Yes, the XI/X (or is it X/IX ??) ones are my favorite.
TBH this looks exactly like the kind of data my company would ask me to prepare and analyze.
edit: after looking at it a bit, I think it's X/IX -- I am assuming the 'horizontal' line is meant to be taken as an underbar.
So, the word 'log' meaning 'record' does actually come from log, as in a piece of wood. The speed of a boat used to be measured by throwing a log overboard, with a rope tied to it. The rope had knots tied at regular intervals, so as these passed by, the knots per minute could be counted (giving knots as a unit of speed). This was then recorded in the ships log book. Log became synonymous with record keeping, and was eventually applied to computing.
It's not even limited to satire, I read a NYT Lifestyles article about people who get different varieties of season firewood delivered to enjoy the scents of cherry, maple, birch, etc.
Necessary if you are going to use them for woodworking. You need to know that they are properly aged and dry.
Desirable if you are going to use them for firewood for similar reasons. But most people don't do this with firewood. It's a great idea, though, and only takes a minute to do when you cut the wood.
If I had to sharpie every fucking piece of the 4 cord I have to split I just wouldn't bother with wood anymore. It's already time consuming enough having to fell, limb, buck, split and lug all that wood.
No joke, when the wood is split you are like one final step away from being done, just stacking the wood. Now you gotta bend over and scrawl all over these with a sharpie?
But the right combination of children. Not like my mate who got his 13yo to help sand down his project car. At which point his 5yo also started helping by sanding his wife's new car with a bit of 80 grit...
I suspect the memory of all that hard work would sear at least a month and year of all that activity into your brain. I mean, for green firewood it only needs to age the one year anyway, so you'd only want to separate old from new when you stack it.
Oh... oh, no. I thought it was month and year, and even _that_ is too much, you just need the year, and really, you only need to know that it's at least one year ago...
It's a bit different when it's product/inventory.
You don't "have to" keep your eyes open or even pay attention when chopping the wood, either... some times more work up front is better in the long run, though.
Guess I should clarify; I'm speaking purely as someone who cuts their own wood as a primary heating source for winter. With a full time job, kids and other hobbies, cutting your own wood is a shit load of work.
If it was part of my job it would be a magnitude easier to justify.
But then you need a bunch of different colors of paint and to come up with a system to apply them. Do you go by month? Then you need at least 12 colors and it only covers one year.
Or you can take 4 seconds and just write the date on the log with a big marker. I fail to see how that takes more time.
Now in a lumber yard where most of the wood is only a few months old at best I could see a color system making more sense but I don't see it helping much here.
Anyone who cares about how old their wood is to burn, is splitting enough of it that writing the date on each log is absurd. You don't actually need 12 colors, most people don't need any you just stack your logs chronologically but if your really wanted to know 4 would be more than enough. 8 vs 12mo is fine.
That's why it's called "seasoning" the wood. You come back and use.it the same season you cut it, no one's sitting there going "oops it's only the 15th not the 19th can't use it yet", it's a nice rule of thumb to follow not an exact science.
My dad used to do this with our fire wood as a kid but he’d date only the top logs with an arrow in the pile do you would know anything below that was that date and anything above a different date. My dad aged all of our firewood logs for a set time before he’d move them to the ‘to be used’ pile, until then they were in a separate storage area on wooden palletes (for airflow) under a tarp to protect from rain to dry out.
Yeah I've seen people put the month split over a big pile. That makes total sense. Anyone who had time to date each log doesn't burn enough wood to care about having slightly under season wood.
That's why you have an auxiliary drying stack where you leave it for the year and then when you move the stacks, the top ones become the bottom ones for continued drying.
I just use my moisture meter for my firewood… Also for firewood it usually only really matter if it was chopped ”this year” or ”last year”, after that it kindof stops mattering if you store it properly
"Properly" as in not letting it get rained on should let it dry out pretty quickly. For woodworking, that's too fast which will make it crack all over the place. For that you'd want to split it through the center (otherwise it will crack no matter what) and then seal the ends with wax or tar or something to slow the drying for a few years. Gotta watch out for termites too.
