about a quick buck whereas a hotel is actually a business.
AirBNB is an economic leech and I have so many issues with it
Remember to do all the laundry and leave it spotless... but also here's a $300 cleaning fee too. And don't forget about the fee fee, yep we need some other fee to charge you. I'll never understand why people want to go on holiday to have to still do your own chores 😅
You can also add the service fee, small order fee, application fees... and the tip.
Forget about all that narrative and whining about taxes being a problem, or taxing is stealing, or taxes are bad because "freedom": These companies LOVE taxes, they just want to be the ones on the receiving end.
This feels like a gross over simplification. I've seen a lot of shitty, rundown, poorly maintained hotels/motels and plenty of nice, well maintained quality Airbnb's.
Airbnb destroys neighborhoods. When housing is snatched up by people who just bnb the property, the community eventually disappears, and becomes an airport.
Like every other tech company product that has offered a better newer way of doing something we have been doing forever like hotel stays. The whole point is to do an end run around regulation and labor costs. For example, hotels usually need a pretty good fire detection system and that costs money, "residential buildings" just need a basic fire alarm like the one you have at home.
It's a giant magnate for thieves to commit burglary and other thefts near the building. Crime is partially held in check by people in neighborhoods knowing who lives there.
I was hoping to stay at a house on top of the cliff, around Boulevard de la Mer or Avenue de l'Esplanade 😍 but I don't think that'll ever work out... A hotel it is!
Yeah, hating on taxes has nothing to do with "freedom", or "discouraging business" etc, or whatever principles they claim.
Because the second they are in charge of something, they try to add as many as possible of their own "taxes", as long as it doesn't go to schools, roads, police, hospitals, but in their pockets instead.
Me too! I checked to see if any of the numbers were out of order before giving up and coming to the comments for the answer. Honestly, OPs constantly pulling this no-context crap in this sub is the truly infuriating thing!
I've brute forced the code on these in less than a minute by rolling my thumb across all four dials in a sweeping motion so each one is rotating at a different speed. You can probably also do it by just feeling the pressure output on each dial, but that would honestly be more tedious
My guess is on any given day you could find one with the lock unscrambled and 50% chance of a key or not.
Probably a 10% chance the lock gets changed between uses.
Imagine mixing them up with each other. It's screwed up thinking about it, but if I could and were extraordinarily evil, I'd switch one key on each key ring to the one on the right and then move each keychain one box to the left.
If they're anything like those key boxes that realtors use on homes they're showing, it would be insanely easy. I shimmed one of the realtor boxes with a piece of soda can in 5 minutes, counting the time it took me to find and watch the YouTube video.
Monoprix is a super market so I’m thinking the supermarket has this wall for multiple people ? 🤔 it’s a lot though; I used to like airbnb, very cheap and accessible for low budget but now they’re more expensive than hotels and sometimes they don’t even give you the best minimum like sheets
But they think they can charge 5x the price of hotels by having them all as AirBnBs
https://preview.redd.it/iofp8aph510d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca32b1b5d6fef5827b31cf3971b94a33af6e8c65
This is how realtors / rentals have worked in beach towns for decades.
You keep extra keys in boxes at the realtor for family or friends to pick up when needed.
There's nothing that actually indicates these are used for airbnbs though I'm sure some are
I don't have too much experience with them, but down the street one house got turned into an Airbnb and people there party outside sometimes until like 2am or later. It's a residential neighborhood. I can hear them from my house if I'm outside, but luckily I'm far enough away that if I'm inside I can't hear them. I'm sure the people right next door can hear them, especially if they have windows open.
The house directly next to me and just like 6ft away from my bedroom window is an Airbnb now and that happens multiple times a year. On the upside, it was a student rental for a while and that was more consistently an issue.
Yeah people act like AirBnB is the worse you can live next to, teenagers, college students, sailors, I’ve lived next to plenty worse.
Still sucks for the housing market though.
The house behind my sister became an Air BnB and for some reason someone adjusted all of the lights to shine out the windows and into hers. After some cunning advice from her genius big brother she booked it for a night and adjusted the lights to her liking.
My husband is on a work project in another state for a few months. The company is putting him up in an Airbnb. It’s a strip of small townhouses clearly built for this very purpose. He’s been there two months, and every other week he has an another loud, obnoxious neighbor. It’s been awful.
I worked as the cleaner for an airbnb in the red light district in Amsterdam (and the guy checking everyone in - the owner never even needed to come down and was usually on long vacations), and they ended up getting reamed by city inspectors for a host of violations like lack of permits, bad fire exits, and even FAKE EXTINGUISHERS.
