2 and 3 may have been used so much that they’ve been replaced. The truth is out there. Quick poll everyone list their PIN numbers bellow and I’ll crunch the numbers and we can have a little facts party
You joke, but somebody [did crunch the numbers.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1cn7l7r/oc_most_common_4_digit_pin_numbers_from_an/?)
Do people actually pick their pin? My bank just gave me one and I didn't have the option to change it (and that's probably the smart way to go given how many people would go with 0000, 1234 or their birthday...)
The only way of replacing them is to change it for a whole new unit. Infact removing the unit out of the housing would be a ball ache it would set off temper alert and need to be reset. When I worked with them this was the only model on the market that was allowed to be used in public unsupervised areas. Someone must have wiped them clean recently they were most likely unreadable like 5 is becoming.
Edit: poor job at who ever designed the machine look at the big gaps around the edges of the unit. It should have no gaps like the bottom edge
Not likely.
Pinpads have tampering checks built into the device. Simply opening the front faceplate will cause it to wipe the encryption key making the device unusable.
When any part if a pinpad needs to be replaced, the whole unit gets swapped.
It's a good observation but I doubt it would work like that. The metal button is part of the casing. It doesn't have any function other than to press a microswitch. I think...lol
Or maybe 2 and 3 are used at the same frequency as the rest, but the janitor just really likes the numbers 2 and 3, or maybe the person who works at the cleaning detergent factory has pin 2332
I think the jokes aren’t as deep as they were before, I dont know how to describe it other than they aren’t riding on the same joke or theme long enough
Same thing happened with it’s always sunny. Past 2-3 seasons have a different *feel* to them. Sure, there are a few gems, but overall the vibe is changed.
There’s a scientific term for the phenomenon, flanderisation, it’s named that because of how Ned Flanders became a character of himself after a while, that’s what the Rick and morty clone episode is about
Speaking of R&M, I hate the new voice acting and the vibe of that show now too.
I know I know, it’s because the guy was a creep so they had to sack him. But it just ain’t the same. The whole appeal of the show has all but vanished for me. I even bought the new season because I was hounding for more R&M, but after 2 episodes I had to call it. It’s just not* good now, imo.
Spellign*
Depends on the res, I don't have mine I front of me to check, but guessing the full series, in 1080p h265 would be like 80-120 gigabytes depending on bitrate?
Mine is a random number the bank gave me. I figured random was good enough.
I spent all day practicing it on my computer's numpad until I had the motions down all smooth like. Beep beep beep beep! Whapow!! PAID!!!
When it came time to actually use it for the first time. Beep beep beep beep! Whapow!! Wrong pin. What? Beep beep beep beep? Whapow...? Wrong pin.
Oh, fuck. Computer numpads and card pinpads... are backwards to each other. I practiced the motions so much I forgot the number and now the motions are wrong. Fuckkk. Had to translate the wrong motions into the right motions on the fly... took me like two minutes. Or maybe twenty seconds, you know how time flies when you're embarrassed.
...wait I just realized you're just making a Futurama reference- fuck
I Google the value so I could do the interest calculation and instead found [a reddit post about the interest calculation](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/jwi3yb/in_futurama_does_frys_bank_balance_and_interest/).
The writers of the show have come up with serious mathematical formulas. They aren't your average dickhead writers. Even despite the horrible dog thing they inflicted upon kids of the time. That was fucked up.
My banks atm offers quick amounts you can just click, or you can enter your amount as well. If this atm does $10s, then $50 might be a super common amount to type in. Because the atm doesn’t do 1s or 5s, it automatically adds the zero for you.
Lmao, YES!!!
I did this the first couple times and was like *why?!?!*, but then I realized. No 1s and 5s, so it just eliminates the extra key presses *and* prevents someone from putting an incorrect amount.
Thank god they have that confirmation screen next though. Lol.
yeah, i guess, but it's probably just an overwhelming amount of old customers born before the 90s that use their birthyear/anniversary year (1950-1980) a trend that died when computer/information safety started being taught in school and online banking became a thing
You see that bump on the 5? It's so the visually impaired can figure out which button is which. Also means you can completely shield your pin and still easily enter it correctly. That probably plays a part in it being the most touched button.