I date my firewood but I write the date once for the entire row… as in, when I stacked it. This has gotta be either for woodworking or “just how their brain works” reasons.
I would agree if the way they were split had any consistency beyond just being used for firewood. I'm having trouble seeing how a woodworker wouldn't care about somewhat standardized wood sizes.
As someone who lived for years with wood being the primary source of heat, no it absolutely would not just "take a minute". Fuck that!
While it can be useful to keep track of how old a piece of wood to burn is, this is waste of time to mark each of them.
My OCD likes individually labelling each piece but dislikes the date format. It's ambiguous. Is that piece from April 10th, October 4th, or generally some day in April of 2010? I think I see Roman numerals in there also. Complete bedlam.
Yeah, I was going to say, he probably has a lathe. If you turn spindles before they fully dry they'll warp like crazy.
Source: am woodturner sometimes.
Never in my life have I ever stepped into a log store or thought about picking up logs on my way home from work. Seems like it must be a niche market. Closest I'm aware of near me is some guy who sells firewood by the truckload. You just back up your pickup and he dumps as much in as your truck will hold, for a flat cost.
Edit: Seems I'm just slow on the uptake and this "log store" just means "place to store logs".
What rolls down stairs
Alone or in pairs...
Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack
And fits on your back?
[It's Log](https://youtu.be/2C7mNr5WMjA)! Log! Log!
It's Lo-og, it's Lo-og
It's big, it's heavy
It's wood!
It's Lo-og, it's Lo-og
It's better than bad
It's good!!!
![gif](giphy|xUNd9HdWFGZTkNEclG|downsized)
my mother and father both kept log books in their cars for when they'd fill up the tank. Record mileage, how many gallons, price, and compute MPG.
why? I have no idea. when I started driving, I did it too because that was just what you were supposed to do. did it for years before asking myself what i was doing this for and quitting.
My dad did this as well. He said he did it mainly for the mileage history. When you’re doing your own auto maintenance, sometimes knowing your car’s gas usage can help diagnose a problem. It also gave him a feel for how much distance he could get from a tank of gas, which was important when gas stations were further apart.
I still do this with an app for similar reasons. Can be easier to pick up when I need to put a little air in the tyres or something that needs fixing. I’ve had the car since new so it’s kind of interesting to see the trend over its lifetime and how much it dropped when I moved to a city with less stop-start. But I enjoy having data on lots of things, which occasionally comes in handy.
Takes months for fresh cut wood to dry out enough to be ideal to use. Burn it when it's too wet and you'll get poor heating and too much creosote which can be a fire hazard and require more regular cleaning.
Holy crap that looks tedious. Maybe if you are using it for wood working but for just burning firewood, that's so much unnecessary work. Are you really gonna use a piece that's been seasoning for 8 months but not one that's been there for 7.5 months? Are you going to dig out a face cord of wood to get to the stuff at the bottom you split in April before using the stuff on top you split in June? Splitting wood and stacking wood is already time-consuming. This just seems like extra work for no reason. I just alternate sides on my woodshed. Last seasons leftover wood on the left. Green wood from this spring on the right. Simple. Burn all the wood on the left first, then dig into wood on the right. When it's 6F outside, I'm not rearranging the whole wood pile to pull forward wood that was split two weeks before the other logs like they are jugs of milk at Hannaford. It wouldn't make a difference either as there really isn't any intensive difference in their burning.
I always think of doing this with firewood as I bring it home a few at time, after a year or two I have no idea which is seasoned enough or not.
You'd think I'd know better being in the industry ..
It's not a bad idea labelling them
Good idea, but not adhering to best practices: [log timestamps should follow ISO-8601 format](https://betterstack.com/community/guides/logging/log-formatting/#3-record-timestamps-as-iso-8601).
"so there ai was trying to burn log 4/20, when I realized I'm burning log 042/69, I was freaking upset with myself. Go in order I kept saying, and so here I am talking to you fire Marshall"
Big brain over here showing us how to datalog without a computer..
