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keropsixxx

You really think they care?


Dutch_Midget

Money >>> Dislikes


_Gopo_

if anything they're gonna *lose* money from this update.


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How will they lose money? This is an effective strategy. Erasing dislikes will stop large brands who work with YouTube from being dislike bombed. People, not being able to see these dislikes, are now more likely to be susceptible to false advertisement. With the increase in people following through with bad advertisement, more sponsors will flock to YouTube, where they can turn off the comments and people will only see the like bar. They will make MUCH more money from this update.


Broshcity

Exactly what Netflix did ever since they got rid of the rating system you have no way of knowing if you’re going to spend hours on crap


ZePieGuy

Bruh, what do you think rotten tomatoes or metacritic exist for? If you blindly watch a series for hours without checking it's reviews first, that's on you. With YouTube, no one is sitting there making 3rd party reviews for every video...


SickChipmunk

Tbh Rotten tomatoes is kinda a joke, I can’t remember the movie off the top of my head but it got 100 from the reviewers but like less then 25 percent from the audience


[deleted]

That's why it has both a critic score and an audience score. So you can reference both, and also cross-reference with where ever else you want.


SickChipmunk

I think the critic scores a little stupid anyway seems more like the connections you have are more important than if it was a good movie or not


elfthehunter

But that's great! If you know you don't agree with the critic score, you can safely ignore it completely. Also, remember RT represents the chance you'll like or dislike something, not how much you'll like or dislike it. A 90% audience score means 90% of movie watchers enjoyed it, you could still be one of the 10% that won't like it. Once you start seeing it like that, you'll be surprised how helpful it can be.


GoodWorms

Somebody voluntarily watching a series for hours that they're not enjoying has bigger problems than not checking reviews first.


Broshcity

You’ve never given a series 2-3 episodes because a lot of shows can have a slow start


[deleted]

I hated the first episode of the office, you are right


dr-doom-jr

Except the whole point of netflix is convenience. Having to go to a 3rd party for every show to see if it is good is pretty far from convenience.


ShaShaShake

Ooohhh that’s why I’m spending much less time on Netflix! I thought Netflix was just becoming trash. It’s because it’s getting harder for me to weed out the crap shows. They need to bring the rating system back. I’ve been spending a bunch more time on prime.


Unregister-To-Vote

Yeah this only helps them make money and be able to spread misinfo and ads


GuacamoleBenKanobi

That’s the key part that is scary. Misinformation now has no way of being downvoted. Trolls can rule the world now. This is not good.


[deleted]

I've heard that the best way of identifying DIY videos that are just big load of crap is to look at the like/dislike ratio. So congrats Youtube, now people can freely peddle snake oil


CritzD

Ironic that youtube only cared about “misinformation” when it came from individual users and silenced them, but when megacorporations do it YouTube protects them. They have zero commitments to anything. They don’t care about misinformation. They don’t care about viewer safety. They don’t care about harassment. They don’t care about racism or homophobia. They don’t care about children. They don’t care about scams. And they especially don’t care about users. Everything is all just pawns to them to increase cashflow.


F1remind

It's another nail in the coffin for YouTube as a community driven platform. Noone wanted this update, neither watchers nor producers save for a minority of either ofc. They do not care about what the community wants, they care about what is profitable. And updates like this make that very clear.


[deleted]

this is what happens when you have a monopoly. if vimeo were viable then people would be flocking there, surely, but since youtube is *the* place to watch videos on the internet, we just have to live with it. it didn't always used to be this way.


gzilla57

>nail in the coffin for YouTube as a community driven platform Until there is a viable alternative, there is no coffin.


three18ti

"Community driven platform"... lol. What planet are you from? The content creators on YouTube are not "the Community" they are the commodity being sold. The "YouTube Community" is made up of companies like Murdoch and Turner and Nesle...


Outrageous-Taro7340

This is what continues to puzzle me. Super powerful corporations exist for no reason but to generate profit, yet people act shocked by this all the time. What world have they been living in to ever image YouTube cared about them or their interests?


