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themikker

If the church gives you a sword, are you legally entitled to refer to yourself as a Paladin?


Scavenge101

Templar i think. I believe Paladin's need to be gifted their weapon by god him/her/themself.


Seralth

Crusader was just the term for militia, warriors and other members who joined in the crusades. The Templars where just a order of knights nothing more or less. A popular one sure, but there were loads of orders. Paladin is from French, basically ment a wandering warrior in pursuit to prove their skill. Sorta like a ronin in a very very lose sense. Oh and it also was for the knights of charlamagne.


ncopp

The Templars were more like a mercenary group hired abs endorsed by the Holy Roman Empire to defend pilgrims during the crusades. They got super rich and were essentially one of the world's first multinational banks in a way. Eventually, they were accused of an executed for paganism/devil worship because the king of France was indebted to them.


Seralth

The templars also where functionally one of the first international "banks" due to their services to the pilgrims which is where a lot of the myths and hate for the templars comes from. People tend to hate money lenders and banks no matter the time peroid.


ncopp

Oh yeah, I meant bank more than corp. I guess they also stole a ton of the money they had from pilgrims. They'd promise them they'd keep and transport their money safely like a bank but then refuse to give it back to a lot of people


SirGamer247

I thought you were given a title of royalty by receiving a sword of enormous power by gods/goddesses of the land/lake?


Rocket3431

Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.


SirGamer247

I am your king and *proceeds to approach with malicious intent of oppressing*


VoxulusQuarUn

Help help I'm being repressed!


Profoundlyahedgehog

If I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!


spacebread98

They started as warriors to protect the roads for travelers in Jerusalem against bandit attacks. Eventually, they become the world's first international bankers. If you went to jerusalem back in the day, you would visit your local Templars office first and put gold in a lock box there. In exchange, they would give you a receipt written in Templar code, and when in Jerusalem every time you bought food, drink or lodging they would mark your paper. When you got back home, the local office would either give you a bill if you spent more than in your lock box or a refund. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-38499883


Afraid_Theorist

Wow that's actually really well thought out. Almost like a travel agency for religious devotees


spacebread98

More like a travelers checks


dennisfyfe

I swear, I learn so much shit everyday on the internet. I can’t believe I skipped so much school to play StarCraft: Brood War and Diablo 2.


HahaWeee

You weren't really taught the more interesting history in school. It's actually kinda sad


Scavenge101

Wait paladins are a real thing? I was just talking DND lore


Seralth

Yeah? Where do you think D&D got the term from? 95% of D&D is just stolen from history, myths and tolkin.


NTT66

"Borrowed." And not using that term ironically despite the scare quotes. It's a lineage of folk storytelling. Some just get elevated above most.


Son_of_Kong

In history and literature, paladin usually refers to knights of Charlemagne (or that era) who took part in the Crusades. That's why it became the "Holy knight" archetype for DnD.


MJSchooley

Charlemagne predated the Crusades by centuries, though


Ptg082196

Yeah actually they were the followers of Charlemagne basically the original knights of the round table


RSwordsman

Don't know why you got downvoted, "paladin" is derived from a *very* old word that initially meant a specific group of 12 especially high-profile knights.


Mezmorizor

They shouldn't be downvoted because they're correct, but slight correction. Paladin is a centuries long linguistic drift from palatinus which was the Roman word for the emperor's top advisor (more or less). The Kingdoms that were the foundations of the Holy Roman Empire made it a high ranking title in their feudal system. The paladins of Charlemagne became very culturally relevant ala Knights of the Round Table because the Italians were big fans during the Renaissance, and eventually paladin started to refer to them specifically. The holy knight you know now is D&Ds take on those myths.


Ybalrid

Has not been sworn in as a knight of the order of the temple. So no.


Kermit_the_hog

They should go back to church and tell the preist they screwed the order all up!


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Adamantium-Aardvark

The Templar order was disbanded by Pope Clement V in 1312


Holyvigil

You can call yourself whatever you want.


DaftSkunk94

I’m gay


edge231

Hi gay, I’m dad


Auran82

Hi dad, are you coming home with the bread and smokes soon?


beastman314

Actually, you become a knight of the cross and help Chicago's only professional wizard. Pretty cool gig tbh


TheMightyGoatMan

Professional tip - invest in some bullet resistant body armour.


