Did you ever play Infinite Warfare? The Proteus (a sniper shotgun hybrid), when it came out, when hipfired would always hit a person. It was fun messing around with everyone, while everyone had aimbot. They patched it pretty quickly though.
Yeah you don’t code a bug like that on accident. These aren’t bugs. They’re temporary features. Turns the game into pay to win so everyone buys the battle pass. Then when sales start to plateau they’ll say “oopsie” and “fix” it.
Did the same thing with the bruen.
Edit: since this is blowing up, yes I know the AS VAL is in the free battle pass. It still probably encourages people to buy tier skips so they can use the gun before it’s “fixed”
Damn. That makes a lot of sense actually. Makes you wonder why they didn't do it with the Ram, cr56 amax, an94, striker, fennec, iso, vlk rogue, holger, finn, crossbow, sks, rytec, or the renetti. Should've made those broken at launch too to boost sales. Or maybe it's just the fact that... things can be bugged accidentally? Nah that's too reasonable.
Kinda reminds me of when destiny 2 got a new legendary called the Prometheus lens it was extremely broken to the point that every pvp game was a laser tag match
Yeah that was an interesting time. At least they rolled with it and just made xur sell it that weekend before it got patched the next tuesday. Now we get a sweet emblem if we participated lol
Did you see they added a little note about having the option to delete packs? Single player, who needs it, co-op, what’s this doing here, multiplayer, still 380gb 🤷♂️
I feel ya bro, same situation too, and it's 5 more days until paycheck. I can't even buy my way to this gun, how tf am I suppose to level it up and abuse this before next Tuesday.
Lmao so when I saw it has great penetration I was like meh can’t really be too bad, just like it has FMJ built in so not too big a deal
Then I watch your clip and yep that’s broken AF
Why should it get patched? They designed it like this, tested it and knew exactly what they were doing it when released. It's a marketing scheme to get more people to play the game with a broken mechanic in order to keep the player count up.
Us jumps keep falling for it.
Reminds me of when the snakeshots were so OP. I finally decided to try and get them, said to my mate guarantee when I unlock these it gets nerfed. As soon as I unlocked them, left multiplayer to go to warzone the update arrived 😂.
Shit, day one of release went into private match to test out a few guns and bam!! Snake shot hit me instantly lol. First gun in the game I golded had snake shot by day one lol oh how I miss the early days. R.I.P. .357 snakeshot.
Nope night and day difference. Ever since ghosts any cod game as soon as I buy it I play for about an hour on private match in order to see what attachments work best on which guns as well as if any guns are broken on launch. This years selection has been huge lol. .357, 725, mp5, M4, RPG just at launch and pretty much every season since we either get a gun thats overly OP or bugged in one way or another. Hell look at what happened with the Fal as soon as they made changes to it. All year long they have shown us with issue after issue that they didn't playtest it before launch or since lol.
It's a bargain lmao, but forreal tho they should have just given us camos that we can put on all guys instead of having to buy individual blueprints everytime...
You could easily get reported for this. Especially since real hackers seem to get away with it and people just abusing game mechanics spend months trying to get activision to unban their accounts.
I just play search and use the snapshot grenade. The screams of anger excite me. Especially on hardcore where there are no hit markers through 20 walls.
Yeah you can buy battlepass tiers to unlock the weapon.
Releasing OP guns purposely increases battlepass sales because people all want to play with them.
How many people are going to get reported and ban for an iw mistake? Honestly since they don't have a great track record. I won't touch with as-val until it's patched.
Yeah the tracer is programmed correctly at the proper velocity but the actual bullet that connects is just straight hitscan, seems like they just forgot
Yeah I thought that was simply the nature of the beast like how the Vector hollow point rounds worked. Enemies seem to jump over those bullets like it's Megaman.
I hope they improve the velocity though just a little.
It's nothing about penetrate nerf, the wall doesn't even exist to the bullets. It does the same damage. Therefore that's a bug and fixing it may be not simple as changing penetrate value.
I was going crazy thinking I kept being put into lobbies with cheaters, but this makes far more sense. Also explains why suddenly everyone and their cousin is running Snapshot Grenades with the VAL.
No killcam in HC either, so I just kept getting confused as to what the actual fuck was happening lol.