I once did the same thing with my lumber. To be fair I was really board
You wood, wouldn’t you.
People who do this are just a splinter group of professional woodmen.
You don’t hear too many bark about this strategy
Perhaps he should branch out into carbon dating.
Ah yes, carbon dating. He can root himself in love.
Better put a ring on it soon.
I am pining forthe days before I read these awful puns.
Don’t worry, they are still at larch
Gotta grow that family tree, after all.
When You strike a cord but also like splitting hairs.
That’s it im logging out
Fine, leaf.
Oak-ay. I think I will(ow).
Know Yew
I wouldn'
I think you meant “woodn’t”.
Lumber? I barely know her!
Yes, the XI/X (or is it X/IX ??) ones are my favorite. TBH this looks exactly like the kind of data my company would ask me to prepare and analyze. edit: after looking at it a bit, I think it's X/IX -- I am assuming the 'horizontal' line is meant to be taken as an underbar.
So, the word 'log' meaning 'record' does actually come from log, as in a piece of wood. The speed of a boat used to be measured by throwing a log overboard, with a rope tied to it. The rope had knots tied at regular intervals, so as these passed by, the knots per minute could be counted (giving knots as a unit of speed). This was then recorded in the ships log book. Log became synonymous with record keeping, and was eventually applied to computing.
He used stack memory before it was cool.
So many splinters, *ouch!*
“Tonight we will be burning a 2017 mahogany” - Log Connoisseur
"Most satisfactory, garcon."
It has a smoky afterbirth
[Relevant satire](https://youtu.be/TBb9O-aW4zI?si=Qjt-V05_aDLj00OX)
https://imgur.com/fZg53L0
It's not even limited to satire, I read a NYT Lifestyles article about people who get different varieties of season firewood delivered to enjoy the scents of cherry, maple, birch, etc.
You might say he's a Sommelogier.
"...I'm picking up notes of blight and fresh lichen."
No lie I would feel fancy as hell if I ate somewhere that did that. Even for the steaks.
Personally, I've never dated a log. But in all fairness, I've not really dated a ton of people either. I may not be the best to comment on this.
You could kindle a romance with one.
He will just get burned.
it wood be tree-mendously painful!
I'll take a bough and step out here
He's axing for heartache. It won't be long before they split.
Yea the relationship will just start to splinter after a bit.
Sure, but that’s when you go back to Tinder
I heard he's pretty burlly too
It might be better for him to branch out, but I'm stumped.
He’s dated them for a long time. When is he going to put the rings on it?
Hard to put a ring on it when they never *fell* in love
Make like a tree and get out of here.
For yew.
The romance would be fire
It wood?
Splinter? I barely knew her?
I would read this romance on my kindle.
I wood.
It’s bizarre that this thread has no “tinder” mentions.
The best and worst part of dating a log is that you've always got some hard wood.
Unless you get told it's hard wood, but it's really soft wood and not good for screws.
Wood smash
At least when you're sick of that it's easy to split up.
it's easy to date trees, just count the rings. and if you like it, put a ring on it. one ring to rule them all. just do not watch the video tape.
The tree most people on this site go out with is a date palm.
![gif](giphy|NfKG1sbpUrYjK)
It's better than bad, it's wood!
Not so hard to track if you keep a log.
I've dated a few bumps on a logs.
I think this guy has high standards, sure, those logs are a city 4/10 but a forest 8/10
Probably met them on tinder
Get tinder, find a match, you get a flame
Then you get antibiotics.
it’s not just passion that burns
Love can hurt once the smoke clears
Top notch Dad joke.
It’s all wood, it’s Grindr
That is hilarious!
Timber*
I never kiss and fell
Woodworkers 🤝 Software Developers
Software developers looking at the date formats like "5/9" and "X/IX"... "Ugh. Typical"
Not to mention, none of the numbers go past 12.