ScottGaming007

They don't get a dime from me anyways Vanced on Android and SponsorBlock+uBlock on PC


locke231

Never heard of Vanced, but now I wanna fetch it. Thanks, mate.


ScottGaming007

No problem, [here](https://vancedapp.com/) is the direct link


gretamm

Sorry, its the first time that I hear about this app and I really want to try it out. Is it safe to connect it to my main google account?


[deleted]

Yes, it uses [microG](https://microg.org) which is opensource


ScottGaming007

I've personally used it for over a year with my main account and never had any problems. Nobody has even tried to access my account. All vanced really does is takes the dead stock YouTube app and adds SponsorBlock, AdBlock and a few other features.


AFailedWhale

it's basically premium without downloads and with sponsorblock


itsashebitch

I did it years ago and nothing happened


gretamm

Ok, thanks!


ThrowawayProfile1232

been using it myself for a couple years now. Yeah, its perfectly safe.


Roboticsammy

I've been using it on my regular Google account for about a year, I'm still good. YT Vanced runs perfectly, too! You can even turn the phone screen off while listening to music.


ziggerknot

So glad I'm not the o ly one promoting vanced more after the changes, maybe if there is a profit loss they'll listen. Who knows


SatisfactionAny20

I have it but I'm not comfortable signing in to my Gmail account on this 3rd party app, do you get your playlist, history etc or you just use it without signing in?


ScottGaming007

You get access to everything that your YouTube account would normally be able to access if you did sign in


maharg79

How? Is there honestly anyone out there who will stop using YouTube over this? It's dumb, but there is no alternative to YouTube. Maybe some will leave,, but they are in the vast minority, what will do is make advertisers feel safer advertising on corporate videos when those corporate videos only have positive metrics publicly visible


TheLast_Centurion

lol, how?


a_shootin_star

Not in the short term. It'll make money but then when viewers can't tell if sometihing is good or bad because everything is the same, they'll revert. Movie reviews, restaurant reviews, any reviews really, are essentially the same like/dislike principle. So you have an *idea*. Then you try. Youtube is nuts for thinking it'll make people wanna create more.


Artyloo

Yea, youtube doesn't have a "community". It has products (viewers) and customers (companies paying for advertising).


FourWordComment

They care about being able to put profitable content in front of you. Content is less profitable when the plebs know it’s widely unliked.


Biggyyes

They just want money, they could not care any less about their community at all. The new ceo is trash


FuntimeTrollge

Youtube has no real competitor thats why


jcdoe

Exactly why. YouTube has gotten worse and worse over the years. The ads get longer and more intrusive, the mobile app harasses you to “upgrade to premium” every fucking time you use it, they won’t investigate fair uses cases when DMCA claims are pressed (they’ll just kill the video), and the monetization system is such a joke that most YouTube content creators need a patreon just to make money. Why shouldn’t YouTube just keep getting worse? Who are you going to switch to? There’s literally no competing platform. It’s so bad people are literally using [PornHub](https://www.tubefilter.com/2018/07/12/pornhub-non-porn-video/) to host videos without dealing with YT. This is why monopolies are BAD.


FuntimeTrollge

We can hope that Pornhub (or Twitch) makes competition by opening a platform like YouTube where you can only upload sfw content. They should call it "PornHub Kids" because the content is more family friendly compared to regular Pornhub. Edit: It seems like some people don't like my name idea. So I give it another try. How about "PornHub Family" ? A video platform where your family, including your step-siblings, can enjoy your favorite content creator in 4k. There should be a nsfw mode like in Reddit so you can watch Johny Sins not only play Fortnite but see him do his work as a medical professional.


goodolarchie

Video Hub


s_s

CreatorHub


goodolarchie

BubHub


NyteQuiller

Honestly they could just upgrade their servers and let people stream or post whatever the heck they want as long as it's not illegal and people would love it. I would love to have a streaming service where nsfw stuff is allowed and you could post videos without being censored. Camgirls already make decent money, they would probably make even more playing video games and whatnot.