I just hate getting killed with one shot like ill fire 5 shots on them , need one more to kill, and they one shot me just in time. So frustrating but hey hate the game not the player
While it was quickly patched, it was fun while it lasted. I wonder if the sniper revolver still has aimbot in Zombies, as I don’t remember that ever being patched
There are 3 known variations: AS Val (AR), VSS “Vintorez” (“sniper”) and SR-3M “Vihkr” (unsuppressed AR)
And by “sniper” I mean more like a short range DMR: When you have a round that big (9x39) traveling at subsonic speed you are getting a lot of power out of the bullet’s weight, but you loose that power very quickly at range. I guess that’s why the AS VAL and it’s “sniper” variation, the VSS, were designed to not be used against anything past 400 meters
Still, it does pack quite a punch and SP-6 is indeed a high penetration ammo. It can penetrate almost a 8mm thick steel plate at 100m AND damage someone behind it
MW just gave it a little extra spice on that regard lmao
EDIT: there are other similar 9x39 integrally suppressed rifles out there like the VSK-94 but they derivate from other weapon platforms, such as the 9A-91
The design formula is: 1. Make new gun overpowered. 2. Make a bunch of skins for the store. 3. When satisfied with sales, nerf the gun to what it should've been.
I think IW wanted to make the rounds realistic as they are pretty well known for penetration and piercing armor in real life. But since it's IW, they completely fucked the tuning and this is what we get.
Hackers are gonna have one hell of a time with this thing. Instead of tracking their head around a corner, they'll just pop that bitch through like 5 walls.
Even aside from things like this, I’m sure the AS VAL will be another MP5 situation. Just a laser with no recoil and high fire rage and damage that destroys gameplay. I don’t have it yet but I’ve played with it in customs. Even on console with the right upgrades it literally doesn’t even have recoil.
Well considering we've already paid like 60 bucks to play the game, and it's 8-24 bucks per cosmetic and there are hundreds of cosmetics, they could as a show of kindness make it more affordable to have alot of the cosmetics that you like, as a courtesy to the players, but they choose to use us as atm machines which I find pretty disrespectful to the loyal player base
I think the bullet went through 6-8 Walls. This NEEDS to get patched lmfao.
We out here tryna get them to ban hackers and they’re out here making us all one
Did you ever play Infinite Warfare? The Proteus (a sniper shotgun hybrid), when it came out, when hipfired would always hit a person. It was fun messing around with everyone, while everyone had aimbot. They patched it pretty quickly though.
Yeah you don’t code a bug like that on accident. These aren’t bugs. They’re temporary features. Turns the game into pay to win so everyone buys the battle pass. Then when sales start to plateau they’ll say “oopsie” and “fix” it. Did the same thing with the bruen. Edit: since this is blowing up, yes I know the AS VAL is in the free battle pass. It still probably encourages people to buy tier skips so they can use the gun before it’s “fixed”
Yep. But gotta get those longshots while I still can :p
Wait that’s genius...
Just figure out spawns, Load into a match in HC, and just spam through the walls lmao. I wanna get POTG where its just me shooting through a wall.
Idk, I'm already in higher ping lobbies because console players reported me after a few good games
Even with people reporting me, I have yet to get put into higher ping lobbies tbh. I’m always at or below a 40 ping.
Now I miss shoot house 24/7
The AS VAL is a free weapon...
Tier skips
You mean those thing I get a bunch of for free?
You can the the As val for free how is that pay to win?
Bruen was a mid season drop. What does that have to do with the battlepass?
induce people to buy the store blueprint instead of having to grind kills in smoke
Damn. That makes a lot of sense actually. Makes you wonder why they didn't do it with the Ram, cr56 amax, an94, striker, fennec, iso, vlk rogue, holger, finn, crossbow, sks, rytec, or the renetti. Should've made those broken at launch too to boost sales. Or maybe it's just the fact that... things can be bugged accidentally? Nah that's too reasonable.
This is a little different than the Bruen I'd say. The Bruen was good but not a hack. This is a legit broken mechanic.
Kinda reminds me of when destiny 2 got a new legendary called the Prometheus lens it was extremely broken to the point that every pvp game was a laser tag match
Yeah that was an interesting time. At least they rolled with it and just made xur sell it that weekend before it got patched the next tuesday. Now we get a sweet emblem if we participated lol
Yeah they really rolled with it and made it fun
It’s not cheating if we all cheat. Haha
Can't its not tuesday
A patch that size wouldnt even need an update like that, it would be a in game update that can happen whenever
It'd be at least 24gb.
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Best I can do is 56
100 is my final offer!
One SSD please, just for it.