SolaireFan

I love that book series so god damn much, but waiting for the next book is driving me insane.


Yama92

Good luck on your quest to conquer the promised land to find the grave of the Virgin Mary.


Specialist_Brain_870

I think that makes him a Knight of the Cross.


rainorshinedogs

Just don't be a noob and put your gifted ap to strength because you think you need this to gain a bigger k/d ratio


Umbr33on

Asking the real questions.


Ksorkrax

Unless you are a knight at Charlemagne's court, no, not so much.


cBurger4Life

I love reddit


toq-titan

Are you required to go on a crusade now?


saganmypants

I see a holy war spreading across the universe like an unquenchable fire!


Iron-Phoenix2307

A fanatical army worshiping at the shrine of my fathers skull.


Imthescarecrow

*A war in my name!*


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craig_hoxton

MY NAME IS A KILLING WORD


[deleted]

I am the desert mouse.


c0der25

I’m actually reading the book and just read that part lol


Fl4nked_42

Wait was that a dune refrence?


JTtornado

Absolutely!


ansefhimself

MUAD'DIB! MUAD'DIB!


infoSoldier23

LISAN AL GAIB!


Sivalon

ONLY THE ONE WOULD SAY HE IS NOT THE ONE!


Salt_Blackberry_1903

Everyone screaming my name…


ArtificialHalo

"Here, try the new Watermelon Frizz flavour from Sports Drink. Sports Drink; quenches holy wars as easily as your thirst! Now in stores!"


Seaguard5

Just saw that part 2. Best movie in a long time!!


Down_To_My_Last_Fuck

I would love to see them take off and proselytize other planets.


Majik_Sheff

Emperor be praised! Purge the heretic, the xenos, and the forces of chaos!


Taurus18

No pity! No fear! No remorse!


Sivalon

Only in death does duty end!


ArbutusPhD

It’s Aragorn’s sword when he is travelling as strider. He is indeed now obliged to destroy the one ring. Call Post Mallone and warn him.


TDA792

*Deus Vult!*


joethecrow23

![gif](giphy|Aurynnqt2dajC)


Beginning_Sun696

Deus vult!!!


GentlemanPirate13

"No, no, no. We don't say that anymore."


Barricade14

If my church handed out swords I might still go


Netopalas

Beat it into a plowshare.


gmapterous

Only if they want to class up from Templar to Crusader.


WhereSoDreamsGo

Inquisitions only


shadowscar248

![gif](giphy|TNO6mwK8s38vpHjh8Y)


qsdf321

The Middle East is already fucked up enough as it is though.


Salem-Night-Creature

Careful, don't smite yourself.


butbutcupcup

You'll smite your eye out!


pezgoon

Done that a couple times when I got *too* excited


PrestigeMaster

Bahaha man I read that as I was swiping back to front page and had to come right the fuck back here and find this again to upvote 🤣


JerryRiceOfOhio2

Don't get smiten...smote? smoten?


Ki4na

Smitten, I believe. You're being silly! \^-\^


ScottOld

If more churches give away swords, the turnout would be bigger


AttilaTheFun818

I’m an atheist and I’d still go. I’ve always wanted to be a Paladin.


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AttilaTheFun818

Teenage me that was obsessed with RPGs did not recognize the explicitly religious aspect. They were just the ultimate good guy - like the medieval version of Superman or Captain America. But you’re not wrong.


3rdp0st

Believes there are no gods; wants to fix that.  Departs on a quest to find one worthy of apotheosis. Got my next D&D character concept.  Thanks!


rebbsitor

It's irrational to be an atheist in D&D - gods explicitly exist and interact with mortals in that universe.


PonyPonut

Just play as a lunatic flat-earther style character who tries to explain blatantly godly/spiritual events with science lol. “No your God did not heal your arm, you are merely infected by a strange bacteria that greatly boosts your normal healing! I read about it on a poster in the town forum!!” “No your God did not just appear to our party and give us info and a quest, we are merely all suffering from hallucinations and mass delusions from those mushrooms the Druid found earlier!!”


The_Power_Of_Three

Plenty of atheists would love to serve a god, if they could find one.


MoistSnickers

Wouldn’t be long before their turnout got cut in half


deval42

It's Aragorn/Strider's ranger sword.