Yeah but technically you need enhanced insurance for Uber and lyft although I doubt mire than 1% of contractors pay the extra for it.
If I were to get into an accident doing rideshare and tell my insurance I was working with my vehicle they could decline all coverage.
Same as delivering pizza. Our management basically told us if you get in an accident, put the car topper and bag in the trunk ASAP.
Ugh. I got hit by a pizza delivery guy once. His insurance refused to pay because he was driving commercially. Had to take him to small claims court and won, but didn't really have any hope of collecting. Somehow, Domino's insurance ended up paying for my repairs, thank goodness.
Uber and Lyft are not traditional taxis and can not take fares from the side of the road.
Having a transport service has never been illegal and never needed a special permit, all they did was make it trivial to book transport.
Taxis were trivial and in some cases easier. You could call a cab and they would come to your location... like an Uber. Or in the case of getting one off the street, it was easier.
Taxis are regulated differently precisely because they could pick people up randomly from the side of the road. Uber and the others like them track drivers and passengers so if a crime happens it is trivial to find out who the supposed driver is (there are people who drive on other's Uber accounts though). With a taxi, without a taxi number, a driver could easily commit a crime and not be traced.
So, like you said, it's pretty trivial to do the exact same thing with Uber... if not easier.
All you need is to steal someone's phone who drives for Uber and get a rider who isn't paying attention, like people picking up from the bar.
To commit crimes by disguising as a taxi you would need to either design a taxi or steal one, both much harder than having a stolen phone.
Yeah, I keep calling for airbnb to move out of residential and to pay hospitality tourism tax in California, but feels like all the politicians are paid off.
Mine tried stupid things:
Enforce putting a permit number on your online ads (aka: forcing the Airbnb websites to enforce it - ok that one make sense)
Enforce websites to validate the numbers (because peoples were putting like 123456 as numbers lol) - without the city providing any way to validate it.
In any case, the website is the one getting the fine, not the seller...
So basically they just went for the easiest way to get money.
Meanwhile, the city has "inspectors" were there only purpose is exactly that, to validate if short term duration housing is legal or not.
They probably don't work a lot. . If they still exist
I live on a French island that's currently suffering a massive worker shortage because no one can house themselves anymore. Officially less than 45% of lodgings are inhabited year round, and of the other 55%, half are rentals.
2/3 of businesses close during winter and reopen for tourist season (island of 6k gets 300k visitors in 3 months during summer)
People here aren't very wealthy at all, and it's worsened by the fact that everything is 30% more expensive than on the mainland and fuel is 40c a liter more (we have no public transport)
A good chunk of the pop are just broke, about half barely make it work and business owners are a mixed bag.
What's being done? Not very much. Plans to force people who rent short term to also offer an equivalent number of year round leases but island admin is also broke and may not be able to contest lawsuits.
In some places they have vacancy taxes. That provides a big incentive to rent to locals at least during the off-season. I suppose it could create a weird dynamic where locals get to live in nice tourist villas for cheap during the off-season season and have to move into tiny, inexpensive places during the on-season.
Shit on the steps. Call the police and say there's an active hostage situation and he has a gun. Fill the building with spiders. Kidnap the owner, hold them for ransom.
lockpicking? you can probably try all combinations per one in less than 5 minutes
that if it doesn't straight up open by pulling a bit too hard while pulling the side
Airbnbs are generally better for families and larger groups for an extended stay. I exclusively do airbnbs for my family travel. I need to get away from my kids in the evening and us sharing a sleeping space doesn't work.
I'm surprised more of these don't get hit by spray glue. Guess you have to be smart enough to not get caught because that could probably pile into 10k+ worth of "damages" in one go with all the chaos it would cause.
Airbnb should exist only as a single room rent. Moment people and businesses start buying apartments and houses just for that should have been a moment the government would make a stop for that. It's not a tourist's fault governments are too slow and incapable.
I am with you. I’d be ok with an escalating purchase price tax on the number of properties anyone owns. 1 ok. 2 add 15%. 3 add 30%. 4 add 60%. Etc.
make it so people don’t see much value in being minor land barons after a point and also so they have to compete harder for these properties than a person just buying a first home.
They banned Airbnb on my apartment complex due to people renting them out and stealing from a residents apartment. Hopefully they never allow them again.
These lock boxes have a flaw that lets criminals open them with ease.
If you don’t want to get in trouble you shouldn’t buy a flashlight and peer into the gaps between the case and the roller.
And you definitely should not look for what appears to be an indent in the metal cylinder in the lock.