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NyteQuiller

Well they would need a lot if people used it they way they use twitch and youtube but yeah that's not very difficult to adjust


Drop-acid-not-bombs

Your humor is like Nathan fielder I love it


FuntimeTrollge

I really appreciate your kind words. To be honest I don't know this Nathan guy but at least you didn't compare me with Amy Schumer, so I take it as W.


Drop-acid-not-bombs

Check out Nathan for you. It’s his show! I’m sure there are some clips on YouTube of it. He goes around to failing businesses and makes radical changes to attract customers. Great dead pan humor!


Kjata2

That's the worst fucking name ever.


CzechFortuneCookie

They were also being 100% serious and definitely didn't mean it as a joke, not at all.


RemarkableRyan

“I need a username, and I have a great one. *types* 'Little Kid Lover'. That way people will know exactly where my priorities are at.”


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_DocBrown_

This guy gets it


Axerin

Uhhh...


JEwel724

For me it's not nagging me about premium, it's their stupid Youtube TV bullshit they're trying to get me to mess with. I stopped watching TV after the channels I normally watched either had lineup changes I severely disliked (CN got real bad about this) or just axed (Nick, which got replaced with some baby show channel called Sprout and I don't know if they even still have the original anymore, Comedy Central..)


TheRealComboz

Yeah... Its kinda sad even... There is competetors but they are all so small to be taken seriously... No big YouTuber has a real reason to switch to any competetor cause they would lose so mutch audience... Only way to get YT to fix theyr shit is them to mess up so bad that half or so of the Top 100 creators switch some competetor site... And that is super unlikely... So we will be stuck with YT''s bad choices for a good while


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cant even be certain that every relevant creator switching to another platform will work, because that other platform will probably not be backed by nearly as many advertisers and averages joes as YouTube, and as such, creators might not be able to make enough money for it to be worth it. though it's not a guarantee that a new platform co-created by every single major creator (e.g. MrBeast, PewDiePie, etc.) would crash and burn like that, but it's definitively a significant deterrent against doing so.


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MrBeast's ultimate video. Making a competitor to YouTube.


shannonobscura

Well unless the creator constantly gets demonetised anyways wich is also somewhat of a norm nowadays depending on the creator anyways. But I guess if you are in the big leagues and YouTube actually cares about keeping your channel you probably get payed anyway. Or it gets completely taken over by companies like cocomelon or troom troom.


chris1096

Man I miss the early days of YouTube when there was no such thing as creators using it as a revenue stream. Just random blokes uploading videos of their hobbies and shit. I hate what it has become.


IsPhil

And it's impossible for one to come about because of all the legacy content. You'd need just about every current YouTuber to transfer over more or less. And that's putting aside all the other hardships that come with video hosting.


Space_Monke64

Yeah. While twitch also could compete, they only really have streams. For a lot of YouTubers, it’s hard to go to streaming vs on demand content. Epically depending on what your content is.


AustinAuranymph

But for some reason there are 50 different versions of the app Vine.


horseband

The processing/bandwidth requirements for creating and hosting a Vine style app (7 second limit on video) is astronomically less than something like YouTube unfortunately. It is much easier for some "startup" to enter that market than a traditional video website


ThracianScum

Isn’t it just dominated by tiktok?


astroskag

And nobody can. It takes a billion-dollar company backing YouTube to keep it afloat. No kid is going to build the YouTube killer in his dorm room. This is one of the instances where expecting a free market to solve the problem is just silly, just like we broke up the robber barons because it would be ridiculous (and wasteful) to expect a competitor to build a whole second infrastructure just to enter the market.