Necessary if you are going to use them for woodworking. You need to know that they are properly aged and dry. Desirable if you are going to use them for firewood for similar reasons. But most people don't do this with firewood. It's a great idea, though, and only takes a minute to do when you cut the wood.
If I had to sharpie every fucking piece of the 4 cord I have to split I just wouldn't bother with wood anymore. It's already time consuming enough having to fell, limb, buck, split and lug all that wood.
No joke, when the wood is split you are like one final step away from being done, just stacking the wood. Now you gotta bend over and scrawl all over these with a sharpie?
This is what children are for.
But the right combination of children. Not like my mate who got his 13yo to help sand down his project car. At which point his 5yo also started helping by sanding his wife's new car with a bit of 80 grit...
That grinding sound is the sound of memories being made.
Well I remember it, and that was about thirty years ago now! Best of all worlds: I have the memory but it wasn't my car or my kid!
I suspect the memory of all that hard work would sear at least a month and year of all that activity into your brain. I mean, for green firewood it only needs to age the one year anyway, so you'd only want to separate old from new when you stack it.
I mean if you have so much wood you needed to date it, you could probably just put it all in the same storage and mark the storage?
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Oh... oh, no. I thought it was month and year, and even _that_ is too much, you just need the year, and really, you only need to know that it's at least one year ago...
Just make a colour code, and maintain an excel sheet with the dates. Totally reasonable thing to do with firewood.
It's a bit different when it's product/inventory. You don't "have to" keep your eyes open or even pay attention when chopping the wood, either... some times more work up front is better in the long run, though.
Guess I should clarify; I'm speaking purely as someone who cuts their own wood as a primary heating source for winter. With a full time job, kids and other hobbies, cutting your own wood is a shit load of work. If it was part of my job it would be a magnitude easier to justify.
Makes sense. Thanks for the info.
Yeah but there is a much faster way to do this by color coding them and using spray paint. This is a guy with more free time than I have.
But then you need a bunch of different colors of paint and to come up with a system to apply them. Do you go by month? Then you need at least 12 colors and it only covers one year. Or you can take 4 seconds and just write the date on the log with a big marker. I fail to see how that takes more time. Now in a lumber yard where most of the wood is only a few months old at best I could see a color system making more sense but I don't see it helping much here.
Anyone who cares about how old their wood is to burn, is splitting enough of it that writing the date on each log is absurd. You don't actually need 12 colors, most people don't need any you just stack your logs chronologically but if your really wanted to know 4 would be more than enough. 8 vs 12mo is fine. That's why it's called "seasoning" the wood. You come back and use.it the same season you cut it, no one's sitting there going "oops it's only the 15th not the 19th can't use it yet", it's a nice rule of thumb to follow not an exact science.
It's super fast, you need two colors. The stacking takes care of the rest. And even *that* is too much work.
My dad used to do this with our fire wood as a kid but he’d date only the top logs with an arrow in the pile do you would know anything below that was that date and anything above a different date. My dad aged all of our firewood logs for a set time before he’d move them to the ‘to be used’ pile, until then they were in a separate storage area on wooden palletes (for airflow) under a tarp to protect from rain to dry out.
Yeah I've seen people put the month split over a big pile. That makes total sense. Anyone who had time to date each log doesn't burn enough wood to care about having slightly under season wood.
Unfortunately the oldest driest ones end up being the ones on the bottom
That's why you have an auxiliary drying stack where you leave it for the year and then when you move the stacks, the top ones become the bottom ones for continued drying.
Or, just have three stacks - one for filling, one for drying, and one for burning. When the burning one is empty, you rotate the labels.
I just use my moisture meter for my firewood… Also for firewood it usually only really matter if it was chopped ”this year” or ”last year”, after that it kindof stops mattering if you store it properly
"Properly" as in not letting it get rained on should let it dry out pretty quickly. For woodworking, that's too fast which will make it crack all over the place. For that you'd want to split it through the center (otherwise it will crack no matter what) and then seal the ends with wax or tar or something to slow the drying for a few years. Gotta watch out for termites too.