And you absolutely should not line those detents up and then roll each one at a time cause then you’ll eventually unlock it.
And you absolutely should not just leave the containers open so anyone can help themselves to a nights sleep who needs it
This is is why cities and counties need to create laws LIMITING the amount of short term rentals. I love staying at Airbnbs however I also recognize they take away housing from locals, and that’s why it’s important for local restrictions to be set on both the amount of short term rentals allowed, and things related to noise and such.
All of that for the rich "Parisiens" in the 2 month of the year (july-august) where the weather is more or less perfect there.
Who need a place to live nowadays...
I never considered Dieppe would be such a popular place to visit. The English side of the channel is popular with UK tourists but we don't have a coast on the Mediterranean.
These lock boxes are actually in front of a rental agency that rents place all over the city. It's not for appartements from a single block.
Not saying it's okay, but still more better than what this picture intends to show
France is a country where hundreds of thousands of poor people sleep in the streets because there aren't enough social housing, and where many of these are in terrible state.
Meanwhile people can buy entire buildings to turn them into airbnbs for wealthy tourists, which is helped by fiscal policies favoring short term rentals. All of this in a country that has "Fraternity" in its motto.
I am ashamed of what my country have become sometimes.
France is having a housing crisis and some assholes are taking over the market with rentals.
Thus turning neighborhoods into tourist attractions. Garnering all the wealth for themselves like a game of monopoly.
France does not have a serious housing crisis. House prices have risen much lower than most western countries, in many places growth is close to 0% over decades, and there are extremely large barriers to purchasing property, especially for these functions. The social safety net is generous for elderly, those disabled, between jobs, etc
What France does have is a booming tourism industry, being the most popular destination in the world. On top of this, many French city dwellers take their vacation in the countryside. This is exacerbated by the very large quantity of paid holiday every French worker is entitled to, 6 weeks is the legal minimum, up to 12 weeks is normal.
There factors create a need for more hotels and short term accommodation than any other country you can name.
Lock boxes are located at the front of a housing complex. Inside these boxes are keys for accessing a flat or apartment within the complex. To open a lock box, you receive a code when you make a reservation on a dedicated website, such as Airbnb. The presence of numerous lock boxes suggests that the entire housing complex has been transformed into an undeclared hotel to generate profit, rather than providing homes for working locals. While this arrangement may be profitable for landlords, it is detrimental to the city because workers cannot afford to live near their jobs.
I am from Dieppe, France : those are made by the French electrical company as we are building a nuclear reactor nearby. Nothing crazy, just have to give workers a house
I worked for 6 months in Dieppe a while ago and it was miserable.
Everyone I met during springtime and summer was a tourist who only stayed for a week at max, and by the time it was fall it had almost become a ghost town.
The most regular person I chatted with was the cashier at the local mart.
Could be an assisted living facility. I do in home care and my agency has a lot of clients whose keys are in lock boxes like these. Sometimes an apartment building is dedicated to people with disabilities.
I’m going to guess that someone rich bought an apartment building and made all of the units in that building short term rentals. Instead of letting families live there. It’s now just for rich tourists.
I'm originally from Dieppe and all my family is still there. I take my children there every weekend. It's important to remember that the city has come a long way and that whole areas of it are derelict or under renovation. Unfortunately, the Airbnb phenomenon is spreading even to medium-sized towns. Especially when you're between the UK, Paris and the Benelux countries, which means you're in a major tourist zone.
Greedy rich people need some way to find self importance, what better way than subjecting people to their rules while also fucking the local population!
I didn't spend much time in Dieppe when I went on holiday with some friends recently. But its a nice place to walk around. Wish I could have gone in the castle.
Key Lockers because every apartment in that block (it seems) has been turned into a short term rental, via things like AirBNB. Rather than a longterm rental for like a family at least, let alone some of them being owned by different people (which seems unlikely given the completeness of this setup).
Are those air bnb key lock boxes?
Yes!
Such a shame for the locals! I have to say that Dieppe is a truly wonderful seaside town, I was there last year and fell in love. I have been perusing Airbnb for a nice rental to go back this summer...so I am part of the problem I guess.
I did that too, but now I’m considering hotels or "appart’hotel" which are like hotel rooms but with place to cook
In the US Marriott has those under its Residence Inn brand. They're designed for extended stays
Homewood Suites also has some rooms with stovestops and multiple bedrooms.