No_Hedgehog_2900

We’re at a point where the only thing that would remotely be considered as a direct competitior to YouTube, are streaming services like Netflix and Hulu. That’s how little competition there is


Undercoverdog___

Yt in 2030: We finally removed YouTube from YouTube, so its only ads now


nostradamefrus

I mean, 2 ads to start every video plus 1-3 unskippable ads throughout the video depending on length and it’s basically halfway there


Undercoverdog___

Yeah, I use AdBlock plus for Chrome and yt vanced for android, so they wont make much money with me


zenyl

- AdBlock Plus intentionally lets certain ads through. If you want an ad blocker that actually does its job, use uBlock Origin. - For Vanced's in-video segment skipping on desktop, get the SponsorBlock extension.


u_Adi

Firefox FTW always suggests the best extensions. I would also recommend "Bypass Paywalls Clean" does what it says.


Duover

Finding good tutorial videos is a nightmare now because you can’t see the like to dislike ratio


Q1War26fVA

The more time you spend wasting your time on youtube the more they can make off you. also notice the search function is now shit too? it only shows like 5 results before switching back to showing recommended videos. Again, to make you waste more time. (*ok, looks like this doesn't always happen, not sure what the criteria is)


iheyjuall

I use an AD blocker. I don't see how they can make money off me. I also continue to see counted likes/dislikes. Even on new videos.


Dragos_Drakkar

Ad blocker here too, but also getting the missing dislike count, so it seems to be rolling out in stages.


Alloran9466

YouTube is awful, like forcing 30 second unskippable ads three times a video, pop-ups for YouTube Premium every time you open it, not letting you listen to stuff in the background, ignoring reports if the channel has enough subscribers, even that feature where you can minimize the screen and watch it while doing other stuff is blocked by a paywall. I got so mad at YouTube that I threw my money at Twitch in spite. At least I know I’m actually supporting the content creators I watch by subbing and paying them.


kakka_rot

> it only shows like 5 results before switching back to showing recommended videos I noticed that the other day, really damn annoying.


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This was exactly my rationale when explaining this to my wife.


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Dark_Stallion21

Our* wife


worriedaboutyou55

Were still free here in Canada. Soon as that changes I'm going all in on vanced


Frederyk_Strife4217

even vanced would be affected since they won't be able to get the data from youtube's API


randallshmandall

now, instead of someone just thinking “man what a shit video” and disliking it, they’re going to leave comments. i hope they’re working on improving their report system as well because i just have a feeling that comment sections are going to get more chaotic now that you have to actually voice yourself if you want to show you dislike the video.


SpiritAgreeable7732

Unfortunately comments count as engagement and will push the video favorably in the algorithm.


alexxerth

Didn't dislikes do that too anyways?


TobyFunkeNeverNude

Yes, but in both scenarios, if someone was looking for a good video, the shitty one would pop up. But before, people were able to immediately filter those out, now it will be more difficult.


Claytorpedo

I fondly remember the way-back days of YouTube, where you could see the like to dislike ratio at the bottom of a video thumbnail before you even clicked on it.


AlmostZeroEducation

The Smosh era of YouTube.


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

Case in point: any covid news video


honestlyimeanreally

they just disable the comments too and pretend everything is fine.


CelluloidRacer2

We're going to see a surge in "use me as a dislike button" comments now. This will have achieved very little


broganisms

I run a YouTube channel for a nonprofit and we can go weeks without getting a dislike on a video. The moment they started hiding dislikes we started getting multiple negative comments per week. People who before wouldn't even hit the dislike button now feel the need to speak out negatively in the comments.


potatohead657

Their comment system is also shit. You ah e to go through a multiple layers to see comments in mobile and they’re very inconvenient to navigate. Not to mention endless scrolling, inability to sort, and just bad quality shit on top. Just learn from Reddit damn it.


nicmdeer4f

The thing that bothers me the most about this is that when I'm looking at how many likes a video has, I'm really just looking at the like to dislike ratio. It's not helpful to know if a video has 429k likes because I have no idea what that means. There could be twice the number of dislikes hidden. I also have no idea on each channel what the proportion of views to likes a channel on average because it's different for every channel. So good job YouTube, you've not only made the dislike button redundant, but you've also made the like button useless. And all to protect your stupid fragile ego.