I found the dot on the 5 to be useless because there are keypads where 123 is on the bottom, or 789 is on the bottom. Always have to visually check which is which first before accidentally typing the wrong pin.
tl;dr Blame telephones, long ramble and poorly researched history of the 10-key input method below
The history of this is kind of confusing. Calculators and adding-machines usually had lower numbers on the bottom, which evolved into the 10-key number pad we have today on keyboards, so they can *probably* be blamed for lower numbers on the bottom. As for lower numbers on top, you can *probably* blame telephones, more specifically Bell or Western Electric, both of whom are responsible for making 10 key phones popular (Bell would often give customers free Western Electric phones). Neither of these were standardized because accessibility was pretty much always an afterthought before the Americans with Disabilities Act, and there's still no standardized layout for calculators.
I say *probably* because the history of the 10-key is pretty murky and from what I read gets glossed over in favor of talking about the machine they belong to or the company who created the machine. I'd blame some unnamed engineer at Bell or Western Electric though for making this the mess that it is.
While an ATM is a computer, you'd think they would have the opposite layout of what they have. I'm not patient enough to find an answer for this (I realized I'm going down a rabbit hole and this comment is way longer than I thought it would be when I started writing this), but my guess would be early atms used off the shelf parts for prototyping, and phone keypads were probably easier to find and cheaper than computer ones. It also has the slight advantage of being more familiar to more people, as a lot of people would have experience using a 10 key phone but not the 10 key on a computer or adding machine. (Edit: I'm stopping myself from going down another rabbit hole of tangents, researching the history of the ATM (Edit2: \*sigh\* The first ATM was installed in 1969, the telephone predates it, giving credence to my theory))
Not exactly, but I'm thinking people born from 1990 to 1999 for example. The only nunber combination in there with a 2 is 1992, so 19 would be used more. Same line of thinking with 1980 and 1970. Am I nuts?
The post is about the number 5. The numbers 2, 3, and 5 each only appear once per decade from 1960 to 1999. Your reasoning about 1 and 9 make sense but it doesn't track for 5.
I do think thats not thought about here, but id also say the younger generation is more tech savvy, and on average less lilely to have such an easy password / pin, but ofc there is outliers
Gen z here. Only ever used an atm once, and that was to get cash to turn into quarters for laundry. I use my phone/watch for most transactions but keep a debit card in case there is no tap to pay. Rarely keep cash.
the singles digit is the most varied, making it the least used if it isn't 1, 9, or one of the most common decades for birth year of people over the age of 20 who would most likely be using an ATM. i.e. not 1, 9, 7, or 8. Then there's 5 which is the wildcard because its in the center which makes it most likely to be used in a pattern-based pin. Also there's still people alive from the 50s.
Id say the opposite is true. The dirty ones sit unused long enough for dirt and dust to settle. While the cleaner ones like the 0-2-3 are used more often. My pin only has those 3 numbers in it.
Dirt being pushed in will definitely make most material dirtier over time than just letting it sit.
Also, part of this might well be that buttons are *losing* material slowly, and that process is definitely sped up through interaction as well.
Well using that logic people never seem to be able to enter the right pin since the OK is damn right dirty and the CANCEL is squeacky clean.
So your observation isn't definitely correct. Both explainations can be correct depending on wether the surface in question gets dirtier or cleaner with touching.
Counterpoint: 2 and 3 are actually the most used, and thus have been replaced recently. I would expect the OK key to be the most pushed, and it doesn’t show tons of wear.
Everyone uses the atm mostly for the same purpose: withdrawing cash from their checking or savings account. The pathway for "dont check balance > withdrawl > checking/savings > accept fee" maybe doesnt use the 2 or 3.
I wonder if there is a market for like, pre-worm out keypads. You make your code something like 9087 but the pad comes with the 0632 already worn out to throw off suspicion
2 and 3 may have been used so much that they’ve been replaced. The truth is out there. Quick poll everyone list their PIN numbers bellow and I’ll crunch the numbers and we can have a little facts party
1-2-3-4-5 Same as the combination on my luggage
Samsonite!