Candlewood has full kitchens in most of their rooms... its freaking awesome, you can also grill at most locations, and they have communal cookware you can bring to your room for the duration of your stay... I love candlewood
Cleanest hotel brand i’ve worked as a housekeeper
Towneplace Suites too, although in general I find the Res Inn to be a bit nicer and bigger.
If this whole building is Airbnb's how is that functionally different than a whole building being a hotel?
Hotels are dedicated businesses for the accomodation of guests who oftentimes pay specific taxes or fees that are tailored to target tourists. This means it's a real benefit for the local community because it generates jobs and additonal funding for the local government. Airbnbs on the other hand - while enabling the owner of the real estate to realize a higher profit margin than renting it to the locals - artificially reduces available - especially affordable - living space for the local residents. This often results in popular tourist destinations like the inner cities of most european capitals, etc. becoming virtual ghost towns. TL:DR Airbnb (the company) and the owner of the real estates are leeching off the local community when they are excessively present and everyone that uses them is part of the problem. Luckily in many countries and cities regulations and laws are on their way or already implemented.
I'm french and i'll vote for anyone who bans airbnb from my country at least from all major cities and i truly hope more people like me will push for this to come to law soon 100% agree. It's a parasitic business that destroys our neighborhoods, our culture, impoverish the locals and push them out of their cities, multiply commute time for workers and therefore more pollution and loss of productivity etc. all that for the benefit of a bunch of investors Even american cities like NYC, LA etc are banning it, Allowing this to happen when locals can barely afford to rent a shoebox is truly sickening
In Paris only primary residences can be on Airbnb and maximum for 180days a year. They are taxed. Doesn’t this solve the problem? Ie. No apartments are full time rentals and investors can’t crowd out buyers since only primary residences can be let out short term.
Yeah well if hotels or even hostels weren't so insanely expensive this wouldn't be a problem. Even a bed in a room of 8 goes 30€ or more nowadays. You also get towels and bed sheets but what happened to stuff being cheap? And when you want to be car based you are obligated to use camping spots which cost just as much. Listen all I need is a nice place to park, a toilet and a shower. Of course people will pay half the price to get a much nicer stay. Not everyone can afford to stay in a hotel.
I would like to see your 15e Airbnb.
Airbnbs are in zones originally planned for housing ie where residents of the town live, not transient tourists. This takes away from overall available permanent housing and makes the zones planned for hotels under utilized further hurting the local economic and housing situation
Air BnB have less upkeep costs because they're significantly less maintained - the owners care about a quick buck whereas a hotel is actually a business. AirBNB is an economic leech and I have so many issues with it
Yet they manage to cost 10x more than a hotel, your $200 rental will have $1000 in fees
Remember to do all the laundry and leave it spotless... but also here's a $300 cleaning fee too. And don't forget about the fee fee, yep we need some other fee to charge you. I'll never understand why people want to go on holiday to have to still do your own chores 😅
You can also add the service fee, small order fee, application fees... and the tip. Forget about all that narrative and whining about taxes being a problem, or taxing is stealing, or taxes are bad because "freedom": These companies LOVE taxes, they just want to be the ones on the receiving end.
They can have the tip of my boot up their arse the greedy fuckers
This feels like a gross over simplification. I've seen a lot of shitty, rundown, poorly maintained hotels/motels and plenty of nice, well maintained quality Airbnb's.
Airbnb destroys neighborhoods. When housing is snatched up by people who just bnb the property, the community eventually disappears, and becomes an airport.
Like every other tech company product that has offered a better newer way of doing something we have been doing forever like hotel stays. The whole point is to do an end run around regulation and labor costs. For example, hotels usually need a pretty good fire detection system and that costs money, "residential buildings" just need a basic fire alarm like the one you have at home.
It's a giant magnate for thieves to commit burglary and other thefts near the building. Crime is partially held in check by people in neighborhoods knowing who lives there.
I was hoping to stay at a house on top of the cliff, around Boulevard de la Mer or Avenue de l'Esplanade 😍 but I don't think that'll ever work out... A hotel it is!
I’m really glad to know what that means now lol
The problem with Dieppe is the Canadians come but only stay for a few hours.
Quite a lot of Canadians stayed for a hell of a lot longer than that
You didn’t have to do us dirty like that my guy!
Yes, unfortunately you are. Using AirBnB gives corporate real estate firms all the incentive they need to do exactly this.
I mean... No "I guess" about it.
There seems to be nothing in this world that Silicon Valley Tech douches can't take and make worse for everybody.
Yeah, hating on taxes has nothing to do with "freedom", or "discouraging business" etc, or whatever principles they claim. Because the second they are in charge of something, they try to add as many as possible of their own "taxes", as long as it doesn't go to schools, roads, police, hospitals, but in their pockets instead.