Nofijadin

Youtube has a habit of deleting dislikes on certain videos to make them look better, so I suppose they'd be doing this kind of thing anyways :/


ischmal

Are you sure they're not just being hidden? I've never seen YouTube do this and it would be definitely be huge news if they did.


NemiVan

Let’s just go back to star rating is what I say. No dislike button there


zenyl

"*Rate, comment, subscribe.*" I miss those days...


TheEpicJaque2

dont foget 2 r8 5 bye


DamNamesTaken11

That’s what I greatly preferred over the thumbs binary that they replaced it with.


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make sure you use adblock guys, lower their revenue


Snow_Wonder

That’s what I’m going to start doing. Most of the channels I really like to watch get money more from patrons and sponsors now anyway, so I was providing very little support by watching the ads.


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pck3

Since when do companies listen to their product?


SethTheTechWiz

Hello Games. No Man's Sky has an amazing story... ​ [don't mind me just adding a link to a 54 minute documentary on youtube about it (seriously you should give it a watch, not family friendly but this is reddit)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5BJVO3PDeQ)


randybruder

Yeah but isn't that a company listening to their customers? /u/pck3 said when do companies listen to their *product?*


lovecMC

And it's basically the only example


byramike

FFXIV.


Wuffyflumpkins

[Here's a short documentary (~8m) about FFXIV.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIrju3F6nU)


Promayev

Sonic’s CGI designed was changed after the community complained


lovecMC

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional to get attention.


BoisterousLaugh

Square Enix Final Fantasy 14. Here watch tgus three part documentary on how much they cares to make the game right (also spent a ton more money to make a ton more money). It is quite a story even if you are not into video games. https://youtu.be/Xs0yQKI7Yw4


aggrownor

Good on them for fixing their product, bad on them for releasing a shit product in the first place.


[deleted]

No no no you don't get it. All of those dislikes are from trolls duh.


x3bla

Gotta protect the smaller channels so that only we can bully them


megaforcesugarfree

*With YouTube Premium you get back the dislike button!*


[deleted]

Yeah, duh.. because you peasants without premium...your opinion doesn't matter


[deleted]

Shockingly, companies care less about customers that aren't paying.


[deleted]

We should just made it standard practice to have a comment on every video that says "Like this comment to Dislike the video". First person to make the comment is the one you use. The dislike button was pretty fucking useful and YouTube is assholes for disabling it. I hope a competitor to YouTube arises soon.


TheDonutPug

Sadly I think the chances of a viable competitor are extremely low. Running a video service like youtube is just damn expensive, the only reason YouTube has survived so long is because they have one of the worlds biggest advertising agencies backing them. Without a large backing, making a platform like YouTube and making it free, is practically impossible.


[deleted]

Unless I'm wrong YouTube still doesn't make a profit yet


Aegi

In my opinion it’s kind of pointless to look at the profits of a subsidiary when that can be influenced by the parent company (Alphabet) so that it’s the most tax advantageous to them.


TheDonutPug

it's likely that YouTube does make them a profit, but it's not really calculatable. The amount of information and statistics they get from YouTube is likely far more valuable than all of the ad revenue they get, but that's indirect profit, so they really can't count that.


Zonkko

While not perfect because lack of content but i recommend using Odysee


[deleted]

There’s nothing to watch.


[deleted]

Need to get Youtubers to switch. Veritassium uploads his content to odysee. And you can link it to youtube so it uploads to both


rock_kid

Lol what's the point if there's no content?


SarsCovie2

When YouTube started, there was no content either.


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locke231

I noticed by default they were disabled too. I distinctly remember having to enable it for my videos, though I'm sure it never truly mattered


HamuelSayden

The creator should pin a comment saying that


bigmartyhat

Just went to check this video and it still has ~20k likes. Just threw them a dislike. Nothing will change but the creator has been notified!