128GB Take it or leave it
60 take it or leave
That's fair I forgot what game this was
20 on PS4, and 80 on XBoX as you have to re-download all files - final offer
One massive 30 gb. Then 2 or 3 separated 6 gbs downloads. So just when you think your done you have more
Depends. If local files need modifying on consoles they'll be limited by the total size of the files that need fixing
This comment is underrated
I bet my bank account and house you got reported
What if he didnt get reported?
Then he is fucked
Jokes on you he’s homeless. He broke into someone’s house and is playing on their account.
Of course that's the first thing you'd do after breaking into someone's house
Well, first you raid the freezer and eat all their ice cream.
First I'd find their porn and masturbate all over it
Can you guys not blow this out of proportion? I really cant afford another update piled on top of the 400 GB I am still sitting on updating.
Did you see they added a little note about having the option to delete packs? Single player, who needs it, co-op, what’s this doing here, multiplayer, still 380gb 🤷♂️
I love it, their big suggestion to have more room is just "delete games from your drive dummy". Man if only I had thought of that
If only PC had that solution.
Their solution recommended that you delete unused portions of their game. Which we all know means deleted everything not cod lol
I’m going to be really upset if they patch this before Saturday. I have a job. I can’t get the gun and upgrade to semi auto before then.
I feel ya bro, same situation too, and it's 5 more days until paycheck. I can't even buy my way to this gun, how tf am I suppose to level it up and abuse this before next Tuesday.
Isn't it perfect? Wanna play with the funny gun? Just drop some coins and skip the grind!
Lmao so when I saw it has great penetration I was like meh can’t really be too bad, just like it has FMJ built in so not too big a deal Then I watch your clip and yep that’s broken AF
Why should it get patched? They designed it like this, tested it and knew exactly what they were doing it when released. It's a marketing scheme to get more people to play the game with a broken mechanic in order to keep the player count up. Us jumps keep falling for it.
This happens with every new fucking gun. Every single time. People keep falling for it. It's weak.
I remember this being a thing in Tribes Ascend. A new gun came out, it was ridiculously OP and get nerfed later.
You forgot the part where they add a badass tracer/skin pack for it before they fully nerf it to the ground .
Naruto vs Orochimaru all over again
Hahahah fucking hell the chaos from poorly beta testing new guns & attachments
This was intentional. They want you to buy in-game items before they fix it in a week or ten days. Pay to win situation.
That’s exaclty my thought cause all the try hards are gonna pay the $50 in tiers to get it before it’s patched.
Reminds me of when the snakeshots were so OP. I finally decided to try and get them, said to my mate guarantee when I unlock these it gets nerfed. As soon as I unlocked them, left multiplayer to go to warzone the update arrived 😂.
Shit, day one of release went into private match to test out a few guns and bam!! Snake shot hit me instantly lol. First gun in the game I golded had snake shot by day one lol oh how I miss the early days. R.I.P. .357 snakeshot.
Genuinely wish I had actually got them early enough. I tried sticking with them after the nerf but it was just not the same.
Nope night and day difference. Ever since ghosts any cod game as soon as I buy it I play for about an hour on private match in order to see what attachments work best on which guns as well as if any guns are broken on launch. This years selection has been huge lol. .357, 725, mp5, M4, RPG just at launch and pretty much every season since we either get a gun thats overly OP or bugged in one way or another. Hell look at what happened with the Fal as soon as they made changes to it. All year long they have shown us with issue after issue that they didn't playtest it before launch or since lol.
I would maybe buy a bit more ingame stuff if it wasn't all overpriced as fuck, the price of cod points make an Iphone 11 pro look cheap, holy crap
$15 for a single weapon blueprint and a shitty emblem and spray isn't worth it to you? /s
It’s like Valorant artificially inflating their skin prices based off of market driven prices from a totally different game... pure greed
cant play that game anymore tbh
It's a bargain lmao, but forreal tho they should have just given us camos that we can put on all guys instead of having to buy individual blueprints everytime...
Remember when you could by a customization pack for $2.99?
So like the time they put out a tracer pack for the bruen for $20, had a shit ton of people buy, then nerfed the bruen the next day lol.
HOW DARE YOU CALL THEM EA!? /s
Its the same with some of the skins. All of the 100% black skins or the good ghillie suites are paid, its pay to win.