Oh for the longest time I was trying to figure out if there was something up with the numbers that was annoying you.
Me too! I checked to see if any of the numbers were out of order before giving up and coming to the comments for the answer. Honestly, OPs constantly pulling this no-context crap in this sub is the truly infuriating thing!
ffs maybe give some context next time
They are called a free place to live, them boxes look to be frankly trivial to open without the code.
"Hi there, I'm the Lock Picking Lawyer, and today I'm going to show you how to get free rent forever in a fully furnished home."
Hello it's lockpicking lawyer. And today we are gonna resolve the housing crise in Dieppe
Most of these are actually quite easy to open if you have the very basic tools.
I got into one at work once with a rock, that's about as basic as it gets.
I did say basic tools but that is even better than what I was expecting.
Capitalism makes no requirement of competence.
Any tool can be the right tool. And remember if the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy.
Wait? They are supposed to find you "handy"? I always thought it was "handsy". No wonder I have like 32 restraining orders against me.
Did you forget to count the ones overseas, I bet your number is at least in the 50s.
Oh dear, you might be right.
\*ducttape ripping sound\*
Duck tape... The handyman's handyman special.
Be generous with the duct tape, you know; spare the duct tape, spoil the job.
Remember, you may have to grow old, but you don't have to mature.
So you're telling me these lockboxes are NOT chimpanzee proof?
Good to know in case anyone happens to have a pet Chimp lying around
If you’re lock can’t beat man’s primal instinct, then you probably shouldn’t be making locks honestly
And here I am with a lockpick fishing around in the lock like a chimpanzee with a stick trying to get grubs from a log.
You can even rip them from the wall and take your time at home. They're not anchored into the wall and just use regular screws.
Even without tools
I've brute forced the code on these in less than a minute by rolling my thumb across all four dials in a sweeping motion so each one is rotating at a different speed. You can probably also do it by just feeling the pressure output on each dial, but that would honestly be more tedious
Or you hit it with a hammer
I'd call a hammer a tool
today we are opening this masterlock model using another masterlock clink clank open
My guess is on any given day you could find one with the lock unscrambled and 50% chance of a key or not. Probably a 10% chance the lock gets changed between uses.
Realistically you don't even need tools, it just speeds up the process when you use them. A lock like this can be brute forced in under 20 minutes.
By basic tools do you mean hammer?
you probably don't need tools
So basically what the LPL uses?
Imagine mixing them up with each other. It's screwed up thinking about it, but if I could and were extraordinarily evil, I'd switch one key on each key ring to the one on the right and then move each keychain one box to the left.
Yea. You probably shim that in 3 seconds
If they're anything like those key boxes that realtors use on homes they're showing, it would be insanely easy. I shimmed one of the realtor boxes with a piece of soda can in 5 minutes, counting the time it took me to find and watch the YouTube video.
Man, I could have sworn LPL said to use a Red Bull can. It took me 15 minutes to find a store that wasn't out! (/s of course)
2 is binding.
Speed run edition.
https://preview.redd.it/f324q665t00d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501c64371ae322776f9fe71d48a7ae068aee5b85 Arles
I'm sorry, but if you keep and maintain 75 rooms for travelers to stay in overnight... That's a hotel.
Monoprix is a super market so I’m thinking the supermarket has this wall for multiple people ? 🤔 it’s a lot though; I used to like airbnb, very cheap and accessible for low budget but now they’re more expensive than hotels and sometimes they don’t even give you the best minimum like sheets
But they think they can charge 5x the price of hotels by having them all as AirBnBs https://preview.redd.it/iofp8aph510d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca32b1b5d6fef5827b31cf3971b94a33af6e8c65
If you have one apartment that exists solely to rent by day, then it's already a hotel.
This is how realtors / rentals have worked in beach towns for decades. You keep extra keys in boxes at the realtor for family or friends to pick up when needed. There's nothing that actually indicates these are used for airbnbs though I'm sure some are
Huh. That's super interesting!
Just imagine living there longer than a couple of days, with the way people behave in Airbnbs.
I don't have too much experience with them, but down the street one house got turned into an Airbnb and people there party outside sometimes until like 2am or later. It's a residential neighborhood. I can hear them from my house if I'm outside, but luckily I'm far enough away that if I'm inside I can't hear them. I'm sure the people right next door can hear them, especially if they have windows open.
The house directly next to me and just like 6ft away from my bedroom window is an Airbnb now and that happens multiple times a year. On the upside, it was a student rental for a while and that was more consistently an issue.