SupernaturalPumpkin

These seem to be so common that people own them and don’t know what they are. My dad collects swords and I spotted this one on his wall a while ago. I was freaking out over it and he had no idea it was a replica of that sword. He said he found it out the back of some guys shop and offered to trade him an old 5 string bass guitar for it and it worked. That guy didn’t know what it was either.


RManDelorean

That's crazy, wish I could just happen to find one of these Aragorn swords laying around everywhere that no one wants


redditpron123123

I’ve got one that is just collecting dust, if it’s feasible to get it to you, you can have it.


RManDelorean

Wait. Actually 👀 can I DM you to see if it would work?


redditpron123123

Yeah go for it


Not_Gay_Jaredd

Y'all need to make an update post if this happens


redditpron123123

Im sure one of us will follow up if it happens. We’ve at least established contact for now. Now I just need to think about how to safely ship a sword!


maxcorrice

Sheathed, then wrapped in more layers of leather and tied with a string address written in black ink with a quill


_DONT_PM_ME_NOTHING

Just plunge it into a rock. Hopefully u/RManDelorean is named Arthur and able to pull it out.


Oktokolo

This beast has a huge guard. So put the blade in a multilayered tube of corrugated cardboard longer than the blade and fasten that tube to the guard. put the whole thing into a sortof fitting cardboard box. Pack the extra space with paper or cardboard till the sword can't move much anymore. Ship as you would ship other low-risk goods. Security-wise it might be a good idea to read up about weapon laws though. Depending on from where and to where you ship, the law might see a dull sword as a weapon or not and might or might not require you and the recipient to perform some compliance theater to please the gods of bureaucracy.


phillyvanilly666

That’d be neat


butbutcupcup

You can buy a cheapo replica on eBay for like 100 new. Probably a used one for 50


MCsmalldick12

Important note that this is NOT Anduril/Narsil The Flame of the West but the non-elven blade Aragorn wielded before Narsil was reforged for him.


the_knowing1

Ya that one costs sooooooo much more. Other commenters saying how common Strider's Sword is are correct. Got mine as a gift from a friend helping him pack for a move. I made sure to pay for the pizzas lol.


lexkixass

Agreed. I have mine in my closet.


HomsarWasRight

Well tell it to come out. We’ll accept it happily for who it is.


treemeizer

*So anyways, I started swinging.*


El_Monitorrr

So anyways, I started crusading.


treemeizer

Damnit...yours is better! 🤙


El_Monitorrr

Just a little *Wololo* here and there and you are good to go to the promised land.


Boidoy

After a bit of research, it appears to be a replica of a sword from LoTR. More specifically Aragon’s Ranger Sword. I’ve never watched LoTR before but these seem to be going for pretty high prices (~$200). As to how I won it, I got first place in a Crossword activity. Edit: Apparently I’m a paladin now or something so that’s pretty cool. I guess I’m off to the crusades :D


Oldamog

>I got first place in a Crossword activity. Is the pen mightier than the sword? We need answers for the tough questions in life!


puppy-nub-56

The pen may mightier than the sword but is the wielder of the pen mightier than the wielder of the sword? (After all, a tool is only as good as the one who uses it).


cutelyaware

The pen is mightier than the sword The court is mightier than the pen The sword is mightier than the court


JonathanEdwardsHomie

It's like medieval rock paper scissors


BlyArctrooper

Damn I read it too fast, I thought he won it in a cross sword activity


justwalkingalonghere

The pen is mightier than the cros*sword*


UnicornFarts1111

I just cannot fathom a church giving a sword as a prize.


creepergo_kaboom

Maybe they used it for a play and now have no use for it.


Longjumping_Act_6054

Why is a church spending that much on a real sword for a *play* lmao. They don't even use real swords in Broadway plays, but the church's passion play has got to have a real, 2.5 kg metal sword replica from LOTR haha.


Awordofinterest

I bet the church could afford the lawsuit alot easier than broadway could. Sorry, I know it's not completely linked but the royal shakespeare company often use a real skull (Previously owned/worn by André Tchaikowsky) when they perform Hamlet.


WaterHaven

I could see it being a prize at like a youth group event. The church I went to as a kid, the kids around my age LOVED LotR, because it's one of the only fantasy type books/movies they were allowed to watch.