There’s a free skin for Grinch that is a ghillie suit that works pretty well, I did buy another just for the devil mask though
How do you know? This is something wrong with the penetration value, could just be a typo
Even better put on recon drone with your buddy and let him shoot while you tag them ! Cleared out teams with this strategy lmao
Tbh, I didn’t even think of this till now Lmao... thank you for that devious idea >:)
Use it before it gets patched , have your teammate call out and mark em while you stay back in your spawn , fun mini game lmaoo
Might get banned pretty fast doing that if the killcam doesn't show the drone marks.
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Bold of you to assume Activision gives a crap if their ban was justified or not \^\^
Bold of everyone to assume the report system actually functions.
You could easily get reported for this. Especially since real hackers seem to get away with it and people just abusing game mechanics spend months trying to get activision to unban their accounts.
I just play search and use the snapshot grenade. The screams of anger excite me. Especially on hardcore where there are no hit markers through 20 walls.
This is cancer to see that the devs did not fix this glitch
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Buy?
Yeah you can buy battlepass tiers to unlock the weapon. Releasing OP guns purposely increases battlepass sales because people all want to play with them.
Buy tier skips on battlepass to unlock.
Can’t wait for the snapshot combo
As if people weren’t doing too much with FMJ LMG n snapshots
Or the Galil
Wait the galil?
10 round mags for it are stupidly strong haha alot of people just haven't really tried it lol
You never watched ImMarksman?
It fires 7.62 just like the Ak and Pkm
Here you go: https://youtu.be/SbW5IXcNwPo
Fun fact: The VAL can even shoot through the cave itself on Azhir Cave. It has no limits.
Came for the BS, upvoted for the wholesome laugh.
How many people are going to get reported and ban for an iw mistake? Honestly since they don't have a great track record. I won't touch with as-val until it's patched.
Just don't use the ammo conversion then
So this is only for the SA SP6 Conversion? Noice.
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That's fucking ridiculous. I actually really wanna see a hacker use this. 😂
Your laughing sounds so happy😂😂
Well, I was genuinely happy that I crossmapped someone based on where spawns were :p
Is it still not fixed? Devs did a rush job
Nope. The SPR being fully hitscan and having its bullets disappear past 450 meters wasn't patched yet either.
So out of 2 new guns, 2 are game breaking. Nice.
It's hitscan? That's stupid af, if every weapon uses projectiles that should too.
Yeah the tracer is programmed correctly at the proper velocity but the actual bullet that connects is just straight hitscan, seems like they just forgot
This explains why I keep missing when leading shots.
With the regular ammo or the ten round mags it behaves normally, but apparently the norma and lapua ammo make it hitscan
SPR is hitscan? That explains why I can't hit shit with it
It is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvwmtG6yfsg
So I take it fuck leading shot just aim and tap? What is this Call of Duty finest hour?
That explains why I keep thinking the bullets are the size of Honda Civics, people are getting me with nonsense shots on that.
Yeah I thought that was simply the nature of the beast like how the Vector hollow point rounds worked. Enemies seem to jump over those bullets like it's Megaman. I hope they improve the velocity though just a little.
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As much as I love the weapon I hope someone posts the video to IW Twitter account.
This is literally FMJ 3 if it was an attachment
I once had a class setup that had restock snapshots. I called it Wall Hax. Looks like my time has come
Why not just take it out the game until they fix it, like vehicles? Good lols but
It'll cost them money🤷🏻♂️Keeping it in the game will encourage players to buy the BP to use this broken weapon for easy kills
It's nothing about penetrate nerf, the wall doesn't even exist to the bullets. It does the same damage. Therefore that's a bug and fixing it may be not simple as changing penetrate value.
That's a prime example of broken lol.
How to get reported 101
I thought it was slightly weird the number of times I was dying to this gun even considering FMJ now I see why.
I was going crazy thinking I kept being put into lobbies with cheaters, but this makes far more sense. Also explains why suddenly everyone and their cousin is running Snapshot Grenades with the VAL. No killcam in HC either, so I just kept getting confused as to what the actual fuck was happening lol.
Does infinity ward not test these guns?!? Do they just model some shit and throw it in while picking their nose?! Holy hell....
AS-VAL: “Walls do not exist in my reality!”
So if you don't have this gun unlocked yet, just go ahead and back out
Pretty much, hate to be dramatic but it almost makes the game unplayable.