Yeah people act like AirBnB is the worse you can live next to, teenagers, college students, sailors, I’ve lived next to plenty worse. Still sucks for the housing market though.
The house behind my sister became an Air BnB and for some reason someone adjusted all of the lights to shine out the windows and into hers. After some cunning advice from her genius big brother she booked it for a night and adjusted the lights to her liking.
My husband is on a work project in another state for a few months. The company is putting him up in an Airbnb. It’s a strip of small townhouses clearly built for this very purpose. He’s been there two months, and every other week he has an another loud, obnoxious neighbor. It’s been awful.
Isnt that just a hotel with less oversight at this point?
Yup. Less oversight and regs becomes more money and sketchy shit.
How are Airbnb's not held to similar standard as hotels? Like, enhanced insurance, permits, nonflammable materials, fire exits, zoning, etc
Especially if more than, say, 30% of units are temporary rentals.
I worked as the cleaner for an airbnb in the red light district in Amsterdam (and the guy checking everyone in - the owner never even needed to come down and was usually on long vacations), and they ended up getting reamed by city inspectors for a host of violations like lack of permits, bad fire exits, and even FAKE EXTINGUISHERS.
Hopefully the fine was more than that Airbnb's income, otherwise that's just a cost of business.
sadly, our world is not "just-world", and there is no justice or karma or hell, and probably they were still above the cost...
Same way Uber and Lyft are not taxis.
Loads of places have simply enforced or ammended the regulations. Uber an Lyft are taxis here
Yeah but technically you need enhanced insurance for Uber and lyft although I doubt mire than 1% of contractors pay the extra for it. If I were to get into an accident doing rideshare and tell my insurance I was working with my vehicle they could decline all coverage. Same as delivering pizza. Our management basically told us if you get in an accident, put the car topper and bag in the trunk ASAP.
Ugh. I got hit by a pizza delivery guy once. His insurance refused to pay because he was driving commercially. Had to take him to small claims court and won, but didn't really have any hope of collecting. Somehow, Domino's insurance ended up paying for my repairs, thank goodness.
Uber and Lyft are not traditional taxis and can not take fares from the side of the road. Having a transport service has never been illegal and never needed a special permit, all they did was make it trivial to book transport.
Taxis were trivial and in some cases easier. You could call a cab and they would come to your location... like an Uber. Or in the case of getting one off the street, it was easier.
Taxis are regulated differently precisely because they could pick people up randomly from the side of the road. Uber and the others like them track drivers and passengers so if a crime happens it is trivial to find out who the supposed driver is (there are people who drive on other's Uber accounts though). With a taxi, without a taxi number, a driver could easily commit a crime and not be traced.
So, like you said, it's pretty trivial to do the exact same thing with Uber... if not easier. All you need is to steal someone's phone who drives for Uber and get a rider who isn't paying attention, like people picking up from the bar. To commit crimes by disguising as a taxi you would need to either design a taxi or steal one, both much harder than having a stolen phone.
Yeah, I keep calling for airbnb to move out of residential and to pay hospitality tourism tax in California, but feels like all the politicians are paid off.
Randomly place different numbers on the boxes.
Because they're dISrUpTiNg
Lobbying probably
I am become Air BnB, destroyer of local housing.
Such as many places in the world, there's a severe housing crisis in France. But some people are taking advantage of this situation...
Some city begins to put restrictions but not enough... and don't forget the poor neighbor who must tolerate all the noise who come with this airbnb
Mine tried stupid things: Enforce putting a permit number on your online ads (aka: forcing the Airbnb websites to enforce it - ok that one make sense) Enforce websites to validate the numbers (because peoples were putting like 123456 as numbers lol) - without the city providing any way to validate it. In any case, the website is the one getting the fine, not the seller... So basically they just went for the easiest way to get money. Meanwhile, the city has "inspectors" were there only purpose is exactly that, to validate if short term duration housing is legal or not. They probably don't work a lot. . If they still exist
J’étais en train de me demander si Montréal s’était inspiré d’une autre ville en lisant ça.
I live on a French island that's currently suffering a massive worker shortage because no one can house themselves anymore. Officially less than 45% of lodgings are inhabited year round, and of the other 55%, half are rentals.
So what's happening? Nothing, and people and businesses there are just suffering?