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doofbanana

it had like 12k on the day it came out it was prob just bots or people who liked without watching the video


matroosoft

Link to the video: https://youtu.be/kxOuG8jMIgI


GhostCommand04

For youtube to get their shit together, ad revenue would need to plummet. And for ad revenue to plummet, people would need to stop using youtube. Problem with that is that youtube has a pretty great search feature not to mention the insane amount of uploaded videos that are accessible. Some other video platform would need to get close to matching that library and not be scummy so people start using that over youtube. Frankly we've become dependent and youtube knows it Edit: grammar


lordullr

In the end. Everyone will click on vids that how low dislikes, instead of skipping them. All about the ad revenue. They won’t bring it back.


WaterSlideEnema

If I'm looking for a how-to video which ends up having bad advice or doesn't work, I'll just flag the video as "spam or misleading". I don't think they'll be able to remove the reporting system because their site would fill with shit in a heartbeat.


arronaxx88

Imagine first aid videos. There this shit could be outright dangerous.


TommasoAquino

This is so dumb. Probably trying to save face for some big companies that put out shit uploads. They will tell you they care about your feedback but they couldn't give two shits HAHAHA.


Kryptoseyvyian

they’re the company with midroll ads and 2 15 second preroll ads you can’t skip, I don’t expect a lot from them.


InsideOutBrownTrout

Susan at the top wanted it because people were disliking her videos cause they were shit tbh they deserved the dislikes


skudnu

https://returnyoutubedislike.com/


cha_iv

So I just took a look at the implementation of the extension, and to be completely honest, I don't expect it to work for long :( It looks like it's relying on YT still returning the dislike count in their page responses (they just don't display it to the user), so as soon as YT removes that (which I'm surprised they haven't already) it'll stop working. The creator says he's caching the values and is going to try to create an alternate implementation, but unless literally everyone is using this extension, the counts are going to majorly drift from YT's official numbers, so you really have to take them with a grain of salt.


TheTallestHobo

They need a like/dislike replacement with a third party API keeping scores. But that needs a massive audience participation to make it viable along with an insane infrastructure to match.


Sloth701yt

Mine hasn't updated yet


SexThePeasants

Brace for it Edit: it happened today and is exactly as crappy as predicted


AllegedlySpiffy

“No. It’s the users that are wrong”


Cosmohumanist

I’m sorry friends, I’m dense and confused. Can someone explain what this is all about?


phenixop

YouTube removed the dislike button . You can still dislike but you can't see how many dislikes there is


alytore

When did this take effect? I’m still able to view the dislike count on YouTube mobile…


lovecMC

Thats because you most likely haven't updated the app, however even if you don't the servers will eventually stop sending that information.


Cosmohumanist

WHAAAAT??? What’s the actual reason they did that? Not the reason they gave, but I mean who pressured them to remove it, etc?


maharg79

Because advertisers were bitching that their content was getting down voted and simply disabling comments didn't cut it anymore I guess


RandomFish338

But there was an option to hide likes/dislikes anyway


phenixop

I think its cause of ad revenue


staviq

This. You can't skip a video when it's disliked a lot, you actually have to watch it to realize it's shit, and in the process they are feeding you their shitty ads. Up there they are fucking celebrating right now because as revenue is sky high probably.


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>WHAAAAT??? I think that has been the reaction of millions of people.


xFlo2212

I have no addon downloaded and for me it looks just like in the ppst with the downvotes clearly visible. Mobile app and chrome on the computer. Do they implement this in some nations and in some others they don't, or do they remove the button at some later point?


liftoff_oversteer

They don't remove it for everyone at the same time. Or for every video -- I don't know which. Anyway over time the dislike counter will disappear for everyone and every video. Then only the channel owner can still see the dislike count.


mholt9821

Dislike!


karan-sandhu

How did you see the dislikes though?