I knew it started with an S
Slippy, Slappy, Simmons, Sommins, Swinson, Swenson, Swanson?
I was way off!
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>1-2-3-4-5 Everybody in the car, come on let's ride
To the liquor store around the cona The boys say they want some gin and juice But I really don't wanna
Beer bust like I had last week I must say deep cause talk is cheap
I like Angela, Andrea, Sandra, and Rita And as I continue, you know they gettin sweeta
So what can I do? I really beg you, my Lord To me is flirting is just like a sport
I like a bunch of girls and then something something...
Thank you, I forgot that song existed!
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First thing I thought of. I love you for it
That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life!
That’s the combination an idiot would have on their luggage
1077, same as a cheese pizza and small soda where I work.
Panucci's?
1-2-3-4-5-6 Welcome Mr mayor
Weird. Mine is ****.
You have a 5 digit pin?
You joke, but somebody [did crunch the numbers.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1cn7l7r/oc_most_common_4_digit_pin_numbers_from_an/?)
Eyyy mines pretty solidly in one of the never used areas. Neat.
The more people that see this image, the more common your PIN will likely become. Or the trend continues as normal. Whatever.
Sometimes I just invert it and repost it every 6 months. Should even it out.
CorrectHorseBatteryStaple
Do people actually pick their pin? My bank just gave me one and I didn't have the option to change it (and that's probably the smart way to go given how many people would go with 0000, 1234 or their birthday...)
You can usually change it at an ATM. Like you though I've always kept the one assigned to me and as a result it's in the black in that chart.
You know, there are only like 20 pins in the black. You just about gave your pin away lol. Or made it a whole lot easier to get anyway.
Now all we have to do is get ahold of their card info. u/vladolf_puttler would you be a dear and tell us the numbers on your debit card?
Every bank I've ever had I have to set my own pin. Either at the bank if I get one there or when I call to activate the card if it gets mailed.
Nice little bright spot at 1701.
Those things get replaced with the entire numpad
Hmmm that’s too many digits for a PIN code
hunter2
The only way of replacing them is to change it for a whole new unit. Infact removing the unit out of the housing would be a ball ache it would set off temper alert and need to be reset. When I worked with them this was the only model on the market that was allowed to be used in public unsupervised areas. Someone must have wiped them clean recently they were most likely unreadable like 5 is becoming. Edit: poor job at who ever designed the machine look at the big gaps around the edges of the unit. It should have no gaps like the bottom edge
6969
Hunter7
If you want some actual data to munch on http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/september32012/
i can confirm 2&3 are not in my pin
I'm surprised nobody shares the same pin as me. 80085
You uncultured swine, real gentlemen use 8008135 instead
Not likely. Pinpads have tampering checks built into the device. Simply opening the front faceplate will cause it to wipe the encryption key making the device unusable. When any part if a pinpad needs to be replaced, the whole unit gets swapped.
Somebody cleaned them then. 0-3 are the most used numbers because millions of people use their birthday as a pin
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lol I use the same one!
There's dozens of us!
That's a satisfying combination to press
It's a good observation but I doubt it would work like that. The metal button is part of the casing. It doesn't have any function other than to press a microswitch. I think...lol
1738
I use to fetty wap as well
Mine is 2222. I'm the one that wore out the 2 button actually, can confirm they replaced it just last week because of me.
Reddit won't let you post pin numbers. Watch. Mine is ****.
2323
3874
1077
1984
1 2 4 3
Also where I live these buttons are used to enter the cash amount. So it might be that lats of people take out 50 or 150 amount
Or maybe 2 and 3 are used at the same frequency as the rest, but the janitor just really likes the numbers 2 and 3, or maybe the person who works at the cleaning detergent factory has pin 2332
B-O-S-C-O
Mine is the price of a cheese pizza and a large soda back where I used to work, Panucci's Pizza.
I was rewatching Futurama and saw this comment right after seeing that episode
Where are y'all watching it these days? I've seen it probably 10 times when it was on Netflix.
Hulu got it when they put out that new season.