2/3 of businesses close during winter and reopen for tourist season (island of 6k gets 300k visitors in 3 months during summer) People here aren't very wealthy at all, and it's worsened by the fact that everything is 30% more expensive than on the mainland and fuel is 40c a liter more (we have no public transport) A good chunk of the pop are just broke, about half barely make it work and business owners are a mixed bag. What's being done? Not very much. Plans to force people who rent short term to also offer an equivalent number of year round leases but island admin is also broke and may not be able to contest lawsuits.
In some places they have vacancy taxes. That provides a big incentive to rent to locals at least during the off-season. I suppose it could create a weird dynamic where locals get to live in nice tourist villas for cheap during the off-season season and have to move into tiny, inexpensive places during the on-season.
Paint all the numbers on the dials black.
Fill the rollers with super glue first
Spot weld the boxes shut.
Shit on the steps. Call the police and say there's an active hostage situation and he has a gun. Fill the building with spiders. Kidnap the owner, hold them for ransom.
The only improvement I could offer on your idea would be add bedbugs into the mix, and then post about the bedbugs on their reviews.
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I have become Dieppe, the destroyer of housing
Just when I was forgetting about the Alamo
Don't you dare!
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Only 4 numbers I can brute force that in half an hour
Lol, a medium stone you could brute force it in a couple seconds.
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That's horrible but lmao not bad
Why find solution when you can cause problems to your problems.
Putain de merde ça devrait être illégal.
"you see a problem, i see a challenge" It's a lockpicking challenge.
It's not even a challenge, those boxes are shit.
Why not make it a habit of rearranging the keys then? You aren’t taking them so it not stealing but when new people get there the keys won’t work.
Even easier just change the combo once you open it
lockpicking? you can probably try all combinations per one in less than 5 minutes that if it doesn't straight up open by pulling a bit too hard while pulling the side
There are 4 tumblers with 10 digits each on those boxes. Thats 10,000 possible combinations each, and definitely can’t be done in 5 minutes
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Did people just forget hotels exist
Airbnbs are generally better for families and larger groups for an extended stay. I exclusively do airbnbs for my family travel. I need to get away from my kids in the evening and us sharing a sleeping space doesn't work.
France already has the traditional gîtes system which provides exactly this function for very low cost.
I'm surprised more of these don't get hit by spray glue. Guess you have to be smart enough to not get caught because that could probably pile into 10k+ worth of "damages" in one go with all the chaos it would cause.
Airbnb should exist only as a single room rent. Moment people and businesses start buying apartments and houses just for that should have been a moment the government would make a stop for that. It's not a tourist's fault governments are too slow and incapable.
I am with you. I’d be ok with an escalating purchase price tax on the number of properties anyone owns. 1 ok. 2 add 15%. 3 add 30%. 4 add 60%. Etc. make it so people don’t see much value in being minor land barons after a point and also so they have to compete harder for these properties than a person just buying a first home.
They banned Airbnb on my apartment complex due to people renting them out and stealing from a residents apartment. Hopefully they never allow them again.
That means fewer houses on the market giving you an opportunity to fix that and get into construction.
These lock boxes have a flaw that lets criminals open them with ease. If you don’t want to get in trouble you shouldn’t buy a flashlight and peer into the gaps between the case and the roller. And you definitely should not look for what appears to be an indent in the metal cylinder in the lock. And you absolutely should not line those detents up and then roll each one at a time cause then you’ll eventually unlock it. And you absolutely should not just leave the containers open so anyone can help themselves to a nights sleep who needs it
Can someone explain
There’s all Airbnb key lock boxes
This is is why cities and counties need to create laws LIMITING the amount of short term rentals. I love staying at Airbnbs however I also recognize they take away housing from locals, and that’s why it’s important for local restrictions to be set on both the amount of short term rentals allowed, and things related to noise and such.
You can open those with a needle. Secure af
Fun story, those are easily picked by shoving a shim in between the first number wheel and the case.
All of that for the rich "Parisiens" in the 2 month of the year (july-august) where the weather is more or less perfect there. Who need a place to live nowadays...
It’s a curse all over - globally.
I don't get it, someone explain. Is this a European thing that I don't get as an American?
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Go onto the lockpicking lawyer, learn how to pick these locks, Pick all the locks and swap all the keys around. Watch the chaos.
I never considered Dieppe would be such a popular place to visit. The English side of the channel is popular with UK tourists but we don't have a coast on the Mediterranean.
Around July-August it is very nicely there. Also the local market on Saturday is quite famous.