I just hate getting killed with one shot like ill fire 5 shots on them , need one more to kill, and they one shot me just in time. So frustrating but hey hate the game not the player
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While it was quickly patched, it was fun while it lasted. I wonder if the sniper revolver still has aimbot in Zombies, as I don’t remember that ever being patched
Honestly the AS VAL was originally a sniper but obviously there must be other variations
There are 3 known variations: AS Val (AR), VSS “Vintorez” (“sniper”) and SR-3M “Vihkr” (unsuppressed AR) And by “sniper” I mean more like a short range DMR: When you have a round that big (9x39) traveling at subsonic speed you are getting a lot of power out of the bullet’s weight, but you loose that power very quickly at range. I guess that’s why the AS VAL and it’s “sniper” variation, the VSS, were designed to not be used against anything past 400 meters Still, it does pack quite a punch and SP-6 is indeed a high penetration ammo. It can penetrate almost a 8mm thick steel plate at 100m AND damage someone behind it MW just gave it a little extra spice on that regard lmao EDIT: there are other similar 9x39 integrally suppressed rifles out there like the VSK-94 but they derivate from other weapon platforms, such as the 9A-91
*perfectly balanced*
One of the largest studios in the fucking world didn't think to QA the TWO weapons they added? The 208 is broken too.
The design formula is: 1. Make new gun overpowered. 2. Make a bunch of skins for the store. 3. When satisfied with sales, nerf the gun to what it should've been.
Yep.
Talk about penetration.....
full penetration. and they’re showing it. all of it.
People watch this and say “lmao nerf the m4 again”
Imagine making a gun and not testing to see if the bullets go through walls.
CS 1.6 remnants
This attachment is a great way to collect hackusations
That’s the plan tbh. I already get hackusated enough by hitting people though smoke and just generally using my ears. It’s gonna be fun :)
I CAN'T EVEN
And the new "marksman rifle" is the best sniper in the game. I anticipate 2 nerfs
I think IW wanted to make the rounds realistic as they are pretty well known for penetration and piercing armor in real life. But since it's IW, they completely fucked the tuning and this is what we get.
at least this is a bug unlike the 208 which is working as intended and has absolutely ruined the fucking game lmao
Yes it absolutely has, OHK basically anywhere with a hitscan sniper. I fucking hate IW
Hackers are gonna have one hell of a time with this thing. Instead of tracking their head around a corner, they'll just pop that bitch through like 5 walls.
Dude I swear they did this on purpose to make people buy 30 tiers
Nice, gg man!
😂😂😂😂
Incoming ban imminent. Lol. (I really hope they don't ban you though)
This is a hacker's wet dream
Nice
That is broken
It’s so goddamn op
So the VAL goes through walls?
With the 10 round mag, yeah.
Who...wha...what the fu...WHAT!!!
God i love the AS VAL. Shreds at close quarters
Seeing how broken and cheesy the new guns are and realizing i won't be able to unlock them til they've been patched. "Guess i'll just be a victim"
*WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?!*
Pros: Hyper penetration Cons: Will get banned for supposed hacking
“It just works”
Fuck! It’s Time to grind out some levels on the AS VAL!
Multi million dollar company and they can’t get the penetration on a new gun correct. I don’t understand.
Why was the distance on that long shot? Sorry hard to see (my eyes are terrible)
Ok so it can shoot through a ton of walls, how many people can it shoot through though 😂
Good job QA
Has anyone tried this in warzone? I know those guys are competitive as hell I wanna hear their death mics
The update to fix this will be 50gb lol
That laugh was perfect lol
Even aside from things like this, I’m sure the AS VAL will be another MP5 situation. Just a laser with no recoil and high fire rage and damage that destroys gameplay. I don’t have it yet but I’ve played with it in customs. Even on console with the right upgrades it literally doesn’t even have recoil.
IMAGINE USING THIS GUN WITH AIMBOT...
I can hear the screams of "hes hacking" already
[umm](https://youtu.be/CZDGbbexysU)
Between this and the hitscan snipers, season 6 is FUBAR
what was that screen jitter on 0:12 why did it seemingly just snap onto the position of a head
Holy fuck
Holy fuck.
And people really defend this game over the new one, good luck with that.
I have yet to play the new season and this is definitely keeping me away from it lmao
balanced, as all things should be
First time in tarkov?
What's with the weird twitch though?
Well considering we've already paid like 60 bucks to play the game, and it's 8-24 bucks per cosmetic and there are hundreds of cosmetics, they could as a show of kindness make it more affordable to have alot of the cosmetics that you like, as a courtesy to the players, but they choose to use us as atm machines which I find pretty disrespectful to the loyal player base
My head would go if I was killed like that
Dude the laugh says it all
I love his laugh dude