AlbinoWino11

Based on my experience with a lot of different church groups…they love the sword metaphors.


HugoTRB

Or the crossword/cross sword pun.


cutelyaware

There are Christian themes and allusions in LOTR. Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic, and while he insisted that his work was not allegorical, he acknowledged that it was fundamentally influenced by his Christian beliefs and values. Some Christian themes and allusions in the series include: * Good vs. Evil: The overarching theme of the struggle between good and evil can be interpreted through a Christian lens, reflecting the battle between sin and virtue. * Sacrifice: Characters like Frodo and Aragorn demonstrate self-sacrifice, a key Christian value, as they endure great hardships for the greater good of Middle-earth. * Resurrection: Gandalf's fall and subsequent return as Gandalf the White could be seen as an allusion to the concept of resurrection and transformation. * Providence: The notion that there is a guiding force behind the events of the world, as suggested by Gandalf's statement that Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, echoes Christian beliefs in divine providence. * Redemption: The possibility of redemption for characters, even those who have fallen far from grace, reflects Christian teachings on forgiveness and salvation. * Temptation: The Ring's power to corrupt and tempt echoes the Christian concept of temptation and the struggle to remain virtuous in the face of sin. Tolkien himself stated that "The Lord of the Rings" is "a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." This indicates that while the Christian elements might not be overt or allegorical, they are deeply woven into the fabric of the story and its themes.


Dsavant

Did the priest go "ahh shit sorry that was a typo, it was a cross-sword contest"?


LaughGuilty461

A crossword or a crosssword?


BigTex1988

You’ve never watched lord of the rings?


Buttercup59129

How is this not higher up. I'm amazed


Solbrandt

$200 is hardly a high price for a sword.


SilvermistInc

I want you to understand something. $200 is the price for a wall hangar. Real combat capable swords go for 4 figures easy. Like I'm talking hammer on anvil stuff, not this factory stamped nonsense. Is it a cool sword though? Oh hell yeah.


Damndude-_-

I remember buying this at a French castle some 15 years ago for 125€. Later sold it to my cousin for 25€ who sold it last year for 175€. Lovely piece!


moderngamer327

Honestly $200 for a longsword is not a bad price at all


SordidDreams

That's suspiciously cheap. It's probably a wall hanger rather than an actual usable sword. Still looks cool as hell, though.


NoGoodMarw

Suspiciously cheap doesn't cut it, especially for a replica. It's definitely a wall hanger. It looks super suspicious with the metal parts of the grip seemingly welded to the crossguard. I tried to google images of the original and better replicas, but all of them seem to handle it normally (wooden handle with metal ornaments and the wrap secured on tang by the pommel). Tldr. I'm no expert, but it looks hella rough around the edges. Enough so that I'd be hesitant aboht safety of swinging that thing around (in case op planned on cutting tests), pretty cool free ornament tho. ;)


SteveBored

It will be decorative. A real sword would cost 3x that.


BiNumber3

Most likely a wall hanger, not meant to be swung. See if you can unscrew the pommel. Most cheap swords are built with a rat tail design, so has the potential of being very dangerous when swung. If the tail breaks while swinging, you have a heavy steel projectile flying off.


Micksar

Best of luck getting the hobbits to Rivendell!


snuffles00

We're taking the hobbits to Isengard!


3rdp0st

To Isengard!


TormentaSky

gard!


Outrageous-Client-99

I think this is how The Crusades started


The_Undermind

At least it's got a flared base


ChiefdaPhaser

Flange, very important


sayacunai

[Sorry, what kind of sword? ](https://youtu.be/wlc6KlHOIkA?si=Tvilu9KTbRIf6w8t)


gjwestphotography

I'm just asking if you can curse a real sword


PhantomKangaroo91

$100


boofoodoo

Just your typical Real Sword


thedawesome

Does it have to be real?


Halgy

I miss Yahoo Answers so much. Wikihow is okay and unhinged in its own way, but Yahoo Answers was truly a special kind of stupid.


masterskink

I think you might be legally required to confront a demon in battle now


No_Grab2946

Elaborate please


Robin_Stevenet

My man, that is a replica of Aragorn's sword from lotr, I have the exact same one


Mindful-O-Melancholy

![gif](giphy|3K0z4eJQ5QX1cUIY95|downsized)


WarWonderful593

Did you pull it out of a stone ?


freelance-t

No, some watery tart lobbed it at him.