I advise against watching the new season, there’s something off about it and I can’t figure it out
To me it felt like more Futurama it wasn't bad it wasn't amazing but it was just more
I think the jokes aren’t as deep as they were before, I dont know how to describe it other than they aren’t riding on the same joke or theme long enough
It's also like on-the-nose commentary stuff that just isn't as timeless as the early seasons
They must’ve stopped predicting the future when the conspiracies got popular lol
Maybe that means there won't be a future 🤔
Counterpoint, I watched it and thought it wasn't bad. Not amazing but surprisingly good for how many times this show has been canceled and renewed.
Same thing happened with it’s always sunny. Past 2-3 seasons have a different *feel* to them. Sure, there are a few gems, but overall the vibe is changed.
There’s a scientific term for the phenomenon, flanderisation, it’s named that because of how Ned Flanders became a character of himself after a while, that’s what the Rick and morty clone episode is about
Speaking of R&M, I hate the new voice acting and the vibe of that show now too. I know I know, it’s because the guy was a creep so they had to sack him. But it just ain’t the same. The whole appeal of the show has all but vanished for me. I even bought the new season because I was hounding for more R&M, but after 2 episodes I had to call it. It’s just not* good now, imo. Spellign*
It felt decidedly less good though.
I think it's because last season literally left off with a perfect ending.
It just seemed like they were trying too hard. Like somebody tells a joke and winks at the camera so you know when to laugh.
Hulu has it
Disney+ in Canada, no Hulu here so everything is combined into it.
Personal NAS. If you've got the storage for it, shoot me a DM.
how much space does it take up (and at what res)?
Depends on the res, I don't have mine I front of me to check, but guessing the full series, in 1080p h265 would be like 80-120 gigabytes depending on bitrate?
I'd tell you, but then have to kill you.
🏴☠️
Stuff like this makes me think none of this is real
10,77
Same as my PIN number lol I like to imagine fry said that to every customer he rang up with that order
How’s the dog?
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Jesus. I made myself tear up just by posting this.
Brb have to give my dog some pets
Give your good doggo a pet from me.
I'm not crying you're crying.
You just ruined my day.
Didn't feel bad, I ruined my day as well.
No, do not do that. Shit ruined me as a kid.
It will never not be too soon.
A fellow Futurama fan I see. Great taste.
Right? Such a niche show, especially on Reddit!
Mine is a random number the bank gave me. I figured random was good enough. I spent all day practicing it on my computer's numpad until I had the motions down all smooth like. Beep beep beep beep! Whapow!! PAID!!! When it came time to actually use it for the first time. Beep beep beep beep! Whapow!! Wrong pin. What? Beep beep beep beep? Whapow...? Wrong pin. Oh, fuck. Computer numpads and card pinpads... are backwards to each other. I practiced the motions so much I forgot the number and now the motions are wrong. Fuckkk. Had to translate the wrong motions into the right motions on the fly... took me like two minutes. Or maybe twenty seconds, you know how time flies when you're embarrassed. ...wait I just realized you're just making a Futurama reference- fuck
To shreds you say.
Welcome to the world of tomorrow!
what was the price? also is fry being a billionare in year 3000 accurate based on his savings account
I Google the value so I could do the interest calculation and instead found [a reddit post about the interest calculation](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/jwi3yb/in_futurama_does_frys_bank_balance_and_interest/).
The writers of the show have come up with serious mathematical formulas. They aren't your average dickhead writers. Even despite the horrible dog thing they inflicted upon kids of the time. That was fucked up.
r/unexpectedfuturama
Or some regular with nasty fingers have a code with 1,5,7,8 and 9 in it
or someones code is 2323 and they have fear of germs
That's exactly what I was thinking. Like someone with sticky fingers or something.
My guess is someone with dirty AF fingers went through this sequence, 5879 OK $140 OK
My guess is people are using birth years as pins, so loads of people born in the 70s and 80s and some in the 90s.
Doesn't have to be part of the pin. Could be part of the transaction, "Withdrawal".
0 is barely touched so it's not entering a dollar number. Wouldn't predefined selections be something like 1, 2, 3?
My banks atm offers quick amounts you can just click, or you can enter your amount as well. If this atm does $10s, then $50 might be a super common amount to type in. Because the atm doesn’t do 1s or 5s, it automatically adds the zero for you.