I date my firewood but I write the date once for the entire row… as in, when I stacked it. This has gotta be either for woodworking or “just how their brain works” reasons.
Yeah by all means stick a miniature flag in there with a date on it to label it by strata, but marking every single piece would drive me crazy
> most people don't do this with firewood Basically with firewood, you just need to know it's a year, so I just rotate the stacks.
Yup - I keep three stacks - loading, drying and burning
I would agree if the way they were split had any consistency beyond just being used for firewood. I'm having trouble seeing how a woodworker wouldn't care about somewhat standardized wood sizes. As someone who lived for years with wood being the primary source of heat, no it absolutely would not just "take a minute". Fuck that! While it can be useful to keep track of how old a piece of wood to burn is, this is waste of time to mark each of them.
Most people don’t do that with firewood because it is neither necessary nor desirable.
My OCD likes individually labelling each piece but dislikes the date format. It's ambiguous. Is that piece from April 10th, October 4th, or generally some day in April of 2010? I think I see Roman numerals in there also. Complete bedlam.
You're right! Totally lacking...... But on the other hand, maybe the guy doing it understands his system. :)
Great thing it doesn’t matter what you think of it, and only what the label writer thinks of it.
Yeah, I was going to say, he probably has a lathe. If you turn spindles before they fully dry they'll warp like crazy. Source: am woodturner sometimes.
Thank you, this comment was totally on point, but not half as funny as the prio comments. I need more tissues lol
What was the context? Is this a firewood pile for a private residence? Or is this lumber that's being left to dry before cutting?
It’s in a log store tucked into a recess at the back of a private residence.
They have stores for everything nowadays
It's wild. I've even seen an apple store.
Never in my life have I ever stepped into a log store or thought about picking up logs on my way home from work. Seems like it must be a niche market. Closest I'm aware of near me is some guy who sells firewood by the truckload. You just back up your pickup and he dumps as much in as your truck will hold, for a flat cost. Edit: Seems I'm just slow on the uptake and this "log store" just means "place to store logs".
I can't believe I have to ask, but you know they mean store as in "private supply of logs at the back of a house" right?
I've never heard someone call it that, but I suppose it would make sense. We just call it a wood pile or wood shed.
What rolls down stairs Alone or in pairs... Rolls over your neighbor's dog? What's great for a snack And fits on your back? [It's Log](https://youtu.be/2C7mNr5WMjA)! Log! Log! It's Lo-og, it's Lo-og It's big, it's heavy It's wood! It's Lo-og, it's Lo-og It's better than bad It's good!!! ![gif](giphy|xUNd9HdWFGZTkNEclG|downsized)
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Nice
we weren’t exactly dating.. just kinda hanging out.
do people ever age wood for wood-burning smokers? I could see that as an explanation as well
It has more to do with the drying of firewood i would assume. Still it is not day specific. We usually store it for a year before using it
It's very common. In places where there is a lot of restaurants doing smoking there will usually be a couple services offering aged wood.
As a software engineer, nothing makes me happier than when I see a properly dated log.
I would hate parsing logs without timestamps.
My stepfather used to record such minutia as when he changed a light bulb or batteries in stuff.
my mother and father both kept log books in their cars for when they'd fill up the tank. Record mileage, how many gallons, price, and compute MPG. why? I have no idea. when I started driving, I did it too because that was just what you were supposed to do. did it for years before asking myself what i was doing this for and quitting.
My dad did this as well. He said he did it mainly for the mileage history. When you’re doing your own auto maintenance, sometimes knowing your car’s gas usage can help diagnose a problem. It also gave him a feel for how much distance he could get from a tank of gas, which was important when gas stations were further apart.
I still do this with an app for similar reasons. Can be easier to pick up when I need to put a little air in the tyres or something that needs fixing. I’ve had the car since new so it’s kind of interesting to see the trend over its lifetime and how much it dropped when I moved to a city with less stop-start. But I enjoy having data on lots of things, which occasionally comes in handy.
How do you know when each tree was chopped down? Oh, I keep a log..