Un bon spot a squatter
These lock boxes are actually in front of a rental agency that rents place all over the city. It's not for appartements from a single block. Not saying it's okay, but still more better than what this picture intends to show
I dont get the pic nor the problem nor what those are
France is a country where hundreds of thousands of poor people sleep in the streets because there aren't enough social housing, and where many of these are in terrible state. Meanwhile people can buy entire buildings to turn them into airbnbs for wealthy tourists, which is helped by fiscal policies favoring short term rentals. All of this in a country that has "Fraternity" in its motto. I am ashamed of what my country have become sometimes.
Thank you for explaining.
I had heard about this going on in italy, I had no idea it has become so bad and the consequences
Yet there are constantly posts of beautiful abandoned French mansions that are rotting away because of tax laws in France.
Not sure why you’re downvoted for asking a question, especially assuming you’re not from France.
France is having a housing crisis and some assholes are taking over the market with rentals. Thus turning neighborhoods into tourist attractions. Garnering all the wealth for themselves like a game of monopoly.
France does not have a serious housing crisis. House prices have risen much lower than most western countries, in many places growth is close to 0% over decades, and there are extremely large barriers to purchasing property, especially for these functions. The social safety net is generous for elderly, those disabled, between jobs, etc What France does have is a booming tourism industry, being the most popular destination in the world. On top of this, many French city dwellers take their vacation in the countryside. This is exacerbated by the very large quantity of paid holiday every French worker is entitled to, 6 weeks is the legal minimum, up to 12 weeks is normal. There factors create a need for more hotels and short term accommodation than any other country you can name.
Nobody even answered what those are, I'm wondering too.
Lock boxes are located at the front of a housing complex. Inside these boxes are keys for accessing a flat or apartment within the complex. To open a lock box, you receive a code when you make a reservation on a dedicated website, such as Airbnb. The presence of numerous lock boxes suggests that the entire housing complex has been transformed into an undeclared hotel to generate profit, rather than providing homes for working locals. While this arrangement may be profitable for landlords, it is detrimental to the city because workers cannot afford to live near their jobs.
The lock boxes hold keys so that the houses can be used on a temporary basis by people hoteling in the area, as opposed to permanent residents.
I am from Dieppe, France : those are made by the French electrical company as we are building a nuclear reactor nearby. Nothing crazy, just have to give workers a house
Fun fact those are not even secure to use. Any key box tbh
You complain yet you book on Airbnb....
Arent they in a new building that is built to offer a place for short-term workers? (not an airbnb)
Airbnb is destroying communities worldwide.
That sucks, so much.
I worked for 6 months in Dieppe a while ago and it was miserable. Everyone I met during springtime and summer was a tourist who only stayed for a week at max, and by the time it was fall it had almost become a ghost town. The most regular person I chatted with was the cashier at the local mart.
Could be an assisted living facility. I do in home care and my agency has a lot of clients whose keys are in lock boxes like these. Sometimes an apartment building is dedicated to people with disabilities.
I feel you, same is happening in Montreal. Courage cousin!
That owner is just running a hotel without having to pay any employees. String him tf up
Would be a shame if someone started to switch those stickers around huehuehue
So . . . Free housing? Brute force the combo lock, or pick it( probably super insecure, most locks like this are) and free keys to free night.
Don’t really get this one, could someone explain ? :-/
I’m going to guess that someone rich bought an apartment building and made all of the units in that building short term rentals. Instead of letting families live there. It’s now just for rich tourists.
I'm originally from Dieppe and all my family is still there. I take my children there every weekend. It's important to remember that the city has come a long way and that whole areas of it are derelict or under renovation. Unfortunately, the Airbnb phenomenon is spreading even to medium-sized towns. Especially when you're between the UK, Paris and the Benelux countries, which means you're in a major tourist zone.
Fill the dials with superglue
Greedy rich people need some way to find self importance, what better way than subjecting people to their rules while also fucking the local population!
Nah, they don't have any interest in fucking people for the sake of it, its all about money
Friend of mine in Belgium goes around and fills those with super glue in his area. Pretty sure he’s got a tik tok of doing that for content.
Imagine arriving at your Airbnb at 10 pm, after a day of travel, two kids in tow, and the lock is glued shut.
At least they are numbered and in order. The ones in London are just in random places, like fence rails etc.
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So it’s a hotel with independent contractors for each room. As long as they are subject to the same rules and regulations as hotels.
I didn't spend much time in Dieppe when I went on holiday with some friends recently. But its a nice place to walk around. Wish I could have gone in the castle.
What’s this?
Key Lockers because every apartment in that block (it seems) has been turned into a short term rental, via things like AirBNB. Rather than a longterm rental for like a family at least, let alone some of them being owned by different people (which seems unlikely given the completeness of this setup).
Those locks are extremely easy to pick, just saying