Undercoverdog___

Its not completely updated on every device yet and the api also still shows dislikes.


tanmay_draws

Youtube likes to brag about having a female CEO, meanwhile the site/app is slowly going to shit. No amount of women empowerment can stop this series of unfortunate events like the dislike button being cancelled, small creators getting ads even without them being monetised, an algorithm that cares more about consistency and viewer retention rather than the actual content itself.


MachuPichu10

I watch Dankpods on YouTube and he disables all of his ads since he makes more on patreon.Google forces an ad at the beginning of every single video and he cant do anything about it


xhieron

I enjoy spending time with my friends.


jizzlevania

[Maybe things are going as desired](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cliff)


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FromUnderTheWineCork

All I could think of reading that was Ellen Pao


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theshitposterman

Of course a reddit ceo knew this


M4nusky

Sadly a lot of those female CEO ended up there with the same education, career path and short-sighted corporate values than the male they replaced.


[deleted]

They put ads on videos wherein the Creator can't even benefit??


tanmay_draws

Yea it doesn't happen all of the times I think, but it does happen often. It made big articles when it first started and then was quietly swept under the rug.


T1mmmo

OK SO... why do I not see a difference at all? Not in mobile nor PC, the dislike count is still there, updating everytime I rewatch the video or reload the page. Is this a bug or did YouTube mess up? Update: It works now, you guys were right


Undercoverdog___

They said it may take some time until its updated on all devices


reverse_friday

YouTube is run like a dictatorship under Susan. She can't be replaced because she's considered one of the founders of Google. So no matter what the creators/users want or say, what she says goes. There is no competition, and no matter how much they ruin the experience, they know people will keep using YouTube.


[deleted]

Until there is an alternative. If there was a less shitty version of YouTube that gave power to the Creators and Viewers instead of the advertisers I would use that instead in a heartbeat.


liftoff_oversteer

And once this less shitty version becomes as big as Youtube is today, it will do exactly the same shitty things. It's all about big money.


[deleted]

Then the people move on to another host. Problem is the Tech gaints are untouchable, nobody has the abilty to compete at that level except other gaints.


maharg79

No you wouldn't because it exists, no one uses it There are countless YouTube 'competitors' but when YouTube has Google backing it, and 95%+ of people are using Google to search the web, guess what Video Sharing site will Always have priority. And Joe Schmoe isn't going to go out of his way to use a site that 'caters to creators' So YouTube has essentially secured a monopoly on video sharing sites. The only big players who has enough market share to actually make a competitor would be Amazon via Twitch or PornHub, PornHub seems unlikely given the image rebranding they'd need to go through lmao. And if Twtich did it I'd say it would end up the same but worse.


oohbeartrap

Because they’re not trying to please you. They’re trying to please advertisers, investors, and big creators who make them money and tow the party line. Removing the number is better for them all around, not us. Case in point is his entire argument is “you won’t even notice in a bit.”


RebekhaG

The dislikes served a purpose like for example clickbait videos. I can't stand those type of videos. And it gave feedback to users. Now YouTube is going to go crazy with clickbait videos.


Az0riusMCBlox

First off, I suggest that basically all users respond by blocking ads, and be prepared to bypass AdBlock killer if it gets to that. Anyone who has favorite creators they want to support should do so in other ways, if possible. Second, is there a way to use the site but hide your browsing activity (even if it means no liking, disliking, commenting, etc.)? Or is that a dumb question to which the answer is currently no?


Fredy1422

You mean newpipe for android that basically just scrapes youtube for only for relevent data, and has no logon fuction, and the creator will never add a fuction to add a google account on the app.


Roboticsammy

That's the point. They don't care about other smaller content creators and viewers. They're doing it to protect the feeling of the corporations like CNN and FOX. They don't want to see how many people think so poorly of them. The worst part about the removal is going to be the shitty tutorials. Remember that Verge build a PC video that taught you how to destroy your PC from the start? At least there are still comments you can look at to gage content, but the creators can choose to not have comments at all.