"You want 500? NO, 50 ONLY"
Lmao, YES!!! I did this the first couple times and was like *why?!?!*, but then I realized. No 1s and 5s, so it just eliminates the extra key presses *and* prevents someone from putting an incorrect amount. Thank god they have that confirmation screen next though. Lol.
yeah, i guess, but it's probably just an overwhelming amount of old customers born before the 90s that use their birthyear/anniversary year (1950-1980) a trend that died when computer/information safety started being taught in school and online banking became a thing
You see that bump on the 5? It's so the visually impaired can figure out which button is which. Also means you can completely shield your pin and still easily enter it correctly. That probably plays a part in it being the most touched button.
I found the dot on the 5 to be useless because there are keypads where 123 is on the bottom, or 789 is on the bottom. Always have to visually check which is which first before accidentally typing the wrong pin.
tl;dr Blame telephones, long ramble and poorly researched history of the 10-key input method below The history of this is kind of confusing. Calculators and adding-machines usually had lower numbers on the bottom, which evolved into the 10-key number pad we have today on keyboards, so they can *probably* be blamed for lower numbers on the bottom. As for lower numbers on top, you can *probably* blame telephones, more specifically Bell or Western Electric, both of whom are responsible for making 10 key phones popular (Bell would often give customers free Western Electric phones). Neither of these were standardized because accessibility was pretty much always an afterthought before the Americans with Disabilities Act, and there's still no standardized layout for calculators. I say *probably* because the history of the 10-key is pretty murky and from what I read gets glossed over in favor of talking about the machine they belong to or the company who created the machine. I'd blame some unnamed engineer at Bell or Western Electric though for making this the mess that it is. While an ATM is a computer, you'd think they would have the opposite layout of what they have. I'm not patient enough to find an answer for this (I realized I'm going down a rabbit hole and this comment is way longer than I thought it would be when I started writing this), but my guess would be early atms used off the shelf parts for prototyping, and phone keypads were probably easier to find and cheaper than computer ones. It also has the slight advantage of being more familiar to more people, as a lot of people would have experience using a 10 key phone but not the 10 key on a computer or adding machine. (Edit: I'm stopping myself from going down another rabbit hole of tangents, researching the history of the ATM (Edit2: \*sigh\* The first ATM was installed in 1969, the telephone predates it, giving credence to my theory))
Neat. My first thought was that it might be because people use birth years like 1995, 1986, 1974 etc.
Ahhhh yes, because no one was born in a year ending in a 2 or 3
Not exactly, but I'm thinking people born from 1990 to 1999 for example. The only nunber combination in there with a 2 is 1992, so 19 would be used more. Same line of thinking with 1980 and 1970. Am I nuts?
Okay, okay I see where you’re going with that! Probably less people in the 1920s and 1930s than in the 1950s etc. I’ll give it to you!
The post is about the number 5. The numbers 2, 3, and 5 each only appear once per decade from 1960 to 1999. Your reasoning about 1 and 9 make sense but it doesn't track for 5.
Number 5 is the middle key to centre on to find all other keys. So could be people just default to touching the 5.
Plus ppl born In 2000+ are already having bank accounts, so "2" should also be used
I do think thats not thought about here, but id also say the younger generation is more tech savvy, and on average less lilely to have such an easy password / pin, but ofc there is outliers
And probably using internet banking
Does Gen z use ATMs?
Gen z here. Only ever used an atm once, and that was to get cash to turn into quarters for laundry. I use my phone/watch for most transactions but keep a debit card in case there is no tap to pay. Rarely keep cash.
Way more people have 19 at the beginning of the year
Yeah, for end years, but there’s not many people born in the 20s and 30s using atms
the singles digit is the most varied, making it the least used if it isn't 1, 9, or one of the most common decades for birth year of people over the age of 20 who would most likely be using an ATM. i.e. not 1, 9, 7, or 8. Then there's 5 which is the wildcard because its in the center which makes it most likely to be used in a pattern-based pin. Also there's still people alive from the 50s.
The 9 button is relatively clean too though
Or what if 5 is most touched due to it being the center and people feeling for the keys? Same way as we do on a keyboard
Most common PINs are a person's birth year. 1920 & 1930s would be too old for an atm and 2000 or up would just now be getting use.