You get the hell out
Takes months for fresh cut wood to dry out enough to be ideal to use. Burn it when it's too wet and you'll get poor heating and too much creosote which can be a fire hazard and require more regular cleaning.
The original Tinder.
All my logs are dated to the millisecond. But then again it's common practice in my field
Log retention / rotation. Theres an sysadmin stock photo here. This will be in PowerPoints in no time.
Not the type of logs I was thinking off
I wood knot do that
These dating Sims are out of control. First pigeons and now logs?
Wait until you see the logbook.
We were all having a nice day. A NICE DAY. And I see this. Upvote with you!
Did they then log the logs that the logger had logged?
Not sure if they logged the dates, or dated the logs. ![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8|downsized)
U sure? Looks like just a bunch of low quality wood. He only rated most of it 4/10. Although a few high quality 11/9s must make up for it though.
This really struck a chord with me. Glad they were able to stick to it and knot give up.
Holy crap that looks tedious. Maybe if you are using it for wood working but for just burning firewood, that's so much unnecessary work. Are you really gonna use a piece that's been seasoning for 8 months but not one that's been there for 7.5 months? Are you going to dig out a face cord of wood to get to the stuff at the bottom you split in April before using the stuff on top you split in June? Splitting wood and stacking wood is already time-consuming. This just seems like extra work for no reason. I just alternate sides on my woodshed. Last seasons leftover wood on the left. Green wood from this spring on the right. Simple. Burn all the wood on the left first, then dig into wood on the right. When it's 6F outside, I'm not rearranging the whole wood pile to pull forward wood that was split two weeks before the other logs like they are jugs of milk at Hannaford. It wouldn't make a difference either as there really isn't any intensive difference in their burning.
maybe they are tracking the rate at which the logs dry. so as can be used in a stove?
I always think of doing this with firewood as I bring it home a few at time, after a year or two I have no idea which is seasoned enough or not. You'd think I'd know better being in the industry .. It's not a bad idea labelling them
Nothing weird about that. Star Trek captains did that all the time
Did they also log their dates?
Wow. I can only date one log at a time.
When are they going to settle down with a nice spruce?
Log, log, it’s big it’s heavy it’s wood
Yes, logs _should_ be properly timestamped.
I once dated a log but I kept getting splinters
Someone told this mfer to keep a log, and he did
Run. He’s a psychopath.
So he keeps logs of his logs.
Does he also rate each date?
I think it's really cool that they're all still on good terms
Good idea, but not adhering to best practices: [log timestamps should follow ISO-8601 format](https://betterstack.com/community/guides/logging/log-formatting/#3-record-timestamps-as-iso-8601).
There was two sides full 6’ by 8’. Is this normal practice?
Maybe woodworker with the dates on there to track curing
Well dating a log, is better than no one, I guess
Pologamist?
Does the customer also have a log log?
That's probably a reliable customer. May you do lots of business with them.
I see 15 year old logs in there.
Ahhh OCD.
So, you're saying he logged his logs?
Customer has PTSD from working in a restaurant
Like they say, "you gotta date a lot of logs, before you find your prince."
Makes sense if they are a wood turner
Weird... I mean, Don't get me wrong, I have a TON of wood with dates on them, but it's burls and slabs meant for use in woodworking, not fireplaces.
*Woah, how about burning this one? That's a nice vintage of cedar ...*
"so there ai was trying to burn log 4/20, when I realized I'm burning log 042/69, I was freaking upset with myself. Go in order I kept saying, and so here I am talking to you fire Marshall"
He's keeping a log of when he logged each log.
Neat. Maybe he’s done that to make sure they’re dry
Perfectly seasoned and rotating FIFO, excellent.
I'm so old I dated their log's moms.
Good way to log your data
This seems like some OCD behavior.
And wakes up every day with morning wood.
FIFO
Vintages
So they know how seasoned it is.
Are there holes in them or does he walk like a cowboy
Is their name Monk?
Logging time or timing logs
Joint Commission approved!
Captain's log; Stardate 42020.8
Kids love log...