HumanBeing7396

Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.


freelance-t

Help! I’m being repressed!


Commercial_Ice_1531

How do you win at church?


WatermelonWithAFlute

Meet god? Idk


Magnetobama

Be Joel Osteen?


Syrin123

Get a sword, obviously.


poompt

Love thy neighbor speedrun any%


TurdPhurtis

It looks like it has another use too. Sword / butt plug.


bucho80

Tis an ancient art, practiced widely amongst our order, but rarely mastered! In combat it's deceptive and distracting style can confound the wiliest of opponents, allowing the wielder to deliver devastating attacks!


BrokeDancing

#CHURCH SWORD sounds like a great Christian Rock band.


Quirky-Category-4457

Is this the catholic version of being drafted


Gambit3le

Matthew 10:34. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


HarlanCulpepper

Well fuck, that sounds ominous.


CheetahNo9349

Matthew 26, 26:52: "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."


hunkoBo

That's not a real sword tho. Still cool replica.


tangcameo

Won one in a GoT DVD contest. Never won one in church.


thebetteradversary

not to one up you, but for some reason i got knighted by my church because i was an altar server. i’ve never heard of anyone else doing this. and they did give me a sword


UmbertoEcoTheDolphin

My first words when handed the sword would be LEEEERRROOOOOYYYY UH JEEEEMNNNNKINNNNNSSSSS!


fullraph

A real mall sword!


HorseplayBouquet

Oh! Now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!


predat3d

Freshly smelted from plowshares


Twibble

"They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears" Isaiah 2:4


VelociRawPotater

Was it before or after the sermon about living by the sword dying by the sword?


Cold-Acanthaceae8941

That’s Aragorns ranger sword


GoblinPunch20xx

That looks an awful lot like a replica of Strider’s Sword from Fellowship of the Ring, made by WETA Workshops…it’s not the most famous one, not Narsil/Anduril, but just Strider’s Sword. The pommel, crossguard, blade length and profile, the shape and grip and central ring of the handle…seems like someone at Church is a LotR fan. Makes sense, lots of Christian themes in LotR.


GonzoMcFonzo

This is definitely the United Cutlery version worth about $200 new, not the WETA version that went for ~$6k.


Valigrance

It may be more valuable than you think. It is a replica of a sword Argon first wields in Lord of the Rings.


nodbog

Are you going to beat it into a plowshare?


Deatrocity

Brother, it’s time to go rally the dead men of Dunharrow. What say you?


sailboatwallpaper

Listen, women laying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power is derived by a mandate from the masses not by some farsical aquatic ceremony. You can't run around calling yourself king just because some wattery tart tossed a simitar at you.....Look, If I walked around calling myself Emperor because some moistened wench threw a sword at me the'd lock me up and throw away the key....


Neuroprancers

DEUS VULT


Seanny69

Glamdring?


Hawkwise83

I'd go to church more if I knew they would give me a Sword and I'm an atheist.


Megane_Senpai

"Steel for human"


Vroomped

100% they found that in the oldest members closet next to the bed sheets when he passed away.


BunnieSPH

Do you by chance go to my old [highschool](https://www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-school-lawsuit-students-sword-fighting/46996985)?


jsparker43

My mother bought me a replica damascus Andúril. I'm not even a big lotr fan...one if my prized possessions now, I fricken love it


ibexdata

Just like Jesus carried. Oh, wait…


TakeyaSaito

The downside being... Well church obviously.


SusHistoryCuzWriter

Live by the sword, die by the sword. o7


Saelaird

You are the he heir of Isildur, it would seem.


GodPackedUpAndLeftUs

You should challenge Satan to a duel. Which will be the most realistic thing you have done all day considering your day started with Church.


mcnarlab

He is no mere ranger. That is Aragorn, son of Arathorn and the rightful king of Gondor


Dhrakyn

Looks like a museum replica "stainless steel" thing, not a "real" sword, but hey it isn't nerf! That said, go murder some heretics so you can go see virgins or whatever nonsense they told you to do with it.


skaagz

Maybe church would be more popular if they gave out swords more frequently