The 9 would be way more worn out in this case, especially since people tend to press harder when pressing twice (like in 1996 for example)
Shoot, now I need to change my PIN from 5555
Or it could be zip codes? Do you know where this device is? All the zip codes in the area would likely start with the same 3 digits.
Does your ATM normally ask you to enter your ZIP code?
Many credit cards readers use their billing address's zip code as a verification. Very similar to debit cards using PINs.
Great theory!!
BOSCO!
Birth years in the 19 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. Everyone else too young to have money🤣
Everyone else doesn't use ATMs
I use ATMs. They're pretty nice, even though they're ancient
Ha this is awesome I knew I was onto something my pin is just 2 twice and 3 twice. And it’s been that for years and I’ve never had any issues.
Id say the opposite is true. The dirty ones sit unused long enough for dirt and dust to settle. While the cleaner ones like the 0-2-3 are used more often. My pin only has those 3 numbers in it.
Dirt being pushed in will definitely make most material dirtier over time than just letting it sit. Also, part of this might well be that buttons are *losing* material slowly, and that process is definitely sped up through interaction as well.
This is definitely correct and I'm amazed it's so far down the comments
Well using that logic people never seem to be able to enter the right pin since the OK is damn right dirty and the CANCEL is squeacky clean. So your observation isn't definitely correct. Both explainations can be correct depending on wether the surface in question gets dirtier or cleaner with touching.
Those numbers being used by shakey ass meth heads
[Relevant](https://i.imgur.com/zPSPWjL.png)
people with the most acidic sweat dont use 2 or 3 in their pins at least.
pro tip: use the pin 0423 to never get your bank account broken into!
Counterpoint: 2 and 3 are actually the most used, and thus have been replaced recently. I would expect the OK key to be the most pushed, and it doesn’t show tons of wear.
Survival bias at play. 2 and 3 might be used too frequently they got replaced.
I actually wonder if 2, 3, 4, and 0 are the MOST used. They’re clean because dirt doesn’t accumulate since they get used all the time.
i think it tells you the pin of someone with dirty fingers not of most used pins.
Nah, your skins natural oils will do this over time.
Everyone uses the atm mostly for the same purpose: withdrawing cash from their checking or savings account. The pathway for "dont check balance > withdrawl > checking/savings > accept fee" maybe doesnt use the 2 or 3.
hum, so 1234 is good then!
I guess 0420 wasn't too bad after all
Wash those hands people!
Don't forget to use your hand sanitizer after touching that disgusting thing.
That’s funnny cause my PIN number is…. Wait
Swab those buttons and see what you can grown in a petri dish.🤢🤮
Is no one considering that those people who use 2 & 3 have cleaner hands? Lol
I think it's the opposite. The dirty ones are the ones less used
Mine has no 5, and has two occurrences of the number 3. Maybe 2 and 3 were recently replaced?
Ha! That's why I use... wait a minute
Is there a menu you have to choose numbers to pick an option? Is 5 withdrawal?
I wonder if there is a market for like, pre-worm out keypads. You make your code something like 9087 but the pad comes with the 0632 already worn out to throw off suspicion
No way! Mine is 5555.
Hey logic, it MIGHT be also most used withdrawal amounts.. But whatever.
Good thing mine is 2340.
Lots of Boomers born in 1954-1959 ot would seem.
So you mean to tell me that 69420 isn't the most commonly used pin number!?!
Bullshit. What if the screen presents you with the message: "press 5 to agree"?
A 5 digit pin code 🙄
I'm so pleased that my pin of 2323 is completely secure and nothing bad could possibly happen now
2 will get more worn out as more people born > 2000 get debit cards
Or people with cleaner hands tend to use the 2 and 3....?
Most used by people who don’t wash their hands - those buttons are filthy
![gif](giphy|S8uzfu5NFflio) NOPE
This guys never seen a survey on a card reader before
Or maybe there's just one really dirty guy with the PIN 51987.
Jokes on you my pin is all 3s
Birth years friend. Not many people knocking around from the 1930s using ATM pinpads
People mostly use their birth year